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I recently upgraded my ATT Captivate to 2.2. I now have a problem with apps starting up on there own even though I've going into apps management and have killed them. I even have app killer and its not automatically killing the apps. These aren't the att apps, these are apps that I've installed.
How can I prevent apps from starting back up. Its killing my battery life.
Thanks
dirk1965 said:
I recently upgraded my ATT Captivate to 2.2. I now have a problem with apps starting up on there own even though I've going into apps management and have killed them. I even have app killer and its not automatically killing the apps. These aren't the att apps, these are apps that I've installed.
How can I prevent apps from starting back up. Its killing my battery life.
Thanks
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Get os monitor and check how much mem they use. If u see one that is always over 20%, uninstall it.
Also u can stop ur running services.
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What BW said. Don't worry about them in there unless you find one using up too much battery/resources. They won't drain your battery unless it's a bad app.
BWolf56 said:
Get os monitor abd check how much mem they use. If u see one that is always over 20%, uninstall it.
Also u can stop ur running services.
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I have also stopped the services for the apps that are restarting, and they keep coming back like bad mexican food.
dirk1965 said:
I have also stopped the services for the apps that are restarting, and they keep coming back like bad mexican food.
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You could try unistalling your task killer and getting Advanced Task Killer (it's the one I personnaly use). Now killing a app won't stop it from restarting, you usually fix that in your running services. Also make sure that these apps arent widgets - in that case they will always restart
BWolf56 said:
You could try unistalling your task killer and getting Advanced Task Killer (it's the one I personnaly use). Now killing a app won't stop it from restarting, you usually fix that in your running services. Also make sure that these apps arent widgets - in that case they will always restart
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Actually, its Advanced Task Killer that I have installed. Yes, I totally understand apps vs. services. I'm stopping the services for the apps that have restarted, yet they continue to restart after the service has been killed. These apps are definitely not widgets.
dirk1965 said:
Actually, its Advanced Task Killer that I have installed. Yes, I totally understand apps vs. services. I'm stopping the services for the apps that have restarted, yet they continue to restart after the service has been killed. These apps are definitely not widgets.
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Umm, may I ask what are these apps?
The only app that takes couple tries for me to stop if the facebook one. Also, some app are made to constinusly refresh and get info from the internet. If that's the case with your apps, block their internet connection or change their settings to have it refresh manually.
Also, you can tell some apps not to start on boot up - that might temporaly fix your problem.
BWolf56 said:
Umm, may I ask what are these apps?
The only app that takes couple tries for me to stop if the facebook one. Also, some app are made to constinusly refresh and get info from the internet. If that's the case with your apps, block their internet connection or change their settings to have it refresh manually.
Also, you can tell some apps not to start on boot up - that might temporaly fix your problem.
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Apps like Google Maps, ColorNote, Daily Briefing and others. Its very random what apps decide to start.
dirk1965 said:
Apps like Google Maps, ColorNote, Daily Briefing and others. Its very random what apps decide to start.
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I duno about colornote but as for the others, they automaticly refresh using the internet and so like I said in my other post, you have to set it so the either can't access the internet (might as well unistall them in that case) or set their refresh to manual so it only refreshes when you "tap" on them.
Google maps refreshes for your location. That one will be a pain especially if you have the gps on.
If you get over a day of battery life with moderate usage and that you like these app, then I'd say to just live with it. If it's not the case, I suggest getting rid of them but if OS Monitor doesn't show them using your mem/battery, then they don't actually do/change much.
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I duno about colornote but as for the others, they automaticly refresh using the internet and so like I said in my other post, you have to set it so the either can't access the internet (might as well unistall them in that case) or set their refresh to manual so it only refreshes when you "tap" on them.
Google maps refreshes for your location. That one will be a pain especially if you have the gps on.
If you get over a day of battery life with moderate usage and that you like these app, then I'd say to just live with it. If it's not the case, I suggest getting rid of them but if OS Monitor doesn't show them using your mem/battery, then they don't actually do/change much.
