The main problem with my G2X is the sleep of death, which happens a lot. I get occasional reboots too, but not too often. I tried flashing EaglesBlood 1.05 and then CM7 nightly (7/6), which I'm on now, and I still get sleeps of death and reboots, with perhaps reduced frequency but still bad. Maybe it's the battery, though I don't have overheating/charging/battery drain issues, so I'm not sure what the problem is and if it's hardware or software. Any advice on what I should do would be appreciated - thanks!
I enabled "stay awake" and flashed faux's oc kernel and haven't had an sod in weeks on the stock rom.
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I enabled "stay awake" and flashed faux's oc kernel and haven't had an sod in weeks on the stock rom.
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Wouldn't that drain your battery much faster?
Also, I only seem to get the SOD when the phone is charging overnight, and I have a damn screen off profile set to underclock too, not even the lowest frequencies either so it cant be the freeze that that causes sometimes. Tho when it does and I figure out it is frozen asleep, it is usually hot. Might have to either get new battery or replacement. Tho what seems to heat up the most is the area around the camera, so I don't know if the battery or CPU are to blame.
No. Stay Awake only takes effect when your phone is plugged into a power source. Give it a try. I used to get 1 SOD per day. Since i made those changes I've had none in over a month. I posted the same thing in other SOD related threads but no one seems to care.
Thanks regP - I enabled Stay Awake and it seems to help. I've only had one SoD since. My new theory is that it relates to heat (leaving phone in the sun, running too many apps etc.). I've also noticed I don't get an SoD at work, where I get no reception and it's air-conditioned...might be related.
You also need to flash Faux's OC kernel. Even if you dont OC it gets rid of the faulty 300hz frequency that is believed to be part of the problem. Do that along with stay awake and you should not see any more SOD or reboots.
I've noticed I only ever got SOD when using any different kernel than what's in the original ROM. I have been on CM7 since RC1 and have been updating each nightly since and not touched the kernel and have not had a single SOD since, even when charging overnight. Only when I would try Faux kernel or Trinity kernel I would get SOD's.
I dunno then. completely stock for mean means sod and reboots. gingerbreak leak means sod and reboots. stocks + days kernel and stay awake means no sod or reboots. buddy of mine also cured his problems the same way.
For me stock froyo and gingerbread solves the problem.Initially when there was a call waiting sods used to occur, not in any other situation.I tired latest cm7 nightly with fauxs kernel,MIUI with fauxs kernel (and yes wiped cache , wiped dalvik cache and fix permissions and stay awake) but still sods.Then the stock froyo / gingerbread solves the problem for me.Hope this helps somebody.But my point is can I install the stock kernel with cm7 or MIUI ?.
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For me stock froyo and gingerbread solves the problem.Initially when there was a call waiting sods used to occur, not in any other situation.I tired latest cm7 nightly with fauxs kernel,MIUI with fauxs kernel (and yes wiped cache , wiped dalvik cache and fix permissions and stay awake) but still sods.Then the stock froyo / gingerbread solves the problem for me.Hope this helps somebody.But my point is can I install the stock kernel with cm7 or MIUI ?.
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no, miui and cm7 are both built from AOSP code and thus won't work with the stock kernel.
I guess I got lucky... never encounter the SOD or Reboot. Running cm nightly 163... I only update nightly when I notice major change only from change log.
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no, miui and cm7 are both built from AOSP code and thus won't work with the stock kernel.
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So can you suggest any other kernel I should try to stop the sleep of death ?
I have two G2x - Stock Froyo and kernel, manually restart once per day - no SOD or async reboots. Both G2x did suffer from SOD (with or without heat) and reboots. Manual restarts are not as sexy as 3rd party kernels and roms, but it works.
My wife uses her G2x as an alarm clock - she gets in beds, manually shutsdown the G2x, restarts it, plugs into the charger, and it wakes her up in the morning. EVERY DAY.
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So can you suggest any other kernel I should try to stop the sleep of death ?
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my sod issues stopped when I enables "stay awake". never used anything but the included kernel of whatever Tom I decide to use.
What is the best solution for this? Makes me think i wasted good money on getting 2, for me and my girl. I tried that "stay awake" and same, shuts off out of nowhere. Ive flashed both faux kernel, same results. I dont experience it with CM but for me, stock its just more responsive BESIDES the shutoff. And Weapons rom just has too much addons.. Now people are saying that the SGS2 isnt all that because of benchscores.. And i wanted that phone.. But they make it seem like it isbt a big step forward.
