Is there a way to disable mobile data EDGE/3G in a ROM build?
I want to use this phone on a line with no data connection and have it not get picked up by the system as a smart phone. I only want voice and WIFI available.
I have a flip phone that I can stuff the SIM into and have ATT block all data access before putting the SIM back into the Inspire.
Does what I want to do make sense?
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Correct me if I am wrong but the imei will dictate to to ATT what type of phone that is. So if you can spoof that then you are good.
I work for VZW customer care and the imei is the same thing as an esn/meid and when that is entered on my system it pulls up the phone type and automatically provisions stuff. So when you stick the sim into the phone ATT is going to pick up the imei of that phone auto provision a data pkg.
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Hi. As the title says. I have just bought my dad a g1 from ebay, he has a tmobile payg sim card with no data plan, I have a g1 with a g1 data plan, if he uses my sim card to activate it will he still get the ability to take and make calls?
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As far as I know, he'll need to use data to activate it as he will need to sign on with his GMail account.
g1 without data plan
What do you meen by data, he will use my sim to aactivate and his gmail to sync data, and after that he will swap to his payg tmob sim card, so will he get phone call ability,
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yeah he would be able to activate it with your sim card. But once he puts in his sim card, the data charges may start to come up. I would say before you put in his sim card, delete the apn settings. that should kill any data from working so it is then just a phone. But the wifi can still work. or have his plan upgraded to a flexpay with the g1 service. You dont need a contract with that..
Yup that's gud, so deleat the apn's to stop tmob from charging and just use as normal g1 without 3g or grps or edge, ps how do I deleat apns
I am sure thats how it works. you can get "NetMeter" from the marketplace. that will tell you if there is anything accessing the data plan.
to remove apn go to
menu --> wireless controls --> Mobile Networks --> Access Point Names in there you will want to click on T-Mobile US - T-Mobile US 800 and remove the APN. Assuming you are in the US.
Thanks for quick reply, I'm in uk but I'm sure that will be the same but for tmob uk. Thank allot
If I was you I would post to get some feedback, it is a big post all about the APN settings. they should know more then me about it all.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475564
When I turn on my tp2 why does it always tell me data connection error. Click the settings link to set it up? I do not have any use for it and I always have to disable itinerary comm manager even though I already disable it. This drives me mad! I bleeping hate this.
Create a duplicate of the connection. i had this problem when i was using the wmwifi program and it somehow messed my connection up. i waqs on the phone with the verizon techs and they couldnt figure it out...of course i didnt tell them i was tethering bcuz i didnt wanna draw attention to my account. they had me do a hard reset to fix it...which it did but it wasnt needed....so
Go to Settings
Connection(Tab)
Add New Modem Connection
Enter A Name: you can put anything here but i guess "Verizon" would be proper
Select a Modem: Cellular Line , click (next)
Enter #777 for the number to be dialed
User Name: Your phone [email protected] Ex. [email protected]
Password: vzw
(finish)
set your phone to operate through that connection, hopefully that works for you
I want data connection off. I am so sick of it.
if you want it off i guess u can delete all your connections and it will prevent u from connecting. since the phone is programmed to operate on a connection you might always get a little ''eroor connection'' message i would guess
Go to Settings
Connection(Tab)
Manage Existing Connections
This was display all ur connections, tap and hold the connection and go to delete and that should do what your asking for...if you have no settings to connect with then your data connection shouldnt work(in theory it sounds right) its just something ive never did
You could try just programming the phone thru verizon (fixed my data error also), by dialing *228
...then pick option 2 and wait, it should fix up your data connection stuff
I currently have a PPC 6800 origionally with Alltel and now Verizon. I want to upgrade to the TP2. A person at the Verizon store told me that I have to have a data package or the phone will not work at all. I am not interested in a data package and use the phone for the WM applications and sync with Outlook. Right now I just have a voice and text package for my 6800 and I just want to keep it that way. Are they blowing smoke up my skirt or is that the real skinny?
I got the same line from the Alltel people when I bought the 6800 and it took 3 trips to the store and countless phone calls to support before they figured that out!
