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How to make JAC's Hero faster...

Now that I have your attention, to make it Sense UI run faster, UNDERCLOCK it with overclock widget (the red/blue icon one) to 383mhz and let the phone accustomize to that speed for 2-3 minutes and the phone definitely runs faster. Or at least it did for me.
I run Swapper at 32mb/10 swappiness w/ the clock/weather and twitter widget, plus 6 icons, the overclock widget, and the wifi toggle widget and have noticed a HUGE difference in the past 24 hours since I first started running the underclock.
Don't ask cause I can't explain how this is either...
My next "quest" for better performance is to try w/o Swapper.

Heard about underclocking helping performance on hero before.... Ill try it out for a day and see what happens....

screwthe49ers said:
Now that I have your attention, to make it Sense UI run faster, UNDERCLOCK it with overclock widget (the red/blue icon one) to 383mhz and let the phone accustomize to that speed for 2-3 minutes and the phone definitely runs faster. Or at least it did for me.
I run Swapper at 32mb/10 swappiness w/ the clock/weather and twitter widget, plus 6 icons, the overclock widget, and the wifi toggle widget and have noticed a HUGE difference in the past 24 hours since I first started running the underclock.
Don't ask cause I can't explain how this is either...
My next "quest" for better performance is to try w/o Swapper.
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Your right, seems weird but underclocking definately improves overall performance.
i posted a similiar suggestion in "the problem with hero" thread, as underclocking also solves the sms issue

A better tweak would be to add this to you init.rc:
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write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold 40
write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice_load 1
write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/sampling_rate 200000
What this does is allow the CPU frequency to ramp up much faster.

cyanogen said:
A better tweak would be to add this to you init.rc:
Code:
write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold 40
write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice_load 1
write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/sampling_rate 200000
What this does is allow the CPU frequency to ramp up much faster.
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So, what you're saying what you suggested would do what a standard overclocker app is intended to do, albeit with better results?
BTW, the script you wrote, enter it in terminal emulator?

screwthe49ers said:
So, what you're saying what you suggested would do what a standard overclocker app is intended to do, albeit with better results?
BTW, the script you wrote, enter it in terminal emulator?
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Now, you have to add that to the init.rc file.

KyleK29 said:
Now, you have to add that to the init.rc file.
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I'm adb ignorant, so I'm guessing it involves using adb, or if not, exactly how is that done? What program do you use to open/edit init.rc?

screwthe49ers said:
I'm adb ignorant, so I'm guessing it involves using adb, or if not, exactly how is that done? What program do you use to open/edit init.rc?
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depends. The init.rc is in the boot.img.
You would have to extract the ramdisk from the boot.img, uncpio it, edit the init.rc file, repack the boot.img and either fastboot the boot.img or put it in an update package and reflash.
I can edit the init.rc.

ccyrowski said:
depends. The init.rc is in the boot.img.
You would have to extract the ramdisk from the boot.img, uncpio it, edit the init.rc file, repack the boot.img and either fastboot the boot.img or put it in an update package and reflash.
I can edit the init.rc.
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So it looks like you would use notepad to add it to the file?
Or, couldn't you use root explorer on the phone itself to make the changes?

Time to PM Drizzy and JAC.

harpreet1988 said:
Time to PM Drizzy and JAC.
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I already hit up cyanogen!

already on it haha

justanothercrowd said:
already on it haha
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Let us know if it works, since it'd be so easy to make the change using root explorer.

harpreet1988 said:
Time to PM Drizzy and JAC.
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ahha seriously.

johnnylicious said:
ahha seriously.
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You wanna try making the file edit? It's so tempting!!

screwthe49ers said:
You wanna try making the file edit? It's so tempting!!
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i wished i knew how sorry lol

johnnylicious said:
i wished i knew how sorry lol
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It looks like root explorer could do it...
I'm about to try it myself.
Will post back with results asap.
DON'T DO THIS!!!

You know I am using setcpu and I had it set to max 528 but I changed it to 384, left it for a few minutes and now I am playing with it and it does feel a little snappier. I wonder why that is. I remember some discussion about overclocking and the restriction of the hardware/OS bottlenecking the processor at a certain point. Would this have something to do with it, or maybe it's just psychosomatic, we believe that it's faster so it feels that way. A placebo affect maybe
Edit: I also found that using Advanced Task Manager differently helped. I used to have it kill all process and it would feel like my phone would bog down afterwards. So I tried using it without killing anything and it felt snappier. So I set it up to leave the background processes and just kill apps that I exit out of and it feels a little better. Just FYI for anyone else that uses a task manager

Do we set max and min both to 384, or the default max 384, min 245?

harpreet1988 said:
Do we set max and min both to 384, or the default max 384, min 245?
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Set 384 to the max. You can set the minimum to 245 to save a little on battery, or set it to 384 as well to eliminate the "hibernation" mode, like on a pc.

overclockwidget.

