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Any way to root w/o ODIN + wipe?

Before you flame, I did read this and was still a bit confused.
Basically, I've been using my Verizon-ROM'd Charge (with the latest updates) for about a month now. I'm ready to ODIN over to a new ROM (probably the 8/3/11 HumbleComb ROM), but without a one-click root, I'm not sure how I can install/run/backup all my data with TB if I don't have root access.
So right now, I'm looking for any way to root my Charge, backup all the apps/data before I flash a ROM that seems (from my reading) to do a full wipe.
The other problem I'm having is in regards to my wife's Charge. We both came from Vibrants and she had quite a few important apps (with critical data) she'd like to bring over. However, she could care less about going to a rooted/aftermarket ROM. She just wants her old apps to work.
I've searched fellas... I'd really like some help on this. Please throw me a line... even if it's a link to a thread I missed.
Thanks in advance.

Wrong section but just odin this kernel, it doesnt wipe any of your data. Then you can use Titanium Backup or whatever you use to backup your apps. Dont restore system apps unless you want force closes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092114

Nevermind...

mbh87 said:
Wrong section but just odin this kernel, it doesnt wipe any of your data. Then you can use Titanium Backup or whatever you use to backup your apps. Dont restore system apps unless you want force closes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092114
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Awesome! I'll give it a try and see how it goes. I appreciate the helps.
**EDIT**
That worked perfectly. Thanks! Backing up everything with TB now in preparation for flash a real ROM.
Mods, please move as necessary.

most roms nowadays will root you when flashed/odined so yeah just back everything up and load up the rom of your choice
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge 4G

Things were going so well, I decided to flash HumbleComb 1.5 using Odin. Now I'm stuck at the Samsung logo. I'm guessing it was because the tool originally recommended here enabled the lagfix. Funny thing is, if I reflash HC 1.5 from Odin, the first thing I get is the recovery screen. Inside the voodoo settings there, it says Voodoo is disabled and not scheduled to be enabled on the next boot (this was after the 2nd flash, though). Voodoo had to be enabled. I got a 1400+ quadrant score...
Gotta read the "fix your phone" thread now. Was too tired to fart around with it last night. At least I got everything backed up.

Flapjack said:
Things were going so well, I decided to flash HumbleComb 1.5 using Odin. Now I'm stuck at the Samsung logo. I'm guessing it was because the tool originally recommended here enabled the lagfix. Funny thing is, if I reflash HC 1.5 from Odin, the first thing I get is the recovery screen. Inside the voodoo settings there, it says Voodoo is disabled and not scheduled to be enabled on the next boot (this was after the 2nd flash, though). Voodoo had to be enabled. I got a 1400+ quadrant score...
Gotta read the "fix your phone" thread now. Was too tired to fart around with it last night. At least I got everything backed up.
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Wipe everything in recovery (data/cache/dalvik) and then plug into Odin and flash. That works every time for me when it sticks on the Samsung logo...

[Q] Stuck at Red (Stink) Eye

Need anybody's help!
I rooted back in June, so here's what I had (from memory),
PBJ kernel, voodoo lagfix, and CWM recovery (might be old).
Anyway, I edited the secgps.conf in another post about fixing GPS. I made
a back-up of the original. Anyway, in the other post, he states to reboot,
then it will take awhile but after the first GPS lock, it should work faster.
Well...I rebooted, and it was still way-off...even worse than before. After 10 minutes, I rebooted...then got stuck with the Red Eye at boot.
I took out the battery, plugged back in, etc. Still stuck at Red Eye...even plugged into outlet...letting it go...still that way for over an hour.
Any method of getting in, and just replacing the secgps.conf with the original, then try rebooting? What are my options? Don't want to wipe out everything, especially if I have the voodoo lagfix?
Help! Thanks in advance,
Sara :$

