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After rooting your phone...

What were the first 3 things you did to your phone? Did you install applications that require root and if so what were they? Did you get ClockworkMod Recovery installed and backed up your phone? Just curious to see what everyone did right after rooting your phones.
For me I did the following:
1) Installed ClockworkMod Recovery & backed up my phone
2) Installed Titanium Backup Pro (why does it only show 5 things and not all apps?)
3) Installed ShootMe

For titanium you have to update busybox, you click fix or something I forget but after the update you will see everything
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Moved to general forum for further discussion. Development is for development threads only. Thank you

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Moved to general forum for further discussion. Development is for development threads only. Thank you
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Thanks. I wasn't sure which one I should have placed it in.

motorjonny said:
For titanium you have to update busybox, you click fix or something I forget but after the update you will see everything
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Click on problems button and install busybox
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mftek said:
Click on problems button and install busybox
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THAT fixed it for me! Thank you very much, now it shows 208 applications in there. Much appreciated for the assistance!
Now, what all did you guys/gals do after rooting your phone?

motorjonny said:
For titanium you have to update busybox, you click fix or something I forget but after the update you will see everything
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Yep. Go into Titanium, hit the "Problem?" option on the bottom and you will get a pop-up box saying Auto-upgrade for BusyBox, then hit Yes, do it and it will update and show all your apps afterward
*edit* lmao wow sorry. I had this page open to comment right after you posted this but the phone rang so I had to answer and after I got done typing I now see it's already been addressed lol. Sorry about that. Glad it worked for you.

1. Installed ROM manager.
2. Back everything up
3. Installed root explorer to delete bloatware
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the only thing i have done is used it to disable the apps that came on it .. not show in the app list and keeps it from running but gets the updates still if they get one .. figured it was better than removing them since there really wasnt a recovery or restore or other rom to flash again if something goes wrong from an uninstalled app or something .. it has enough memory anyhow.
Setting up adb was a pain in the ass due to the given drivers dont install ... there is some code that you have to copy/paste into the inf file(that wasnt in the guide) for the mytouch 4g.
other than that .. havent done anything .. im waiting till the something solid comes out ... not a big fan of rom manager .. havent tried titanium .. i really did like armon ra recovery .. hope he makes one for this thing.

This is what I did.
ryan562 said:
1. Installed ROM manager.
2. Back everything up
3. Installed root explorer to delete bloatware
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Strapt said:
the only thing i have done is used it to disable the apps that came on it .. not show in the app list and keeps it from running but gets the updates still if they get one .. figured it was better than removing them since there really wasnt a recovery or restore or other rom to flash again if something goes wrong from an uninstalled app or something .. it has enough memory anyhow.
Setting up adb was a pain in the ass due to the given drivers dont install ... there is some code that you have to copy/paste into the inf file(that wasnt in the guide) for the mytouch 4g.
other than that .. havent done anything .. im waiting till the something solid comes out ... not a big fan of rom manager .. havent tried titanium .. i really did like armon ra recovery .. hope he makes one for this thing.
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Hmmm I'm not all to familiar with ADB yet but I have had to use it to turn S back on after getting it OFF with the rooting process and the driver installed that was on the sd card without problem (I'm assuming seeing as I needed the driver in order to complete the process... again I'm new to it all).
Quick question how can I check it again to make sure I have adb set up right?
*edit* just to make sure I have it right, and correct me if I am wrong, I connected my phone to the computer started a command prompt, typed in "adb devices" and it showed "List of devices attached, HT0********* device" - so is it fair to say I have adb installed correctly?
I also went to my device manager and seen *Android USB Devices and then under it MY HTC - so I'm guessing that is the name the HTC driver took when I installed it.
Again, I am sharing this as a peace of mine to myself and maybe someone else that is new to the process like myself (but learning thanks to every one of you all here) that is just wanting to make sure its done right.

likeitnot said:
Hmmm I'm not all to familiar with ADB yet but I have had to use it to turn S back on after getting it OFF with the rooting process and the driver installed that was on the sd card without problem (I'm assuming seeing as I needed the driver in order to complete the process... again I'm new to it all).
Quick question how can I check it again to make sure I have adb set up right?
*edit* just to make sure I have it right, and correct me if I am wrong, I connected my phone to the computer started a command prompt, typed in "adb devices" and it showed "List of devices attached, HT0********* device" - so is it fair to say I have adb installed correctly?
I also went to my device manager and seen *Android USB Devices and then under it MY HTC - so I'm guessing that is the name the HTC driver took when I installed it.
Again, I am sharing this as a peace of mine to myself and maybe someone else that is new to the process like myself (but learning thanks to every one of you all here) that is just wanting to make sure its done right.
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hmmm you cant open the command prompt and hit adb devices and there it is from what i know .. you have to cd into it first .. which would be the default of cd C:\android-sdk-windows\tools (if you put the SDK folder into the root of your C: on your comp) .. then you can type adb devices and you should see yours there and then adb shell and I usually do a "su" as well ..
if ya really want to test it out type in reboot and the phone will restart ... but if you see the list of devices that should be confirmation enough really

