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Hi,
I recently bought a HTC Touch HD, and I think that the "shutdown-screen-when-you-answer-a-call" function of phones like Diamonds, Touch Pro and HD is the dumbest way to prevent accidental presses on the touch screen.
Our devices have a light sensor, that could be used to switch off the screen if the phone is near the ear (like the phone using an "i" word ) and keep it on when you answer with loudspeaker for example.
The "problem" with this function is that when you're already in a "no-light" environment, the screen lock function doesn't work.
To resolve this issue, I think we could use the G-Sensor. Indeed, if the place has no light, then, the phone cannot detect the proximity of a ear. But when you put the phone next to the ear, you hold it a the vertical...
To make it short, the app should do :
Do nothing in normal use.
When a call arrives :
- it monitors the ambient light
If there's light :
- when you answer the call, if there's light then no more (you stick the phone next to the ear), it switches off the screen and continue to monitor.
- while in call, if there's light again (you want to see some info on the screen for example), it switches on the screen and continue to monitor.
- and so on until you end the call
If there's no light :
- when you answer the call, but let it at the horizontal (you let it on the desk for example), it does nothing
- if you take the phone on the vertical position (you stick the phone next to the ear), it switches the screen off.
- if the phone, during a call, goes from vertical to horizontal of horizontal to vertical, the screen is switches on/of
- and so on until you end the call
Obviously, you could replace the "switch on/off screen" with "lock/unlock screen".
What do you think about ?
UPDATE :
After playing a bit with the HD, it appears that HTC DOES use the light sensor for turning the screen off during a call.
Let's do a test :
In a place with plenty light :
- put your mobile with the face up
- call a number (always face up) : the screen will not be switched off until the light sensor detects a loss of luminosity or a timeout set in the registry.
So, my conclusion is that HTC already use the light sensor to switch the screen off during a call, but they do it in an absurd way :
- they poll the sensor just to shut down the screen, not to switch it on.
- once the screen has been switched off, they do not longer poll at all.
Do you think it could be a way to "hack" their system to do what we want to do ?
no one has an opinion on this idea ? if there's nobody that want / have the time to develop a soft, I understand, but at least please, give me just your opinion
I agree with your idea for such an application. I must admit that I am very used to just pushing the power button when I answer a call (from Polaris use) to ensure I am not going into other programmes as I rub the phone against my ear. On the other hand I am trying to get used to the Touch HD's modern automatic method but I can't help not feeling relaxed that it has worked and keep trying to look at the screen in the corner of my eye to see if it did go off or not.
If it does not come now I am sure there will be such an app very soon just as you describe especially as all the latest models now have it.
i'd use the half of it that doesn't require the G-sensor as i don't have a diamond or HD...
but i'm certainly sick and tired of my ear operating my touch screen while i'm speaking.
I've written a prototype to do exactly what you are talking about although the one crucial part I am missing is the lock code. Every example or suggestion for locking the screen is very hacky and never feels like a good approach. If anyone has a good solution for locking the screen (especially in managed code) I would be happy to complete what I have started and release it with source so it could be improved upon.
So far, the best locking utility I have seen is PocketShield although I'm not sure what approach was used for locking in that case. It almost feels like a form that captures all windows events but I'm not sure exactly.
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I've written a prototype to do exactly what you are talking about although the one crucial part I am missing is the lock code. Every example or suggestion for locking the screen is very hacky and never feels like a good approach. If anyone has a good solution for locking the screen (especially in managed code) I would be happy to complete what I have started and release it with source so it could be improved upon.
So far, the best locking utility I have seen is PocketShield although I'm not sure what approach was used for locking in that case. It almost feels like a form that captures all windows events but I'm not sure exactly.
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Maybe the simpliest way to "protect" the screen is to switch it off. I suppose it must be some API to do that ?
Concerning the "locking", I think the simpliest way is to put on focus an empty window (transparent if it can be ).