Sara100 said:
Need anybody's help!
I rooted back in June, so here's what I had (from memory),
PBJ kernel, voodoo lagfix, and CWM recovery (might be old).
Anyway, I edited the secgps.conf in another post about fixing GPS. I made
a back-up of the original. Anyway, in the other post, he states to reboot,
then it will take awhile but after the first GPS lock, it should work faster.
Well...I rebooted, and it was still way-off...even worse than before. After 10 minutes, I rebooted...then got stuck with the Red Eye at boot.
I took out the battery, plugged back in, etc. Still stuck at Red Eye...even plugged into outlet...letting it go...still that way for over an hour.
Any method of getting in, and just replacing the secgps.conf with the original, then try rebooting? What are my options? Don't want to wipe out everything, especially if I have the voodoo lagfix?
Help! Thanks in advance,
Sara :$
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well if it won't boot you can't replace the original file, unless you know about ADB and how to use it... you may need to go back to stock with the PIT file and start over, its not a huge deal and doesn't take long plus the roms out now are way better than the older ones

Dear anoninja118,
I actually let the phone sit for an 3 hours while I worked...it finally got through boot.
However, I thought I had lost root... most of my apps were gone...bloatware came back that I had frozen.... getting force closures on all the apps.
I went into ADB and I still have root (although Superuser app shows no listing ).
I put back that original GPS file rebooted...but nothing..things remained the same as previously stated.
All my files are all intact, have CWM, but it states no voodoo lagfix. Any ideas on how to repair? Can I just switch to another ROM? Keep my files/data?
Thanks,
Sara

Sara100 said:
Dear anoninja118,
I actually let the phone sit for an 3 hours while I worked...it finally got through boot.
However, I thought I had lost root... most of my apps were gone...bloatware came back that I had frozen.... getting force closures on all the apps.
I went into ADB and I still have root (although Superuser app shows no listing ).
I put back that original GPS file rebooted...but nothing..things remained the same as previously stated.
All my files are all intact, have CWM, but it states no voodoo lagfix. Any ideas on how to repair? Can I just switch to another ROM? Keep my files/data?
Thanks,
Sara
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well what rom were you running? you could just reflash it (shouldn't need to wipe) to return it to 'normal'... also if root was lost I can upload superuser.apk, just flash it and you'll get root back
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App

Yikes...being new to all this stuff, and I did it a few months back, I don't believe I flashed a ROM. I think I did jt1134's kernel (Root / Voodoo Lagfix / CWM Recovery), then I might flashed the PBJ kernel that was available at that time.
Ironically, I've been having many issues with bluetooth and GPS problems recently, and heard that there was a new Gingerbread update. I wanted to wait for the official release, then have one of the programmer gods make a new kernel/ROM. I am not ready to jump to GB yet, and I want to keep all my files. I backed-up many of my apps with Titanium back-up, and saved via DropBox.
Anyway, I thought about reflashing...but if I do the jt1134 scenario...it's via Odin..won't that erase everything. I guess all my stuff is on the SD card, right?
Thanks so much for helping out a damsel in distress,
Sara

Sara100 said:
Yikes...being new to all this stuff, and I did it a few months back, I don't believe I flashed a ROM. I think I did jt1134's kernel (Root / Voodoo Lagfix / CWM Recovery), then I might flashed the PBJ kernel that was available at that time.
Ironically, I've been having many issues with bluetooth and GPS problems recently, and heard that there was a new Gingerbread update. I wanted to wait for the official release, then have one of the programmer gods make a new kernel/ROM. I am not ready to jump to GB yet, and I want to keep all my files. I backed-up many of my apps with Titanium back-up, and saved via DropBox.
Anyway, I thought about reflashing...but if I do the jt1134 scenario...it's via Odin..won't that erase everything. I guess all my stuff is on the SD card, right?
Thanks so much for helping out a damsel in distress,
Sara
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yes any Odin flash will wipe all data thats not backed up, if you use titanium backup for apps, export a contact list to your sd card that you can import later and you should be fine you'll just lose settings and things like login info for apps which you will have to set up again after... and yes you could do jt1134's method again or you could just flash debloated rooted stock EE4 in CWM (which will be exactly like what you're using) as well as one of the newer kernels, if you want to go the Odin route I would suggest Gummy FE 2.0 or Humble 1.6 as they are both very stable and tweakable/themeable plus come with all the goodies like root, CWM, custom rom and kernel (however if you wiped data and both caches in CWM you could also just flash the rom .zips right over what you're using instead)