Strapt said:
hmmm you cant open the command prompt and hit adb devices and there it is from what i know .. you have to cd into it first .. which would be the default of cd C:\android-sdk-windows\tools (if you put the SDK folder into the root of your C: on your comp) .. then you can type adb devices and you should see yours there and then adb shell and I usually do a "su" as well ..
if ya really want to test it out type in reboot and the phone will restart ... but if you see the list of devices that should be confirmation enough really
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Yep you're absolutely right... I kind of left out a few things (that you mentioned, thank you). And I did the type reboot test and the phone rebooted. I was just doing it for added assurance I was doing it right.
Thanks!!!!

likeitnot said:
Yep you're absolutely right... I kind of left out a few things (that you mentioned, thank you). And I did the type reboot test and the phone rebooted. I was just doing it for added assurance I was doing it right.
Thanks!!!!
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glad it worked for ya ..
another thing to try if you have not done so yet is to try something like this in the terminal or thru adb.
pm disable com.tmobile.apppack <hit enter>
you should get a message saying something like new status disabled .. and not just killed
then go into menu/settings/applications/manage applications/all/ and find the one that says "com.android.providers.applications" hit that and then force close .. this will restart the launcher to show the change and that damn app pack that comes preloaded that you cant uninstall will be gone from the applications.
However .. this DOES NOT uninstall them it just keeps the icon from showing up in your apps and prevents it from running but will still get the automatic updates if there is one for it .. how damn cool is that
if you are in adb hit pm list package and it will show you all of the com.names of all the apps on the phone and you can type whatever you want using the pm disable thing like about to remove it from the app list but without unstalling them.
if you want to enable them then its just pm enable whatever app name here.

Clockwork mod installed then I tried to over clock but I figured out that the current kernal is not supported! Or something like that. Then i came here to see if any roms were available yet! Unfortunately there's none for now! Hopefully we will see CyanogenMod on our MyTouch 4g! By the way its my first post
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titanium back up,bloatware,rom manager recovery

First and foremost, remap that god awful genius button, then used titanium backup to freeze all the garbage t-mobile bloatware and backup all apps and system data, then installed clockwork, flashed the recovery and made a rom backup. And of course added the good ole usb and WiFi router apps to my lineup, since its about to start costing more.
Tried to get the standard froyo lockscreen to work in place of the HTC one, but that failed (kinda) and I had to restore the rom ha..
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civicvx94 said:
First and foremost, remap that god awful genius button, then used titanium backup to freeze all the garbage t-mobile bloatware and backup all apps and system data, then installed clockwork, flashed the recovery and made a rom backup. And of course added the good ole usb and WiFi router apps to my lineup, since its about to start costing more.
Tried to get the standard froyo lockscreen to work in place of the HTC one, but that failed (kinda) and I had to restore the rom ha..
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Did you remap the genius button to google search?
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mftek said:
Did you remap the genius button to google search?
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Yessir..short is text search and long is visual task switcher/vlingo/Google voice search. Works perfect.
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civicvx94 said:
First and foremost, remap that god awful genius button, then used titanium backup to freeze all the garbage t-mobile bloatware and backup all apps and system data, then installed clockwork, flashed the recovery and made a rom backup. And of course added the good ole usb and WiFi router apps to my lineup, since its about to start costing more.
Tried to get the standard froyo lockscreen to work in place of the HTC one, but that failed (kinda) and I had to restore the rom ha..
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How and what bloatware did you remove? I know that there is a crap on this phone that I will never use. ie guitar hero and those other craps. I just want to know the steps to do the same thing. Thanks

Evo Shift/HTC Speedy

Any idea when a sub forum will be created for this device?
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I was just searching for this as well.

I am interested in knowing this information as well. I am interested in buying the phone but I want to see if any developers plan on supporting it.

Ditto
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In the meantime, I tried running `rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin` that seems to be common between a few phones- Droid2, Optimus S, probably others.
It runs but does not give root- the shell disconnects as normal but the phone will no longer show up as a device from 'adb device' or 'adb shell' until you reboot it.
Edit: z4root does work to root it. Install Superuser, run z4root, it will say it rooted while it didn't really work. Run it again and Superuser will ask for root perms. Permanent root function in z4root does not work.

I sure am hoping they create one. I tweeted them also about adding a Shift 4G sub forum but no one replied as of yet.

Yes please. I'm excited to see what kind of a developer community this phone gets.