I'm really happy to know that you're working on an app like that
lpaso said:
Hi,
I recently bought a HTC Touch HD, and I think that the "shutdown-screen-when-you-answer-a-call" function of phones like Diamonds, Touch Pro and HD is the dumbest way to prevent accidental presses on the touch screen.
Our devices have a light sensor, that could be used to switch off the screen if the phone is near the ear (like the phone using an "i" word ) and keep it on when you answer with loudspeaker for example.
The "problem" with this function is that when you're already in a "no-light" environment, the screen lock function doesn't work.
To resolve this issue, I think we could use the G-Sensor. Indeed, if the place has no light, then, the phone cannot detect the proximity of a ear. But when you put the phone next to the ear, you hold it a the vertical...
To make it short, the app should do :
Do nothing in normal use.
When a call arrives :
- it monitors the ambient light
If there's light :
- when you answer the call, if there's light then no more (you stick the phone next to the ear), it switches off the screen and continue to monitor.
- while in call, if there's light again (you want to see some info on the screen for example), it switches on the screen and continue to monitor.
- and so on until you end the call
If there's no light :
- when you answer the call, but let it at the horizontal (you let it on the desk for example), it does nothing
- if you take the phone on the vertical position (you stick the phone next to the ear), it switches the screen off.
- if the phone, during a call, goes from vertical to horizontal of horizontal to vertical, the screen is switches on/of
- and so on until you end the call
Indeed, you could replace the "switch on/off screen" with "lock/unlock screen".
What do you think about ?
I searched the forum for an existing app that could do this, but I didn't find anything.
If there's already an app that do this stuff, I'm truely sorry for this post.
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I'm looking for this.. If you find a solution send me a PM, I will do the same
Thanks!
We need this app, how does the iphone acheive this?
I think the 'easiest' way to make this app would be to keep the phone doing what it does currently (put the phone on standby when answering a call) then have the light sensor take the phone out of standby when it receives light, (taking it away from your ear)?
Obviously if its dark then we would have to use the power butten as we currently do now or have the Gsensor do it with a twisting motion (vertical to horizontal).
If anyone has an idea how to program this i'm willing to help in any way, the current systems seems so crude on such tech devices!
DB
lpaso said:
Hi,
I searched the forum for an existing app that could do this, but I didn't find anything.
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There a program, that can help you. Not full, but it can switch off screen, using g-sensor. However its using not vertical aligment of the phone. There are using changing orientation of the phone to decide when phone near the ear.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2622590&postcount=45
I have always wondered why our WM phones don't do what the iphone does...
For the SE Xperia X1, the light sensor is right near the earpiece (along with the little front facing camera), so it would go to virtually 100% darkness when near the ear. I would presume unless you are using the phone also in 100% darkness (which should be pretty rare I would guess) then it would work like the iphone.
I have also been quite annoyed by the fact that after a phonecall, sometimes I found i'm in a note taking program or weather program or something else. It just seems dumb, considering our phone HAVE these lightsensors?!
I think it's a fantastic idea to solve a VERY FRUSTRATING PROBLEM
lpaso said:
no one has an opinion on this idea ? if there's nobody that want / have the time to develop a soft, I understand, but at least please, give me just your opinion
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I would rank myself this way:
Not a newbie who's just gotten a touchscreen phone and is now discovering the quirks when holding screen to ear,
and not a developer,
but a power-user. I have installed all sorts of XDA-developed features/enhancements for my phone.
But now I have 4 years experience -- starting with the T-Mobile MDA, and its successor, the T-Mobile WING. And despite all of the advancements expected in that time, STILL, I inadvertently end a call, or put it on hold accidentally, ALL THE TIME. Between that and trying to retrieve the phone from my pocket just to answer the damn ringing phone, I would say I have, on the average, a 20% success rate -- and 80% of the time the call is disrupted. And at least once a day my ohone, in my pocket, even when using s2u2, manages to REDIAL my latest conversation, so mcuh so that all my friends say "why don;t you get rid of that phone. It does all these whiz bang things but still can't reliably manage a basic phone call.
