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Reading all the reviews the one thing most of them take issue with is the camera on the Moto X. There is something very common between them, the inconsistency from picture to picture. Most say the Moto X is capable of taking good pictures but you need to put up with several bad ones as well. If you take the info from the reviews it's not a "Camera" issue as much as a "Software" issue. The timing of the auto focus to the shutter seems off as well as possibly the color & sharpness of the pictures.
I own a Nexus 4 currently and it doesn't take the greatest pictures either with the AOSP camera. One thing I have noticed is Cyanogenmod's Focal camera app takes better pictures. I tried taking pictures with AOSP, Focal and ProCapture app and comparing them. While I am not using the paid version of ProCapture the pictures are sharper and the color is spot on vs AOSP and Focal, even though ProCapture is taking 3.2mp shots and AOSP/Focal are taking 8.0mp pictures.
Link to ProCapture(Free) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neaststudios.procapture.free&hl=en
I know someone using ProCapture with their new Droid Maxx and says it has made a big difference in the image quality. This should obviously translate over to the Moto X as well. The full version is a few bucks and if someone is willing to purchase it and post their results for everyone that could help lots of X owners out.
Here are three pictures I took today and you can see how ProCapture's are sharper and the color is not washed out. First picture is AOSP, second Focal and last one is ProCapture.
I like the ProCapture app. I have the premium version. I will have to take some test shots to compare the two. However, I cannot find anyway of changing which app is launched when you use the twist gesture to open the camera. Every time I do it, it opens the stock camera. I have made the ProCapture app the default when swiping from the lockscreen but that does not apply to the gesture. Any ideas?
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edit: One thing I wish the ProCapture had was an HDR setting.
HDR setting is in Focus/Scene option menu(second down on the left).
I'm very interested in seeing side by side shots you take. If you can take a variety of shots, in bright sunlight, the sky(good for color comparisons), low light, indoors, close ups, action shots, etc with both camera's and post them here.
As far as the gesture opening the app that's something you can't probably change with the stock software. Once developers start making rom's & mods for the Moto X I'm sure the gesture will be able to be reassigned to another app.
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I like the ProCapture app. I have the premium version. I will have to take some test shots to compare the two. However, I cannot find anyway of changing which app is launched when you use the twist gesture to open the camera. Every time I do it, it opens the stock camera. I have made the ProCapture app the default when swiping from the lockscreen but that does not apply to the gesture. Any ideas?
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edit: One thing I wish the ProCapture had was an HDR setting.
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HDR setting is in Focus/Scene option menu(second down on the left).
I'm very interested in seeing side by side shots you take. If you can take a variety of shots, in bright sunlight, the sky(good for color comparisons), low light, indoors, close ups, action shots, etc with both camera's and post them here.
As far as the gesture opening the app that's something you can't probably change with the stock software. Once developers start making rom's & mods for the Moto X I'm sure the gesture will be able to be reassigned to another app.
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That's a lot of pictures. I will see what I can do.
As for the HDR setting, is it called something other than HDR? Cause it is not listed under the Focus/Scene option. I have the following:
Focus > Auto, Continuous, Infinity
Scene > Auto, Action, Portrait, Landscape, Night, Night portrait, Theatre, Beach, Snow, Sports, Sunset, Steady photo, Fireworks, Party, Candlelight, Backlight
Color effect > None, Mono, Sepia, Negative, Solarize, Posterize, Aqua, Blackboard, Whiteboard
Any comparison pictures you can take will be helpful for everyone. It can show its a software issue that can be fixed.
I'm using the free version of ProCapture, here is the HDR setting.
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Any comparison pictures you can take will be helpful for everyone. It can show its a software issue that can be fixed.
I'm using the free version of ProCapture, here is the HDR setting.
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Looking forward to the results... :good:
Xious1 or someone else give ProCapture a try and post pictures taken with it and the stock camera. I don't have a Moto X yet so I just know how much of a difference it has made on my Nexus 4 and my wife's Razr i.
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Can I squeeze zhe phone to activate this like the original app?
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I'm really not so sure I see much of a difference. Here's my samples:
Moto X Stock Camera:
Moto X ProCapture Free:
Moto X Focal:
Olympus E-PL1 with M.Zuiko 17mm F2.8 lens:
iPhone 5:
Nexus 4 Stock Camera:
Nexus 7 (2013) Stock Camera:
This is done with zero tweaking at all, straight out of the cameras. Even the mediocre Nexus 4 camera makes the Moto X look bad.