Ditto, also. As the proud new owner of a Shift I turn to XDA to help me void my warranty
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also interested in this ^_^

I agree.
Please create a Evo Shift 4G forum.
Thanks.

One of you pull system for me with adb.
Code:
adb pull /system /system
Zip the folder at C:/path-to-sdk/tools/ named system, and upload it and post it in this thread and I'll start working on some custom roms. Picking up this phone when I get the money from donations.

I will do it right now if no one has it up before I get done

http://www.digglesworth.net/evoshift/system.7z
There is the system dump from my phone. I hope this helps out.

Z4root wouldn't work for me. It just acts like its loading.
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Z4root worked before but now it starts and then the phone restarts and runs really slowly until I do a battery pull.
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I had that happen the last time I ran it (two nights ago?). I think this was after I told z4root to attempt to permanently root it. I haven't run it since and all has been fine.

Advocating this device....
Every time I try to .sh the ratc file I get permission denied. Have already chmod 0755 both root and ratc. Can we also throw a sh file in data/temp, chmod, then run it from there? Maybe?
Ill try it and try pushing busybox to temp when I get home
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bubby323 said:
..... Picking up this phone...:
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very good news to read

I've created three new threads in the XDA general section in an attempt to streamline all Evo Shift discussions.
Root and Development
Issues
General Discussion

my S wont turn off

so im a previous iphone user and need something new to play with......i follow the instructions to root with visionary but my S is always on and wont be S-off.......what do i do?

Visionary can not perform S-OFF. People tried to come up with 1-click app to do that but it's not possible, at least right now.
Follow this guide to make it happen. It's not as hard as it looks.

borodin1 said:
Visionary can not perform S-OFF. People tried to come up with 1-click app to do that but it's not possible, at least right now.
Follow this guide to make it happen. It's not as hard as it looks.
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ok yea i did this and from some reason the sdk is not picking up my mt4g......ive been actually trying since i posted this thread lol. things are just not cooperating with me

For me yo get s off o have go put a stock rom on my phone maybe that will help
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cdw9800 said:
For me yo get s off o have go put a stock rom on my phone maybe that will help
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I have a stock rom on though
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Flipnfr3ak said:
so im a previous iphone user and need something new to play with......i follow the instructions to root with visionary but my S is always on and wont be S-off.......what do i do?
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same as you(*), until last week when i came across this dude, who made it seem so easy. follw these links, and you will gain s-off with sim unlock through gfree 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyELJRy4rhE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXsORU5_rxI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvfHC1dQ0D4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIVMIwMgrWM
pay attention to it though, you don't wanna have a bricked new phone now!
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*by " same as you" i mean i was heaving a hard time gaining s-off, until these videos

Hi guys, my girlfriend just got a MT4G today and I'm having problems getting s-off too.
I've tried all methods and nothing seems to be working. Any suggestions? If you need more info just ask, but like i said, i've tried like three different ways and none work. I'll edit this post soon and add what common errors im getting

I couldnt get it done with Visionary r14, instead of getting the option screen when I opened it, it went straight to the rooting phone screen and just didnt work
I found r11 and used it instead and that solved my problem, the rest of the process went easy

PhantomRampage said:
Hi guys, my girlfriend just got a MT4G today and I'm having problems getting s-off too.
I've tried all methods and nothing seems to be working. Any suggestions? If you need more info just ask, but like i said, i've tried like three different ways and none work. I'll edit this post soon and add what common errors im getting
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I had the same problem. I used one way to turn S-off when I had the myTouch 4g with the radio 0.85.xxxx. When I had my phone swapped since I made up an excuse to get the good screen, the radio was 0.86.xxxx. I tried to follow the same steps as I did with 0.85.xxxx, but wouldn't work. So I ended up trying the ULTIMATE GUIDE TO ROOT and it worked. I put everything unlocked even SIM. THen I used VISIONary r14 to have it root then perm root.
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I couldnt get it done with Visionary r14, instead of getting the option screen when I opened it, it went straight to the rooting phone screen and just didnt work
I found r11 and used it instead and that solved my problem, the rest of the process went easy
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I tried r11 but it didn't work so I went to r14 with the ULTIMATE GUIDE TO ROOT and it works. So I guess each is their own.

Ok so I'm still having trouble with this. Can anyone tell me what I need to download for the sdk kit? I have a acer aspire one laptop either a d150 or a150.i don't know what the difference is. Running windows xp sp2 or 3 lol
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Flipnfr3ak said:
Ok so I'm still having trouble with this. Can anyone tell me what I need to download for the sdk kit? I have a acer aspire one laptop either a d150 or a150.i don't know what the difference is. Running windows xp sp2 or 3 lol
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Dont even bother setting up the SDK. It is a pain in the arse!!! Use this method if you need to set up ADB.

