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Currently, I fall on the WinMo side of the coin.
All my email is hosted by Google Apps, and is pushed to my WinMo device by GoogleApps using the MS Activesync (MS Exchange Server) protocol.
If I move onto an ANDROID device, what mechanisms are available to me, to have 'always on' push-email? Will my GoogleApps account have to MS ActiveSync to my Google Powered phone? Seems a bit weird. I know there are some 'constant connected' implementations of IMAP too, but apparently they're particularly resource / data hungry.
Can anyone advise - I'm likely to buy my first Android phone quite soon.
The default gmail application does push. There are also several options and settings for push or timed queries for other mail services, exchange or otherwise through market applications or the stock email application.
Android phones usually have 2 mail apps. One for gmail which automatically pushes mail to the app and works absolutely brilliantly. The second is for all other types of mail accounts eg pop, Imap, and exchange ActiveSync. This can be scheduled or set to push under ActiveSync.
Thanks folks, for all the input.
This sounds like it would actually work better for me, as it seems I'd be able to have instant push email through the gmail app, for my google-apps domain, and the second mail client could be pushed email directly from an exchange server.
Wonder how it'll handle contacts from both!
I think all that remains now, is do I get the HTC Desire, or the SE Xperia X10,
and that's a question out of scope for this thread, I think.
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
I actually switched from having a hosted MSexchange account to a Googleapps GMail acct, and push works great.
n0ahg said:
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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The email app on android doesn't have a seperate domain box and keeps putting a '\' on the front of the '<mail name>@gmail.com' :-(
I know this is some sort of thread necromancy but I have a question regarding setting up google mail while also using the standard google account for synchronisation.
Both methods offer also synchronisation of contacts and calendars. While having both calendar synchronisation options active it will clone your entries. What about the contact synchronisation? It seems reasonable to have both options active as adding a new contact over the email app (which will use the exchange active sync) would synchronise with the google contacts which in turn should fill up your contacts handbook. Or is it obsolete as the stock email app will already add the contact to your google account even using seemingly another account?
I would appreciate any attempts to clear this confusion
Nevermind. Found it out myself: just stay with the google account, the stock email app takes it info from there and does integrate it.
issue im facing on the GMail app that comes built in with the OS, I cannot move emails to a specific folder. Any overcome ?
Some of this needs to be done from a PC......
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
ratta77 said:
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
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Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
Hi guys,
For all those who are looking for having your private domain mails pushed to your phone, without having an Exchange setup, GMAIL does it!
Here is a step by step guide for adding POP/IMAP mail accounts into your GMAIL account and therefore getting the mails pushed to your phone.
Only thing is that the mails take around 15-20 minutes to come through, as GMAIL fetches your POP/IMAP mails into its server every 15 minutes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-gmail-your-own-personal-push-mail-server
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Next alternative is using SEVEN MAIL! this is a brilliant app, very very easy to setup, and gives you mails in 5-10 minutes max!
here is the page where they have a direct download link for the SEVEN app
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/seven-a-push-email-client-released-on-android-2-1.html
and above all, like Gmail, its also FREE!
Airosa said:
Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
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I have to agree with you. How could google let us down? the email app is crap.... I miss iphone email client but i hate APPLE
Problem push mail motorola Razr
Hello i just got my razr 3 days ago is running 2.3.5 I just notice that i dont get my emails on time i have to keep refreshing every-time i happen either with gmail app nor email app i try to modify the settings but is not too much to set i try to delete the gmail update and still the same problem, i have also a blackberry and the emails goes straight away to my blackberry and after 30 or 40 to my razr which is very annoying i want to get rid of blackberry, Somebody knows how to fix it? thanks
Hello
I like the email client that comes with android (the one for accessing secondary email accounts). It does seem to have a major limitation though, you can not move mail around to different folders (e.g. lets say an important message ended up in my spam folder by accident, I can not see any way to move that message to the inbox)
If this is in fact possible could someone please tell me how to do it, but if it is not (which from what I can tell this is the case) can someone recommend an email app that supports this function.