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What is the best solution for this? Makes me think i wasted good money on getting 2, for me and my girl. I tried that "stay awake" and same, shuts off out of nowhere. Ive flashed both faux kernel, same results. I dont experience it with CM but for me, stock its just more responsive BESIDES the shutoff. And Weapons rom just has too much addons.. Now people are saying that the SGS2 isnt all that because of benchscores.. And i wanted that phone.. But they make it seem like it isbt a big step forward.
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Our phone at 1 ghz has surpassed the gs2 and 1.2 ghz
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If missing with software and settings dont work you may just have a bad phone.
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I enabled "stay awake" and flashed faux's oc kernel and haven't had an sod in weeks on the stock rom.
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Thanks for this. I'll be sure to use the "Thanks" button when i have enough posts. I'd been leaving the phone screen on in my pocket (using an alarm clock app) because it would SOD anytime i used the lock button. Working better already.
I keep on getting SODs ONLY when there is a call waiting in the background and this happens only with CM7,MIUI.When I flash the stock gingerbread or even weapons G2x,EaglesBlood ROM the sods that occur during call waiting vanish. Can anyone help me here ? I tried fauxs kernel along with Stay awake and increasing the minimum CPU frequency but failed. Any help will be appreciated.
For the people that SOD occurs on the charger, try another charger (instead of stock LG charger). I tried the Motorola micro USB charger which put out only 550mA (which came with the H730 bluetooth) and the SOD vanished.
Probably over heating with the LG charger which puts out 1000mA
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I know there are countless threads related to G2x Problems but none of the threads are focusing on isolating the reasons of Freezing Issue. I have recently upgraded my phone from Galaxy S Vibrant to G2x and i have to say i love the hardware and performance. Only Issue for me is random freezing.
After using the phone for 2 weeks and trying 3 roms
1. Stock
2. EB 1.04
3. Dark Sinister 1.1
I have come to a conclusion that kernel and rom is not the solution. At least not for me.
So i will try to solve the problem using hardware testing.
From my past 2 weeks experience.
1. Phone Freezes at night during charging
2. Phone Freezes when ever i turn off/on wifi and bluetooth and gps and Data (4g/3g) (Still have to figure out which of them is the cause. Cause i usually turn all off when i need to save battery).
Test Day 1
For Reason 1
I am using SetCpu and have changed Min from 216 to 312Mhz. I am trying this because i think very low cpu usage in standby for a very long period causes the phone to freeze. Its a Hunch i am not sure.
For Reason 2
I will keep wifi, Bluetooth and GPS off.
I will keep 4g/3g Data On all the time.
To My Surprise its been 16 hours no freeze. It includes charging at night. Lets see how long i can go without a freeze. Upon freezing i will make some changes.
Update 31/5/2011 (Test Day 2)
Ok its been more than 40 hours and not a single crash...
I removed the following possibilities as well....
It wont crash upon excessive usage.
Also Normal Heat up does not cause the crash.
As i have been playing Samurai II Vengeance all day long... Until I ended it. Several times charging along playing. I even played it on TV using HDMI. Not a single crash. I used to have around 3 crashes a day on stock rom when i unboxed my new G2x.
I also started using GPS from today. So lets see how it goes. I will update it every 24 hour.
Update 3/6/2011 (Test Day 5)
Ok i am considering Random Freezing On standby as solved because i havent had a single freeze at night after setting CPU Clock at 312 MHz using SetCPU. There are also other comments that back up my solution. I am considering this the solution of one problem.
2nd Issue of freezing while using cell phone apps is because of certain applications that are either buggy or not compatible with tegra Platform. For that i will start another thread with individual application testing for all apps that can cause the system to freeze or crash.
Please Discuss apps System Bloat-ware/User Apps that cause your G2x to Crash or Freeze in the following thread i created:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14399089
Thanks for all the feedback.
Luckily I dont get that issue, buy I think this is a good test :u
Good point. I have not had these issues but i do have trinity kernel and minimum speed is 300
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All you have to do is be careful what apps you install. I've had the phone for over a month and the one time it rebooted or froze was when I used an app the phone didn't agree with.
I am almost certain that people are experiencing reboots and freezing because of the apps they have on their phone. Hopefully the update will solve the problem because it shouldn't be that way.