Thank you I was looking for something like this
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Seriously people, don't you read threads? The rooting method is very easy and does not require ADB or the SDK. I've rooted *5 PHONES* on the first try by reading and just following the damn directions.
You temproot, run a couple of commands in terminal, reboot, temproot, permroot, and go on your merry way.
If this doesn't work follow the guide for gfree and that will do it.
Here, I made a SUPER-STEP-BY-STEP guide. If this is still too complicated for you then you really shouldn't be rooting at all, as it requires some basic knowledge of how to use a computer and the phone. And I mean BASIC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
This one is pretty damn easy, takes all of 10 minutes. Use the Terminal Emulator method.
Read the first post all the way through before you start to make sure you understand the entire process. In a nutshell, here's what happens:
*Download root.rar and extract to be a folder called ROOT on your sdcard. The ROOT folder should not be inside any other folders, so it will be sdcard/root.
*Download a file manager from the Market. Linda File Manager is my favorite.
*Download Terminal Emulator from the Market.
*Download the Visionary.apk file from the link in thread.
*from home screen - MENU, SETTINGS, APPLICATIONS, ALLOW INSTALL OF NON-MARKET APPS. Make sure the box is checked. ALSO UNCHECK FAST BOOT.
*Open linda file manager, navigate to visionary and click on it to install.
*Reboot. This will take a minute.
*Open visionary, check the box for SET SYSTEM R/W AFTER ROOT.
*Hit button for TEMP ROOT. Give it a minute.
*Open Terminal Emulator and type THE ITALIC COMMANDS, pressing ENTER after each.
su
*You should get a prompt for SUPERUSER PERMISSIONS. Click ALLOW. Back in Terminal, continue with these commands, typing them EXACTLY as they appear and pressing ENTER after each line.
cd sdcard/root
sh root.sh
*Now just wait a few minutes.
*When it's done, shut down the phone.
*Hold volume down + power until you get to a white screen. If it says S-OFF near the top then you're almost done. If not, repeat the previous steps until you do see S-OFF.
*Reboot.
*Open visionary, make sure SET SYSTEM R/W AFTER ROOT is checked.
*Click TEMP ROOT.
*When done, click ATTEMPT PERM ROOT. This might take a few minutes. Your phone will reboot itself when done. (I think)
When you boot back up you should be permanently rooted and you are ready to install a custom ROM if you like.
*To verify that you are rooted, open Terminal Emulator and type su. If you get the # sign and a notice that superuser permissions were granted, then you have succeeded in rooting your phone. Congrats!
Installing a custom ROM is another procedure so do a search for the guides on those procedures.
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Phateless said:
Seriously people, don't you read threads? The rooting method is very easy and does not require ADB or the SDK. I've rooted *5 PHONES* on the first try by reading and just following the damn directions.
You temproot, run a couple of commands in terminal, reboot, temproot, permroot, and go on your merry way.
If this doesn't work follow the guide for gfree and that will do it.
Here, I made a SUPER-STEP-BY-STEP guide. If this is still too complicated for you then you really shouldn't be rooting at all, as it requires some basic knowledge of how to use a computer and the phone. And I mean BASIC.
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see ive done this many many times and my s just wont turn off.....its always on

Flipnfr3ak said:
see ive done this many many times and my s just wont turn off.....its always on
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Are you making sure that "set system to r/w" and "run visionary.sh" are both checked at the time of temproot.
and are you getting any type of error codes when you type in the command lines.

Flipnfr3ak said:
see ive done this many many times and my s just wont turn off.....its always on
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Assuming you're doing it correctly, some phones have trouble. Look for the guide titled ULTIMATE S-OFF, CHECK OUT EVEN IF ALREADY ROOTED.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
The gfree method should do the trick.

I got it working after 4 hours -__- I'm not sure if it had anything to do with it, but once i removed the sim card it seemed to work. Got s-off and permroot and even flashed cm7 nightlies afterwards with no problems, then put the sim back i n