My most recent experiment was to call someone, then when they answered, press the s2U2 key to lock the phone screen. Only I came to find out from A_C that this is no good: S2u2 does not have recognition that you're ending the call, thus, since it's in lock-mode, the "END CALL" or Hang-Up hard key does not work.
So by all means, I would even pay for an app that once and for all handles the baseline problems of simply making a phone call. Thanks for making this request.
fireweed, have you contacted A_C, author of s2u2 ?
There may just be perfect synergy between the two of you. His "best of breed" screen-lock app is widely used -- and other developers, like supbro, for example, author of iDialer, have collaborated on small code-bits from A_C to solve some integration problems.
If for any reason you are unfamiliar with A_C, go to his website: www.ac-s2.com -- where his apps are explained, and all link back to XDA.
He's even managed to make the screen lock work, yet, have it selectively overridden when you insert headphone jack -- such that his s2p (slide to play) app opens and allows you to switch music tracks etc while otherwise the screen and buttons are all fully locked...
fireweed said:
I've written a prototype to do exactly what you are talking about although the one crucial part I am missing is the lock code. Every example or suggestion for locking the screen is very hacky and never feels like a good approach. If anyone has a good solution for locking the screen (especially in managed code) I would be happy to complete what I have started and release it with source so it could be improved upon.
So far, the best locking utility I have seen is PocketShield although I'm not sure what approach was used for locking in that case. It almost feels like a form that captures all windows events but I'm not sure exactly.
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Hi,
After playing a bit with the HD, it appears that HTC DOES use the light sensor for turning the screen off during a call.
Let's do a test :
In a place with plenty light :
- put your mobile with the face up
- call a number (always face up) : the screen will not be switched off until the light sensor detects a loss of luminosity or the timeout set in the registry expires.
So, my conclusion is that HTC already use the light sensor to switch the screen off during a call, but they do it in an absurd way :
- they poll the sensor just to shut down the screen, not to switch it on.
- once the screen has been switched off, they do not longer poll at all.
Do you think it could be a way to "hack" their system to do what we want to do ?
I think HTC does not only switch off the display but goes to standby (phone works independent if you didn't know yet). Your idea is a lot different in terms of programming.
I don't know if it goes to standby : when the screen is switched off during a call, a press on any button switch it on again. In the registry, the key controlling the timeout before the screen is shut off is named "LightSensorToScreenOff" so I think it is just switching off the screen...
lpaso said:
I don't know if it goes to standby : when the screen is switched off during a call, a press on any button switch it on again. In the registry, the key controlling the timeout before the screen is shut off is named "LightSensorToScreenOff" so I think it is just switching off the screen...
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Well if thats the case, its HALF of what the iphone does... it turns off the screen based on the light sensor going dark suddenly (next to ear) but then fails to turn the screen back on after you move the phone away from your ear...
Anyone know how to enable this?
Interested in having this feature too. Isn't it possible to have the G-Sensor determine when the phone is vertical and shut the screen and then when it is lying flat to turn the screen back on again. Believe that the Iphone does it this way, not with the light sensor.
Hmm... I never had my ear 'navigating' my phone during in-call before....
I never allowed the screen to touch my face anyway, and the speaker is facing the ear canal, when I receive or make calls...
But i do understand that s2u2 can do what you guys might need, it locks the screen during in call.
Hennyb said:
Interested in having this feature too. Isn't it possible to have the G-Sensor determine when the phone is vertical and shut the screen and then when it is lying flat to turn the screen back on again. Believe that the Iphone does it this way, not with the light sensor.
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I think the Iphone has something called proximity sensor, which senses the distance from the ear to the phone, hence when the phone rest on the outer ear, the phone screen shut off.
Or am I wrong?
