Just got my Captivate (rooted, stock 2.2), and despite my misgivings about Samsung (my wife had a Delve...gak), I'm liking it quite well. I've had some experience rooting and flashing ROMs with other phones, but the Cappy is a whole new realm for me. Firstly, the community is way active, and that is awesome. Lots of new stuff to look at every day, but the drawback is that for a newcomer, the backlog of information is daunting.
I'd love to see the Wiki in this forum updated. I have a ton of questions, and yes, they are somewhat answered in older posts, but since I have a stock 2.2 phone, lots of the information out there is out-of-date. Here are some questions I have that would be good information for the wiki. I'd even be glad to update the wiki, but I'm afraid my ignorance would be a hindrance.
What is the latest version of Odin3 that I should use, and where should I get it?
How can I tell what version my bootloader files are?
What do acronyms like JS7, JS8 and KF1 mean?
What kernels are compatible with which ROMs?
What modems are compatible with which ROMs?
Ditto for bootloaders...
Can we get some updated descriptions of kernels and ROMs?
I'm not sure I get all the differences between using Odin3 and SGS Tools. Some description of the tools and when to use them would be nice.
If someone were to volunteer to hold my hand through the process, I would be willing to go through the Wiki and update it with more current info. Since I'm a noob to the Captivate, my perspective on things might make the Wiki more informative to newbies and keep the rest of you from having to deal with posts like this one so often.
-Odin 1.7
-The way in which you enter download mode
-Different Samsung-created firmwares
-All Froyo kernels work with Froyo ROMs... All modems work with all ROMs
-SGS Tools is just a bunch of userspace mods... Odin can flash anything; ROMs, kernels, bootloaders, modems, and anything in between
Sent from my Infuse 4G
You should have froyo bootloaders, most ROMs will state what bootloaders you need, unless you want cm7, miui or a 2.1 ROM i would recommend flashing the AT&T gingerbread bootloaders with odin3. BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN DOING THIS as if cord is dodgy or comes out during the process you could end up with a hard brick. JS8 etc are just names for the different releases of samsung firmware, most custom ROMs are based off these.
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What are the benefits to upgrading my ROM does it make it faster or have more memory? what are the pros and cons of upgrading it?
Hi. From time to time, your device manufacturer will release new ROM. These new ROM has been made to improve or correct several functions. It could be in the form of improved battery life, more free RAM, faster speed etc. As for the disadvantages, I can only think of spoiling your device. You must be careful when you do an upgrade. Make sure you have more than 50% of battery left and remember to backup your data as all data will be wiped out during the upgrade.
Well how do i know if there is anew ROM upgrade and what about the custom ROM im hearing about
Well, I don't know what your device is, or who it's made by, but try the manufacturer's website. If it's an HTC and it's not from AT&T or another carrier, then try finding your device here. If you have a carrier branded device, navigate to the HTC site of your country, go to support, then all devices, and then choose your branded device.
Once again, I don't know your device, so I cannot give you device-specific info on custom ROMs, but basically a custom ROM is an unofficial, non-HTC approved ROM, which will generally offer more freedom and features than official ROMs. For most HTC devices, there are numerous custom ROMs to choose from. There are many advantages, and very few downsides to using a custom (cooked) ROM, the only ones I can think of are that: (1)you must be somewhat ready to risk your device in order to install a cooked ROM, (2) sometimes the cooked (custom) ROMs can be, on occasion, less stable than stock (carrier) ROMs.
Only a few weeks ago, I flashed my first custom ROM, and now I cannot understand how I went so long with a stock ROM. Though upgrading to a cooked ROM can seem daunting,If you are somewhat technical, and up to flashing a cooked ROM, then I would certainly recommend it.
Dave
Gotcha Thank you alot for answering i have an HTC touch pro any tips?
aprillia99 said:
Gotcha Thank you alot for answering i have an HTC touch pro any tips?
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Yes
Read here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael
And here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=437
And enjoy!
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Only a few weeks ago, I flashed my first custom ROM, and now I cannot understand how I went so long with a stock ROM. Though upgrading to a cooked ROM can seem daunting,If you are somewhat technical, and up to flashing a cooked ROM, then I would certainly recommend it.
Dave
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Same here, we had two Trinity's in at work for software testing, the project got binned but we kept the devices. One became my regular phone, the other sat in my desk doing very little. That one got various flavours of WM6.1 on it until I found a ROM i liked, the one i was using stayed on its stock WM5.
