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I stopped by an AT&T corporate store to get a hands on with the Captivate. The salesperson there tried to tell me that the standby time on the device was 15 days if you kept apps from running by downloading an app killer. I asked if he really meant 15 days if no radios were running. He said "nope, 15 days is pretty easy".
Really, folks... what is reality here? Is it similar to other smartphones, where a day with moderate use is reasonable?
There is no way the phone will last 15 days in standby even with a good task killer. How can the sales rep tell you this if he only had the phone in store for 2 days?
That's a very good point... but he was very sure of his claim. I pulled out the "I'm very skeptical" response and walked away. Oh well, looks like once again, truth is in the internets somewhere, not in someone who should know such things.
Another element to this is whether an upgrade to 2.2 will increase battery life. I work away from any ability to charge and really need a phone to hold up all day.
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That's a very good point... but he was very sure of his claim. I pulled out the "I'm very skeptical" response and walked away. Oh well, looks like once again, truth is in the internets somewhere, not in someone who should know such things.
Another element to this is whether an upgrade to 2.2 will increase battery life. I work away from any ability to charge and really need a phone to hold up all day.
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Well, my N1 holds charge for about 1 day with moderate use. As soon as I play with the GPS and google's built in nav system I get maybe 4 hours worth of usage. Another issue I have with my N1 is that my car charger cannot keep up with the drain, so even plugged into the charger the battery percentage is decreasing. Sure hope the Captivate is better in that respect.
Froyo did increase battery life a bit but it is not earth shattering. The advantage of this phone is the larger capacity battery and hopefully a less power hungry samsung processor than the qualcom snapdragon.
I am sure within the next few days we will have some folks with more concrete consumption estimates.
i don't know... while the 15 day claim is a bit much, mine was fine with heavy usage all day yesterday on the half charge that it came with from AT&T... given that, i think that it should last 2-4 days easily with only light-moderate usage.
My battery lasts me all day. It's just marginally worse than my 3GS I think... My 3GS always had extra at the end whereas my Captivate seems to run out when I'm going to bed.
So... It lasts all day. That's really all that matters to me.
My battery has not been able to make it through the day. Don't know why yet. I have my email accounts set to 30 minute sync schedule, have Wi-Fi and bluetooth off. Don't know what is going on. Still researching. Will see how it goes for a week. Might be a bad battery.
i find that dark backgrounds help. Also keep unecessary things off and dl an app killa. I had a new captivate today at 10am and with its half charge and heavy usage it lasted me till 6
by heavy usage i mean constant surfing and dling shiz. I didnt use gps wifi or play a movie. also played that free mario game for bout an hour.
After about 11.5 - 12 hours of very light browsing (maybe like 1/2 hour 3g surfing, no calls, all apps killed with task killer every once in awhile) with Bluetooth and Wifi off I am at 68% left. This is with auto brightness.
I'd say if you don't do anything you might be able to get 3-4 days out of it. According to my battery stats 78% of all my battery usage has been the screen. Keep that thing off / or low brightness and you are going in the right direction.
i bet by standby att means the phone being not used and turned off for like 4 days lol
systoxity said:
i find that dark backgrounds help. Also keep unecessary things off and dl an app killa. I had a new captivate today at 10am and with its half charge and heavy usage it lasted me till 6
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Thanks systoxity, I will try that
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i find that dark backgrounds help. Also keep unecessary things off and dl an app killa. I had a new captivate today at 10am and with its half charge and heavy usage it lasted me till 6
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By dark, he means a background that has a lot of black in it. This is really helpful because the Super AMOLED screen on this phone turns off power to pixels that are black, so basically that part of the screen isn't using any power. A black background is almost like turning the screen off.
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By dark, he means a background that has a lot of black in it. This is really helpful because the Super AMOLED screen on this phone turns off power to pixels that are black, so basically that part of the screen isn't using any power. A black background is almost like turning the screen off.
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this, thanks for clarifying.
note: it further helps if you apply a static one.
I was able to listen to music for 6 hours at work, show off my phone (I only showed it directly to one co-worker - I had 5 other guys come to check it out after he told them about it lol!), did some light surfing, downloaded a few apps and generally fiddled around with the phone and ended up at 43% battery. Not great, but not terrible either. Screen was the big killer here. GPS and WiFi off except to test Layar.