Phateless said:
Assuming you're doing it correctly, some phones have trouble. Look for the guide titled ULTIMATE S-OFF, CHECK OUT EVEN IF ALREADY ROOTED.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
The gfree method should do the trick.
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See I didnt do the visionary.sh check off part haha I don't remember see that part in the guide
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I give up already I just can't get it to work nothing is working
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Flipnfr3ak said:
I give up already I just can't get it to work nothing is working
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SLOW DOWN, read the directions CAREFULLY, and make sure you understand the entire process before starting. I probably read the guides 20 times from start to finish before I rooted.
Here's a super-newbie step-by-step guide I typed up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
This one is pretty damn easy, takes all of 10 minutes. Use the Terminal Emulator method.
Read the first post all the way through before you start to make sure you understand the entire process. In a nutshell, here's what happens:
*Download root.rar and extract to be a folder called ROOT on your sdcard. The ROOT folder should not be inside any other folders, so it will be sdcard/root.
*Download a file manager from the Market. Linda File Manager is my favorite.
*Download Terminal Emulator from the Market.
*Download the Visionary.apk file from the link in thread.
*from home screen - MENU, SETTINGS, APPLICATIONS, ALLOW INSTALL OF NON-MARKET APPS. Make sure the box is checked. ALSO UNCHECK FAST BOOT.
*Open linda file manager, navigate to visionary and click on it to install.
*Reboot. This will take a minute.
*Open visionary, check the box for SET SYSTEM R/W AFTER ROOT.
*Hit button for TEMP ROOT. Give it a minute.
*Open Terminal Emulator and type THE ITALIC COMMANDS, pressing ENTER after each.
su
*You should get a prompt for SUPERUSER PERMISSIONS. Click ALLOW. Back in Terminal, continue with these commands, typing them EXACTLY as they appear and pressing ENTER after each line.
cd sdcard/root
sh root.sh
*Now just wait a few minutes.
*When it's done, shut down the phone.
*Hold volume down + power until you get to a white screen. If it says S-OFF near the top then you're almost done. If not, repeat the previous steps until you do see S-OFF.
*Reboot.
*Open visionary, make sure SET SYSTEM R/W AFTER ROOT is checked.
*Click TEMP ROOT.
*When done, click ATTEMPT PERM ROOT. This might take a few minutes. Your phone will reboot itself when done. (I think)
When you boot back up you should be permanently rooted and you are ready to install a custom ROM if you like.
*To verify that you are rooted, open Terminal Emulator and type su. If you get the # sign and a notice that superuser permissions were granted, then you have succeeded in rooting your phone. Congrats!
Installing a custom ROM is another procedure so do a search for the guides on those procedures.
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perm root my 4g

I'm trying to perm root my mytouch 4g using Visionary
I have android 2.2.1 and have successfully temp rooted using Visionary
I download the root folder from HERE
I put them in the root of the SD card and open up Terminal Emulator and type in
su
cd /sdcard/root
sh root.sh
when I type the first line (su) I get the # and am told that Terminal Emulator has been granted superuser permissions.
when I type in the second line (cd /sdcard/root) I get this message
cd: can't cd to /sdcard/root
What could be causing this?
Thanks
Jonathan

The "cd" command is a "change directory" command, and there is no directory called "root" on your SD card, because either you haven't unzipped what you downloaded, or you unzipped it in the wrong place.
Unzipping what you downloaded creates a directory (or a "folder", if you're a Windows user) called "root" that has several files in it -- a kernel module and a script, if I remember correctly. The script loads the kernel module and makes a call to it in order to set S Off.

thank you much, I think I figured out the problem. I'll try again later and see what happens. I'll post back with the results later. Thanks again!
Jonathan
NOTE: Ok, I can now run through the
su
cd /sdcard/root
sh root.sh
commands but when it's done and I check for s-off I don't have it (I still have s-on)
I've tried this twice to no avail. any advise?

i am having the same problem. i've tried this method about 15 times, mostly with visionary r14, but also a couple times with r11. i have also tried the gfree method a couple times as well via the semi-automated method. no s=off!
i have a new MT4G direct from phone upgrade order. i've read of others who have rooted the MT4G before multiple times, but can't do it now with a new phone. i'm wondering if it's something HTC has changed with the newest releases.....

kenrippy said:
i am having the same problem. i've tried this method about 15 times, mostly with visionary r14, but also a couple times with r11. i have also tried the gfree method a couple times as well via the semi-automated method. no s=off!
i have a new MT4G direct from phone upgrade order. i've read of others who have rooted the MT4G before multiple times, but can't do it now with a new phone. i'm wondering if it's something HTC has changed with the newest releases.....
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HTC was going to install a measure that would prevent "rage methods" from working on their phones. How ever, none of the tech blogs are reporting that this has been rolled out. So i doubt that is the case.
make sure the its set up as sdcard/root. If you've just extracted the folder and copied the extraction to the sdcard it's not set properly.

neidlinger said:
HTC was going to install a measure that would prevent "rage methods" from working on their phones. How ever, none of the tech blogs are reporting that this has been rolled out. So i doubt that is the case.
make sure the its set up as sdcard/root. If you've just extracted the folder and copied the extraction to the sdcard it's not set properly.
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yes, i understand the root folder in the root of the sdcard, and not 2 root folders. (sdcard/root/root)
like i mentioned, i read posts from a couple people on here with the same problems with new mt4g's after having done it multiple times before with success.

kenrippy said:
yes, i understand the root folder in the root of the sdcard, and not 2 root folders. (sdcard/root/root)
like i mentioned, i read posts from a couple people on here with the same problems with new mt4g's after having done it multiple times before with success.
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then set up the ADB (see my sig) and do it the long way.