Thank You
***UPDATE***
Yes I am using the vanilla/AOSP email app being that I am running cm6
The email account that I am connecting to is my AOL account. I am not 100% certain but I thought AOL uses IMAP.
So I guess the new questions are 1) does AOL use IMAP and 2)does the AOSP email app allow you to move emails between folders
If what you are accessing is a POP3 account, then I believe no email client permits you do do this (as this sounds like a sync function only found in IMAP accounts).
What I found to work best (and easiest) is to have my alternate email accounts foward all my mail to my gmail account, and have my gmail account tag each email with the name of the incoming account (hotmail emails are taged hotmail, etc.).
This lets me recieve all my email with one single app (Gmail), provides me with push notifications for every email, permits me to sync emails effortlessly, an so on.
dsMA said:
Hello
I like the email client that comes with android (the one for accessing secondary email accounts). It does seem to have a major limitation though, you can not move mail around to different folders (e.g. lets say an important message ended up in my spam folder by accident, I can not see any way to move that message to the inbox)
If this is in fact possible could someone please tell me how to do it, but if it is not (which from what I can tell this is the case) can someone recommend an email app that supports this function.
Thank You
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I'd think that any email client can do it, but I personally use K9 Mail and love it, and it certainly does this.
As the above poster says, if you're using POP this might not be possible. IMAP it certainly is. You should not being using POP anyway.
Don't know about the vanilla android one but I know the HTC Email program will let you move between folders.
It appears that the stock mail client in the new 2.2 ROM has fulll Exchange Support. I was able to do a remote wipe of the device from Outlook Web Access. Once I intiated the wipe on my computer my phone rebooted and formatted itself. I then received the following email:
The remote device wipe has completed successfully.
The remote device wipe you initiated from the Mobile Devices Options page on 10/1/2010 10:16:04 PM is complete.
Device type: Android
Device ID: androidc1773342835
Note: To sync with Microsoft Exchange, you must remove this device from the list in the Mobile Options page.
Otherwise, for security purposes, your device will continue to clear data if you try to sync again.
Also, the stock mail client now has the ability to move email to folders.
Seems to work well.
i cant get my [email protected] to works on push email. it only works with polling.
Some other changes to Exchange email:
Phone numbers in emails are selectable, but not in calendar appointments (still). Now it is no longer possible to go into edit mode on calendar appointments you don't own - so no way to cut/copy/paste phone numbers into dialer.
Still no support for Exchange groups - but google groups work - they have to be created on the computer.
GAL is the same - no way to access phone number (that i can find) only email lookup.
Email search is only on the handheld, not on the server.
PIN lock works, but no way to set time. It seems immediate, so either on or off, but it does take the place of swipe to unlock.
Stock email seems almost as fast as lagfix email - so moving through and deleting is much better then 2.1
Do tasks sync yet? If not, I can't believe it. Why is it so hard to sync tasks?
Also, does this support HTML email? I know touchdown does this but the stock email in 2.1 does not.
rkorzuch said:
It appears that the stock mail client in the new 2.2 ROM has fulll Exchange Support. I was able to do a remote wipe of the device from Outlook Web Access. Once I intiated the wipe on my computer my phone rebooted and formatted itself. I then received the following email:
The remote device wipe has completed successfully.
The remote device wipe you initiated from the Mobile Devices Options page on 10/1/2010 10:16:04 PM is complete.
Device type: Android
Device ID: androidc1773342835
Note: To sync with Microsoft Exchange, you must remove this device from the list in the Mobile Options page.
Otherwise, for security purposes, your device will continue to clear data if you try to sync again.
Also, the stock mail client now has the ability to move email to folders.
Seems to work well.
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I went ahead and updated to the Froyo leak and am now having issues setting back up my Exchange. I removed the devices from the mobile options page.
When I go to setup Exchange on the phone, it successfully re-list my device on the mobile options page but fails on the email setup. Any ideas?
Error: "Setup could not finish: Cannot connect to server"
Mobile Options Page:
"Status: OK
First Sync on: Sun 10/3/2010 3:19 PM
Device ID: validate"
netnerd said:
i cant get my [email protected] to works on push email. it only works with polling.