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In my opinion, the shut down has to do with temperature of the phone. As long as I keep the phone cool by not charging and multitask with other things, then my phone is fine.
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In my opinion, the shut down has to do with temperature of the phone. As long as I keep the phone cool by not charging and multitask with other things, then my phone is fine.
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I used to think the same thing but the problem is my phone gets hot and works fine. I am almost positive it has something to do with an issue in the kernel that's being exposed by certain apps. My Xoom on release had reboots and SOD and it went away with app updates and removals. It also has Tegra 2
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I used to think the same thing but the problem is my phone gets hot and works fine. I am almost positive it has something to do with an issue in the kernel that's being exposed by certain apps. My Xoom on release had reboots and SOD and it went away with app updates and removals. It also has Tegra 2
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Do you or @kangxi remember what Apps gave you issues?
it has to be a driver issue, its virtually the only explanation for why devs have not hammered it out yet or even CM7 team for that matter... it has problems on pure AOSP which leaves drivers or overheating (unlikely)... LG has to come up with the fix because they know their drivers and hardware better than everyone else...
Well the obvious problem I see is that they are all based on the stock rom. Try using one build from AOSP or a CM variety.
I didn't stay stock long but I did have reboot using the leaked Gingerbread (which is what EB is built from). I don't follow it but one is based off the stock 2.2.2 rom and the other is based off the leaked 2.3.3 rom.
I had nothing but problems with the stock roms. Thus your problem I think. Move over to Bionic, CM7, Gigglebread, or something.
I tested my phone and I didn't have a reset in like 5 days (which then my battery died overnight because I forgot to plug it in). I usually crackflash the CM nightlies and haven't had any problems with reboots or any issues requiring a reboot (aside from the flashlight killing audio, but just don't use it).
There are definitely two problems - software and the battery. I used to way more problems until I exchanged the battery for a new one and that solved most of my issues. The issues that remain are definitely software based.
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Good point. I have not had these issues but i do have trinity kernel and minimum speed is 300
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Thanks for this information/ Changing the minimum speed didnt affect the battery life but it has survived two nights without crashing. So i am planning to keep it at 312Mhz min.
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All you have to do is be careful what apps you install. I've had the phone for over a month and the one time it rebooted or froze was when I used an app the phone didn't agree with.
I am almost certain that people are experiencing reboots and freezing because of the apps they have on their phone. Hopefully the update will solve the problem because it shouldn't be that way.
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I Completely Agree with you. Some Applications do cause system crashes. But I have removed all the t-mobile bloatware and i only have few games and GPS apps. All games are from tegra zone. So I am sure they are supported.
For GPS App i am using Copilot and it didnt crash on me once.
I just installed setcpu and set minimum to 312. I'm keeping everything else the same to see if this change has any difference. Will report back.
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Looks like you are gaining progress. Sounds like keeping the processor revved up a little more does the trick.
It would be a simple fix for people to try that have reboot issues. I can't get mine to reboot, so unfortunately I cannot help you. My contribution was to resist from flashing for as long as possible to test how long I could get my "uptime" to. I got up to 127 hours when I passed out without charging it.
I'm running 20 hours now because I forgot to charge it again (seems to be my only problem, lol).
Looks like you may have fixed your rebooting issues. It sounds feasible that the clock speed could be causing it. I never had a reboot so I can't help you out but I can tell you that I have a profile under SETCPU that clocks it at 216 min and 216 max when the display is off and I don't have a problem. I wonder why the low clock speeds would only effect certain devices? Maybe it's certain apps that stay running in the background (since there poorly written) that require higher clock speeds than what the G2X gives at idle?
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Looks like you may have fixed your rebooting issues. It sounds feasible that the clock speed could be causing it. I never had a reboot so I can't help you out but I can tell you that I have a profile under SETCPU that clocks it at 216 min and 216 max when the display is off and I don't have a problem. I wonder why the low clock speeds would only effect certain devices? Maybe it's certain apps that stay running in the background (since there poorly written) that require higher clock speeds than what the G2X gives at idle?
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I've definitely noticed that the G2X wakes up faster and smoother (fade in from screen off) when min is set to 312mhz that's for sure. if this is all it will take to stop the reboots, I'll be super happy because otherwise this phone is just amazing.