We'll see if battery life improves, but it enough to make it through one day easily for me. Forget to charge it and it'll be flat early into the next day though. I'm a bit disappointed, considering benchmarks on the Galaxy S came up with nearly 8 hours of constant video playback. I think they had brightness at 50% and I kept setting mine to max to show off the screen and then forgetting to set it back, so that could be part of it. I was definitely expecting more though. I'm clearly not the most demanding user here, so I was hoping to potentially eek out two days of usage (just in case I forget to charge it).
One of the reasons I went with the Captivate instead of waiting for the Epic is that the form factor seems to be a bit more amenable to adding an extended battery. Hopefully we'll start to see some 2500mAh or even 3Ah batteries show up - even if it means getting a new backcover. THAT should just about do it
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Well, my N1 holds charge for about 1 day with moderate use. As soon as I play with the GPS and google's built in nav system I get maybe 4 hours worth of usage. Another issue I have with my N1 is that my car charger cannot keep up with the drain, so even plugged into the charger the battery percentage is decreasing. Sure hope the Captivate is better in that respect.
Froyo did increase battery life a bit but it is not earth shattering. The advantage of this phone is the larger capacity battery and hopefully a less power hungry samsung processor than the qualcom snapdragon.
I am sure within the next few days we will have some folks with more concrete consumption estimates.
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Also the Super AMOLED Screen sucks alot less Juice as well...
My friend has the Vibrant and has had it for about 4 days. He is a power-user like me, and he said with his task killer, he can run the phone for 2 days on a full charge. This is outstanding for a smart phone... I ordered my Captivate today, should be here on Wednesday so I'll also put this to the test!
better battery life is coming once devs hop aboard. Also, your phone will need training over the next few days so it can only get better from here for you. I also recommend just leaving brightness on auto detect. You wont have to play with it as much and forget it on super bright.
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idk if you guys like haptic feedback but i think its annoying as all hell. Turn it off to save an iota of battery.
Also tone responses for menu clicks? ANNOYINNGG turn that shiz off for a squirt of juice.
Lastly, unless you live by your email, turn sync off and only sync manually when ur curious about it.
I wonder about some of the widgets. I have Weather And Toggle Widget (which I prefer over Beautiful Widget), and have it set to update the weather every 30 minutes. Wonder if that's too often. The weather in Iowa can be very unpredictable and change quickly, but I'm inside all day so it doesn't really matter. I guess it's just eye-candy mostly.
I also wonder how WATW compares to BW in terms of battery consumption.
I turned haptic off (I agree, it was annoying). I turned the tones off, though I doubt that will affect battery life. I wish I could keep the tones for dialer and kill it for the keyboard.
EDIT: I keep reading about this idea that you train your battery (or device) to your usage, but I'm not sure that I understand/buy it. I could see perhaps something to do with the memory effect if these batteries are susceptible to it, but this idea of "training" it strikes me as very odd. Does Android have some kind of battery optimization algorithm that adjusts services based on your usage or something?
from what i understand, calculating battery life is like a guessing game. calibrating your device by letting it drain out and then fully charging it and draining it out again completely gives your phone an idea of just how long it can last on a single charge. Until you do a few cycles like this it will incorrectly display batter life percentage giving the user a false sense of security or panic. There may be more to it that has to do with the actual battery itself but idk the rest of the details.
and 30 min updates is a bit much lol. u should update like once a day and manually refresh if you need to know b4 u go out.
I'm getting very good battery life on my phone. As good as any iphone I've had and better than any of my windows mobile phones before that. I don't have any widgets constantly pulling down data though and only have my google account syncing contacts and calendars and an exchange account running.
Ok I have been reading since literally the first day the G2x came out about the "Horrible" battery life of the phone. So, after toying with it for about 8 days I have nailed it down so that the phone gets about 20 hours of Moderate use(Constant texting, internet for emails, YouTube, and searches, and probably about 2 hours of light gaming(not Nova or NFS)). So, Outside of the obvious like make sure your bluetooth, wifi, and GPS are off and turn your display brightness down here are my steps to Better Battery Life.