I'm really getting tired of having to reprogram my data connection settings for my cell phone service. Is there a way put this on the simcard similiar to like putting contacts on it.
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I'm really getting tired of having to reprogram my data connection settings for my cell phone service. Is there a way put this on the simcard similiar to like putting contacts on it.
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It is technically possible, but the phone would have to be programed to read and use the settings written on the SIM card. I doubt very many phone operating systems are set up that way.
I'm just getting tired of having to enter all the info each time I flash a new rom. Getting a lil have about it I guess.
If you have a sim free vanilla ROM the when you put a new sim in it automatically sets up APN, MMS etc. One of the number of advantages
Since I have the slide I guess all the roms, atleast all the ones I tried, aren't vanilla.
I just bought a used Verizon LG G5 (VS987), however my carrier is AT&T. After putting in the Sim card, calling and texting works but when I go to turn on mobile data in the settings, I get a popup that says "Add Mobile Service Please contact Customer Service at (800) 922-0204 for assistance."
I have called both that customer service number for Verizon ^ and also AT&T. I made sure that my IMEI was updated on our AT&T plan, and I have the right APN settings put in. When I called Verizon, the guy didn't really have much to say except that the device is unlocked but full access to features can't be guaranteed, and I am aware that Verizon and AT&T use different wireless bands, which he explained, but I should be able to at least have some kind of data. We both agreed that this is just some piece of Verizon software keeping me from using data, and he suggested rooting the phone to get a workaround.
One suggestion that I saw in some forums and tried was that resetting the network settings in Backup and Reset does turn mobile data on by default, however I get the same Verizon popup as soon as I open any browser, and other apps just say there is no connection, although when I do this I can see that I am getting either HSPA or 4G data, it just seems like it's being blocked by this Verizon stuff. Messing around with other setttings such as Data roaming and System select didn't change anything.
Does anyone have any experience using a Verizon G5 on AT&T? I saw a video of someone demoing T-Mobile 4G data on the Verizon model, and another user on XDA said that he put in his T-Mobile sim and it worked perfectly. My best guess on where to go from here is to unlock and root, and see if I can install a custom rom to get around this. Does anyone know if there is a stock LG rom without all of the Verizon bloatware installed, maybe a stock rom for the unlocked model of the G5? Any suggestions on how to get this to work are appreciated, and I think this is posted in the right place, I'm an active reader on XDA but this is one of my first posts
Thanks to anyone that reads all of this!
Update: I reset the phone to factory settings and set it up with the sim card from AT&T in it. Since then I can turn on mobile data, and the notification bar shows I have data (mostly HSPA), however I have no connection when I try to load a webpage. Tomorrow morning i'll stop by the AT&T store and see if there's anything they can do.
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Update: I reset the phone to factory settings and set it up with the sim card from AT&T in it. Since then I can turn on mobile data, and the notification bar shows I have data (mostly HSPA), however I have no connection when I try to load a webpage. Tomorrow morning i'll stop by the AT&T store and see if there's anything they can do.
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Did you add the correct APNs for AT&T in the phone when you put in your sim? you need it for internet and MMS
Did you which it to Gobal or other option that is not LTE/CDMA?
Same problem here
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Update: I reset the phone to factory settings and set it up with the sim card from AT&T in it. Since then I can turn on mobile data, and the notification bar shows I have data (mostly HSPA), however I have no connection when I try to load a webpage. Tomorrow morning i'll stop by the AT&T store and see if there's anything they can do.
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Was your problem solved? I'm having the same problem with another Verizon LG Device. If it was solved, what did you do?
I'd like to force my Pixel 7 to disconnect from any mobile network, without using airplane mode. Do you know a way to achieve this?
Reason for asking this: I will travel abroad and use a secondary SIM to provide me with data, while using my primary SIM with voWiFi (or Backup calling). That'd would keep me reachable on my phone number and allow me to make calls/SMS @home at local rates.
The reason for having my primary SIM disconnected from any mobile network is due to the fact that my primary carrier will charge me for calls/SMS depending on the latest place I got connected to a mobile network. They charge roaming fees even when you're using voWiFi in airplane mode! I have tested this already on a previous trip.