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I've definitely noticed that the G2X wakes up faster and smoother (fade in from screen off) when min is set to 312mhz that's for sure. if this is all it will take to stop the reboots, I'll be super happy because otherwise this phone is just amazing.
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Have you noticed any changes in battery usage? I haven't really played around with SETCPU much but can the clock speed be set lower and if it can, have you tried slightly lower settings than 312mhz?
y are u guys using setcpu? and its def cuz the min is too low faux has his at 400 and no problems morfic also has his a little higher then what is it i think 216?? thats too low thats y setcpu isnt supported yet.....pimp my cpu
Someone asked me a question earlier. Only app I had issues with was fring. Soon as I opened it and started playing around with it, phone rebooted.
I uninstalled and it never happened again.
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No clue what you're trying to say but setCPU works fine. At startup for first time I selected Tegra2 and it works great. I have max set to 1000 and min to 312mhz (default was min to 216mhz). I'm running stock ROM but with root. that's all.
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well thats y it works for u, u cant overclock over a thousand mhz so in ur situation ur ok i guess it only applies for people running a custom kernel then setcpu doesnt work, then u would need pimp my cpu
Ive had sleep death since day 2 of ownership....three days ago i flashed existz jvp voodoo gb kernel and have NOT had sleep death. I need people to see if this is a fix or just luck. If your on gingerbread, (NOT miui or cm7) try this kernel and see if it fixes it. I *think* its compatible with all jvo and jvp. Im on jvo and it works
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Appreciate the heads up fyi for us all. I'm running DG's latest right now but will keep this in mind.
I dont think it would work on newest cog due to different kernel source. This is I9000 based and cog is captivate based.
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Yeah, I just meant I'll keep it in mind for when I flash to a Rom that could use that Kernel. Again, thanks for the fyi.
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Ive had sleep death since day 2 of ownership....three days ago i flashed existz jvp voodoo gb kernel and have NOT had sleep death. I need people to see if this is a fix or just luck. If your on gingerbread, (NOT miui or cm7) try this kernel and see if it fixes it. I *think* its compatible with all jvo and jvp. Im on jvo and it works
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I personally tried every kernel/rom combo out there and finally just had to replace my phone. I really hope you found a solution for your phone, but when I'd find a good combination for my phone it would usually start shutting down again eventually. Not trying to shoot you down, just letting you know my experience with the issue.
The only thing that actually put a band-aid on my issue was the app "Captivate Keep Alive". I say "band-aid" because although the phone was no longer shutting off on it's own, the battery would drain real fast, so it wasn't really the ideal solution. If you're still under warranty, I recommend just getting it replaced.
Thread with same issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731560
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I personally tried every kernel/rom combo out there and finally just had to replace my phone. I really hope you found a solution for your phone, but when I'd find a good combination for my phone it would usually start shutting down again eventually. Not trying to shoot you down, just letting you know my experience with the issue.
The only thing that actually put a band-aid on my issue was the app "Captivate Keep Alive". I say "band-aid" because although the phone was no longer shutting off on it's own, the battery would drain real fast, so it wasn't really the ideal solution. If you're still under warranty, I recommend just getting it replaced.
Thread with same issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731560
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I know the feelin...i was using softlocker...same as keep alive but without the atrocious status bar icon....if it shuts down on this kernel ill do the warranty....its been 4 dayz with no shutdowns and 8 + hours of phone idle nightly....lookin good so far
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One day without random shutdown, may be it really works.
I've tried many Roms and kernels with no luck, thanks
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One day without random shutdown, may be it really works.
I've tried many Roms and kernels with no luck, thanks
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Glad its working. Keep me posted...day 5 no shutdown
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The reason you may not be having any sleep death is if the governor is set not to go into Deep Sleep. The Talon kernel supports OC/UV and that may be the culprit. However, my experience with voltage regulation kernels has not been nearly as stable as with ones that don't. I had to just replace my phone when I had the sleep death issues...good luck though.
Is sleep death a reboot. Ive been on oc/uv talon kernal and it gets reboots pretty often it drives me nuts. Always happens when i listen to music too
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The reason you may not be having any sleep death is if the governor is set not to go into Deep Sleep. The Talon kernel supports OC/UV and that may be the culprit. However, my experience with voltage regulation kernels has not been nearly as stable as with ones that don't. I had to just replace my phone when I had the sleep death issues...good luck though.