Section9 said:
I think the Iphone has something called proximity sensor, which senses the distance from the ear to the phone, hence when the phone rest on the outer ear, the phone screen shut off.
Or am I wrong?
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No, you're right. It uses an iR sensor to know if there's something near the phone.
I find this behavior of my touch pro irritating and stupid. The screen goes off during coversation. We all know that. And we know that we can tweak it via the registry not to go off at all.
But WHY can't it just act like my wife's iPhone does? The iPhone turns the screen off during conversation by using the LIGHT DETECTOR. So when you put it near your ear screen goes off and immediately returns when you move the phone away from your ear. I am using my wife's iphone a lot and I can say this behavior works excellent, flawless and so much better than the Touch Pro, where it's either goes off and I have to click on a button each time to turn it on again. Or just leave the LCD on even I talk for half an hour. Did anyone fix that ?
Look for Touch InCall Screen Tweak.
Check the options for:
"Ignore Light Sensor"
"Ignore First Screen Off"
and I believe it'll work how you want it to.
unless one talk for a long time turning on and off the lcd backlight would most likely use more power then having it on during the call these devices don't have led backlight or use oled
so there is still a neon backlight type of thing I believe
and they use most power when turning on
mindfrost82 said:
Look for Touch InCall Screen Tweak.
Check the options for:
"Ignore Light Sensor"
"Ignore First Screen Off"
and I believe it'll work how you want it to.
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I just want to second this. The behavior you describe really annoyed my about my fuze as well, when I had been using a Samsung Eternity that operated similar to the iPhone (detected when it was at your ear to turn off screen).
Get the program mindfrost said, it works like a charm! You can even make the phone automatically turn to speakerphone when you sit it face down mid-call, and go back to normal when you pick it back up! It's an excellent add-on.
I don' understand one thing. Why do we check Ignore Light Sensor? I have the program, my phone now works like an iphone with the settings you described but that option is throwing me for aloop
I went to the thread for the app and found that the app is working a bit different than I thought. I do enjoy this app. Nuts that this isn't an out of the box type behaviour.
the iphone doesnt use the ambient light sensor, it uses the proximity sensor which the touch pro doesnt have. if you tilt it up to the sunlight you can see 3 black spots on the iphone. one that is the light sensor, a proximity beam and sensor. it can tell if an object like your face is too close to use the screen and turns it off during a call.
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the iphone doesnt use the ambient light sensor, it uses the proximity sensor which the touch pro doesnt have. if you tilt it up to the sunlight you can see 3 black spots on the iphone. one that is the light sensor, a proximity beam and sensor. it can tell if an object like your face is too close to use the screen and turns it off during a call.
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Thanks for all replies. I will try Touch InCall that you guys suggested.
Jack : I didn't know that. That seems like a smart thing to do, better than using the light sensor I wonder why the HTC guys didn't think about that being that the HTC devices are more expensive, newer and should have better tech. Oh well
I'm a bit curious why everybody wants their screen to remain on while they are talking on the phone. Do you like to press the screen with your cheek while you're talking? What do you need to look at the screen for? I've always had the option of turning the screen off while talking enabled.
pennywisdom said:
I'm a bit curious why everybody wants their screen to remain on while they are talking on the phone. Do you like to press the screen with your cheek while you're talking? What do you need to look at the screen for? I've always had the option of turning the screen off while talking enabled.
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I don't think anyone is saying that - they want the screen to turn off when the phone is against their face, and turn on if the phone is moved, to type in numbers, take notes, etc.
DaveLinger said:
I don't think anyone is saying that - they want the screen to turn off when the phone is against their face, and turn on if the phone is moved, to type in numbers, take notes, etc.
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Yep. That's correct
DaveLinger said:
I don't think anyone is saying that - they want the screen to turn off when the phone is against their face, and turn on if the phone is moved, to type in numbers, take notes, etc.