First - Root The Phone. There is plenty of links and help if you don't know how or have questions about rooting.
Second -(Root Needed) Use Titanium Backup or Antek App Manager(Antek is free) and Freeze or uninstall all the bloatware that you don't use off of your phone. Especially Car Home cause along with people on XDA i have also noticed that it does use a fair amount of battery for NO Reason.(Be careful with My T-mobile and My Device might throw your phone into a force close frenzy)
--For some reason people have been asking exactly what T-Mobile Apps you can freeze/uninstall and the answer is. All of Them. I personally left My T-Mobile(To view Minute Usage) and Wifi Calling(Cause I have no service in some buildings) and froze the rest, but you can get rid of everything you don't want or use.
Third -(Root Needed) Set CPU. Have had this on my G1 and N1 and it does nothing but save battery. I currently have it set on 216 - 1000 for when the screen is on and the only profile i have is for when the screen is off and it is at 216-216.
(Alternative) Pimp My CPU. I now am using this for my G2x because I am running custom kernal. Personally I like Set CPU better, but do to the fact that Set CPU can't get past 1000 MHz makes it kinda useless for the G2x Tegra 2.
Fourth -(Root Needed) Battery Calibration. There is an App in the Market for this and it is easier and less of a hassle than Factory Reseting the phone. Just charge all the way to 100% and i discharged to 0% and recharged it and Amazing difference in battery life. (And don't doubt the Calibrator cause right after i set it to calibrate the initial 100% got to zero in about 7 hours, but after that one cycle i was getting the 20 hours i am now)
Fifth - Elixir. Not only does this app display anything you might wanna see about your phone (CPU usage, battery temp, battery percentage, memory...) it also has a widget that lets you toggle your internet on/off. Which is almost necessary since "4G" kills battery like no other.
Sixth - Auto Sync. I shouldn't have to put this, but if you don't know your phone is set up to auto sync all your Google apps(Calendar, Gmail, Contacts) and Social Network apps(Facebook,Twitter). So go into settings and make sure that you turn auto sync off.
Now the next steps aren't proven to give extra life, but i did them just in case and well I get 20 hours of use like i said before.
Sixth - Watchdog. This app monitors all the other apps and processes in your phone and will alert you if a rogue app is draining your better life.
Seventh - I did the "Alternate Battery Fix". This involves changing one setting and who knows maybe it does help me get extra juice.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051036
Eighth - Wifi Never sleep. Supposedly according to some if you change wifi to Never Sleep it will stop some loop in the programing which in turn will save battery.
Ninth - Wifi Calling. If you didn't decide to freeze/uninstall this app. Make sure that this is OFF, because whenever you have wifi on it will constantly flip between Wifi Calling and normal radio towers, which once again is bad for your battery life.
Well, Thats that and if y'all can think of anything that i missed or have any questions or ideas let me know! And remember this is a Dual-Core, High-End, Monster Phone and duh if you use it hardcore (Movies, HD Games, tons of web browsing) the battery will die fairly quick.
P.S. Will post a Screen Shot of Uptime for 20 hours later(if it doesn't Re-boot before i get to 20)
Update #1: Have read all the posts and have decided to speak up about a couple things.
Task Killers - I feel like these are brought up in every thread ever created about batteries, and well they are useless. So, if you are gonna bring up the ram usage argument. Android is made to kill programs that are either inactive for to long or the operating system will shut down background tasks if a new app needs the cpu power. Than for those who say that it helps close programs and makes the battery last longer.Having a Task Killer that basically re-closes the same apps over and over again(These are usually bloatware background apps that for some reason never stop running) is not gonna do anything except waste precious battery life on running the task killer itself cause the app will just restart. Your best bet is to run watchdog find the apps that are taking to much battery and freeze/uninstall them.
Managing Apps - Apps like Tasker, Juice Defender, and the like are in my opinion not battery savers at all. They are just tools to implement what i have already previously stated, but that doesn't mean that they aren't useful. They are good if you have a busy schedule and have to constantly turn the internet on and off or switch between certain settings, but they are not actually a cause of better battery just a tool to implement what you could do on your own.
I've done most of those things over the course of the last week and I just got a little over 24 hours on my last charge.