Hey guys I am using overclock widget setting it to 1200000 Max 1000000 min screen on 500000 / 200000 screen off
and this tablet flies, and YouTube app works a lot better now as well

will you post teh apk please?

ijustbrickeditithink said:
will you post teh apk please?
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Sure but its free via market just have to plug in overclockwidget no spaces ill post it when I get home though as well

I'm thinking that the CPU doesn't run at it's Max speed normally

This worked for me as well this thing is flying! akodoreign thanks

it wont install on my tab, what are you running?
i got CM6b3

nice
nice I tryed it ...and it works on stock with root

eluminx said:
it wont install on my tab, what are you running?
i got CM6b3
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Zpad is what I am running

SetCPU does not work on the gtab, this does though?

It looks like setCPU wants to work but can't autoconfigure for this device... it offers to load the settings from a file or choose correct device, of course nothing is really close...
Overclock Widget doesn't want to work on Stock TNT install as says it only works on HTC G1 or G2...
For anyone who got overclock widget to work, does it write a settings file and if so can you please post a copy... think if that's in place then maybe it will work on stock...

catttman said:
nice I tryed it ...and it works on stock with root
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For some reason i can not download from links on my gtablet from this forum....it immediately says , download unsuccessful... any ideas?
Thanks

catttman said:
nice I tryed it ...and it works on stock with root
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"you don't have a g1/g2 only works with that" is what i get from the one posted. the one from the market installed and works.... i think. it just says 1999 all the time and after i set the clock speed everytime i open back up the widget it has dropped back down to 1000000. not sure if this is working

Crimton said:
"you don't have a g1/g2 only works with that" is what i get from the one posted. the one from the market installed and works.... i think. it just says 1999 all the time and after i set the clock speed everytime i open back up the widget it has dropped back down to 1000000. not sure if this is working
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As someone who used it with evo, it always. Says weird things on the widget. It's. Working fine

akodoreign said:
As someone who used it with evo, it always. Says weird things on the widget. It's. Working fine
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that may be but how can you verify the cpu is actually overclocked, system panel doesn't detect the cpu for me so can't tell there. whenever i set it at 1.2 then save and exit, when i return it is back down at very low setting. it won't stay overclocked, for me anyways.

where did you get the overclock kernel to set it over 1ghz?

I don't think its actually overclocking the CPU bit it does allow you to change frequencies under 1000. Try running linpack when you make changes and you'll notice that it only works up to 1000.
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Set cpu doesn't overclock by its self if I remember correctly. It gives you manual control the scaling of the cpu. On the droid and other devices a kernel module is used to add overclocking support. You can search overclock.ko to find info on it. I think this module has to be modified for each device it is used on.
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xmr405o said:
where did you get the overclock kernel to set it over 1ghz?
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If you go to user defined in advanced settings its right there. remember with overclock you have to save settings for it to work (in advanced). It actually goes up to like 1.25 ghz but I think the processor is only 1.2 so use at own risk at that high of a boost.

amathophobia said:
Set cpu doesn't overclock by its self if I remember correctly. It gives you manual control the scaling of the cpu. On the droid and other devices a kernel module is used to add overclocking support. You can search overclock.ko to find info on it. I think this module has to be modified for each device it is used on.
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This is correct. The kernels that we are running are not likely to be capable of overclocking. To anyone claiming that the overclock widget is working, could you please do some benchmarking in an application like Linpack or Quadrant?
Until Viewsonic releases source code that would allow us to compile our own kernel, we will not be able to get any where with proper performance improvements; CFS/BFS, overclocking, improved multitouch, etc.

Lancealot said:
This is correct. The kernels that we are running are not likely to be capable of overclocking. To anyone claiming that the overclock widget is working, could you please do some benchmarking in an application like Linpack or Quadrant?
Until Viewsonic releases source code that would allow us to compile our own kernel, we will not be able to get any where with proper performance improvements; CFS/BFS, overclocking, improved multitouch, etc.
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Youtube app without it stutter pause play repeat. With its smooth so it passes the YouTube bench

[Q] Will deleting an overclock app reset clock speed?