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You have to use m.hotmail.com as your exchange server address and use your email address as username. You need to do manual setup instead of letting it auto search for it.
BTW, the Froyo email client also takes away the sync schedule and sync size options. There is no way to turn off email sync during night time
On the plus side, you can add more than two exchange accounts now.
If you have email being moved unread on server to specific folders, does it show up on the phone client?
I have folders per person in my company. I have setup rules to automatically move unread messages to their folder. Will these messages show up on my captivate?
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keitht said:
Do tasks sync yet? If not, I can't believe it. Why is it so hard to sync tasks?
Also, does this support HTML email? I know touchdown does this but the stock email in 2.1 does not.
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Why do you say 2.1 doesn't support HTM email? I get HTML messages all the time and they show up like HTML - I don't see tags as the email is rendered. If the email client didn't support HTML, then you would see all the brackets and tags as plain text.
Could be a server setting is not telling your phone to treat the email as HTML.
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Why do you say 2.1 doesn't support HTM email? I get HTML messages all the time and they show up like HTML - I don't see tags as the email is rendered. If the email client didn't support HTML, then you would see all the brackets and tags as plain text.
Could be a server setting is not telling your phone to treat the email as HTML.
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That is exactly what I see. If I use Touchdown, it works perfectly so I know it is not my Exchange server. I am using Exchange 2003.
Krad said:
If you have email being moved unread on server to specific folders, does it show up on the phone client?
I have folders per person in my company. I have setup rules to automatically move unread messages to their folder. Will these messages show up on my captivate?
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There is still no setting to control which folder sync automatically. So if I go into my Junk folder - it is empty unless I refresh. When it does sync, the unread emails put in the junk email folder via a rule, show up as unread.
alphadog00 said:
Why do you say 2.1 doesn't support HTM email? I get HTML messages all the time and they show up like HTML - I don't see tags as the email is rendered. If the email client didn't support HTML, then you would see all the brackets and tags as plain text.
Could be a server setting is not telling your phone to treat the email as HTML.
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Not really. EAS protocol requires client and server to negotiate protocol versions. If either client or server does not support HTML, Exchange server will strip off all the HTML stuff and send only the plain text email body to the client. So, no, you should never see HTML tags in Exchange client. So the only way to tell if you're reading HTML email is to check out the email with embedded images or different fonts on different part of the email message.
foxbat121 said:
Not really. EAS protocol requires client and server to negotiate protocol versions. If either client or server does not support HTML, Exchange server will strip off all the HTML stuff and send only the plain text email body to the client. So, no, you should never see HTML tags in Exchange client. So the only way to tell if you're reading HTML email is to check out the email with embedded images or different fonts on different part of the email message.
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I was just trying to get OP to explain why he thinks HTML mail wasn't working under 2.1 - maybe he is using the Exchange client with a non-Exchange server. If you don't see tags, but you do see pictures, there are clickable links that don't look like URLs, and there are colors and shading - then HTML email is working. It worked fine for me in 2.1.
I was also thinking of the case of forwarded emails or originating servers where the mime type is text but the content is HTML - Exchange is going to pass it through with all the tags in the plain text - so it would look like the client is not rendering it.
Showstopper - found by Ogar1978 and I just confirmed it.
Forwarding and Reply in Exchange losses all comments that were not part of original email. Althoug i had one reply go through with my comment but not the original text.
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I was also thinking of the case of forwarded emails or originating servers where the mime type is text but the content is HTML - Exchange is going to pass it through with all the tags in the plain text - so it would look like the client is not rendering it.
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It doesn't work that way. I never, through many email clients and mobile phones, receive any emails look like what you described.
HTML email is designed to be backward compatible with plain text email so that the situation where you described will never happen. The main message body is contained in the email text while all the tags, images are attachments. An HTML capable email client will have to re-assembly email text with the attachments to reconstruct the HTML page out.