Thanks for helping again. So, if I understand correctly, I could use CWM to get debloated rooted stock EE4, and I would still have my data?
Sorry I got confused with "(however if you wiped data and both caches in CWM you could also just flash the rom .zips right over what you're using instead)". So instead of Odin, I could just use CWM with wipe data and cache to flash a new ROM, correct?
That's what confuses me...when to use CWM and when to use Odin? Oh, should I update to the newest CWM (I hope that's easy) first?
Thanks so much...hate to bug you on the weekend, but I need to get this fixed before Monday for work!
Sara

Sara100 said:
Thanks for helping again. So, if I understand correctly, I could use CWM to get debloated rooted stock EE4, and I would still have my data?
Sorry I got confused with "(however if you wiped data and both caches in CWM you could also just flash the rom .zips right over what you're using instead)". So instead of Odin, I could just use CWM with wipe data and cache to flash a new ROM, correct?
That's what confuses me...when to use CWM and when to use Odin? Oh, should I update to the newest CWM (I hope that's easy) first?
Thanks so much...hate to bug you on the weekend, but I need to get this fixed before Monday for work!
Sara
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you can use either one CWM or Odin, unfortunately you will lose data no matter what... I only said that you could use CWM instead since you already have it and it might be a little easier that way, but both ways will work

okay..thanks for helping. No matter what I choose...I'll cross my fingers!

Sara100 said:
Thanks for helping again. So, if I understand correctly, I could use CWM to get debloated rooted stock EE4, and I would still have my data?
Sorry I got confused with "(however if you wiped data and both caches in CWM you could also just flash the rom .zips right over what you're using instead)". So instead of Odin, I could just use CWM with wipe data and cache to flash a new ROM, correct?
That's what confuses me...when to use CWM and when to use Odin? Oh, should I update to the newest CWM (I hope that's easy) first?
Thanks so much...hate to bug you on the weekend, but I need to get this fixed before Monday for work!
Sara
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You shouldn't have rooted your phone. Sounds like you don't know what you are doing at all. So I would google "how to flash with odin", then go back to totally stock.

Masterpiece Finishes said:
You shouldn't have rooted your phone. Sounds like you don't know what you are doing at all. So I would google "how to flash with odin", then go back to totally stock.
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you gotta learn sometime, its trial and error... I was in the same position asking the same questions when I got my first android phone over a year ago
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Thanks on Gummy Charge FE 2.0. GPS works too!
Got the kinks out... my data was saved.
OG was a lot easier to root back in the day...
Thanks for your help and kind words!
Sara

Sara100 said:
Thanks on Gummy Charge FE 2.0. GPS works too!
Got the kinks out... my data was saved.
OG was a lot easier to root back in the day...
Thanks for your help and kind words!
Sara
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glad to hear you got it working, you'll like it
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge

[Q] Anyone Seen This Before?

Had to swap out my Charge this weekend. I am running DroidXcon's EE4 rooted Odin. All is working well EXCEPT !!
I go into settings/sound and if I try to change either my calls or notifictaion ringtones it craps with the error process com.android.settings has stopped / force close.... so I can't change my ringtones.
Any suggestions/help greatly appreciated

Try flashing another rom. Don't forget to wipe first.
It could be a settings.apk issue, but hard to tell.
Sent from my VooDoo Gummy Charge

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Keighles said:
Try flashing another rom. Don't forget to wipe first.
It could be a settings.apk issue, but hard to tell.
Sent from my VooDoo Gummy Charge
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caught me off guard cuz it's the same rom I used before on other phone. when you say don't forget to wipe first, are you saying to flash back to stock rom first?
What rom would you suggest I flash to? only concern is basic root for Open Garden wifi tether ...

As is usually the case 90% of the time, it was operator error. Since I've used it before and knew it was a good ROM, I decided to work backwards since the flash. I defrosted all that I froze with TiBu and it started working again.
Oddly enough, I re-froze all the same stuff and it still works. When I froze one of the music/sound related appz, it must've thrown a glitch into the works.
Bottom line all is good. Figured I'd toss this up in case anyone experiences similar issues.

Good..sounds like you got it.
Gummy roms are good. I'm running Gummy Charged GBE 2.0RC1.5 right now and I like it alot.
Haven't had any problems with the Humble roms either.
Sent from my VooDoo Gummy Charge

[Q] Can you help me get back to stock Gingerbread?