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I guess the impression I got from the Tilt (which doesn't have a light sensor) and the users of the Tilt, they didn't like the screen to blank during a call. I always turn my screen off with the power button if I have to while I'm on the phone so I never understood why they wanted it to stay on.
I think the problem with using the photo sensor reading is that if it is dark, you'll never get the screen to turn back on, even if you pull the phone away from your ear.
On the Raphael/Touch Pro perhaps the improved screen sensitivity and the non-bezelled screen makes for ear shenanigans while ear mashing.
I could get away with ear mashing on the Tilt and the Wizard.
What if you are using bluetooth in the car?
May be this tool will be usefull.
It switch off screen using proximity sensor detection.
Like alternative power button.
After proximity detected - screen switched off and proximity sensor don't used until screen will be switched on again manualy.
No screenshots
Second time running will unload program from memory, it can be used for switching on/off proximity lock feature.
All settings in registry, settings reloaded on each program run.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Exidler\Hd2ProximityScreenOff
AfterCallReactivateSensor = dword:150 - time in ms when activate proximity sensor after call ended
SensorOffWhenProximity = dword:0 - time in ms when disabling proximity sensor on proximity detected. May be useful for disabling accident detection. This time proximity sensor is still active and if no porximity detected with this time - screen will be switched on automatically
ActiveOnlyIfLocked = dword:0 - Activate Proximity sensor only if Phone locked.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Exidler\Hd2ProximityScreenOff\Exceptions
Create any named sub keys with values:
ClassName = string - name of windows class
WndTitle = string - title of window
ProcName = string - name of process
For exception windows proximity sensor will be disabled if this one window is active.
All criterias are optional. For example create only one value ProcName="Explorer.exe" for disabling proximity lock when Resco Explorer is active.
Proximity sensor activated only in portrait mode.
Change log
2010-01-29: v0.2
- full uninstallable cab
- add options: After Call Reactivate Sensor, Sensor Off When Proximity, Active Only If Phone Locked, Exception windows
- disbaling Proximity lock when landscape mode
2010-01-28: v0.1 Test version. Bugs possible.
Great something to get us started, did you make this yourself? Are you willing to put some time in to perfect it & create some options etc. if we bug test it?
exidler said:
May be this tool will be usefull.
It switch off screen using proximity sensor detection.
Like alternative power button.
After proximity detected - screen switched off and proximity sensor don't used until screen will be switched on again manualy.
No screenshots, not settings, just install and reboot phone (or run tool manual from Install directory)
Second time running will unload program from memory.
Test version. Bugs possible.
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How will this effect the screen turning on after a phonecall, i wan't the screen automatically turned on after a call without having to press a button.
Will this tweak allow default function in that case?
richardirv said:
Are you willing to put some time in to perfect it & create some options etc. if we bug test it?
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I don't know which options may be added.
I'm can't full control proximity sensor. It's only possible to enable proximity sensor, and htc drivers switching off screen by itself. The i'm disable proximity sensor again
But if it's will be possible to implement some features - i can try to do this.
Ok this is a good start, for me the following things need to be worked out for this to work good.
1. Only works when phone is upright, ie. Portrait. Reason being is if the screen goes off via Proximity in when holding the phone in landscape there will be allot of accidental activations, especially while playing games etc. It is much less likely that proximity will be detected when holding the phone upright.
2. Screen needs to come back on when proximity not detected, as to not cancel out the in call screen off feature.
Will keep thinking! Really hope you can work some magic here exidler!! Thanks
ET said:
How will this effect the screen turning on after a phonecall, i wan't the screen automatically turned on after a call without having to press a button.
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it will handle proximity sensor to default behavior after call. so i think (and shure) - screen will blink for short time (~200ms) and will be switched off by tool.
exidler said:
it will handle proximity sensor to default behavior after call. so i think (and shure) - screen will blink for short time (~200ms) and will be switched off by tool.
