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[Q] first post, 2 day owner of inspire 4g questions

hello
i have a new stock inspire 4g and i was thinking of rooting not sure yet. i used to have a samsung vibrant which had unknown sources option available thats pretty much all i would root the phone for im not interested in flashing or anything i would just like to use amazon market and some other apps. using a sideloading app would not work beacuse i wouldnt be able to install from amazon. i was reading and wanted to know if it where posible without making a goldcard using attn1 step 2 script (hackerize-ace setup-downgrade which if im not mistaken it will give you temp root until u reboot without having to actually downgrade) just imput in cmd prompt something to enable unknown sources? i dont need the option to be available in applications just want it to be enabled. if this is not possible and my only choice is to root then ive been reading some issues on rooting and wanted to make sure. if i use bubby's method would i loose sound like on attn1's method? im not planning on flashing anything after that so i will not lose hsupa? at the end of the rooting process what will i have the stock rom rooted with all att apps or the downgraded desire rom? and last how do i unroot and/or return to stock after this? again asuming i use bubby's method. thanks for all help in advance and sorry for all these questions i have done some reading on this great forum and wanted to make sure i understood correctly before doing anything

yankee_pr said:
hello
i have a new stock inspire 4g and i was thinking of rooting not sure yet. i used to have a samsung vibrant which had unknown sources option available thats pretty much all i would root the phone for im not interested in flashing or anything i would just like to use amazon market and some other apps. using a sideloading app would not work beacuse i wouldnt be able to install from amazon. i was reading and wanted to know if it where posible without making a goldcard using attn1 step 2 script (hackerize-ace setup-downgrade which if im not mistaken it will give you temp root until u reboot without having to actually downgrade) just imput in cmd prompt something to enable unknown sources? i dont need the option to be available in applications just want it to be enabled. if this is not possible and my only choice is to root then ive been reading some issues on rooting and wanted to make sure. if i use bubby's method would i loose sound like on attn1's method? im not planning on flashing anything after that so i will not lose hsupa? at the end of the rooting process what will i have the stock rom rooted with all att apps or the downgraded desire rom? and last how do i unroot and/or return to stock after this? again asuming i use bubby's method. thanks for all help in advance and sorry for all these questions i have done some reading on this great forum and wanted to make sure i understood correctly before doing anything
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Check out my guide, it has a side loading apps section. You cannot root and s-off with out making a gold card. You can use bubby's GUI but its the same process essentially. If you haven't rooted you don't hsupa anyways, and only "some" people loose hsupa. After you root you will have a stock rooted inspire rom with att bloatware still installed. Also in the guide as well.

I like you didn't really want to root this phone... I had a captivate prior to this and never really bothered installing different roms. Basically just used andromeda.
But seriously, rooting this phone is much easier than it looks. It's just takes a min
There are also some pretty sweet roms floating around.
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mudknot2005 said:
Check out my guide, it has a side loading apps section. You cannot root and s-off with out making a gold card. You can use bubby's GUI but its the same process essentially. If you haven't rooted you don't hsupa anyways, and only "some" people loose hsupa. After you root you will have a stock rooted inspire rom with att bloatware still installed. Also in the guide as well.
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thanks. im still a little undecided of rooting or not what would be the benefits? by rooting can i do something to boost the sound? im also worried about the radio and rom being stock with hsupa(by this u mean their 4g or hspa right?) and all is because where i live the only cell company with signal is att and its not that great so i dont want to mess with the little signal i have. plz correct m if im wrong im new at this. thanks for all help in advance

ldd2142 said:
I like you didn't really want to root this phone... I had a captivate prior to this and never really bothered installing different roms. Basically just used andromeda.
But seriously, rooting this phone is much easier than it looks. It's just takes a min
There are also some pretty sweet roms floating around.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App
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thanks bro i dont know why i used to jailbreak and mess with iphones all the time but for some reason on android this seams a little complicated and i dont want to mess up the phone just after 2 days it is a pretty good phone as is but being restricted to android market its just not right.

yankee_pr said:
thanks. im still a little undecided of rooting or not what would be the benefits? by rooting can i do something to boost the sound? im also worried about the radio and rom being stock with hsupa(by this u mean their 4g or hspa right?) and all is because where i live the only cell company with signal is att and its not that great so i dont want to mess with the little signal i have. plz correct m if im wrong im new at this. thanks for all help in advance
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You'll need to flash a custom rom/kernel for the volume fix unless there's a Froyo version of something like this floating around somewhere that you'd just be able to sideload.