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I'm really not so sure I see much of a difference. Here's my samples:
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Moto X Focal:
Olympus E-PL1 with M.Zuiko 17mm F2.8 lens:
iPhone 5:
Nexus 4 Stock Camera:
Nexus 7 (2013) Stock Camera:
This is done with zero tweaking at all, straight out of the cameras. Even the mediocre Nexus 4 camera makes the Moto X look bad.
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I understand testing the app without tweaking, but the reason I did a search for moto x & Procapture was simply, the X doesn't give users the ability to access settings like white balance, exposure, etc. I'm currently on an S3, and was set on either an X or a Droid Maxx, but the camera quality was holding me back. To get decent pics on my S3 I have to play with those settings, but with the stock Moto camera software, I wouldn't have that option. Now if it's possible to get rid of the purple tint that some reviewers are seeing, or give it better contrast, I wouldn't be so apprehensive. But I thought the point of getting an app like that was so you could tweak the settings to get it closer to the better cameras out there.
ProCapture allows many more options to tweak your shots. I used backlight mode this weekend to take pics were my daughter was standing in front of a large glass wall of windows with the sun coming through. With out back light mode you could hardly see her, with it on she popped to the front of the image. This is on my Nexus 4.
Now if you haven't heard Moto is pushing out an update to T-Mobile users right now that fixes the camera issues. The pictures side by side show a dramatic change in quality.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/23/moto-x-camera-update-new-vs-old
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7353/moto-x-update-dramatically-improves-camera-quality
Downside is can't use the cool wrist flick feature thing.
i agree, procapture is a very good camera, expecially to take panorama pics.
but in my opinion the big limit of this app is when you play with options and effect, because, while stock's camera reset values when you launch the app, procapture doesn't do that, but only for exposure (if you check it in settings).
so if you play with values when you launch in another time the app you have to reset all the values by yourself. i sent an email to the dev to make the app reset values when you lanch it.
I used Procapture far a while and was very pleased with it. Had you given FV-5 Camera try? I use it for now and for now i stay with it as it makes for me the best images.
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I used Procapture far a while and was very pleased with it. Had you given FV-5 Camera try? I use it for now and for now i stay with it as it makes for me the best images.
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I'll try it!
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I used Procapture far a while and was very pleased with it. Had you given FV-5 Camera try? I use it for now and for now i stay with it as it makes for me the best images.
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Camera FV-5 doesnt adjust focus/Exposure!
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Camera FV-5 doesnt adjust focus/Exposure!
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It has Autofocus and Autoexposure. You can also do that manulay.
msespindola said:
Camera FV-5 doesnt adjust focus/Exposure!
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You can do a separate exposure and focus though. I used to enjoy ProCamera but I think I can produce better shots with Camera FV-5.
Wow I just saw this post. I was about to give up on my Moto X camera and call it a loss for indoor photos.
Camera FV-5 changed that. This thing is great. Once you read through the manual to figure out adjustments, this thing takes great photos.
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Wow I just saw this post. I was about to give up on my Moto X camera and call it a loss for indoor photos.
Camera FV-5 changed that. This thing is great. Once you read through the manual to figure out adjustments, this thing takes great photos.
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yes i use it since my RAZR. You have to read the manual (pdf) to get knowledge of the full potential of the app. The developer is releasing in some weeks a beta app for taking videos
by the way, there was a big bug when taking photos in portrait with Moto X. The images freezes. This was solved in the last update.
I'm just wondering, is it really good as some people say or is it just average? I didn't get a tracking number yet so I don't think I'll be able to test it myself for a while. Some shots you've taken recently would suffice, just to see the strengths of the camera.
The quality of the actual pictures are fine, but the real deal breaker is how slow it is. Even after achieving focus, there's always this 1-2 second delay after you hit the shutter button. It's terrible. It doesn't matter if the camera took the highest quality shots in RAW if it's too slow to capture anything you could consider a "moment."
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The quality of the actual pictures are fine, but the real deal breaker is how slow it is. Even after achieving focus, there's always this 1-2 second delay after you hit the shutter button. It's terrible. It doesn't matter if the camera took the highest quality shots in RAW if it's too slow to capture anything you could consider a "moment."
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On mine, an HDR+ shot acquires focus and snaps the picture in about 1 second. Regular shots take maybe half a second or less.
aznxk3vi17 said:
The quality of the actual pictures are fine, but the real deal breaker is how slow it is. Even after achieving focus, there's always this 1-2 second delay after you hit the shutter button. It's terrible. It doesn't matter if the camera took the highest quality shots in RAW if it's too slow to capture anything you could consider a "moment."