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I was just trying to get OP to explain why he thinks HTML mail wasn't working under 2.1 - maybe he is using the Exchange client with a non-Exchange server. If you don't see tags, but you do see pictures, there are clickable links that don't look like URLs, and there are colors and shading - then HTML email is working. It worked fine for me in 2.1.
I was also thinking of the case of forwarded emails or originating servers where the mime type is text but the content is HTML - Exchange is going to pass it through with all the tags in the plain text - so it would look like the client is not rendering it.
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I can promise you it is not working for me at all. Not in 2.1 and I just upgraded to 2.2 and still does not work. I can load Touchdown and when I select the "html email" option, I see it exactly as I see it in Outlook with images and all with no tags or URLs. I would use Touchdown but I prefer the integrated email with stock so I will have to deal with it I guess. Attached is an example. I have removed Touchdown so can't prove to you that it does work.
New background colors in mail
This is a nice new feature in 2.2 Froyo... you can change the colors of the background now. Before there was only one choice, now many others. I like dark backgrounds.
Unless you're only reading Chinese or Japanese, you'd better stick to the default white background. Any other color scheme will cause word breaks apart in the middle when ever it reaches the edge.
alphadog00 said:
Showstopper - found by Ogar1978 and I just confirmed it.
Forwarding and Reply in Exchange losses all comments that were not part of original email. Althoug i had one reply go through with my comment but not the original text.
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Deff. a showstopper for anyone trying to use the phone as at a corporate level.
I am going to troll the I9000 boards and see if the froyo they have been running has the same issue and if so if there has been a fix.
keitht said:
That is exactly what I see. If I use Touchdown, it works perfectly so I know it is not my Exchange server. I am using Exchange 2003.
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Exchange 2003 does not support html email via true push. Iphones and touchdown uses a different methods to download emails. I believe they use the owa to download emails differently than stock clients. It is not true push. you need newer exchange 4 true html pushing with stock email clients. Varying of course the client can handle html.
I have noticed that I am still having a problem with emails sent internally that are missing the @domain.com. We have emails generated by web programs that are sent as just the user name. These come to my phone as "null". Very annoying. Can't reply to them without knowing who sent them.
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Can't make my signature right, always puts is in one line even when I editing my signature I have multiply lines.
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so, i had a hotmail account set up on my htc mail app. mail came through with no problems, but any actions i took on the device didnt get reflected on the server. so if i read/deleted mail on the device, i had to do the same on the web inbox.
i switched to k-9 mail which now deletes mail on the server, but doesnt mark the mail as read once i've read it. something which i do quite often as i use my hotmail for online purchases, and i want to read an invoice but keep it for reference.
does anyone know an app that allows mail thats read on the device to be marked as read on the server?
muchos gracias!
anyone?
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anyone?
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My wife has a blackberry and uses hotmail also. I believe the problem lies in the difference between POP3/IMAP. Hotmail connects via POP3 and from what I gather that protocol doesn't involve much more than basically forwarding the messages to your phone. While IMAP (which Gmail is capable of using) allows the syncing of deleted items\read items\etc.
dkelle4 said:
My wife has a blackberry and uses hotmail also. I believe the problem lies in the difference between POP3/IMAP. Hotmail connects via POP3 and from what I gather that protocol doesn't involve much more than basically forwarding the messages to your phone. While IMAP (which Gmail is capable of using) allows the syncing of deleted items\read items\etc.
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I had a blackberry before my android and was able to read and delete mail, mark mail as unread etc and it would be reflected in my hotmail inbox. its really frustrating as having the blackberry allowed me to manage my inbox completely without having to log into my hotmail and now i feel like im going backwards
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so, i had a hotmail account set up on my htc mail app. mail came through with no problems, but any actions i took on the device didnt get reflected on the server. so if i read/deleted mail on the device, i had to do the same on the web inbox.
i switched to k-9 mail which now deletes mail on the server, but doesnt mark the mail as read once i've read it. something which i do quite often as i use my hotmail for online purchases, and i want to read an invoice but keep it for reference.
does anyone know an app that allows mail thats read on the device to be marked as read on the server?
muchos gracias!