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Okay, I'm with you. So where exactly do you set apps to refresh manually?
dirk1965 said:
Okay, I'm with you. So where exactly do you set apps to refresh manually?
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once on the app, hit your menu button (bottom left one ) and you should have a setting option - each app will be different but it mostly comes to the same thing. Also if you don't have any menu option, there should be a (i) kind of image/icon somewhere in the main app page but these are rare. Most app will have their setting menu.
Thanks. I'll try it and see what happens.
nice conversation, very informative. thanks guys
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lyrad12 said:
nice conversation, very informative. thanks guys
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I'm not sure if everybody uses this, but Autostarts is one of my favorite root apps and I recommend it to all of my friends who have rooted. I don't see too many people talking about it anymore so I figured I would remind everyone of this awesome app. It allows you to prevent any apps from running on their own. After using Titanium Backup to debloat my ROM, I then open up Autostarts and run down the list and disable any apps that I don't want to startup without my say so. It does wonders for freeing up RAM. I did this on my Epic 4G Touch and never needed to flash a single custom ROM because I was able to get the stock ROM running flawlessly. It is an invaluable tool to me and I recommend it highly.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
broken link?
Maroon Mushroom said:
broken link?
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My bad, I just fixed it.
I know this is old post, but I bought this app a long time ago also. It's a pretty powerful app and you can modify every reason for an app to start.
I vote to move this to the App section.
rom toolbox also has this feature
expertzero1 said:
rom toolbox also has this feature
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Yep! I actually like ROM Toolbox's feature a little better now. It's got an easier layout.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Yep! I actually like ROM Toolbox's feature a little better now. It's got an easier layout.
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Hahaha! Last night I just found this feature in ROM toolbox and was about to post it here!!
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_MetalHead_ said:
I'm not sure if everybody uses this, but Autostarts is one of my favorite root apps and I recommend it to all of my friends who have rooted. I don't see too many people talking about it anymore so I figured I would remind everyone of this awesome app. It allows you to prevent any apps from running on their own. After using Titanium Backup to debloat my ROM, I then open up Autostarts and run down the list and disable any apps that I don't want to startup without my say so. It does wonders for freeing up RAM. I did this on my Epic 4G Touch and never needed to flash a single custom ROM because I was able to get the stock ROM running flawlessly. It is an invaluable tool to me and I recommend it highly.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
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Is it able to disable Google Play from starting up at boot? I´ve disabled the event I consider to be associated with Google Play (with Autostarts), but still the app launches by itself at every reboot...
Ricfil said:
Is it able to disable Google Play from starting up at boot? I´ve disabled the event I consider to be associated with Google Play (with Autostarts), but still the app launches by itself at every reboot...
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no, it will not. more importantly, google maps is a battery hog, and a privacy killer, and it is also unable to be killed. not by gemini app manager, nor in conjunction with autostarts. google maps will report everywhere you go, and there is nothing you can do about it.
if only someone (windows maybe?) would come out with a nifty phone and declare "Hey we won't sell your soul!" i would so be on board. HTC is slowly drowning themselves, so i am finally, after 6 years, ready to move on to a new brand, and wouldn't mind leaving google behind.
wdkingery said:
no, it will not. more importantly, google maps is a battery hog, and a privacy killer, and it is also unable to be killed. not by gemini app manager, nor in conjunction with autostarts. google maps will report everywhere you go, and there is nothing you can do about it.
if only someone (windows maybe?) would come out with a nifty phone and declare "Hey we won't sell your soul!" i would so be on board. HTC is slowly drowning themselves, so i am finally, after 6 years, ready to move on to a new brand, and wouldn't mind leaving google behind.