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Which mode are you speaking of?
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On mine, an HDR+ shot acquires focus and snaps the picture in about 1 second. Regular shots take maybe half a second or less.
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That's not bad, but not insanely fast. If pictures took only a second I wouldn't mind but if it is as bad as he says, then I might have to download Focal and see how that works.
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On mine, an HDR+ shot acquires focus and snaps the picture in about 1 second. Regular shots take maybe half a second or less.
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I would agree with this experience. The camera app itself loads fairy quickly too: 4 seconds from touching the camera icon to having the photo snapped and saved to storage.
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Which mode are you speaking of?
That's not bad, but not insanely fast. If pictures took only a second I wouldn't mind but if it is as bad as he says, then I might have to download Focal and see how that works.
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I also like how it maintains focus based on facial recognition.
It's alright.
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Which mode are you speaking of?
That's not bad, but not insanely fast. If pictures took only a second I wouldn't mind but if it is as bad as he says, then I might have to download Focal and see how that works.
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Just tried Focal and it couldn't take any pictures. Might need an update before it works.
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Just tried Focal and it couldn't take any pictures. Might need an update before it works.
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It's probably not compatible with Kit Kat yet. Are there reviewers having the same issues?
I actually think the camera is pretty good. About the same as a iPhone 5s. Definitely not great though. However, the app sucks. Right now I'm using Camera MX and it's better than the stock app. Mine is pretty fast BTW. Not a long time between shots.
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I actually think the camera is pretty good. About the same as a iPhone 5s. Definitely not great though. However, the app sucks. Right now I'm using Camera MX and it's better than the stock app. Mine is pretty fast BTW. Not a long time between shots.
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Does Camera MX take burst shots?
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Does Camera MX take burst shots?
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Nah, not that I can tell. But there are plenty of free camera apps that will probably perform better than the stock.
I think the camera is very good considering the overall top of the line phone specs vs price.
The OIS works amazing, try it, you can really shake the phone around and the image stays perfectly still - really what a small low mass smartphone needs! As even just tapping the screen to take a photo causes blurred photos.
I also like how it uses the flash to help you pre-focus, something my Desire Z never did, even with JB.
HDR+ is also pretty amazing, I can't fault it yet in my limited use, the photos come out much more vibrant, very impressive for the phone's small size!
Now what is bad is the shutter lag, between taking photos and when pressing the shutter, even if pre-focused... Come on Google, please fix that in your next update .
Other phones take photos a lot faster.
god camera is amazing well down google
i am in love with this phone its surpassed all the non ois equipped device like iphone5s, s4, even not 3 in low light
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digweed4me said:
god camera is amazing well down google
i am in love with this phone its surpassed all the non ois equipped device like iphone5s, s4, even not 3 in low light
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I'm impressed. I'm wondering how it does macro shots, that the real thing I want to know. Are those with HDR+ enabled?
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I'm just wondering, is it really good as some people say or is it just average? I didn't get a tracking number yet so I don't think I'll be able to test it myself for a while. Some shots you've taken recently would suffice, just to see the strengths of the camera.
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Better than the wifes iPhone5 is my rating. It's better is daylight, better is low light, better at HDR, and the photosphere is a game changer.
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I'm impressed. I'm wondering how it does macro shots, that the real thing I want to know. Are those with HDR+ enabled?
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Macro is very good
This shot was just testing out closer photos - I think I could go even closer. HDR+ was off so these are just standard quick shots.
I have attached a photo which I guess will be higher res, and also put it on imgur for the guests viewing.
You can see tiny bits of specs of dust and paint on the rotor blade (rc model heli), very good quality. The blade is covered in oil btw...
http://imgur.com/fBNSRIl
The bokeh is not bad either!
Oh, and reviewing photos on the HD display is beautiful, you can easily see if they are sharp and the colours / clarity is spot on even in daylight.
few more on both regular and hdr +
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androidrockz said:
I'm impressed. I'm wondering how it does macro shots, that the real thing I want to know. Are those with HDR+ enabled?
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top one is hdr +
and one thing why ppl complaining about slow focus mine is almost instant focus and camera shots.
Compared to the Galaxy Nexus camera, I think the camera of the Nexus 5 is an improvement. It performs way better under suboptimal lighting conditions, and it supports HDR which snaps really nice pics with good colors.
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Macro is very good
This shot was just testing out closer photos - I think I could go even closer. HDR+ was off so these are just standard quick shots.
I have attached a photo which I guess will be higher res, and also put it on imgur for the guests viewing.