yankee_pr said:
thanks bro i dont know why i used to jailbreak and mess with iphones all the time but for some reason on android this seams a little complicated and i dont want to mess up the phone just after 2 days it is a pretty good phone as is but being restricted to android market its just not right.
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It's a great phone out-of-the-box, no doubt about it, and there's nothing wrong with waiting a while before rooting.
Learn how the phone behaves normally, make sure there's no manufacturing flaws, etc.
Chances are, though, seeing as you have already identified the limitation of being unable to side-load, you will eventually root.
It's a piece of cake, as long as you have your head clear and follow the process to the letter.
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Newcomers please read me, a helpful little guide

While I'm seeing an influx of new comers to the MyTouch4G section, most likely due to newer phones coming out and picking these up cheap.
I'd like to remind you of a couple of things prior to just jumping in and rooting your phone.
Disclaimer: i am not a mod or an admin, just a humble "helper outer"
First Things First.​Rooting one's phone is not to be taken lightly. When you root your phone to are basically giving your self SU access to the /system files of your phone. While this allows for GREAT expansion of the devices capabilities, you need to under stand that it can also brick your device in a heart beat. I know a guy who lives in St.Louis who said all he did was flash a custom font, via an application, on his rooted droid 2 and it bricked. You need to read, and understand what you are getting into. Because when the rubber meets the road you are the only one who can save your phone.
Secondly and just as important as anything else else.​please install the ADB drivers at a minimum. TrueBlue_Drew has put together a very simple walk-through with video for this http://bit.ly/q7MP9t. Please take the time to learn the basic commands and what they do.
Third, and this can prevent some headaches down the road​please go and check which eMMC chipset you have. Our phones where made in two different places, and have two different Chip set serial numbers. One of them is problematic and one of them is pretty safe. Please take time to verify which chipset you have prior to flashing anything. And yes it can be done without root access [http://bit.ly/y2zmdr]. Please see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Fourth, and this is where the rubbers meets the road. ​A)
You need to decide which root method is for you. There are two different proven methods out there. One is known as the root.sh method. This is the simplest method. the long and short of it is this. You download a packet, extract a folder to your SD Cards root directory. Then you download, install and run a program called VISIONary. after you do that you enter a simple command or two to run the script in the extracted folder. you can find that method here root.sh method now this method will work to turn your phone into a rooted s-off phone. and is super easy i used this method to root my phone with s-off before i even left the T-Mobile store when i bought the devices. However it only turns off the security flags. IF you flash the PD15IMG to return to a stock fashion it will remove all SU rights.
B)
the second method is a bit more entailed but completely removes the security flags. IT's called ./gfree method. Now you need to be careful because this will root a phone with a bad eMMC chipset. Meaning it will be easier for you to brick your device. If that happens you own a 200-500 USD paper weight. And as of currently there is no sure fire way to recover from it. you can find more on that method here ./gfree rooting method.
c)
ONLY IF YOU HAVE THE STOCK 2.3.4 (GINGERBREAD) ROM
you must downgrade to 2.2.1 before you can root your phone.
Please see this link http://bit.ly/rugejM.
d)
if you do not know what you are doing i would advise against the OneClickRoot for rooting ANY phone. It's a simple path to enable someone with no knowledge to root their device.
We are glad you have chosen to make XDA your source for all of your hacker needs. But please take some time and read and study prior to doing anything. We'd hate to see you root and brick your phone because you over looked something.
the Q&A section is used for just that Questions and Answers
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the Development Section is just that a section where you can find ROMS, Kernels, hacker, and PC/Mac/Linux guides
the App section is just that a place for us to talk about add ons and applications
everything else falls under the general section.
hope you enjoy your stay here.

Finally, and i wanted to post this separately
please do not be afraid of the search button or Google. Chances are if you've encountered a problem, or have a question. Someone has already asked it, or solved it.
Please watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Thanks for this. So your saying not to root at all if you have the "bad" chipset?
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Thanks for this. So your saying not to root at all if you have the "bad" chipset?
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that is what is encouraged, unless you want a $500 brick.

saranhai said:
that is what is encouraged, unless you want a $500 brick.
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So I got that, plus the bad display!!! Do I call T-Mobile?
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Thank you this is very helpful! I just got replacement mt4g due to the bad emmc chip failing and it had the 2.3.4 on it. And it was a pain finding all the info plus the bad info people was giving out to root my phone. So now all new and replacement mt4g's are shipping with 2.3.4 on them, my mother just got a free mt4g and it had 2.3.4 already on it.