neidlinger said:
then set up the ADB (see my sig) and do it the long way.
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after doing that, would i start on #4 in this guide?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996

kenrippy said:
after doing that, would i start on #4 in this guide?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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nope you would start @ number 1.
you need to download those files and check the MD5SUM of every download load. the files need to be PERFECT for it to work correctly.
and i cannot stress enough. take your time and read directions. Read through the list a few times and make sure you have a good understanding of what you are doing. Doing that wrong can make your phone an expensive paper weight.
instead of pushing stuff to the "SDK tools folder" you store it to the ADB folder TrueBlue had you create in his walkthrough. And make sure to change your target folder to "c:\adb".
and remember you are choosing to do this. so if you screw it up. it's on your shoulders not mine.

neidlinger said:
nope you would start @ number 1.
you need to download those files and check the MD5SUM of every download load. the files need to be PERFECT for it to work correctly.
and i cannot stress enough. take your time and read directions. Read through the list a few times and make sure you have a good understanding of what you are doing. Doing that wrong can make your phone an expensive paper weight.
instead of pushing stuff to the "SDK tools folder" you store it to the ADB folder TrueBlue had you create in his walkthrough. And make sure to change your target folder to "c:\adb".
and remember you are choosing to do this. so if you screw it up. it's on your shoulders not mine.
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thanks for all the help/info. i'll hold off for a while to see what else unfolds in the coming weeks in regards to alternate root methods. i don't want to brick this thing, just to get it rooted.

kenrippy said:
thanks for all the help/info. i'll hold off for a while to see what else unfolds in the coming weeks in regards to alternate root methods. i don't want to brick this thing, just to get it rooted.
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The way this phone is made it's going to be pretty difficult to write a "one click s=off" program.
If you are wanting the benefits of being rooted you can always use VISIONary.apk when you need the root features like AD-HOC tethering or Screen Shots.

neidlinger said:
The way this phone is made it's going to be pretty difficult to write a "one click s=off" program.
If you are wanting the benefits of being rooted you can always use VISIONary.apk when you need the root features like AD-HOC tethering or Screen Shots.
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what i'd really like to do is remove some bloatware and demo games. (not just hide them) any way to do that aside from perm root?

kenrippy said:
what i'd really like to do is remove some bloatware and demo games. (not just hide them) any way to do that aside from perm root?
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not really. As soon as you reboot they'll pop right back up.

ok thanks.

Two things.
1. I've decided to put off perm rooting until I can understand adb and use it properly. No need to rush, I've got time.
2. Is it true that given time, effort, and ingenuity there really isn't such a thing as a bricked phone? It can always be recovered, it's just a question of how far you have to go to do it?
I've read around a lot and though I've heard many people talk of bricking their phone, it seems like many say that if you can use things like adb commands you can pretty well fix any issue, it's just difficult.
Like I was saying in point 1, I'm newer to all this and I'm learning so thanks for answering!
Jonathan

lanternslight456 said:
2. Is it true that given time, effort, and ingenuity there really isn't such a thing as a bricked phone? It can always be recovered, it's just a question of how far you have to go to do it?
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At minimum, I believe the phone requires a functioning bootloader in order to be able to connect via USB to fastboot.

Any update on this? I also just got a mytouch 4g yesterday and am trying to root it. Is it possible right now?

Root the mt4g
Friend, I used the adb method here on xda, after I got the forked childs msg, and restart terminal w/e, make sue to pull out battery. Restart, the LAST THING I DID WAS USE VISIONARY r14, to attempt permroot, took me a week before I figured out to try this, the guide said phone would be rooted after terminal commands went through. So, to recap if u entered everything correctly, (my avg protection was telling me my phone was rooted for a week after I pushed gfree using the adb method but had no s-off, tried visionary permroot, BINGO!) THANKS TO ALL THE HARD WORK/GUIDES ON XDA, using ICE GLACIER ROM, titanium backup, rom manager, root explorer, my internet security (ad free web) set cpu, cache cleaner ng, drocap, couldn't get barnacle to work, the tethering on board works fine. Quadrant standard for benchmarking.