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Let me test, I assume the cab can be de-installed and everything is back to default behaviour?
richardirv said:
1. Only works when phone is upright, ie. Portrait. Reason being is if the screen goes off via Proximity in when holding the phone in landscape there will be allot of accidental activations, especially while playing games etc. It is much less likely that proximity will be detected when holding the phone upright.
2. Screen needs to come back on when proximity not detected, as to not cancel out the in call screen off feature.
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in call screen back on when no proximity
when not in call - it switch off. or you talking about switching on screen when not in call?
about landscape and portrait. it's make easy if screen orientation really changed (if not - polling g-sensor - is not a good idea for battery i'm think)
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Let me test, I assume the cab can be de-installed and everything is back to default behaviour?
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Cab is Uninstallable, but you must close program manually before uninstalling: run program second time, it will show message about closing
exidler said:
in call screen back on when no proximity
when not in call - it switch off. or you talking about switching on screen when not in call?
about landscape and portrait. it's make easy if screen orientation really changed (if not - polling g-sensor - is not a good idea for battery i'm think)
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I just ment you don't want it to interfere with the in call actions the HD2 already has.
As you say g-sensor polling etc. no good for battery. I have a feeling this maybe flawed before we get started.
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I just ment you don't want it to interfere with the in call actions the HD2 already has.
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program know about call and not be interferace with HD2 proximity call actions.
Landscape alternative - Programs (windows) exceptions - when it's active - promity sensor may be disabled. (but this feature need more time for apply)
Just tested the app and maid an incomming call with an other phone, the screen will automaticly turn on after moving from my ear as should be.
Great app I must say!
My fear is when using apps like fpsece etc, the screen will keep going off. Need to put our heads together and brainstorm some ideas to prevent acidental proximity.
The landscape idea with g-sensor was the first thing that came to me but hopefully there will be a better idea. Maybe only when the phone is perfectly horizontal (i.e as it goes into a pocket) The problem is keeping the g-sensor active will drain battery....
Idea's peeps!!
Hmm no way of de-installing it. If I use the app and then push the on button and then try to remove the app via start/settings, after about 10 seconds the device freezes.
Even after trying to install the app again (wich usually workes to remove apps witch can't be completely removed via start/settings) the device freezes.
Taking battery out is only way to restart. App remaines on device though.
Noticed also that the app is flawed, trying to go with my right finger to the left top of the screen to push start makes the screen turn of and that simply sucks.
HOW TO REMOVE THIS APP?
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HOW TO REMOVE THIS APP?
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Before uninstalling go to install folder (defaul is \Program Files\Hd2ProxmityScreenOff) and run exe file inside Hd2ProxmityScreenOff.exe
You will see message about that programe closed. Tap Ok and then uninstall.
All be fine.
about freezing when uninstalling without stopping in memory process i'm know.
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Before uninstalling go to install folder (defaul is \Program Files\Hd2ProxmityScreenOff) and run exe file inside Hd2ProxmityScreenOff.exe
You will see message about that programe closed. Tap Ok and then uninstall.
All be fine.
about freezing when uninstalling without stopping in memory process i'm know.
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OK thanks, it's de-installed correctly. Maybe will use it in the future when it has matured a bit.
The programm should look on proximity-sensor, when i turn on my phone with the power-button.
--> if proximity detectet, screen should be staying off
--> if no proximity, phone should be wake up
Is this possible with your app? This would be a very great feature off our hd2! Perfect locking solution!
Bib_x said:
The programm should look on proximity-sensor, when i turn on my phone with the power-button.
--> if proximity detectet, screen should be staying off
--> if no proximity, phone should be wake up
Is this possible with your app? This would be a very great feature off our hd2! Perfect locking solution!
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it's not possible until full hack of promitiy sensor.
i'm not have a fule of knowlendge fo arm assembler interpereting.
it' not difficlt for poples, how have knowledge of arm programs research.
but for me, i'm only can handle simple events
We are waiting for full promitiy API
so all of yours requests is impossimle.