Those tips are legit.
Thanks! I was kinda worried about it cause it was my first post!
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Thanks! I was kinda worried about it cause it was my first post!
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good job man i love it most def legit
squidbutt said:
good job man i love it most def legit
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Thanks! haha but if anyone has anything to add let me know I would like this thread to hopefully kill all those other ones away cause I am tired of them cluttering the forum when I am actually looking for something!
Great job! I've been getting about 20hrs of battery life using some of these... now I have more tricks to add =-)
Good job! I'm almost done withall the tweaks and have say it helping. Thanks
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Great tips. I was doing most of those, but have added the calibration software as well as watchdog. I have also found Juice Defender to be a big help.
Thanks again.
this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
Tasker can be a friend in this whole deal too.
If you can automate your radios & screen brightness to exactly what you need when you need it you can save significant battery life.
If your WiFi calling app can't stay on wifi, you need to fix your wifi network and not your phone.
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With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
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Yeah, but on the flip side your an early adopter for technology that literally JUST CAME OUT and so there is no perfected system for it. I mean the version of android we are running right now doesn't even truly support dual-core! So yes this is the price we pay, and if dual core had been out for two years I would completely agree but it hasn't. This is what android has always been built on a semi flawed system but top of the line technology and thanks to the great community we have we can push the limit of every device out there even the g1.
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I meant this for people like myself who live in an area ( or college like me) where you are constantly moving in and out of wifi range and that would take a drain on your battery.
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With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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I think the reason we have so much haptic feedback though is because we are lacking physical buttons and the small vibration gives us the sense of a solid keyboard even though as you stated everything is a touch screen. Well that is my 2 cents anyway.
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Tasker can be a friend in this whole deal too.
If you can automate your radios & screen brightness to exactly what you need when you need it you can save significant battery life.
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I will definitely look into tasker and check it out personally and add it to the list later! Thanks!
Update: I have seen programs or apps like this before many moons ago i used a program called wisyncplus and basically it is just profiles. This I guess could be used to increase battery life, but in my opinion apps like this and Juice Defender and what not are simply 1) too much of a hassle - cause you have to usually set up each profile individually 2)This is more of a convenience - It doesn't actually increase battery life it is just a manager almost like a widget.
Than back to your argument about the screen brightness my auto-adjust does just fine depending on the lighting and honestly in less your watching a movie, playing video games, or doing intense web browsing your more than likely not even gonna have your screen on that long. (and to those of you that say the Auto-Adjust doesn't work remember that this is an LCD screen it is lit from behind so it is gonna seem brighter unlike the Nexus S which is lit in the screen making it viewable with less brightness)
Than for automating radios honestly there is already widgets for that. The stock rom comes with a Wifi on/off widget so no complaints there, and elixir(which is a free and very useful app) comes with a apn off/on widget which is really all you need cause in my experience unless my internet is on I see no difference in battery life being GSM preferred over WCDMA preferred.
So in less you really do have a tight schedule, or just don't wanna mess with changing settings manually(and with widgets), Yes, Tasker is perfect cause it basically does everything for you.(even though i am pretty sure there are free apps exactly like Tasker)
(Sorry if this came off kinda rude I don't mean to flame at all just trying to say all of my opinion and back it up as best i can)
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this is still not acceptable for a phone in 2011 to still have that kind of battery, most people out there aren't really concerned about tweaking their phones or dont even know about it. Im not gonna use setCPU or anything else, i expect things just to work flawlessly out of the box.
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if this is the case, i don't think that an open-source phone is for you. the beauty of android is that anyone can personalize it and tinker with it.
the g2x is sort of like a muscle car- it has lots of [dual core]power, but the trade off is trying to manage battery life.
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I think the reason we have so much haptic feedback though is because we are lacking physical buttons and the small vibration gives us the sense of a solid keyboard even though as you stated everything is a touch screen. Well that is my 2 cents anyway.
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For the sake of min/maxing battery drain I would think toggling the vibrate after every input would help. I actually like the keyboard without it pulsing all the damn time. And my hearing might be a little sensitive to where I dislike the fart sounding vibrate motor. Haha.