Ok, first off, I'm kind of a newbie and probably did something stupid. Sorry. Let me explain.
I need to send my G2x back to TMobile for warranty replacement. I was running CM7 with ClockworkMod Recovery. I flashed back to stock recovery, and had stock Gingerbread load. Worked great. Only one problem: Superuser was still listed as a program. I don't want to send it in to TMobile with evidence that I rooted it. The only way to delete it seems to be to root phone again.
I tried rooting again, even reinstalled CM7, but couldn't find a way to delete superuser.apk. Then I started doing stupid things. In ClockworkMod I deleted just about everything, including the /system mount. Well, now, I can't seem to reload stock Gingerbread anymore, since I think I deleted the packages.
So, this is where I stand: I have ClockworkMod installed, I can load CM7 or other roms just fine. But when I flash back to stock recovery, I'm screwed. The phone can't find the proper stock Gingerbread files. What I need to be able to do is get it back to completely stock condition, so TMobile is none the wiser.
Please tell me there is a way to fix this! Thanks!

Nevermind
Nevermind, I figured it out. I did a restore of an old backup, then was able to find unroot .zip on XDA. Sorry for previous post -- I was freaking out and thought I had permanently messed up phone! Next time I'll read more before posting.

I give up! Ready to Root!!

On my 4th G2x. Same problems as the others. Reboots on its on, sleep of death. In fact this morning I was talking on phone and it shut down. I had to remove battery and reboot.
I called Customer Service that has always been super nice. This time they said, oh, since this is your 4th and this one just in 6 days I can't help you I have to send you to Tech. The Tech guy basically said "known software problem, sending replacement won't do any good. Can't give you different phone. Maybe it is your SD card and apps you have loaded. He actually told me Facebook app could cause it to shut down. Said to reset to factory, remove SD card and use it for 3 days with no apps. After 3 days if all is well then start adding apps. I asked what if it has problems during the 3 days? He said, 'there is nothing we can do. I will report this to LG and they will send out an update. I don't know when but they will update the software".
WTH?! So I am done. I will do the root. Now i just need to read all these great threads to figure out how and which version! Wish i could just pay one of you to do it for me!
Thanks for letting me rant.

I've been running stock since August with no issues but I really wanted the LG Camera app so I installed CWR and flashed the WeaponX rom with no issues. Everything works and it's even smoother then stock Gingerbread. Just follow the directions to the T and the process should take less than fifteen minutes if you have all your files ready to go.
Enjoy!

seangprice said:
I've been running stock since August with no issues but I really wanted the LG Camera app so I installed CWR and flashed the WeaponX rom with no issues. Everything works and it's even smoother then stock Gingerbread. Just follow the directions to the T and the process should take less than fifteen minutes if you have all your files ready to go.
Enjoy!
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Thanks! Which directions did you follow? There are a number of threads here.

The directions are a bit confusing as they reference other threads and then have comments stating this step is now obsolete. etc. Seems like I first need to get the ROM Manger?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager.license&feature=search_result
Correct?

i followed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715 and was fine. this was my first root as well.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
I used this method to NvFlash and install Clockwork recovery which is the basic software you need in order to flash ROMs. You do not need ROM Manager. Once you've done the NvFlash and installed CWR you can copy your ROMs to the SD card or phone storage and flash through Clockwork Recovery. Make sure you backup your stock install through CWR prior to flashing anything new so you can return the phone to a usable state.
As always follow the directions verbatim, some steps take time as well. Also make sure your battery is 100% charged... If it dies during any portion of the process bad things can happen.