My wifes mt4g arrived today, and I had it perm rooted, with s-off in about 20 minutes, following this guide from the wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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danger-rat said:
My wifes mt4g arrived today, and I had it perm rooted, with s-off in about 20 minutes, following this guide from the wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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dude this method is great especially if your a noob or cant use adb for whatever reason just use visionary for temp root and then using root explorer move the gfree file to data>local then open terminal emulator and follow the instructions that gives you s-off and allows you to use visionary to permaroot when you reboot and then rommanager it now supports 3.xx so you can flash gingerroms just be careful and have fun

[How to] Disable CarrierIQ on the Atrix 2

I am posting this in the Developer forum, because it is still a little more than a In-experienced user can handle at the moment, and the potential to get into a bootloop is a little higher if you are not familiar with what you are doing here.
If you are at all new / uncomfortable with Android, UNIX/LINUX, this phone, or adb, then: PLEASE DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME.
If you get into a bootloop I am not responsible for this, nor is this the place to complain if that happens. You can ask for support here though if this process has caused that.
If you do get into a bootloop, then try and help me out, with providing as much info as possible with what happened (any output or screen prints are VERY helpful). I am also posting the original /system/etc/init.goldfish.sh file here AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS POST. That way if it does all go wrong it is here to grab. So don't go asking for it someplace else, or even asking here for it.
You have been warned!
Now with that out of the way, on to the good stuff.
1) Go grab some kind of bloat freeze program, from the market. I have used bloat freezer from the market with great success.
Just download and install it, don't run it just yet, if you already have, and frozen the "Device Health Application", then unfreeze it, and reboot, before doing the next step.
It is VERY important that it is done in EXACTLY this order. The reason is, if the Device Health program is frozen when you let the init script run, it will not work exactly as it should and these services will restart, since part of it is frozen when it first runs, and it all has to be disabled in the proper way, so that it can not be restarted remotely, or we will HAVE to use cron to run checks. Cron is an elaborate hack, I don't want to have to do, unless we HAVE to. If you do it in the exact order noted here, cron will not be needed and this will not restart.
2) Go get the init.goldfish.sh file from http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45576654/init.goldfish.sh.tar
push this tarball to your phone:
Code:
adb push init.goldfish.sh.tar /data/local/
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Now is the command line part of this hack.
Code:
adb shell
su
mount -o remount, rw /system
cd /data/local
tar -xvf init.goldfish.sh.tar
cp /system/etc/init.goldfish.sh /sdcard/init.goldfish.sh
cp ./init.goldfish.sh /system/etc/init.goldfish.sh
chown root /system/etc/init.goldfish.sh
chmod 550 /system/etc/init.goldfish.sh
mount -o remount, ro /system
reboot
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Now when your phone comes back up:
3) Open your bloat freezer program and freeze the "Device Health Application"
Your phone will freak out, and tell you that Device Health has stopped and it will keep asking you to FC, all you can do is pull the battery.
Put the battery back in the phone an boot it up.
Now CarrierIQ should be 100% disabled on your Atrix 2.
As promissed, here is the Original /system/etc/init.goldfish.sh file in a tarball, just use the same code above to put this back in place.
DON'T USE ROOT EXPLORER TO COPY THESE FILES INTO PLACE!!!
Original /system/etc/init.goldfish.sh file:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45576654/init.goldfish.sh-orig.tar

The Jedi Master strikes again!

The force is strong in this one. Seriously Jim you absolutely amaze me. You are the Linux guru.
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Train us, he will.
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LOL....
Hopefully I have not scared everyone from trying this.... I just want to let all the newbies who just got this as thier first android phone yesterday, and rooted it today, and now think that this is a good hack to try, that this is not the best thing for them just yet. It can and will bootloop the phone if you get too excited and don't follow the directions exactly... I got mine in a bootloop testing this all out, and finding the exact steps, but it was not hard to get out of, because it gets into android enough to let you adb in, if you screw up...

quick question: Why would rooting followed by freezing not work for that application? I think I did that when I got the phone. I don't see anything called Device Health in my running or installed applications.
Is carrierIQ still running on my phone? Have you got a string I can look for in the 'ps' output in the Terminal to confirm? There are 100000 processes running on these phones these days, most with cryptic names.... I miss the G1 days....

devsk said:
quick question: Why would rooting followed by freezing not work for that application? I think I did that when I got the phone. I don't see anything called Device Health in my running or installed applications.
Is carrierIQ still running on my phone? Have you got a string I can look for in the 'ps' output in the Terminal to confirm? There are 100000 processes running on these phones these days, most with cryptic names.... I miss the G1 days....
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No just freezing the device health app just stops the collection process.
The part where you run the commands to stop the services in android are where the data can and will be sent to CIQ or AT&T, there are other things collected that att does not care much about (ATT only wants what is collected with the dev health app), and that goes straight to CIQ, so the services at the OS level are VERY important to stop. There is really not a way to see them running, but I have found that these can and will restart if my instructions are not followed 100%. To find out if CIQ is doing anything take a look on youtube there is a video that explains how to look at the system logs and see what is being collected if anything, and what is being sent out. After a lot of trial and error, I found this is the ONLY way to stop it 100%.