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Thanks man.:good:
If your interested I managed to disable Maps from always being on the background on my system . What I did? Used Titanium Backup (Pro edition) to convert it to a user app (because it needs to be so, for the next step). After, used a free app called Greenify (you may find it on the Play Store), to "hibernate" Maps at boot time. Result: No more Google Maps on the background . This app is great! You should give it a try. Maybe you may keep your HTC a few more years using it
Unfortunatly trying the same for Google Play messes with its app update functions... that is why I ask.
Hope it helps you on the Maps issue.
Any other ideas anyone?
i use gemini app manager itll stop it all but also remember that certain actions also stop it from updating the market so be careful which autostart functions u stop: although there are more than just at boot for most apps
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Ricfil said:
Thanks man.:good:
If your interested I managed to disable Maps from always being on the background on my system . What I did? Used Titanium Backup (Pro edition) to convert it to a user app
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Mine is already a user app..?
imma reinstall autostarts see if it has stopped working correctly. i know many instances can trigger apps so you can't just disable on startup for it not to run. but i remember disabling maps in like 3-4 places and it stopped starting unless i told it to start.
I have maps disabled completely in both autostarts and Gemini app manager. And maps is still my #1 battery drain. often my phone displays the gps signal when I wake it up, even though I haven't used maps in days.
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Mine is already a user app..?
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Ok. Good. But did you follow the rest of my post? Have you used Greenify to stop Maps from loading? It works perfectly for me.
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wdkingery said:
I have maps disabled completely in both autostarts and Gemini app manager. And maps is still my #1 battery drain. often my phone displays the gps signal when I wake it up, even though I haven't used maps in days.
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I do really advise you to try Greenify
Greenify does the same thing right?
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The_Zodiac said:
Greenify does the same thing right?
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You may use both in conjunction. Hell, I´m using Autostarts, Autorun Manager (for its simplicity) and Greenify. You just have to know what apps/events are disabled/enabled in them.
Greenify is a little diferent in the way that it hibernats apps when they are not being used/when with the screen off. It works of boot and is really pretty helpfull on those "stubburn" apps that do wish to always remain in the background. With Greenify on they are gone! For good .
Check it on Play Store for more info. Older versions seemed to have some issues with superuser access, with the new one, that seems fixed. It is a great app IMO, saves LOTS of battery and enables a little more ram available for things that do matter (good specially for phones with low RAM memory chips). In the case of your phone you will mainly notice an improvement in battery life, since RAM seems not an issue.
You should try it out
Ricfil said:
Ok. Good. But did you follow the rest of my post? Have you used Greenify to stop Maps from loading? It works perfectly for me.
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I do really advise you to try Greenify
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Yes I did! And it worked well! Thanks a bunch! Battery life has been great since that very moment! Over 24 hours and still 70%!
wdkingery said:
Yes I did! And it worked well! Thanks a bunch! Battery life has been great since that very moment! Over 24 hours and still 70%!
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Maps, as you said, has got several instances and events triggered for the most crazy things (at least in my book - since I do not need many of them), and that was why it still kept restarting even after all events disabled (there should be hidden ones related to other apps still operating in a complex interconection). At least that is how I imagine it was working. Greenify manages to hibernate it altogether (Titanium style), with the advantage of being "quicker" "unhibernating" it when needed. No complains for me so far
Glad it helped. It seems an excelent app!
See you:good:
Re: Greenify
Just bought titanium backup pro to use in conjunction with Greenify. $6 to stop maps and facebook from eating half of my battery. Totally worth it IMO.
Kudos to whoever suggested the app first.
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Since updating from 6.0.1 to 7.0 on my Nexus 6P I have realized that the task manager I used no longer works. I tried many other popular and non popular task manager apps on Nougat and none of them work. They all display something like "no running apps to display."
So obviously it seems in 7.0 Google updated whatever command is needed for an app to pull the running apps from the system, and no one has updated their task manager app to work with 7.0. I was pretty shocked that in the forums no topic with "task manager" was created with in the past 6 months to talk about this.