Eventually i bit the bullet and upgraded my own device. Haven't looked back since.
Stock roms are stagnant & boring...
Chef's roms are creative & exciting
galaxys said:
Stock roms are stagnant & boring...
Chef's roms are creative & exciting
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exactly! that's the point! but sad, i'm using mwg zinc ii and got no custom roms.
Everyone,
First of all pardon my ignorance. I am a newbie.
Q: I have a HTC Tilt2, and recently unlocked it with a T-Mobile SIM. Today I downloaded "Energy.RHODIUM.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.Dec.27.7z", and "Energy.RHODIUM.29007.Sense2.5.Cookie.Dec.27.7z" roms.
What tool do I use to cook the phone?
Where can I find clear instructions?
Any preferrences between the 2 ROMS?
Thanks,
Reggie
well, let's get things cleared out first. "cooking" a rom means building a rom, made usually by a "chef". "installing" a rom is a different story, which is what most of the people do, download a rom, and then installing it on their devices.
there is usually a rom section in your phone's forums, find them and there should be a full guide for rom "installation".
there are usually some differences between custom roms, which one is more appropriate for u depends on u, and might be different that what others prefer.
Ditto. "Cooking" a ROM is something that requires a lot of skill and usually an SDK plus some tools. Installing one is much easier, and the ROM has already been tested so if you follow the instructions carries a smaller risk of "bricking" your device.
But then again most "chefs" know how to "unbrick" just about anything they've been "cooking" on
Hi -
I just purchased a new Captivate...mint condition. It's still on 2.1.
I'm interested to just getting it updated to the official 2.2 software release. However, at the same time I plan to spend several days studying how to root and installing custom roms.
My question is if I install the official 2.2 update then would I still be able to apply custom roms. I learned the hard way that once 2.2 was applied to the HTC Aria, rooting was out of the question.
Anyway, thanks everyone. By the way, I came from the 3GS. Captivate is really a nice change.
Thanks.
The search function is your friend. Use it.
Okay. Sorry to have asked.
Don't be sorry. I understand, but there are a ton of threads that show how to do everything.
Don't update to the stock 2.2 cause it will give you the new 3e recovery issue.
Just flash to a custom 2.2 custom rom.
Thanks all. I used Android about 1 year ago, but then jumped to the dark side. Trying to pick up a few things again.
A wealth of active information over here. Great to see!
Stock 2.2 is no problem to root / whatever you want to do.
Go to the Developer section of these forums and you'll find all the info you want.
Basically the general idea is this:
The program that can flash these phones directly is available (Odin 1.3)
Therefore you can always do what you want. the 2e recovery is technically easier to root, but gaining this back is as simple as downloading a 6mb kernel and flashing with Odin, and poof you are in Clockwork mod and can do what you want.
Basically, upgrade away, you're never stuck with a captivate provided you dont screw up the boot or sbl. (Search those for explanation)
iFalcon said:
Hi -
I just purchased a new Captivate...mint condition. It's still on 2.1.
I'm interested to just getting it updated to the official 2.2 software release. However, at the same time I plan to spend several days studying how to root and installing custom roms.
My question is if I install the official 2.2 update then would I still be able to apply custom roms. I learned the hard way that once 2.2 was applied to the HTC Aria, rooting was out of the question.
Anyway, thanks everyone. By the way, I came from the 3GS. Captivate is really a nice change.
Thanks.
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if you definitely plan on installing a custom rom, i'd stay on stock eclair. I recently installed Serendipity 6.2 (my first custom rom), and it required an ODIN back to stock 2.1 (unfortunately i had updated to stock froyo). i'm not sure if all roms require this, but it certainly would have saved a few steps if i was on stock eclair. nothing really exciting in stock froyo, especially if you plan on going the custom rom route anyway.
also, i highly recommend Serendipity (now 6.3)
Thanks for the replies.
I was able to root cand flash a custom rom - firefly last night. It's really fun to be back in the game again. Can't say I miss the iPhone so far, but we'll see.
Thanks.
I was disappointed with official the froyo update. Custom roms are much better than stock. You'll also gain a deeper appreciation for what the devs do.