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if this is the case, i don't think that an open-source phone is for you. the beauty of android is that anyone can personalize it and tinker with it.
the g2x is sort of like a muscle car- it has lots of [dual core]power, but the trade off is trying to manage battery life.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. This is exactly why I am a huge android supporter/early adopter, a car fanatic, and a Mechanical Engineering major. Because I love the individuality of it all and to be able to own something that can be unique to me.
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With all of these changes having a toggle for haptic feedback I assume would help a ton...considering its a touchscreen and a retardedly fast phone. Otherwise it vibrates on every damn user input. Just curious what others think about this. Anyways, thanks for this post....the forum is getting congested.
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I dont think turning off haptic feedback will really make to much of a difference in terms of battery use.
Our phones are dual core phones, in every test run dual core phones have less of a battery draw because two cpus is better then one. When dealing with a multicore phone/computer the device can have more power without using more energy because there is less stress on the cores. The old way was a bigger battery drainer then this because 1 core would have to use more energy to produce equal amount of power that a 2 core setup would. As spencer said and we have all been saying its more of a software issue then a hardware issue. Imagine loading a computer with 24gbs of memory and have an core i7-Xtream chipset and using windows 7 32bit its pretty much a waste. I believe a lot of the issues that everyone is experiencing will be fixed by a software update or the dev team when roms of the gingerbread nature come out.
Spencer nice post btw!
So I made this thread in the international forum by mistake so I figured id just make a separate one in the US forum
"So I have this phone on VZW and I love it. Recently I just got bored one day and decided to just crank up the phone to full brightness just to see what it was like....for the love of God my eyes had a mini orgasim!. It looks amazing! Now the reason I hate this is because I know full brightness is a huge battery killer and plus will drastically increase my chances on having a burn in =/ im so use to having my 4 hour screen time yet i know if i keep my phone like this my battery wil tank big time =/"
So I guess my main question is, is there currently anyone that runs their phone on full brightness? If so what kind of battery time are you getting on average along with screen on time?
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So I made this thread in the international forum by mistake so I figured id just make a separate one in the US forum
"So I have this phone on VZW and I love it. Recently I just got bored one day and decided to just crank up the phone to full brightness just to see what it was like....for the love of God my eyes had a mini orgasim!. It looks amazing! Now the reason I hate this is because I know full brightness is a huge battery killer and plus will drastically increase my chances on having a burn in =/ im so use to having my 4 hour screen time yet i know if i keep my phone like this my battery wil tank big time =/"
So I guess my main question is, is there currently anyone that runs their phone on full brightness? If so what kind of battery time are you getting on average along with screen on time?
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why dont you just test it
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So I made this thread in the international forum by mistake so I figured id just make a separate one in the US forum
"So I have this phone on VZW and I love it. Recently I just got bored one day and decided to just crank up the phone to full brightness just to see what it was like....for the love of God my eyes had a mini orgasim!. It looks amazing! Now the reason I hate this is because I know full brightness is a huge battery killer and plus will drastically increase my chances on having a burn in =/ im so use to having my 4 hour screen time yet i know if i keep my phone like this my battery wil tank big time =/"
So I guess my main question is, is there currently anyone that runs their phone on full brightness? If so what kind of battery time are you getting on average along with screen on time?
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I had 32% on 11hrs 38min off battery and 2hrs 56min of screen time before i put it back on the charger (work from home) but thats the best I've gotten. I hate auto brightness and always run at full.
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I use a brightness widget and keep it at 25% most of the time. Lasts almost all day if I am not playing games.
Outside and when showing it off 100%.
At night (when the wife is sleeping) 0% is too bright. That's my only complaint.
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I use a brightness widget and keep it at 25% most of the time. Lasts almost all day if I am not playing games.
Outside and when showing it off 100%.
At night (when the wife is sleeping) 0% is too bright. That's my only complaint.
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Download screen filter from the market. Complaint gone
Played with the SGS3 in the Verizon store...I used the settings app to turn the brightness up to Max and compared to my nexus..I noticed the nexus was brighter? Can anyone else confirm this?
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I don't know how you can stand looking at the screen on full brightness. For me, even back to my Fascinate, the SAMOLED(+)(HD) screens have been painfully bright (I get haloing on the white areas in particular) at 100%.