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I'm sure that is going to Deep Sleep, I've Cpu Spy installed in my phone.
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I'm sure that is going to Deep Sleep, I've Cpu Spy installed in my phone.
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Same here
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Anyone have anymore feedback?
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Day 7 NO sleep death
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1 week without shutdown. O'be tried the new release of talon, and works too.
Will these ever go away on my nexus s? I have gotten them in everything from stock 2.3, cyanogenmod 7, stock ICS, oxygen, and every single ICS rom I have used. I understand some software bugs take a while to find but I have had this bug for over a year, will it every get a fixed? (Or is this not a software bug but an actual issue with my phone?)
Could be cause from UV settings if you touched them
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Could be cause from UV settings if you touched them
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Nope. I usually run 200 mhz minimum and 1200 max for my cpu. On stock I also ran stock volts.
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Nope. I usually run 200 mhz minimum and 1200 max for my cpu. On stock I also ran stock volts.
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Well, you're running an overclock... Try running without.
CM7 has a sleep of death/reboot bug, so try another ROM not based on CM7 too.
Highly recommend Oxygen 2.3.2 coupled with Franco 08.12.2011 GB kernel.
If you're interested in ICS ROM, give AOKP ROM and Matr1x kernel a try. It's rock stable for me. I just rebooted to flash the new build, but before that it lasted for couple weeks for me without rebooting. Link to AOKP ROM is in my sig.
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Nope. I usually run 200 mhz minimum and 1200 max for my cpu. On stock I also ran stock volts.
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There's your problem. Perhaps increase the voltage? Your phone may not be able to handle the frequency without extra voltage.
There should be no random reboots if you never touched anything kernel related. If so, then bear the consequences.
I've been using CM9 v2.2 for about 3 months now haven't overclocked or undervolted and haven't had any "random" reboots ever.
I'd highly recommend the Androxide ROM along with Air Kernel. I've been running this combo overclocked to 1200 without any voltage setting changes for a decent amount of time.
random reboot frequency - about once a week ..
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There's your problem. Perhaps increase the voltage? Your phone may not be able to handle the frequency without extra voltage.
There should be no random reboots if you never touched anything kernel related. If so, then bear the consequences.
I've been using CM9 v2.2 for about 3 months now haven't overclocked or undervolted and haven't had any "random" reboots ever.
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I second that. Usually OCing requires raising voltages across the board. I use +25mV (arm and int). If you're suing a matr1x kernel that's even more reason to raise voltages, because afaik that kernel is undervolted by default.
Best of luck.
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I second that. Usually OCing requires raising voltages across the board. I use +25mV (arm and int). If you're suing a matr1x kernel that's even more reason to raise voltages, because afaik that kernel is undervolted by default.
Best of luck.
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Thirding it.
If you are having problems then roll everything back to stock... its not good enough to say you have run every rom , yet fail to mention you OC. What other tweaks do you run? Deep Idle?
I'd bet if you flash CM9 with no tweaking it, it will be fine.
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I'd bet if you flash CM9 with no tweaking it, it will be fine.
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Or just about *ANY* rom for that matter. First ensure you can run it stable without OC, UV, didle, mods, themes etc then, by all means, go ahead and tweak to your hearts's content.
Overclocking to 1200mhz CPU only does NOT require extra voltage across the board, but possibly a boost at the 1200mhz voltage. Each frequency runs at a different, changeable voltage which has nothing to do with all the others. LiveOC, however, raises the frequency of each step and as such generally requires a boost in voltage across the board or thereabouts.
As for the problem the OP is having, who knows. Could you describe any specific things you've done, though? Full wipes (detail what you wipe), titanium backup restores, etc.
First thing i would be trying now is to do a full wipe (factory/data reset, format /boot, format /system), flashing either stock 2.3.6 or 4.0.3 and installing only necesseties and try for a week or so. If there are still reboot problems, describe them and hopefully i can give you some useful things to try. If you had this problem before the 1 year mark you could have probably gotten the phone fixed/replaced under warranty, though. If it is now over a year i'm afraid that's too late though.
Just for info:
ALWAYS on stock, unrooted, right now 4.0.3 OTA. Since 4.0.3 random reboots, w/o any culprit cause I can find..
So, I guess, has nothing to do with ROM, voltage, solar storms, etc..
Well this is all bullcrap. . . i installed CM7.0.1 and CM7 RC1 and the latest ICS from CM team and her phone either randomly reboots or switches off totally while charging in the night.