You can see tiny bits of specs of dust and paint on the rotor blade (rc model heli), very good quality. The blade is covered in oil btw...
http://imgur.com/fBNSRIl
The bokeh is not bad either!
Oh, and reviewing photos on the HD display is beautiful, you can easily see if they are sharp and the colours / clarity is spot on even in daylight.
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This is beyond expectation. Do you have an example of a pure bokeh, pure isn't what I mean, but like, a shot and then the background is completely bokeh.
Hi guys,
The camera of my S7 works perfect and the photos are great, but I was just a little bit curious with it having less MP than the S6... So I googled a bit and came across this camera super pixel app in AC and decided to try it. And wow!!! It works! It definitely works! The interface is rather simple and the whole thing is in beta, but holy crap I really took detailed 48 MP photos!!
Have you tried it??
It's most likely a placebo effect. A 12MP sensor cannot takes photos of a higher resolution.
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It's most likely a placebo effect. A 12MP sensor cannot takes photos of a higher resolution.
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Even I don't think mobile phone cameras can do this: there are cameras that are able to do this!
Cameras with in body stabilization can move the sensor four times one pixel to create a bigger resolution picture.. I think Olympus has a 16 mp camera sensor that's able to create a 40mp pictures. Other cameras use this technology to create pictures with more detail I think Pentax has this.
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Yes but it's not the case with mobile phones.
To achieve more MP there has to be some interpolation, 'invented' pixels. Besides, 12mp is more then enough.
Hi all, I'm one of the developers of the app.
We have been working on this app for 2 years. "Camera Super Pixel" is implementing a super-resolution algorithm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-resolution_imaging
The camera takes a burst of 8 photos (which are aligned with sub-pixel accuracy) and reconstructs an image with 4X pixels . To work well it needs a static scene.
We are now on beta phase and we hope to improve more the quality & speed of the app.
If you have any question please ask me. Thanks for all the feedback!
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anforapps.camerasuperpixel
Article on Android Central: http://www.androidcentral.com/taking-super-resolution-photos-nexus-6p
Mobileillusion said:
Hi all, I'm one of the developers of the app.
We have been working on this app for 2 years. "Camera Super Pixel" is implementing a super-resolution algorithm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-resolution_imaging
The camera takes a burst of 8 photos (which are aligned with sub-pixel accuracy) and reconstructs an image with 4X pixels . To work well it needs a static scene.
We are now on beta phase and we hope to improve more the quality & speed of the app.
If you have any question please ask me. Thanks for all the feedback!
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anforapps.camerasuperpixel
Article on Android Central: http://www.androidcentral.com/taking-super-resolution-photos-nexus-6p
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In low light, it's not really good: the pic are blurry.
what should i use, super pixel or google camera? stock is lame.
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rawandroid said:
what should i use, super pixel or google camera? stock is lame.
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Stock.
rawandroid said:
what should i use, super pixel or google camera? stock is lame.
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stock is superb
rawandroid said:
what should i use, super pixel or google camera? stock is lame.
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Stock has way more options than the Google camera.
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Stock camera is great. Especially in "Pro" mode.
Tried it.. Worry.. But the image is worse than stock camera..
rawandroid said:
what should i use, super pixel or google camera? stock is lame.
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Although I understand the hate after the lame stock cam app in my S4, the stock one in S7 is really great.
- Nice and ergonomic UI
- Not too much lame mode, you can hide then, and even add some more for free
- No shutter sounds when phone is muted
- can store in SD card
- can shoot selfie with heart rate sensor
- can register RAW file in pro mode (DNG format)
- HDR in video ! when at or below FHD 30FPS
and so on...
I still like having the nexus app, but mostly for photosphere...
About the super camera app this thread is about ill give it a try, but for me, the 12Mp are already really impressive for a smartphone. the 48Mpx would be no use for me, as if I want better photo, I already have a high end DSLR.
If you want very nice and sharp photos than you have to install "Bacon Camera" for your Samsung. We hope that someone can do a mod like Google Pixel Quality.
What does bacon camera do that is better than stock? Stock app is good all around but low lighting, it tends to tint red
The photos are sharper and have less noise. The tint problem will be fixed with an update I think
The only reason Gcam is better than Samsung's is because Google uses machine learning and it's massive database for that, I don't think this camera has these at its disposal.
Edit: This app doesn't support camera2 API, meaning you actually have very little control of what the hardware can do and all changes are software edited.
You can also try Footej Camera
Samsung pro mode is better than most of the copy cat apps in the play store. The only thing that works better is the gcam mod for front facing selfie portraits because of the machine learning blur.