Also: SAMOLED(+)(HD) screens are artificially limited to 200nits to preserve the tiny little LEDs that make up the screen. They're actually capable of MUCH brighter, but that drastically reduces their lifetime/consistency.
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So I made this thread in the international forum by mistake so I figured id just make a separate one in the US forum
"So I have this phone on VZW and I love it. Recently I just got bored one day and decided to just crank up the phone to full brightness just to see what it was like....for the love of God my eyes had a mini orgasim!. It looks amazing! Now the reason I hate this is because I know full brightness is a huge battery killer and plus will drastically increase my chances on having a burn in =/ im so use to having my 4 hour screen time yet i know if i keep my phone like this my battery wil tank big time =/"
So I guess my main question is, is there currently anyone that runs their phone on full brightness? If so what kind of battery time are you getting on average along with screen on time?
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i made a tasker task, that chages brightness to my needs.
typically if im plugged in (AC or USB) its full bright & never turns off....great stuff
You must have a setting or something else going on, since it is plenty bright even at 50% and silly bright at 100%.
The first demo at a local VZW had a brightness issue as well, but they corrected it, or replaced it. Can't remember. Even at 100%, it was too dim.
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I don't know how you can stand looking at the screen on full brightness. For me, even back to my Fascinate, the SAMOLED(+)(HD) screens have been painfully bright (I get haloing on the white areas in particular) at 100%.
Also: SAMOLED(+)(HD) screens are artificially limited to 200nits to preserve the tiny little LEDs that make up the screen. They're actually capable of MUCH brighter, but that drastically reduces their lifetime/consistency.
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I don't ever remember reading anything about "tiny little LEDs" in my research of AMOLED technology. It is exactly what the name states, an "Active Matrix" of "Organic" compounds that respond to electrical impulses by emitting light. Sorry if I'm coming off like a **ck, not trying to, just sayin...
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I don't ever remember reading anything about "tiny little LEDs" in my research of AMOLED technology. It is exactly what the name states, an "Active Matrix" of "Organic" compounds that respond to electrical impulses by emitting light. Sorry if I'm coming off like a **ck, not trying to, just sayin...
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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. At what point is one element of an AMOLED screen NOT a "tiny little LED"? If you want to argue that we're not looking at discrete LEDs like you would find blinking away on the front of your computer, or even the indicator LED on the S3 and GNex, then yes, but you're pushing semantics much farther than the original point of my post, which was to note that the screen is kept at a maximum brightness that is much lower than the capabilities of the elements that make up the screen.
For all you guys who need the edge on battery, and dont need alot of screen brightness, like me, then try out this app on the play store called screen filter. (I am not affiliated with this in any way, I just like the way it works). What it does is apply a "film" over your screen going even lower than android screen brightness. Perfect for office setting (like me), at night when brightness is too much (laying in bed playing a game), or where bright lights might not be wanted (movie theater, work, etc...). I personally love it, I use it usually at 75% with the android brightness off, and everything is still visible, just that extra kick of brightness is gone. Sometimes I go down to 50%, but that gets me seeing my reflection just as well as the screen itself...
It also helps to keep out them creepers that try to look at your screen while sending private texts, pics, etc... Helps keep wandering eyes off of the fancy 4.8 super AMOLED display!
You can add widgets to custom brightness settings to suit yourself, I have 4 right on one of my screens that I use frequently!
I recommend this app to anyone and everyone!
It wont let me post links, but if you search "screen filter" it should be the first app. The logo has a white rectangle outlined in orange with a grey circle in the corner. Not too hard to find at all.
I'm almost positive that screen filter won't increase battery life. I think the phone basically "thinks" its still at a higher brightness than what you see, so it really doesn't improve battery life. I may be wrong though but I remember seeing that when I used it on my droid x.
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I'm almost positive that screen filter won't increase battery life. I think the phone basically "thinks" its still at a higher brightness than what you see, so it really doesn't improve battery life. I may be wrong though but I remember seeing that when I used it on my droid x.
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OLED pixels produce their own light (that is, without a separate backlight). Colors are made darker by dimming pixels. If the app makes what's being displayed on the screen darker, it should be helping battery life. The same reasoning applies to saving juice with dark backgrounds and inverted apps. It just only works on OLED screens and not backlit screen types.