Its got bugger all to do with the kernel because i used the standard kernel with all the CM7 & CM9 roms and the same things happen over and over.
Also the OC'ing idea is BS, i don't OC my nexus S or hers and even mine suffers random reboots.
there has to be some code somewhere thats not behaving a sit should and google never sorted it and CM team never found it, or the hardware is just ****ty in this hand set.
Have you tried other ROM besides CM7? I remember when I flashed CM7 for the first time. My phone never liked it, it was all bugs for me. I even noticed that OC'ing would generate problems on any ROM.
I just ran away from CM7 and OC'ing.
Try Oxygen ROM (or stock as they stated before) with all set up to defaults and test for a while.
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Well this is all bullcrap. . . i installed CM7.0.1 and CM7 RC1 and the latest ICS from CM team and her phone either randomly reboots or switches off totally while charging in the night.
Its got bugger all to do with the kernel because i used the standard kernel with all the CM7 & CM9 roms and the same things happen over and over.
Also the OC'ing idea is BS, i don't OC my nexus S or hers and even mine suffers random reboots.
there has to be some code somewhere thats not behaving a sit should and google never sorted it and CM team never found it, or the hardware is just ****ty in this hand set.
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I admit I had reboots with cm7' but with latest cm9 nightly I have none. Stock kernel stock oc and stock voltage with deep idle off
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ALWAYS on stock, unrooted, right now 4.0.3 OTA. Since 4.0.3 random reboots, w/o any culprit cause I can find..
So, I guess, has nothing to do with ROM, voltage, solar storms, etc..
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The update was pulled for many reasons. Try stock GB or Oxygen ROM and enjoy life without freeze, sleep of death or reboot...
Hi!
I have spent a long time testing ROMs, Kernels and modem combination and first of all must say THANK YOU!, all of you are doing a great job with kernels and roms and modems, it really amazing see your old phone working better than brand new.
My investigation with different combination make me go into 1 conclusion, finding the most compatible modem to your phone could prevent most or all SoD problems. I make different test and find that my phone totally lost signal and can't go back until restart the phone (also going to flight mode don't work), the most compatible modem I test the less this bug happen and less SoD.
Still don't know when start this signal bug but is the first problem I could see. Usually happens early in the morning.
PS: I've confirm this with others devices with SoD as well and people are having better results changing modems.
PS2: All cappy test was done on a 2010 build 1006 phone with SoD over 80% battery charge on stock rom (build over 1006 should not experience this problems) stock as possible.
PS3: wake lock app totally prevent SoD, but at the cost of some battery drain when not using the phone, specially at night ( this can be solved just leave the charger plug in )
Hope this could help someone
Best regards to everyone!
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Hi!
I have spent a long time testing ROMs, Kernels and modem combination and first of all must say THANK YOU!, all of you are doing a great job with kernels and roms, it really amazing see your old phone working better than brand new.
My investigation with different combination make me go into 1 conclusion, finding the most compatible modem to your phone could prevent most or all SoD problems. I make different test and find that when phone lost signal or where without sim card it take just some minutes (even less sometimes) to SoD or just restart, the most compatible modem I test the less SoD.
This probably mean that many of our cappy can't stay on idle while no signal (probably enter on a state similar to deep idle).
People, if you can, please test your cappy with ICS without sim card, put on idle and look if go SoD in less than 10 min.
PS: I've confirm this with others devices with SoD as well and people are having better results changing modems.
PS2: All cappy test was done on a 2010 phone with SoD over 80% battery charge on stock rom
PS3: wake lock app totally prevent SoD, but at the cost of some battery drain when not using the phone, specially at night ( this can be solved just leave the charger plug in )
Hope this could help someone
Best regards to everyone!
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Deep Idle doesn't work well with Captivate bootloaders and causes SoD. Use Devil with devil idle, or no idles at all because the phone will still sleep. Deep idle only benefits music playing and barely. It's not the kernels, or modems, it is the idle itself. Also, what is the point of running tests without the sim card in, modem tests should be done with the sim card in.
tl;dr: Deep idle never worked well, and should be combined with i9000 boot loaders if you want it to work well.