The stock app, and the gcam, are the only camera apps you need.
But gcam is Not Working at this moment for s9+
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If you want very nice and sharp photos than you have to install "Bacon Camera" for your Samsung. We hope that someone can do a mod like Google Pixel Quality.
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You wouldn't happen to be the developer of Bacon would you?
I really want the Drama Photo effect from my Galaxy S4. Any idea where I can find this or an app that is like it. This effect will take 4 to 7 shots of a moving subject, and then stitch it together to show the movement of someone. thanks
I don't know any app that give you this. But for me personally I tried yesterday some versions of the gcam mod. Only one version is working a little bit. But picture quality is amazing. I hope someone do a full working mod for our dual camera than you have a Google Pixel camera with Samsung hardware.
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I don't know any app that give you this. But for me personally I tried yesterday some versions of the gcam mod. Only one version is working a little bit. But picture quality is amazing. I hope someone do a full working mod for our dual camera than you have a Google Pixel camera with Samsung hardware.
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Which version? Miniuser version have tinting issue and the rest black screen.
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Which version? Miniuser version have tinting issue and the rest black screen.
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I can't remember which version either. It was very buggy. It wouldn't save pictures Everytime and FC a lot
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I really want the Drama Photo effect from my Galaxy S4. Any idea where I can find this or an app that is like it. This effect will take 4 to 7 shots of a moving subject, and then stitch it together to show the movement of someone. thanks
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Did you find on apkmirror? That was really good module!
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Samsung pro mode is better than most of the copy cat apps in the play store. The only thing that works better is the gcam mod for front facing selfie portraits because of the machine learning blur.
The stock app, and the gcam, are the only camera apps you need.
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Agreed! Pro mode on stock is awesome!
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Stock app is good all around but low lighting, it tends to tint red
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I thought adding a dual aperture is supposed to help with low lighting???
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I thought adding a dual aperture is supposed to help with low lighting???
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It does, but most company besides Google have white balance issue.
Gcam doesnt do low light from what I see. Stock does very well in low light
Is really google camera that good compared to stock samsung camera?
Low-light photo quality sorta depends on the situation. If taking photos outside in low lighting, if you can keep your hands PERFECTLY still, the results can look better than the Pixel 2, but if we're talking consistency, I'd choose the Pixel 9 times out of 10. If taking photos inside in low lighting, especially when the subject is people or food, the quality comes out super soft. Some people like it, but it looks terrible to me. In these situations, I'd choose the Pixel 2 every single time, as it's consistent.
@jassu what app do you mean?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qkLhkyYA5WBW65UY9'
20:9 with stock
16:9 with Gcam
I couldn´t believe my eyes when I got indoors and was about to make a little youtube video for night shot comparison. I couldn´t make the video as some of the nightscape pictures looked awful, grainy and not at all like the preview.
Since I can´t choose 16:9 with stock cam I had to go with 4:3 or fullscreen ... and I never take 4:3 shots. Maybe some settings within the camera options?
The problem is OnePlus doesn't have the resources to develop good image processing.
This camera is very lovable until switch to nightscape. Hopefully you didn't take picture to someone or would've seen a cartoon of that person. Skip nightscape setting until Oneplus hire a decent camera developer. Meanwhile attach to the regular photo mode that takes great pictures.
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The problem is OnePlus doesn't have the resources to develop good image processing.
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Hardware wise I do not believe there is a better device.
I am going to try more tests with mine.
Comparing GCam and Stock camera
If GCam works better it is not an issue just use GCam
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Hardware wise I do not believe there is a better device.
I am going to try more tests with mine.
Comparing GCam and Stock camera
If GCam works better it is not an issue just use GCam
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Yeah the camera hardware is the, the software not so much
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Hardware wise I do not believe there is a better device.
I am going to try more tests with mine.
Comparing GCam and Stock camera
If GCam works better it is not an issue just use GCam
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Pictures at night if there is a little artificial light actually work out better for me with just the normal camera, no nightscape. Gcam does do a better job though since it actually reduces glare on stuff like street lamps, the stock cam on normal doesn´t do that.
They should just work on an entirely new software approach, what they have just isn´t working and I don´t think updates are going to do much. It´s just more or less of the same.
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Spot on.
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I read a thread on the OnePlus forums about Nightscape.
It seems that the timing of the capture complete message is off and the camera team is aware of it and making adjustments.
I tried it myself last night and on the first shot I stayed still for a little bit longer after the message came up. Second shot as soon as the message came up I moved the phone away like I was done taking the picture.
You can see the difference in quality between the two.