So are others people experiencing this with task managers on Nougat? If so, have you found any task manager app that works with Nougat?
Edit: sorry if this the wrong forum to post this, but I figured it applied here since it seem to be related to new API causing these types of apps to not work. Feel free to move it if this topic fits better somewhere else. Thanks!
Why would you use third party task mangers when you already have one built in Android?
Prince Chandela said:
Why would you use third party task mangers when you already have one built in Android?
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Simple! Because ever since Android 5.0 the task manager only shows the average RAM usage. It does not currently show what's running in real time. Only shows the past 3 hour, 6 hour, 12 hour, or 1 day average. It shows apps that are not even running at that very second. That information can be helpful some but not for everything.
In Android 4.4 and earlier it used to show real time what apps were running. Just like on Windows computers task manager shows real time what's running. If an app starts running, it appears on the list. if an app stops running, it disappears from the list. This is helpful for finding a rogue app on your battery, or a rogue app slowing down your phone using a Ton of RAM. It is not as easy identifying a rogue app with averages. Especially if it's an app that's not running all the time in the back ground.
AndroidPurity said:
Simple! Because ever since Android 5.0 the task manager only shows the average RAM usage. It does not currently show what's running in real time. Only shows the past 3 hour, 6 hour, 12 hour, or 1 day average. It shows apps that are not even running at that very second. That information can be helpful some but not for everything.
In Android 4.4 and earlier it used to show real time what apps were running. Just like on Windows computers task manager shows real time what's running. If an app starts running, it appears on the list. if an app stops running, it disappears from the list. This is helpful for finding a rogue app on your battery, or a rogue app slowing down your phone using a Ton of RAM. It is not as easy identifying a rogue app with averages. Especially if it's an app that's not running all the time in the back ground.
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Go to Developers Option > Running services
Prince Chandela said:
Go to Developers Option > Running services
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Wow... I'm not sure how I been in developer settings countless times And over looked that. ThankS!
Prince Chandela said:
Go to Developers Option > Running services
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+1 here, good find!
just updated to nougat and also my task manager of old stopped working.
Prince Chandela said:
Go to Developers Option > Running services
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Does it also kill apps automatically? I dont want services running after i close the app, and i dont want to go to running services to do it everytime... Android should have that option lets call it dont allow background running or while screen off...
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Does it also kill apps automatically? I dont want services running after i close the app, and i dont want to go to running services to do it everytime... Android should have that option lets call it dont allow background running or while screen off...
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It won't kill apps automatically you can use Greenify for that or you can do it manually every time after you open the app again.
There are two ways
1. Go to app info and force stop it. (recommended)
2. Go to running services and stop it from there.
Once you open the app again all service will be restarted. The first option is easy and straight forward
Prince Chandela said:
It won't kill apps automatically you can use Greenify for that or you can do it manually every time after you open the app again.
There are two ways
1. Go to app info and force stop it. (recommended)
2. Go to running services and stop it from there.
Once you open the app again all service will be restarted. The first option is easy and straight forward
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I know man i was just trying to make a point about still needing task killers, look what permissions greenify needs to do that now: usage access, draw over apps, accessibility permission... Horrific permisions... Android even asked for my fingerprint when giving it accessibility permission and said it needs it cause of encryption...
If that was native in Android (no background running option per app) that would be great.
Might even partially fix poor ram managment in Android...
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Grr and how to view what's consuming cpu? Show cpu usage doesn't work properly on nougat s7 for example. And the included ram manager is poor and it slowly refreshing
DSF said:
Grr and how to view what's consuming cpu? Show cpu usage doesn't work properly on nougat s7 for example. And the included ram manager is poor and it slowly refreshing
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For ram usage use running services in developer options.
I totally agree with you, moving on to a newer system broke a lot of apps...
InterrtuptoR said:
For ram usage use running services in developer options.
I totally agree with you, moving on to a newer system broke a lot of apps...