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Thanks for this. So your saying not to root at all if you have the "bad" chipset?
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If it does go bad there is good chance you can exchange it just don't tell them anything about you rooted the phone. I sent my phone in rooted with S off with a different problem and had no problem getting an exchange now I have this 2.3.4 which is not too bad but still figuring out the downgrade process I miss all the privileges with being rooted.

jigajay said:
If it does go bad there is good chance you can exchange it just don't tell them anything about you rooted the phone. I sent my phone in rooted with S off with a different problem and had no problem getting an exchange now I have this 2.3.4 which is not too bad but still figuring out the downgrade process I miss all the privileges with being rooted.
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+1 on replacing with no problem.
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Rooted and downgraded with this guide. Thanks SOO MUCH!!!
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This thread should probably be stickied.

chem.manish said:
This thread should probably be stickied.
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You could PM a local admin/mod and they could do that if they see fit.

Great guide! It helped me with several questions I had, I was even able to check if I had a bad eMMC, I'm lucky I have the good one \o/
My phone came with 2.3.4, I really want to root to remove all the junk that comes preinstalled.
I have a question, if I used the root.sh method (which seems the safest), after downgrading of course. If I flash a rooted stock 2.3.4 ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264704
Would I loose my S-OFF? Also to install the ClockworkMod recovery, is it the same way as other phones? ex can I just install it using the ROM manager?
Also is it really necessary to flash the engineering bootloader?
thanks for this great tutorial!

Salvy said:
Would I loose my S-OFF? Also to install the ClockworkMod recovery, is it the same way as other phones? ex can I just install it using the ROM manager?
Also is it really necessary to flash the engineering bootloader?
thanks for this great tutorial!
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Once you have s-off, you will keep s-off until you manually turn it to s-on. So to answer your question.
No if you flash the rooted 2.3.4 of the stock OS you will keep s-off.
Yes you can flash it via the recovery image, without any problems. Just make sure to do a back up first.
It's not really needed, but encouraged as you can flash specific sections of the OS, or recovery image if needed.

Thank you very much for your help!
Everything went smoothly, now I'm in 2.3.4 rooted with bloat and ad free ^_^
The root.sh method didn't work for me though, but gfree worked like a charm (was kind of scared using it, but since I already checked my eMMC was good, I went ahead and worked perfectly!)
Thanks for your help!

thanks for help

Thanks, very useful information for mytouch 4g owners

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Great guide! Thanks!

nice starting guide for new mytouch 4g users hoping to root to read!

Thanks for the info!

[Q] Root vs. No Root for a Sensation Noob

I've had an original Motorola Droid the last 2 years, finally finished my contract and just bought a used Sensation 4G off contract with T-Mobile... allowing me to change phones more often than every 2 years... it felt like prison!
I rooted my Droid, and liked the ways I could customize it and clean off bloatware that I never used. I wanted to free up as much memory as I could because the Droid didn't have a lot to start with.
The Sensation has even more bloatware, and for now, I'm not so much interested in being able to flash a new ROM as I am to just be able to delete the stuff I don't want. So I have some questions...
I used HTC's Bootloader Unlock tool and now the phone is unlocked. It thought that may allow me to delete apps... but no such luck.
Is there another way for me to do this... or is it still necessary to root the phone?
If I do need to root it... what is the easiest way for me to do it?
Should I re-lock my bootloader, or is it OK to leave it unlocked?
With ICS being pushed out to the Sensation in June, how will my unlocked bootloader or rooted status affect that? Or should I just flash an ICS ROM and not deal with the OTA update?
If I were to flash an ICS ROM... which one is the most stable and most highly recommended?
If I were to keep my current stock ROM for now... is it possible to put a 3rd party launcher, like ADW Launcher Pro to replace Sense?
I realize it's a lot of questions... but I've been digging around online to find answers and can't seem to find what I need. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I can answer some of your questions. As far as I know, you will have to root your phone to delete (or freeze) bloatware. What app were you using on your Droid to do this? I think you should leave your bootloader unlocked. I don't even bother with official updates because the custom roms run so well. I am currently running CoinDroid 1.1.0 and it is amazing! It is Android 4.0 and also Sense 4.0. You can always install ADW but it will not replace everything Sense. It will replace the launcher but other parts of Sense will remain (such as lock screen and certain apps like calculator, calendar, etc.). The following threads might be helpful to you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1613295
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609844

Thanks...
Thanks for some great info...
I'll root and install an ICS ROM that's available out there. I appreciate the answers and am interested in any advice I can get.