I had all of those issues until I flashed cm7... then the issues became very minimal... I once had 8 reboots in a day on stock rom, during phone calls and everything... You are definitely taking a step in the right direction
P.S. my wife has completely stock phone on stock rom and has Facebook app with no issues, she just got lucky I guess
To OP: do you have 2.2 or 2.3 installed as your stock rom... read carefully there are different instructions for both

Never use ROM Manager. Even if it worked perfectly on our phone I still would never recommend it. I've seen it cause more harm than good.
Anyways, you don't even technically need root to flash a ROM.
Just NVFlash CWM. After that you can upgrade to the latest CWM via ADB. Then flash your desired ROM. I suggest CM7.

yeah, you know ROM manager... now forget it. Use NVflash and clockwork

I got myself in trouble!
I followed instructions and all went well. I installed the GB, no problems. No I was brave so I thought I would try the Cyanogen mod. It too installed fine. I don't like it. Now i can't get rid of it! I tried reinstalling the GB and the cyanogen won't go away! i tried restore to factory, but it won't go away!!
Please lend me your advice on how to remove Cyanogen mod!

donbeth said:
I got myself in trouble!
I followed instructions and all went well. I installed the GB, no problems. No I was brave so I thought I would try the Cyanogen mod. It too installed fine. I don't like it. Now i can't get rid of it! I tried reinstalling the GB and the cyanogen won't go away! i tried restore to factory, but it won't go away!!
Please lend me your advice on how to remove Cyanogen mod!
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Then just wipe and flash a new ROM.
Make sure you wipe data, cache, dalvik then format system before flashing new ROM.

Clearly I am a dunce.
I uninstalled the driver on pc. Did a reinstall. Flashed ROM again. Installed GB zip. rebooted and the dang Cyanogen MOD is still there!
I even went over all steps again, this time flashing back to stock. Still Cyanogen MOD is boots up

donbeth said:
Clearly I am a dunce.
I uninstalled the driver on pc. Did a reinstall. Flashed ROM again. Installed GB zip. rebooted and the dang Cyanogen MOD is still there!
I even went over all steps again, this time flashing back to stock. Still Cyanogen MOD is boots up
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Yes yes you are when you flash a new rom wipe data wipe cache wipe dalvik and wipe system
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

i remember, I followed this video.
http://theunlockr.com/2011/05/03/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2x/
to install a new rom
remember: (once you've copied the zip on sd card, power the phone to enter into clockwork and steps)
1. back up and restore
2. wipe data/ factory reset
3. install zip from sd card
so far, it hasn't failed me
you can skip the first one, but shouldn't

Just download Weapon if you want to go back to stock. Its Stock with a few needed tweaks and fixes. Very stable and no issues.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

The reboot issue were in all my G2X(3). Only rom that fixed that was Weapon G2X. Running a custom rom is the way to go with this phone, otherwise you'll go through 100 replacements with same issues.
Today I did an exchange for my brother's line which he has the G2X and the rep told me I could get a brown color G2X because they no longer carry original color or a Sensation. (Not sure what he was talking about brown color because I thought all G2X were the same color other than the white floating around)
So I decided to just get the Sensation, I know it's got issues of it's own, but will give it a shot because I want the G2X to just be a memory of the past.
This phone could have been a beast, but will never live to it's full potential.
Good luck and if you need to exchange again and you don't mind getting a Sensation I would suggest bringing that up to the rep.
Hercules Hercules!!

I'm a little confused...I've been using ROM Manager just fine...?

Neejay said:
I'm a little confused...I've been using ROM Manager just fine...?
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If you screw up and can't boot up, ROM manager cannot get you into recovery. Only an NV flashed clockworkmod recovery will boot up in the event of a boot loop.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

Neejay said:
I'm a little confused...I've been using ROM Manager just fine...?
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You don't have recovery with Rom Manager, yeah it flashes all the roms but if you get into a bootloop or worse then you are SOL.
Hercules Hercules!!

Neejay said:
I'm a little confused...I've been using ROM Manager just fine...?
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Rom manager works just fine. However, like previously said, you just need to NVFlash first for safety reasons.
From a complete stock G2x, NVFlash, Nandroid Backup, and flash a previously downloaded rom (Weapon or CM7 or MIUI or Eaglesblood or any of the other wonderful roms). Custom roms have root so THEN you can go to town with Rom Manager.
I use Rom Manager as my primary flashing service because it not only downloads them, but will automatically reboot into recovery, perform your desired wipe options, and flash. With CM7 it will automatically check for the latest GAPPS and flash it too in one fowl swoop.
Just have to NVFlash first.
I NVFlashed my neighbors G2x the day he got it and, while he didn't want to try custom roms just yet, we did a Nandroid Backup just for laughs. Now he's running MIUI.