One way would be to select a network manually, or a network that I know it won't connect. However, if I turn on and off airplane mode (to take a flight), the phone will connect to the latest network it connected successfully to.
So my strategy is to connect manually to my home network at home, hoping the phone doesn't magically connect to a network. That's why, I'd like to really make sure that the phone can't connect to any mobile network, just to be sure it won't connect to a network while roaming. But only on the primary SIM. For the other SIM I do want to get connected.
For those wondering, my carrier is T-Mobile NL.
Try messing up the apn details on your sim when abroad. That will prevent connection
The issue is that messing with apn won't prevent the phone to register to a roaming network. That alone will tell my carrier where I am and charge roaming fees accordingly...
@jasalta387 Interesting problem for sure. Can you forward your calls to the secondary (travel) sim and use WhatsApp or Signal to call on wifi? Or leave an auto message giving your foreign number. Any time you connect to the primary network you will be charged, no two ways about it on an Android device. I do believe the iPhone has that capability however. Even if you receive a text on the primary you will trigger a roaming charge. Perhaps the only way to avoid that is turning off the sim entirely while traveling. See if they have an inexpensive international plan?
Indeed, iPhone can easily be disconnected from a cellular network by selecting one that doesn't register. That setting sticks even while cycling through airplane mode or a device reboot. On Pixel this is not the case. Pixel will register again, hence my issue.
I know I could rely on 3rd party apps or services or call forwarding. Problem is that I then need to redirect all people who could reach me to them somehow, while using wifi calling is just fine. Even SMS come and go through it. I just need to not make my carrier aware I'm overseas. Hence my question.
I could use a second device that provides me data and keep my phone all the time in airplane mode. This needs that I carry the two devices all the time with the logistics of charging two phones and all of that. I just want to do it all with my Pixel.
I was thinking one thing: I need to go to the US. Is 3G dead there for good? Because then I could tell my Pixel to use 3G and not allow 2G. That'd keep it away from any accidental network registration upon landing.
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Indeed, iPhone can easily be disconnected from a cellular network by selecting one that doesn't register. That setting sticks even while cycling through airplane mode or a device reboot. On Pixel this is not the case. Pixel will register again, hence my issue.
I know I could rely on 3rd party apps or services or call forwarding. Problem is that I then need to redirect all people who could reach me to them somehow, while using wifi calling is just fine. Even SMS come and go through it. I just need to not make my carrier aware I'm overseas. Hence my question.
I could use a second device that provides me data and keep my phone all the time in airplane mode. This needs that I carry the two devices all the time with the logistics of charging two phones and all of that. I just want to do it all with my Pixel.
I was thinking one thing: I need to go to the US. Is 3G dead there for good? Because then I could tell my Pixel to use 3G and not allow 2G. That'd keep it away from any accidental network registration upon landing.
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I'm intrigued by this and would love to find a solution for you. Oh yeah, 3G is dead across the US from all reports. So I'm trying to parse this scenario, let's see if I get this right. You want to have phone calls come into your primary phone line (Sim 1) but no network connectivity for data, right so far. Also you want SMS to the primary while roaming. The problem is that even if you don't get a phone call or text the connection to the network alone will trigger a billing instance, right so far again?
My daughter has an iPhone and turns off data on the sim but can get phone calls and text. As soon as she does though there is a daily billing charge of $10 because she's outside the US. I also think she can connect to wifi and make calls and text without a carrier network. But I'm not sure about. But that aside, how would you like it to work? Would you like it to connect to the network but not get charged unless you get a call or SMS? Because once a call comes in you're roaming charges will ensue. In airplane mode and strictly wifi there should be no charges but you say they bill you anyway right? Are you sure you didn't get a text or something to trigger the charge? I hope I'm reading this right.
My carrier bills calls and SMS based on the country of the latest connected cellular network. So if I don't connect to any network while I'm abroad my carrier will think I never left the country.
I don't want neither data nor calls/SMS on my primary SIM using cellular while abroad. I can get all calls and SMS via WiFi calling on that primary SIM. To get WiFi calling when I'm abroad I will use the data connection on my secondary SIM or any WiFi network.