Okay. I wasn't sure if I remembered correctly. Thanks!
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Lux Auto Brightness works a little better, in my opinion. It can go less than the screen's brightness without the filter look.
Hi guys,
A friends uses auto brightness, and only speaks ~ 20 minutes / day. A few browsing, reading e-mails, games, just got him at 2 days of usage. Not bad in my oppinion, but certainly they should have improved the battery.
To me it seems like the battery life is longer. My first week of use around 9 or so it would be in the red, but using it throughout the day, at 9 tonight it sits at 37%. Yes it will vary depending on use, but mine has been on battery 15h 30m and screen is only 18%. Cell standby is 30%, and chrome and facebook are each 11%. Everything else is quite small compared to those main apps used.
It seems to me it is helping, but it may not idk. I will continue to use it unless I run into a major issue with it.
gkrules said:
Lux Auto Brightness works a little better, in my opinion. It can go less than the screen's brightness without the filter look.
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+1 to Lux. Set your own brightness levels for various light levels. It can make the brightness very low, almost not visible.
TheLynxy said:
+1 to Lux. Set your own brightness levels for various light levels. It can make the brightness very low, almost not visible.
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Anyone have some good values for the automatic brightness settings? I just want to go dimmer across the board compared to stock but I'm confused with all the options so far lol
Alex_Hypnose said:
just got him at 2 days of usage. Not bad in my oppinion, but certainly they should have improved the battery.
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Lol two days of usage and you think the battery needs to be "improved"??
How good does it have to be before people don't complain about it??
jmorton10 said:
Lol two days of usage and you think the battery needs to be "improved"??
How good does it have to be before people don't complain about it??
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I would be happy to get 2 days of usage... I probably could get 1 and a quarter, but I charge mine every night to be safe. Really varies on how much I use it during the day. Some nights I plug it in with 10% others with 50%... I know its not the best for the battery, but I just plan on getting a new one when this one takes a crap. I have a feeling this phone will be around long enough that the option will still be available
XXchocolatetouchXX said:
but I charge mine every night to be safe. Really varies on how much I use it during the day. Some nights I plug it in with 10% others with 50%... I know its not the best for the battery
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That won't hurt the battery, I plug mine in every night also.
Thanks!
What I'd like
jmorton10 said:
Lol two days of usage and you think the battery needs to be "improved"??
How good does it have to be before people don't complain about it??
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What I would like is for my battery to last just *ONE* day. It doesn't do that. I don't mind charging it every night, but I'd prefer it last the day without me having to either charge it or switch batteries.
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nice find
nice find on this. i use inverted apps, and i like the way this works
I hate to say this but AOD might not be a good choice on this watch. I have had AOD on for the past 2 days and right not when i got a text i saw that some on the watch face was still on the screen. It wasnt excessive so im hoping it goes away but just letting you guys know that it can get burned in. And just incase youre wondering. I was using a stock watch face so its not a bad third party watch face. And final thing, on my past 2 smart watches you could tell when the watch face would shift every minute with AOD but with this watch it doesnt seem to shift the watch face at all.
I know Tizen states on their website that AOD does move pixels, but I'm sure it's harder for analog faces over digital and the size of the screen.
https://developer.tizen.org/design/wearable/watch-face
Scroll down to "Screen burn" and you'll see they state it moves.
Now I'm not saying it's not possible, in fact I myself don't trust the size of the screen and disable AOD on my watch.
ErickF said:
I hate to say this but AOD might not be a good choice on this watch. I have had AOD on for the past 2 days and right not when i got a text i saw that some on the watch face was still on the screen. It wasnt excessive so im hoping it goes away but just letting you guys know that it can get burned in. And just incase youre wondering. I was using a stock watch face so its not a bad third party watch face. And final thing, on my past 2 smart watches you could tell when the watch face would shift every minute with AOD but with this watch it doesnt seem to shift the watch face at all.
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Did the burn-in go away? Which watch face were you using?