Its a good start. Keep the project on.
perhaps a little bit easier to develop and to get various possibilities:
could you add 2 parameters to your app:
-activate
-deactivate
or so.
then it could be called also from other apps depend on its needs and states.
And also one scenario: It should only work if screen is locked(using notification).Then it's sure,that it should switch off because sensor detection
Keep up your great work.A really good idea,which can be very useful, if adaptable and a little configurable.
Thanx
Micha
Hi,
I would like to use Tasker to control screen on/off times based on following conditions:
1) Keep screen on when reading/using mobile:
a)IF SCREEN IS ON: If handset is in vertical position (reading position), either in portrait or landscape depending on orientation set in android then screen should stay on. This would presume mobile is being used.
b) When handset is laid down on table then screen should turn off after 7 secs automatically or when screen is manually turned off.
note: It would be nice to have a window period of 10 secs after screen off wherein if the handset is picked up within that period, (after the initial 7 secs and before another 10 secs) then screen automatically turns on.
2) NOTIFICATIONS
If notifications are received, have a window period of 15-30 secs where if position of android is changed from desk horizontal to vertical then screen automatically comes on without the need to press power button.This presumes we picked up mobile to view the notification event.
Again first rule applies and screen stays on when reading and turns off auto or manually as per first rule
I have tried but not able to configure rules.
One conflict in mind:-
What if mobile is kept in trouser pocket and notifications are received? Here the gyro won't change as it will go from vertical to vertical position....how to deal with that? Also rule 2 should not auto trigger upon receiving notifications, sensing orientation is vertical when in trouser pocket.
Any help?
Thanks in advance
About the conflict, I think I saw that you can implement a profile that check if your face is in front of the tablet or not (like on S3).
As a personal comment, I would go all way to this aproach: check if you are in front of the camera and decide when to turn screen on.
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About the conflict, I think I saw that you can implement a profile that check if your face is in front of the tablet or not (like on S3).
As a personal comment, I would go all way to this aproach: check if you are in front of the camera and decide when to turn screen on.
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Hi,
The problem with using the front camera is that it will cause battery drain. The camera would constantly have to keep checking for movement and this would definitely drain battery. I am more inclined to use the gyro for this.
I agree with you, but you can at least double the gyro with camera check. even if it will consume some battery, it will avoid other problems.
Or maybe you can also use the proximity sensor?
Another way I can think is to try and detect the shakes (combination of proximity and gyro). Considering the power of Tasker, I think it can be done.
If you manage to succeed, please let me know. I am also interested in something like this, I just never have the time to build such complex scenarios.
okty2k said:
I agree with you, but you can at least double the gyro with camera check. even if it will consume some battery, it will avoid other problems.
Or maybe you can also use the proximity sensor?
Another way I can think is to try and detect the shakes (combination of proximity and gyro). Considering the power of Tasker, I think it can be done.
If you manage to succeed, please let me know. I am also interested in something like this, I just never have the time to build such complex scenarios.
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I could not get it to work thats why asking for help.
Hi Friends,
Can anyone tell me how do I keep my phone screen on while talking on speakphone? It annoying to turn it on again & again. Is this an issue with device or by default.? Pls help I still have few days for replacement.
I don't think you can do that.
The screen is designed to go off to ensure that voice calls get absolute battery priority because voice calls are more important than a screen that's on. Since we aren't in emergencies this obviously sounds dumb but that is the intended purpose.
You can try making the lock screen timeout to much longer and see if it also applies during calls.
Personally though I see absolutely no reason why someone would want their screen on when talking with someone.
Screen is off because of proximity sensor so you don't touch the screen with the face. It's not a battery saving feature.
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Screen is off because of proximity sensor so you don't touch the screen with the face. It's not a battery saving feature.
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Which again comes to the part where I said "I don't see why anyone would want their screen on when talking to someone."
I see it as battery saving as well as preventing accidental touches.