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I know that man, i need something for cpu usage
DSF said:
I know that man, i need something for cpu usage
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Download cool tool from playstore.
It works on my nexus, and its on screen overlay...
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Cannot see process cpu usage
Only a loading... placeholder
DSF said:
Cannot see process cpu usage
Only a loading... placeholder
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I dont know... try finding cool tool topic on xda... Search the net...
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gazzacbr said:
+1 here, good find!
just updated to nougat and also my task manager of old stopped working.
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Hi, updating here to -1. Agree with posters above, built in is a pita to use.
My old task killer was click app, click kill, job done :good:
Also really useful to quickly see what was running right now and those naughty apps that restarted themselves
Someone must have a decent easy task killer for rooted Nougat
Updating again: Advanced Task Manager free is working just not the pro version I paid for. Looks like they care more about the ads than their paying users. Ok for me anyway. Rooted phones don't have ads
In Android 7.0 Google once again has made undocumented changes and has significantly restricted access to the proc file system. This means that since this new API level it is not possible anymore to retrieve processes info. Task Managers running on devices with Android 7.0 will only show total CPU usage, their own CPU usage and memory usage, but not CPU usage for other processes. Running the app on a rooted device does not make difference. More info on File system changes in Android Nougat - Stack Overflow. Star this Android issue to push Google to implement an alternative API.
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https://github.com/AntonioRedondo/A...fo-since-android-nougat-70-api-24-august-2016
Maybe a CPU/RAM monitor that should work in Nougat
I was looking for a CPU monitor before upgrading a TV-Box to Nougat and I found his thread in meantime it seem (I have not tested it) that "System Panel 2" should work with rooted device even with Nougat: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sp
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I built and installed the app on my phone, but I couldn't get it to work. Can you please let me know how does it work? After some guiding pages, it reaches to a page with yes and no question. after selecting each of them, it shows a circle progress above the page and does nothing.
I liked the idea about the app so I'm very excited to get it to work
Thanks
Sorry, I didn't see your post, I thought that I'd get a notification when someone posts something here...
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artosian said:
it shows a circle progress above the page and does nothing.
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Doesn't it say "ALL APPS" anywhere? Quite strange...
What Android version are you using?
Can you send me a log excerpt (
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What happens when you wait 2 minutes?
The app should run in the background and automaticly freeze pre-selected apps just like Greenify does, overwise it's not much useful to me.
Been using this app for a week and like it alot. Especially as it seems to be one of the few open source options.
Only thing I miss in this is the ability to freeze system processes or the bloatware apps coming with the phone. Many of them are possible to freeze manually, but unfortunately they dont show up in SuperFreezZ.
Then there is the problem with restarting apps. As dimqua mentioned there is a need for autofreeze.
Module6 said:
Only thing I miss in this is the ability to freeze system processes or the bloatware apps coming with the phone. Many of them are possible to freeze manually, but unfortunately they dont show up in SuperFreezZ.
Then there is the problem with restarting apps. As dimqua mentioned there is a need for autofreeze.
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Good point, I will add it when I implement settings: https://gitlab.com/SuperFreezZ/SuperFreezZ/issues/8
And see https://gitlab.com/SuperFreezZ/SuperFreezZ/issues/15.
Hello,
I am really interested in switching from Greenify to SuperFreezZ, but am not entirely clear as to what the differences between the 2 apps are (if any).
What difference is there between freezing an app and hibernating it (which is what Greenify does, right?)? Why would it be a problem to unfreeze an app once it has been frozen, and does this process differ from what Greenify does with apps that have been hibernated?
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Hello,
I am really interested in switching from Greenify to SuperFreezZ, but am not entirely clear as to what the differences between the 2 apps are (if any).
What difference is there between freezing an app and hibernating it (which is what Greenify does, right?)? Why would it be a problem to unfreeze an app once it has been frozen, and does this process differ from what Greenify does with apps that have been hibernated?