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Try this:
Setup a new account.
In the first screen, where you write your name and password, hit manual setup. In the next screen, select the last option (Exchange ActiveSync).
In the details put:
Server: m.hotmail.com
Username: your email eg. [email protected]
Domain: leave this blank
SSL: Enable this/use always
Certificate: SSL
It has some additional settings (sync contacts, calendars, etc.), select as needed.
Began testing last weekend after seeing this post. http://androidcommunity.com/forums/349480-post18.html
E-Mail is working good so far, have not used contacts and calendar sync. It pushes messages and syncs them both ways when necessary.
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Try this:
Setup a new account.
In the first screen, where you write your name and password, hit manual setup. In the next screen, select the last option (Exchange ActiveSync).
In the details put:
Server: m.hotmail.com
Username: your email eg. [email protected]
Domain: leave this blank
SSL: Enable this/use always
Certificate: SSL
It has some additional settings (sync contacts, calendars, etc.), select as needed.
Began testing last weekend after seeing this post. http://androidcommunity.com/forums/349480-post18.html
E-Mail is working good so far, have not used contacts and calendar sync. It pushes messages and syncs them both ways when necessary.
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so so close!
firstly, thanks for the tip. it seems to be working, but the only issue is that it has constant sync failures. i've only had it up for half an hour or so and have been testing it out, and when it works - it works well. but the syncing issue could be a deal breaker if its not an time-isolated issue. so far i've had to manually instigate the sync when i know theres new mail, or i want to push changes back to the server.
will give it a few days and see. if its still buggy i dont see spending 12 quid on it as getting value for money.
Weird... It's been working perfect so far, maybe it has to do with the OS version you have on your device, I have Cyanogen's 6.1 RC1, Android 2.2.1. Anyway I was looking for a product called Exchange for Android 2.x, but it's $20 and this is not an urgent need for me.
BTW, why you need to expend $12 on this, it's free as far as I can tell
I need to find a way to save Emails on an Android phone, no Email client will do that so far as I can find?
My ISP is POP3 ONLY and I'm unwilling to change my email address so don't say use IMAP or Gmail.
I have no problem saving messages on my BB or on a WinMo phone, why can't Android's email client do that? BB has a 'save' option on the email menu which moves the mail to a Saved folder, WinMo allows me to create a Saved folder and move email to it which remains after it's deleted on the server, exactly the same as any email client on a PC so why does Android not allow anything similar?
NOTE: I've set my PC's email client to delete message from the server when they're downloaded, that's not going to change, there has to be a way for the Android device to do that or must I go back to WinMo or BlackBerry because of this one ridiculous failure of the Android OS?
Not sure i'm seeing the problem here. If you want to save your emails just don't delete them?
Same for me. I'd love to be able to make email folders so I can organize the accumulated emails. Having all emails in the inbox just doesn't work and is a pain in the ass.
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I think not possible you can keep them as long as you can
no itry to mush
ruhkh said:
I think not possible
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I believe you're correct, I'm currently back on my BlackBerry as one solution to the problem.
you could try opening a gmail account, sync with your pop3 account and dont tell anyone your new e-mail address
What Robbie said. You can have emails forwarded to your GMail?
Check out K-9 mail. The native email client that comes with android blows- it's bare bones and it's meant to be that way. The phone and the OS is designed to use gmail as your main email. Although a gmail account is my main email, i also have to use some other email account and the native android email app does't cut it for me. K-9 has an archive feature which will create a local folder and save a copy of that email. I am using IMAP and haven't setup anything with pop3, but give it a try and see if this app works for you.
eat-this-cake said:
Check out K-9 mail. The native email client that comes with android blows- it's bare bones and it's meant to be that way. The phone and the OS is designed to use gmail as your main email. Although a gmail account is my main email, i also have to use some other email account and the native android email app does't cut it for me. K-9 has an archive feature which will create a local folder and save a copy of that email. I am using IMAP and haven't setup anything with pop3, but give it a try and see if this app works for you.
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I have set up k9 and tried the archive but it just took the message of the server, how did you copy it instead?