Yea just follow the s-off guide, the revolutionary method makes things very easy. You dont even have to worry about rooting, just s-off, install custom recovery and then installing a rooted rom will root the phone.
Also bear in mind to install an ics rom you will need the latest 3.32 firmware flashed - also very easy just follow the guides.
Good luck !
Sent from my Sensation using XDA

Only disadvantage to rooting is that there are a few apps that won't run from a rooted phone, and ie the sky go app (if you're a UK resident!)
Thanks..

Thanks... I'm in the U.S. so that app isn't a problem, but are there any other notable apps I should be aware of?

andybites said:
Only disadvantage to rooting is that there are a few apps that won't run from a rooted phone, and ie the sky go app (if you're a UK resident!)
Thanks..
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Ah the pain! I was really excited about Sky Go but well. Having root is more important for me than some crappy tele :-D

Hi there.
I've been using the following ROM for a couple of months now and would highly recommend it. Great ROM and the thread is full of helpful folk and info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849
I've never regretted rooting my Sensation and hope you get on OK.

riz1234 said:
Ah the pain! I was really excited about Sky Go but well. Having root is more important for me than some crappy tele :-D
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Use supersu it will allow you to temporarily turn off root to use those apps that won't work when rooted.
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[Q] No one's playing with the LG LS840 'Viper'?

Ok, so having transferred back to Sprint after an arduous ordeal with Verizon, I now have my new LG LS840 'Viper'[A.os v2.3.3] and have rooted the system. This was definitely not my preferred choice (I wanted the HTC Evo LTE), but it seems like you all got to them first. Now having said this, I find it alarming how few (if I manage to find any @ all) posts there are about the above mentioned LG.
I have run into a few problems. As in things like; I have root and su# capability. System apps. which require root seem to work fine(i.e. mem. optimizers and CPU controls etc.). That is until I try Clockwork Recovery which sends the device into reboot. Also, trying to access the bootloader in the common android fashion (Pwr+Vol.Dn) does nothing more than send me to a 'Factory Data Reset' option.
Now please understand that I am new to LG, as all my experience is with HTC, both at Sprint prev.(HTC EVO 4G wi-max) and at Verizon (HTC Thunderbolt LTE) I think I simply got conned into this fone.
So, If any one reading this post has any experience with the LG Viper, or any other LG device, or both (preferably), Please, give me the run down on how these devices work or any input on the above listed issues.
Also, any links to information (etc.) will be highly appreciated.
Thank You, JLM

p.s.
I should also probably mention that I rooted the device using the SuperOneClick method listed @ Androidcentral.com

I have LG P509 Optimus T to access recovery home, volume up and power. I'm using AmonRa 3.0.6 but same button combination for Clockworkmod recovery.
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA

Have you installed a cutom recovery yet? You will need it to flash rom's and make backups.

fdaconta said:
Have you installed a cutom recovery yet? You will need it to flash rom's and make backups.
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Not yet. I thought that S1C would load it. I have currently found a user program that is supposed to work with LG viper. I have yet to try and run it. Here is the url address http://d-h.st/GFZ. with a little more time maybe I can have it worked out.

JzMac said:
Not yet. I thought that S1C would load it. I have currently found a user program that is supposed to work with LG viper. I have yet to try and run it. Here is the url address http://d-h.st/GFZ. with a little more time maybe I can have it worked out.
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Perhaps I should mention that the SuperOneClick version I used successfully was v.1.7 and not the v.2.3.3 that is listed in the Androidcentral Forum. With v.2.3.3 it always froze trying to load Superuser.apk

I jut got one of these todays. Cannot figure out how to get to the boot-loader yet.

JzMac said:
I should also probably mention that I rooted the device using the SuperOneClick method listed @ Androidcentral.com
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^^ boss

LG
LG is a good brand was thinknig of getting it

I've had this phone for about 6-8 weeks now and still cannot find any roms to flash.