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There is no difference between freezing and hibernating.
And neither SF (SuperFreezZ) nor Greenify have anything to do with unfreezing/de-hibernating, the Android system does this from itself when you start a frozen/hibernated app. It is a problem because you will have to wait some more seconds until the app is loaded and the process also consumes some energy. And it does not differ from using Greenify at all, except for the fact that the developer of Greenify doesn't warn you.
So - actually you will see what the main differences between Greenify and SF are when using them. There are almost no "hidden" differences.
Module6 said:
Been using this app for a week and like it alot. Especially as it seems to be one of the few open source options.
Only thing I miss in this is the ability to freeze system processes or the bloatware apps coming with the phone. Many of them are possible to freeze manually, but unfortunately they dont show up in SuperFreezZ.
Then there is the problem with restarting apps. As dimqua mentioned there is a need for autofreeze.
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dimqua said:
The app should run in the background and automaticly freeze pre-selected apps just like Greenify does, overwise it's not much useful to me.
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I implemented both of these features, you will have to look for them in the settings though. This is because they are rather for advanced users (that is, those who have a look at the settings).
I can now receive monetary donations: https://liberapay.com/Hocuri/! If you like the app, please consider donating something.
Please, add a root option to hibernate apps without accessibility service.
APK plox?
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Can you explain if it is useful on android pie or just redondant?
kryzeK said:
Please, add a root option to hibernate apps without accessibility service.
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Have you seen Drowser https://f-droid.org/de/packages/com.jarsilio.android.drowser/? It is also FOSS.
skiely666 said:
APK plox?
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I did not understand this, what do you mean?
EMJI79 said:
Can you explain if it is useful on android pie or just redondant?
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It depends. SF can completely prevent apps from running in the background.
Newer Android versions (like, Pie) let the apps run in the background fewer and fewer when they are not used, to save battery. SF can make SURE that apps do not run in the background at all. From https://gitlab.com/SuperFreezZ/SuperFreezZ:
Get back control over what runs on your phone (this did not change)
Enhance battery life and reduce mobile data usage by freezing rarely used apps (hint: the system will also let them run in the background only a little, even without SF).
Especially useful while you are on a tour, where you need only some apps but a long battery life
If you want to be really sure, you will have to test whether using SF saves battery yourself on your particular phone with your kind of using it.
Update: Apart, apps cannot use the camera or get your current location or use the device sensors while they are frozen.
Update 2: Also see https://www.xda-developers.com/superfreezz-freeze-background-apps/
hcur said:
Have you seen Drowser https://f-droid.org/de/packages/com.jarsilio.android.drowser/? It is also FOSS.
I did not understand this, what do you mean?
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It's ok I got it ?
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hcur said:
Have you seen Drowser https://f-droid.org/de/packages/com.jarsilio.android.drowser/? It is also FOSS.
Don't you intend to add this function?
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Gilfreitas said:
hcur said:
Have you seen Drowser https://f-droid.org/de/packages/com.jarsilio.android.drowser/? It is also FOSS.
Don't you intend to add this function?
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It depends. It seems not to make sense to just duplicate this functionality on the first sight, but: Is there any reason why you would prefer SF over Drowser?
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hcur said:
Gilfreitas said:
It depends. It seems not to make sense to just duplicate this functionality on the first sight, but: Is there any reason why you would prefer SF over Drowser?
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First of all, thank you for this cool foss greenify alternative.
I don't think you should worry much about copying that since "am force-stop" is first result when searching "kill android app command" and the accessability thing seems like a more complicated hacky workarround. Having this as an option for rooted devices would be helpful, especially for killing apps while locking the screen as I could not get that feature to work reliably so Im left with freeze shortcut. I like this freezZer more because I find default delayed freezing the most convenient way to save some wattbytes having way more installed apps than I'd like to admit. (Seriously, why would someone need to have an app that calculates dew point? No idea but it prooved itself that one time and it's only 127kB!)