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Are there any ROM's available thru rom manager for the Infuse 4G
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Are there any ROM's available thru rom manager for the Infuse 4G
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No, and don't expect many to ever be there. ROM Manager's faulty CWM has caused so many problems that the recommended installation method for all ROMs here (and in fact currently the ONLY method) is a manual download followed by flashing with CWM, and it will likely stay that way. gtg465x is the only dev who made the mistake of putting his ROMs up on ROM Manager and it caused no end of stress and frustration for him due to all of the people who misflashed.
I'm a long time iphoner jailbreaker. I have read and read. I have probably been on ths forum more in the last 2 months than any other member and I'll stand behind that comment. Can you post a thread that explains this in detail lol. I'm old. I had 1.53 then went to 2.03 but I couldn't make a call so I'm back stock rooted.
Right now, if you look through the dev forum:
Three Froyo ROMs - Infused v1.x, Refuse, Bionix Infinity. All three are good solid high-quality ROMs. These all have HDMI support and solid data performance on AT&T.
One complete Gingerbread ROM - Infused v2.x - As you may be able to tell, since this is based on a Canadian firmware release it has... issues in terms of data performance on AT&T. It's been tough to find a good configuration that works in all AT&T areas - things that fix the situation for some users completely break others. I'm seriously beginning to think that until AT&T releases Gingerbread we should go with the original RIL and APN combo - they didn't achieve "awesome" performance for anyone but they also didn't achieve "broken" performance for anyone.
There is also the brand new Hellraiser package, which lets you flash i9000 ROMs. There are a few known issues (the first call you make or receive after installation has no audio but it works OK after that) but it's overall working fairly well.
Is there a thread that can explain this in detail.I'm back to 1.53 but don't feel comfortable with the procedure. I just want to learn. Not trying to be a noob.
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Is there a thread that can explain this in detail.I'm back to 1.53 but don't feel comfortable with the procedure. I just want to learn. Not trying to be a noob.
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Most ROMs have installation instructions. I suggest you read most of the first posts of ROM release threads, then read up on rooting techniques (SuperOneClick is the most common), then google ClockworkMod, then google Android ADB.
I am a little puzzled. Some days ago I read a post where someone told "flash ROM XXX on the Firmware YYY".
I always thought, that the ROM IS firmware, by mean just another term for it.
All I found in this forum was ->that<- for which is totally bull**** and not explaining it in Android-Device case (for the explaination for PC-OS had to be: Windows/Linux is the OS [like da ROM for Android device] and Firmware is the BIOS ... you all know for sure)
That brings me to my questions:
What is the Firmware on Android?
How does it affect the ROM, especially in developement?
I sure know here are many very knowing developers, which could explain it to me, and of course others like to know about.
Thanks in advance.
Rod.
its simple
Firmwares are the brains of the unit, they set up the hardware and initialise things, like a BIOS on a PC. Its all the stuff done under the hood that you don't see.
The ROM is the part of the phone that holds the Operating System (Android), and the applications and data. Its the stuff you tend to look at and use.
The firmwares are release by the phone manufactures, they are constantly tweaking and improving them. They have different variants for different locales etc. The dq5 and kt1 firmwares are just the version of the firmware (like 1.01 and 1.02) - they use letters to encode data, F and M indicating the month if I recall. They are officially released via Kies. The "other" firmwares floating around are beta (test) firmwares that have been leaked or ripped from other phones.
The ROMs are based on the Android Open Source Project (AOSP).The devs then take the AOSP source and customise, it to "make it unique".
hope it helped
That was understood. Thank you very much.
There are just more questions coming up now on me:
Is the latest Firmware also the best?
Can I use every ROM with the most actual (or the best) Firmware?
Where Do I get the latest firmware and how to flash?
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That was understood. Thank you very much.
There are just more questions coming up now on me:
Is the latest Firmware also the best?
Can I use every ROM with the most actual (or the best) Firmware?
Where Do I get the latest firmware and how to flash?
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in most cases firmwares released by the companies contains only those things which works best with that particular device so in terms of bugs etc it is the best.
roms can be only be used with the particular firmware it is developed on like if a rom is developed in froyo it can only be used with different versions of froyo for best result and likewise for the rom developed in gingerbread.
and there is no such thing as the best firmware as every new firmware is better than its predecessors.
to get latest firms you can use sammobile.com [have to login to download firms]
for gfit firms go here:=
http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-S5670&r=1#modelsa
Thanks again. Everything explained to me, for the moment.
(might be some questions will form overnight)
Rodsengard said:
Thanks again. Everything explained to me, for the moment.
(might be some questions will form overnight)
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always welcome dude.....