I don't use deep idle and use i9000 bootloader
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I always turn on flight mode all night, and never had a SOD
Slim ISC 4.0 + devil 0.71 + devil idle (no Deep Idle)
xtmp said:
I always turn on flight mode all night, and never had a SOD
Slim ISC 4.0 + devil 0.71 + devil idle (no Deep Idle)
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and without flight mode did SoD?
rophiroth said:
and without flight mode did SoD?
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no, all fine. Can try without sim, but I think result will be the same.
It's not the modems, SoD depends on the build of the phone, the kernel, the bootloaders etc;
nygfan760 said:
It's not the modems, SoD depends on the build of the phone, the kernel, the bootloaders etc;
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Not what my experience tells with my phone, different builds and bootloader dont really make any significant change
left my phone more than 1 hour without sim card. No SOD happens.
Some one of you have a 1006 i897 build phone too, because I don't have sod in moderns i897?
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Some one of you have a 1006 i897 build phone too, because I don't have sod in moderns i897?
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No, like I am telling you, the modem doesn't cause SoD. By testing without a sim, you are proving that point to be even more true.
But you tell me you don't have an 1006 he build phone. So as I say this can be a bug with this phone that make random reboot and sod.
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But you tell me you don't have an 1006 he build phone. So as I say this can be a bug with this phone that make random reboot and sod.
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That would be a hardware problem.
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That would be a hardware problem.
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Yea and not at same time, build 1006 as know for been bugged from factory but with new builds of kernels, modem,roms and also many tips I have take over most of the problems that make my phone shutdown. Today my phone was all day on idle and just check now to see if still alive and yes!
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I've install an app called "singal reset" and activate deep idle, mincpu to 100. Actually the phone never goes to didle state(not top on or off huehue) but in all day long my phone dont SoD. Will see what happen this night
I recently got the Blaze4G and it is stock, but in the past I had the Samsung Fascinate and I would flash CM and AOKP onto it and the camera flash and torch apps didn't work with the camera LED. I read on the CM 10 development thread that there is also an issue with the camera flash. Are there any non-stock roms that do not have issues with the flash/torch working well?
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I recently got the Blaze4G and it is stock, but in the past I had the Samsung Fascinate and I would flash CM and AOKP onto it and the camera flash and torch apps didn't work with the camera LED. I read on the CM 10 development thread that there is also an issue with the camera flash. Are there any non-stock roms that do not have issues with the flash/torch working well?
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You could just install an app from the play store that would give you that functionality. Power toggles is one that comes to mind that works on stock that has a working torch toggle.
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You could just install an app from the play store that would give you that functionality. Power toggles is one that comes to mind that works on stock that has a working torch toggle.
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No, I mean with the aftermarket ROMs, do any others besides CM 10 have issues with the flash or toggle? I have no problems with the stock Blaze 4G torch
I'm on the latest CM10 Nightly and the included Torch works fine.
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I'm on the latest CM10 Nightly and the included Torch works fine.
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Thanks, I'm going to try the stable CM10
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Thanks, I'm going to try the stable CM10
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No. Don't use the 'stable' build. It's not that stable. Use the latest nightly 3/18.
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No. Don't use the 'stable' build. It's not that stable. Use the latest nightly 3/18.
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dammit.. and I just flashed and loaded my apps and settings..
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No. Don't use the 'stable' build. It's not that stable. Use the latest nightly 3/18.
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Why do you say that the stable build isn't that stable? I've been running it and it works fine for me. It's randomly rebooted on me a total of 2 or 3 times though, and I feel like the battery should last longer so I'm keen to hear what you have to say.
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It's randomly rebooted on me a total of 2 or 3 times though, and I feel like the battery should last longer so I'm keen to hear what you have to say.
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That's why I say it's unstable. Random reboots are no longer present and battery life is improved among other things.
Random reboots = unstable lol
I don't fully recall but I believe the SoD was present on the 'stable build' too.
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That's why I say it's unstable. Random reboots are no longer present and battery life is improved among other things.
Random reboots = unstable lol
I don't fully recall but I believe the SoD was present on the 'stable build' too.
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2 random reboots in a few months isn't so bad in my opinion. It's not completely rock solid stable but at least I've never gotten a screen of death. I'm thinking of trying out the nightly but while better battery life does sound very enticing, the screen of death seems like a show stopping problem. It seems safer to just flash the lightning zap kernel to see if it'll improve my battery life. When you say you get the screen of death in the nightly, how often do you get it? How often do others say they get it?