Intelligent feature could maybe be improved by logging usage and delaying freezZing more (in defined bounds) the more frequently given app is used, but this may be a hustle to implement.
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anyone experience the issue? and how to resolve it? thanks\
just got the phones for the past few days. SOT around 5hours + and main battery drain is on one UI home
selferng said:
anyone experience the issue? and how to resolve it? thanks\
just got the phones for the past few days. SOT around 5hours + and main battery drain is on one UI home
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Check again after a few days.... Btfery drain is always worse after a factory reset or on a new phone as Android learns your usage Patterns
I have a 10+ running on Pie.
It took me months to sort out excessive battery usage. If your phone is running warm at idle you need to track down the causes. I use PD MDM package blocker which helps a lot if used wisely. A lot of junk that needs to be disable in settins too. My nominal battery usage screen off, plain jane AOD on is 1% an hour. Surfing the web, watching a vid is about 10% an hour. Your device probably uses more though even when optimized not sure though.
In Samsung Device Care, use factory load if it is the one with 360 degrees on it. Do not update.
•In Device Care punch Optimize for power/screen setting.
•Toggle on fast charging and -nothing- else. (see image)
You can then package block this app.
•This configuration will also keep power management from unwantedly killing apps in use like Poweramp. All other unused apps should go into standby mode when not in use or screen off... without power management options being toggled!
Use no 3rd party power management and for now don't toggle any apps to sleep.
•In Developer options>stand by apps, all buckets should show as active, if not unwanted power management is active.
Let the base Google default settings handle power management. Enabling advanced power management appears to cause conflicts leading to excessive CPU/battery usage.
•Any cloud app will steal power and bandwidth, Google Backup Transport and Goggle Services Framework are prime offenders.
•Disable all carrier, Samsung, Google etc diagnostic feedback as well as carrier updates and Playstore.
Enable as needed.
•Use Samsung Gallaxy Labs Battery Tracker to help track usage.
Framework will still show usage with AOD is active about 1% @ hour when blocked. It should be well below 1% when phone is active.
I've posted more detailed info in the 10+ forum.
Each phone configuration varies so try these suggestions, what works for me may or may not work for you.
Get a package disabler and start locking it down... play with it.
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I use PD MDM package blocker which helps a lot if used wisely. A lot of junk that needs to be disable in settins too. My nominal battery usage screen off, plain jane AOD on is 1% an hour. Surfing the web, watching a vid is about 10% an hour. Your device probably uses more though even when optimized not sure though...
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Thanks for sharing your tips here.
Which app are you referring to? Is it Package Disabler Pro? Searching "PD MDM" brings up a whole load of different PD apps on the Play Store.
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Thanks for sharing your tips here.
Which app are you referring to? Is it Package Disabler Pro? Searching "PD MDM" brings up a whole load of different PD apps on the Play Store.
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You're welcome.
They aren't on Playstore. You have to look a little or know about them.
Been using it for at least 3 years probably longer. Very stable. A great tool for non-rooted Samsungs.
https://www.packagedisabler.com/
Stopped using that paid one from Police-whatever because their lame app stopped being able to block AT&T updates.
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You're welcome.
They aren't on Playstore. You have to look a little or know about them.
Been using it for at least 3 years probably longer. Very stable. A great tool for non-rooted Samsungs.
https://www.packagedisabler.com/
Stopped using that paid one from Police-whatever because their lame app stopped being able to block AT&T updates.
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Thanks for link. It's weird though, as the app made by Policedeveloper on the Play Store has the same UI and same name, they also use identical screenshots with an old Samsung phone model! I wonder if they are the same developer or one has copied the other.
I was using the one on the Play Store but it did break after upgrading to Android 10. I am considering buying the app you recommend but don't want to get burned again. I know its not a lot of money but I don't want to be sold a lemon!