Hey Jim. sorry I've been out of the forums for so long on this. I was going to dig around my atrix2 and see what I could find wrt carrieriq. I got stuck on missing shell tools and you gave me some advice wrt paths and such. I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction for fixing up my env when I shell in? I also don't seem to have grep anywhere... odd.
YOu mentioned doing some of the destructive work in an emulator, and I would like to try the same thing, but I've no idea how to get the atrix2 ROM into an emulator. How did you accomplish this?
I followed the instructions above precisely and verified that my init.goldfish.sh is indeed modified correctly with the carrieriq stuff, and have suffered no ill effects. I have not, however, attempted to determine if carrieriq processes have stopped running. I did notice that after having frozen and unfrozen device.health.monitor a few times, it doesn't ever register as a running app... wonder what's up with that.
thanks for the help.

I was wondering....could this be made into a handy dandy flashable zip?
Then after flashing just freeze the app?
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tylercarter said:
I was wondering....could this be made into a handy dandy flashable zip?
Then after flashing just freeze the app?
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Yep, working on it, should have it up for download tomorrow.... It will also be in my rom.
Jim
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jimbridgman said:
Yep, working on it, should have it up for download tomorrow.... It will also be in my rom.
Jim
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NICE! you really are a jedi master!

Who wants to be the first to try this out? I have created a flashable zip to disable CIQ on every boot, all you have to do is grab the file below:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45576654/NoCIQ.zip
Then with CWM, flash it, don't wipe anything, except maybe dalvic cache, but nothing else. This will only flash one file to your phone.
You will still have to freeze the device health app as in the OP.
This is just a test right now, once someone other than me tests this, and reports back, that all is great, then I will update the OP, to this method.

jimbridgman said:
Who wants to be the first to try this out? I have created a flashable zip to disable CIQ on every boot, all you have to do is grab the file below:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45576654/NoCIQ.zip
Then with CWM, flash it, don't wipe anything, except maybe dalvic cache, but nothing else. This will only flash one file to your phone.
You will still have to freeze the device health app as in the OP.
This is just a test right now, once someone other than me tests this, and reports back, that all is great, then I will update the OP, to this method.
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It said switch to edify scripting. Installation aborted. Something about gingerbread cwm 3. Not sure. Never see this before. I checked the zip and it has 2 updater scripts. One just has a ~ at the end. I know nothing of code but just trying to help.
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jimbridgman said:
Who wants to be the first to try this out? I have created a flashable zip to disable CIQ on every boot, all you have to do is grab the file below:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45576654/NoCIQ.zip
Then with CWM, flash it, don't wipe anything, except maybe dalvic cache, but nothing else. This will only flash one file to your phone.
You will still have to freeze the device health app as in the OP.
This is just a test right now, once someone other than me tests this, and reports back, that all is great, then I will update the OP, to this method.
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Tried this. No go. Here is the error in CWM.
Installing Update...
Amend Scripting (update0script) is no longer supported.
Amend Scripting was deprecated by Google in Android 1.5.
It was necessary to remove it when upgrading to the ClockworkMod 3.0 Gingerbread based recover.
Please switch to Edify scripting (updater-script and update-binary) to create working update zip packages.
Installation Aborted.
There ya go. Hope this helps.

holeshot77 said:
Tried this. No go. Here is the error in CWM.
Installing Update...
Amend Scripting (update0script) is no longer supported.
Amend Scripting was deprecated by Google in Android 1.5.
It was necessary to remove it when upgrading to the ClockworkMod 3.0 Gingerbread based recover.
Please switch to Edify scripting (updater-script and update-binary) to create working update zip packages.
Installation Aborted.
There ya go. Hope this helps.
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hes working on it. wont be much longer

Why not use the app by TrevE?
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1.18.12 said:
Why not use the app by TrevE?
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That does not perform the hack, only detects if it is running. The voodoo ciq detection app works much better though.
Jim
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I just rooted my phone, applied the hack and used Titanium Backup to freeze the Device Health App but I didn't see any FC.
Although when I opened Ti Backup, it told me that my su right are wrong. They are 4755 instead of 6755 or something like that and TiBu told me that it will fix it. I fixed it then froze the app and no FC or nothing. Phone is running fine but not sure if it worked.
Is it really necessary for the app to FC in order to show that it worked?
Should I try it all over again?
Thank you.

noobsquared said:
I just rooted my phone, applied the hack and used Titanium Backup to freeze the Device Health App but I didn't see any FC.
Although when I opened Ti Backup, it told me that my su right are wrong. They are 4755 instead of 6755 or something like that and TiBu told me that it will fix it. I fixed it then froze the app and no FC or nothing. Phone is running fine but not sure if it worked.
Is it really necessary for the app to FC in order to show that it worked?
Should I try it all over again?
Thank you.
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Go download and install this, and it will show you if it (CarrierIQ) is active or not.
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.simplecarrieriqdetector&hl=en