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2 random reboots in a few months isn't so bad in my opinion. It's not completely rock solid stable but at least I've never gotten a screen of death. I'm thinking of trying out the nightly but while better battery life does sound very enticing, the screen of death seems like a show stopping problem. It seems safer to just flash the lightning zap kernel to see if it'll improve my battery life. When you say you get the screen of death in the nightly, how often do you get it? How often do others say they get it?
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I don't get the SoD in the nightly. Didn't say I did. But I think the issue surrounding the SoD is present in the 'stable' build.
I believe the SoD had something to do with the BLN but I'm not 100% on that. I know a lot went into getting rid of the SoD and I don't think those efforts started until after the 'stable' build. I also had issues (what seems like) back in the day where when I would receive a call the phone would freeze and hot boot (reboot to cyanogenmod bootanimation). I also recall having major battery drain compared to previous nightlies with the stable build and posted my results somewhere - maybe in the CM10 thread. Something like an additional 20-40% faster drain even in standby compared to the nightly just before the stable release - using the same kernel too. Something in the stable release seemed to be the cause, and the very next nightly the issue was addressed (which I think I pointed out in the CM thread also).
I also believe that the 'default' kernel with CM10 has added the interactive governor since the stable build. I don't remember having that before either.
You can flash the LZ kernel (it's awesome) but I think there is or may be an issue with the davlik. I do believe Thomas is already on this - read the LZ thread for more info. I was getting reboots quite often using it with both PA and CM10 - sometimes immediately after boot. That doesn't mean you won't run it just fine 100%, just something to be aware of. Make sure you nandroid before flashing in case you run into any instability.
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I don't get the SoD in the nightly. Didn't say I did. But I think the issue surrounding the SoD is present in the 'stable' build.
I believe the SoD had something to do with the BLN but I'm not 100% on that. I know a lot went into getting rid of the SoD and I don't think those efforts started until after the 'stable' build. I also had issues (what seems like) back in the day where when I would receive a call the phone would freeze and hot boot (reboot to cyanogenmod bootanimation). I also recall having major battery drain compared to previous nightlies with the stable build and posted my results somewhere - maybe in the CM10 thread. Something like an additional 20-40% faster drain even in standby compared to the nightly just before the stable release - using the same kernel too. Something in the stable release seemed to be the cause, and the very next nightly the issue was addressed (which I think I pointed out in the CM thread also).
I also believe that the 'default' kernel with CM10 has added the interactive governor since the stable build. I don't remember having that before either.
You can flash the LZ kernel (it's awesome) but I think there is or may be an issue with the davlik. I do believe Thomas is already on this - read the LZ thread for more info. I was getting reboots quite often using it with both PA and CM10 - sometimes immediately after boot. That doesn't mean you won't run it just fine 100%, just something to be aware of. Make sure you nandroid before flashing in case you run into any instability.
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Ah, the way you worded it I thought you got the SoD. I definitely notice the battery draining quite fast, even on standby just as you said. Sometimes I fully charge it before I go to sleep and unplug it; I wake up and the battery is at 90% (Estimate off the top of my head). Other times I fully charge it to 100% and unplug it, only to have it immediately drop down to 99% and within minutes go down even lower. I'm using the default kernel in the CM10 stable build and I have the Interactive governor (It's default), and my scheduler is CFQ (Also default).
You've certainly convinced me to try out the nightly, I'll have to flash it soon. I'd also like to try out the LZ kernel as it does seem really cool. In what areas did you see an improvement and was it a big difference?
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Ah, the way you worded it I thought you got the SoD. I definitely notice the battery draining quite fast, even on standby just as you said. Sometimes I fully charge it before I go to sleep and unplug it; I wake up and the battery is at 90% (Estimate off the top of my head). Other times I fully charge it to 100% and unplug it, only to have it immediately drop down to 99% and within minutes go down even lower. I'm using the default kernel in the CM10 stable build and I have the Interactive governor (It's default), and my scheduler is CFQ (Also default).
You've certainly convinced me to try out the nightly, I'll have to flash it soon. I'd also like to try out the LZ kernel as it does seem really cool. In what areas did you see an improvement and was it a big difference?
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Racings unofficial AOKP + lightning zap = WIN
Snappy snappy, stable(no reboots period), best battery life for any jelly bean ROM I've tried, and the built-in toggle torch works perfectly.
just my 2 cents
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