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Thanks for sharing your tips here.
Which app are you referring to? Is it Package Disabler Pro? Searching "PD MDM" brings up a whole load of different PD apps on the Play Store.
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Thanks for link. It's weird though, as the app made by Policedeveloper on the Play Store has the same UI and same name, they also use identical screenshots with an old Samsung phone model! I wonder if they are the same developer or one has copied the other.
I was using the one on the Play Store but it did break after upgrading to Android 10. I am considering buying the app you recommend but don't want to get burned again. I know its not a lot of money but I don't want to be sold a lemon!
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Don't know who stole what but know I'll never use anything from Policedeveloper again. Trashware.
Didn't appreciate their lame attitude when I emailed them either.
I've used PD MDM on Kitkat and Pie. Lol, no plans to jam Q into my 10+ though; it's running stable and fast.
I was apprehensive at first too, but they have consistently given me a quality app.
If they say it's compatible you should be good to go.
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You're welcome.
They aren't on Playstore. You have to look a little or know about them.
Been using it for at least 3 years probably longer. Very stable. A great tool for non-rooted Samsungs.
https://www.packagedisabler.com/
Stopped using that paid one from Police-whatever because their lame app stopped being able to block AT&T updates.
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That's the same one I used on my other devices what have you disabled so far???
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That's the same one I used on my other devices what have you disabled so far???
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Funny you should ask. I just alphabetized the list.
<string>com.amazon.appmanager</string>
<string>com.android.emergency</string>
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<string>com.google.ar.core</string>
<string>com.matchboxmobile.wisp</string>
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<string>com.microsoft.skydrive</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.camera.sticker.facearavatar.preload</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.edgetouch</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.homestar</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.notes</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.routines</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.settings.bixby</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.social</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.spage</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.tips</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.authfw</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.beaconmanager</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.agent.dummy</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.agent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.service</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.wakeup</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.da.daagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.easysetup</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.fmm</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gametools</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gos</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.ipsgeofence</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.kidsinstaller</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.lool</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.mateagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.net.wifi.wifiguider</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.samsungpass</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.samsungpassautofill</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.scloud</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.spayfw</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.wellbeing</string>
<string>com.samsung.desktopsystemui</string>
<string>com.samsung.safetyinformation</string>
<string>com.samsung.systemui.bixby2</string>
<string>com.samsung.systemui.notilus</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.cmas</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.desktoplauncher</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.dexonpc</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.safetyassurance</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.samsungapps</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.ve.vebgm</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.wlantest</string>
<string>com.sec.android.daemonapp</string>
<string>com.sec.android.desktopcommunity</string>
<string>com.sec.android.desktopmode.uiservice</string>
<string>com.sec.android.service.health</string>
<string>com.sec.spp.push</string>
<string>com.synchronoss.dcs.att.r2g</string>
<string>com.wb.goog.got.conquest</string>
<string>com.ws.dm</string>
<string>com.wsomacp</string>
<string>eu.thedarken.sdm</string>
<string>flipboard.boxer.app</string>
<string>net.aetherpal.device</string>
<string>org.fdroid.fdroid</string>
<string>org.malwarebytes.antimalware</string>
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In Google Play Services>app permissions, disable all to get Google Transport Framework from using excessive battery. Google Transport Framework and Google Transport are package blocked as well. The former is the last step to shut these power sucking background apks down. So far I haven't lost any functionality I use.
Took me a year to track all of these down. Ha!
Should be 94 blocked apks, may have lost some in the confusion of manipulating the list.
Some of the blocked apks I've enabled the widget toogle to turn them off/on like Playstore.
•I'm running a 10+ on Pie... no idea how the Fold on Q will respond to this list but probably similarly.
•This list is customized for my set up and circumstances; each user's needs are different.
Best practice is to formulate your own list... the hard way. That way you'll learn what the apks you're blocking do and how the apks interact/their dependencies.