Thankfully it did go away. It was the Urban Classic watch face. Looked so nice with AOD but not going to use it anymore
ErickF said:
Thankfully it did go away. It was the Urban Classic watch face. Looked so nice with AOD but not going to use it anymore
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I just turned my AOD off, just got it today, dont want to take a chance. Until we find out more
Plus with how fast the screen turns on when you raise your arm to look at it, don't really need it much.
ab30494 said:
I just turned my AOD off, just got it today, dont want to take a chance. Until we find out more
Plus with how fast the screen turns on when you raise your arm to look at it, don't really need it much.
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I tested the AOD with a third party watchface that i used to use with my gear s2 and i know that for sure it would move around every minute and the movements on the gear s3 were so small that most watchfaces should have an issue with it. Even the stock one. Defenetly dont use it for now. Hopefully they change it so that the watchface shifts as much as it did on the s2
Although AOD consumes battery life and may even result in screen burn, I think that it adds a great deal aesthetically, if not functionally, to the watch. For me, this is very important. Even if I have to charge it nightly or file a warranty claim.
afblangley said:
Although AOD consumes battery life and may even result in screen burn, I think that it adds a great deal aesthetically, if not functionally, to the watch. For me, this is very important. Even if I have to charge it nightly or file a warranty claim.
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I agree. Are burn ins covered by warranty for sure? If so the ill use it anyways because it looks much better with AOD
After 2 days?
HIGHLY unlikely. Almost impossible on any display.
And I've used AOD since I got the watch on release. No kind of screen issues.
I've had my watch for almost 4 weeks now and have used the AoD since then and I've not noticed any screen burn at all.
Fingers crossed it remains this way.
afblangley said:
Although AOD consumes battery life and may even result in screen burn, I think that it adds a great deal aesthetically, if not functionally, to the watch. For me, this is very important. Even if I have to charge it nightly or file a warranty claim.
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I agree with you 100%. I usually put my watch on the charger when I get home from work. It's anywhere from about 60 to 75% charged. That's with the brightness up a notch to 8 and AOD. I make no effort to conserve the battery. It charges up in an hour or two and I put it back on.
AOD is a must also. When I'm sitting at my bench I can just glance down and see the time, no wrist flick needed. My guess it will take a very long time for any kind of burn in. By that time the next latest and greatest will be out.
I also work in a heavy industrial area, I have yet to damage this thing but it's going to happen. By the time there is any screen burn it will probably be low on the list of defects.
my wrist flick only works only half the time. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any suggestions on how I should be flicking my wrist?
You don't have to "flick" your wrist. It's just the rotation of your arm. You can do it slow or fast. Just turn your arm round to show your watchface.
I feel the same way. Had the watch about 3 weeks now and AOD on since. No issues here. I even have a 3rd party face.
I guess ill try it again after a factory reset. Hopefully it was just a glitch for me.
Good morning, I'm noticing an excessive consumption when AOD use, about 1% every 30 minutes, AOD off the battery might not go down every hour or more. I am connected to iPhone 7+ I have everything turned off except Bluetooth, use face Samsung Watch Dashboard Gear. also consumes too much energy in AOD with brightness at minimum.
It completely depends which watch face you are using. They all have different AOD faces, and use different amounts of power.
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Good morning, I'm noticing an excessive consumption when AOD use, about 1% every 30 minutes, AOD off the battery might not go down every hour or more. I am connected to iPhone 7+ I have everything turned off except Bluetooth, use face Samsung Watch Dashboard Gear. also consumes too much energy in AOD with brightness at minimum.
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1%/30min. is normal. That's 2%/hour which means you will have about 50h (two full days). It is the same most of us get out of it with AOD
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If you are worried about burn in use faces that don't have a lot of colors that include blue( purple, white, etc). The lifetime of the blue emitter on OLED is the least by far and is most susceptible to degradation (burn). The lifetimes of red and green emitters are much longer so colors that use those are not likely to burn.
Display orbiting only helps a little, instead of burning a lot in a small spot you will burn a little in a larger spot.
Blue is also the least power efficient, it takes more power to light a blue emitter to the same brightness as red or green. So faces with a lot of blue in them (or colors containing blue) will drain the battery faster.
Since the S3 is new, we're all speculating on the possibility of screen burn. But the S2 has been out for a year. Are there any S2 users who have experienced this problem?