Because of the need to get the secondary SIM on, airplane mode doesn't help me. So I need my primary SIM to never to any cellular network while I'm abroad.
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My carrier bills calls and SMS based on the country of the latest connected cellular network. So if I don't connect to any network while I'm abroad my carrier will think I never left the country.
I don't want neither data nor calls/SMS on my primary SIM using cellular while abroad. I can get all calls and SMS via WiFi calling on that primary SIM. To get WiFi calling when I'm abroad I will use the data connection on my secondary SIM or any WiFi network.
Because of the need to get the secondary SIM on, airplane mode doesn't help me. So I need my primary SIM to never to any cellular network while I'm abroad.
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And if you turn off the sim then even WiFi doesn't work on your primary number?
If the SIM is turned off, then you don't get WiFi calling
Try the 4636 menu
Choose the SIM you want from drop down
3 dot menu top right
Disable data connection
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If the SIM is turned off, then you don't get WiFi calling
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Is it possible to adjust the order of airplane mode / network /wifi on-off so as to not allow the sim to connect to the network but still allow wifi on the sim? So for instance, disable the sim, turn on airplane mode, turn on the sim and then enable wifi calling while in airplane mode, turn off airplane mode with data turned off on the sim. I can't believe with no data, calls, sms and only wifi the carrier will charge you roaming. That just doesn't seem right.
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Is it possible to adjust the order of airplane mode / network /wifi on-off so as to not allow the sim to connect to the network but still allow wifi on the sim? So for instance, disable the sim, turn on airplane mode, turn on the sim and then enable wifi calling while in airplane mode, turn off airplane mode with data turned off on the sim. I can't believe with no data, calls, sms and only wifi the carrier will charge you roaming. That just doesn't seem right.
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I don't know if you would follow this suggestion...
But in case you are interested in it, this sounds like something you could pull off automatically with something like MacroDroid or Tasker or some other automation app -- even without being rooted! But I concur, it doesn't make sense that a carrier charge roaming when there would be no data, calls, or sms but only wifi....I'm of the opinion (previously stated somewhere in the thread here) that you might've either misread the bill and/or accidentally "caught" a text or transferred a byte of data and it triggered...
Hey there, I know it sounds harsh that a carrier bills this way. It is verified and discussed in a local forum here (in Dutch) https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/74880578#74880578
Of course, here there are a few things at play:
1- the carrier wants to have a clear way of communication and support. If you are abroad, those are the prices you pay for. That's it. You know it for sure. They don't want to have to explain how to turn on VoWIFI and explain how to make that working for every phone, or explain to you that you made a call thinking you were on VoWIFI while you weren't. Their approach is crystal clear.
2- the carrier makes some extra income this way. While travelling in the US: for every SMS sent they charge 0.51 EUR, calls placed 1.27 EUR, calls received 0.76 EUR and 2.50 EUR per MB of data. For data, they sell some passes that makes the price more reasonable. Note that unlimited plans for domestic data/calls here start at 25 EUR per month.
3- In The Netherlands (and for pretty much every country in EU) people rely quite a lot on 3rd party apps for calls and texting, especially when you are abroad. WhatsApp is the go-to service, even for domestic communication. People don't even bother using their home carrier when travelling outside of EU. They just remove (or disable) that SIM. So the high cost of roaming is usually left to business users for which companies pay or make better deals with the carriers.
One thing I didn't mention is that in NL, pretty much all carriers limit VoWIFI to Dutch IP addresses. To use VoWIFI you'd need to use a router that tunnels all IP traffic via a VPN that has an exit point in The Netherlands. That's how I conducted my test and verified that all activity using VoWIFI was billed using the same fares as if I was using a roaming cellular network.
I want to try this using a secondary SIM from a Dutch provider, which will give me the Dutch IP address. Backup Calling on my primary SIM will make that SIM to connect to VoWIFI. But to get my home fares, I really need to make sure that my primary SIM doesn't connect to any network while I'm travelling (hence my original request).