Jelly Bean release
I get the feeling the Viper is suffering because of LG's decision to release it with GB when ICS had been available for so long. Maybe there's some light at the end of the tunnel. I did find at least one rumor saying it will get a Jelly Bean Update in the Sept/Oct time frame. It might be enough to get some interest back into the device. Without some interest on the part of Devs, this isn't going to move much at all. It might already be past a critical adoption time too.
Since I'm a noob, I can't post a link, but go ahead and Google:
List of AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile Phones that will get Jelly Bean

Its actually a pretty slick little device for the price. Can't beat free
Sent from my LG-LS840 using xda app-developers app

Give it some more time. Things are in the works.
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If anyone is that desperate ... Donate to one of the hard working dev teams...i can name a few...once we get fully stable clock work mod recovery we're of to the races.
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Name em when I get paid ill donate
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I'm quite disappointed with this phone and the lack of development. It's been a great phone despite the fact that something fried inside my first one, and now my 2nd may be suffering from the same thing. I might keep this phone as a spare and upgrade to something better soon.

I'll have to agree with earlier, this little thing (my main is a SII Epic 4g Touch) is not bad. My girl had got one, said she was having problems so I switched, giving her my Photon 4g, but since I've had it, and rooted it, I haven't had a lick of problem out of it. One thing that has surprised me is also the what has seemed an extreme lack of support on it (I've had a custom rom on every one of my phones since my first cappy 3 years ago). Another is the external speaker....my goodness!! this thing is twice as loud as my SII....of course LG has been slowing falling off the bandwagon, but somehow holding on in the android race. And tho I'm a Galaxy S freak, this phone is alright. For free, a hell of a deal.

Net-Jester said:
I've had this phone for about 6-8 weeks now and still cannot find any roms to flash.
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from what ive found on the internet the only way to have custom roms on the lg viper is to flash back to GB with the lg flashtool and then flash a rom. I think the bootloader is locked and that's why you cant do anything with it. I haven't tried to unlock with any programs or anything cause I don't think im that advanced but if you want to try go ahead. this is all just info ive gathered from the internet though. I have managed to root ics zvk though. just don't freeze or uninstall google play movies and tv. it gives a security error.
if you want to root zvk follow these steps though;
1) install lg flashtool and flash phone to zvi
2) root with Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v15
3) install ota root keeper(voodoo ota rootkeeper)
4)temp unroot in ota rootkeeper
5)install update to zvk
6)restore root in ota rootkeeper
7)enjoy!!!

It's late, but I'm playing with it. I'm using a thread to summarize what I find.

[Q] Rooting 2.3.4 on latest OTA

I was just posting this to ask if anyone had found a way to root gingerbread running the latest OTA, the one where HTCLinkifyDispatcher was added. I had rooted my old shift before (also running 2.3.4) using Vicodan's method, but I then had problems and had to get a new Shift recently, and someone else who was holding my phone at the time installed the OTA so I am unsure as to whether I can still root using any method.
Looking through the posts, I found that the ShiftySonOfA script had been attempted, but does not work on this OTA. However, I do not know about the other methods. If anyone can confirm whether they work or not, that would be great, before I attempt to root my phone and have to stop in the middle of the process. If not, I can attempt the other methods and then post here again with my results as to whether I was able to get root on this OTA.
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EDIT: Workaround found by JohnnyCakeXM here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1932788

If your trying to root the 2.77.651.8 ota your out of luck for people looking for the exploit. May just have to try to HTC dev unlock and rock it s-on with cwm
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Indirect may be looking into this but I'm not sure.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558532
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Hmm yeah that was the one that I read through, the most that Indirect said about it was that he wasn't sure if it would work on this OTA, so I'm not sure myself...hopefully he is though
Also on a sidenote not related to this question...I would love to become a developer. Or even help a developer because I really like this sort of stuff. If anybody would be willing to apprentice me or something like that, that would be great because I would like to (at some point) maybe even make my own root for an Android. Any replies to this are welcome, or pointers as to how to get started and stuff. Thanks in advance!

next month i might be either upgrading both of my lines or cancelling my contract, not really sure yet but either way ill probably be selling both of my evo shifts then. or maybe ill donate to indirect (for root purposes) and pwnyourace (for development purposes (ROMS))