Ok, so, on my LG Vortex (rooted) its getting to the point I can't even play angry birds, too laggy. I'm poor, try to save money whenever possible, so I got a free overclock app that looked promising, and wasn't a demo/trial.
Market Link
It works great, however, just setting the clock speed up one level, my phone's getting really warm, and its unnerving me. I'd rather not have to replace it. Thing is tho, I've changed a lot of options, trying to find a good balance, but its been a few days so I don't exactly remember what the defaults were. So, my question is, if I delete the app, will it reset my CPU MHz? And if not, how would i set it back to normal?
Thanks for any help you guys can provide.

Everything should get set back to defaults if you uninstall the app. Another way would be to go to settings->applications->manage applications->overclockwidget->clear cache and data->reboot.
If you want to try a different free app to adjust the cpu speed, there's CPUBoostLite which has a widget which shows the cpu speed and battery temp. Another would be No-Frills CPU Control but does not show the batt temp. An app like Battery Monitor Widget can though along with the battery's current(mA) draw.

MongooseHelix said:
Everything should get set back to defaults if you uninstall the app. Another way would be to go to settings->applications->manage applications->overclockwidget->clear cache and data->reboot.
If you want to try a different free app to adjust the cpu speed, there's CPUBoostLite which has a widget which shows the cpu speed and battery temp. Another would be No-Frills CPU Control but does not show the batt temp. An app like Battery Monitor Widget can though along with the battery's current(mA) draw.
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If the app achieved the overclock by altering a system file, uninstalling the app will not change anything.
File changes made by an application will not get reverted on their uninstallation.
The app doesn't have a revert function?

Dark3n said:
If the app achieved the overclock by altering a system file, uninstalling the app will not change anything.
File changes made by an application will not get reverted on their uninstallation.
The app doesn't have a revert function?
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If the cpu speed isn't getting "set on boot" then each reboot will restore to default values. If it is, then either uninstalling or clearing the app's data will prevent that from occurring. The kernel/ramdisk(boot.img) resets the cpu to whatever is set as the default which is why apps like setcpu or cm7 cpu controls use the "set on boot" option to retain settings through a reboot.
Off-topic but your SD Maid app is great Dark3n. Been using it for a while now with the unlocker.

I had set on reboot checked for a while, but not anymore. Would that change anything?

mtmerrick said:
I had set on reboot checked for a while, but not anymore. Would that change anything?
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That option, if checked, just makes it so whatever values you set survive through a reboot. Basically used once a good set up is found so you won't have to redo it each time. However, with it set you run the risk of getting into a bootloop if you overclock too much as you wouldn't be able to lower it. So always make sure the phone is stable before having the changes set on boot.

MongooseHelix said:
If the cpu speed isn't getting "set on boot" then each reboot will restore to default values. If it is, then either uninstalling or clearing the app's data will prevent that from occurring. The kernel/ramdisk(boot.img) resets the cpu to whatever is set as the default which is why apps like setcpu or cm7 cpu controls use the "set on boot" option to retain settings through a reboot.
Off-topic but your SD Maid app is great Dark3n. Been using it for a while now with the unlocker.
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Thanks ;-).
I thought about it like changing density in the build.prop, is this not possible with clock speed?

Dark3n said:
I thought about it like changing density in the build.prop, is this not possible with clock speed?
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The settings to change are located in:
Code:
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/
The familiar ones are scaling_max_freq, scaling_min_freq, scaling_governor, or governor specific setting in a directory named after the governor(i.e. ondemand/up_threshold)

so, wipe app data, uninstall, and reboot, and i'll be good to go? or is there a step i'm missing?

mtmerrick said:
so, wipe app data, uninstall, and reboot, and i'll be good to go? or is there a step i'm missing?
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You only really need to either uninstall it or wipe it's data to get back to defaults. Uninstalling is probably the simplest and most effective and you can always install it back on or another app to play with over/underclocking.

Thanks guys, you rock. For future reference, what would you guys say the best paid and best free overclock apps are?

mtmerrick said:
Thanks guys, you rock. For future reference, what would you guys say the best paid and best free overclock apps are?
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Someone else will have to chime in since these days I just use cyanogenmod's built-in cpu settings. I suspect most would recommend setCPU(Paid)...it's certainly the most popular. As far as a free app, I'd personally try No-frills CPU Control. People seem to like it and it has a nice safety feature of auto-disabling set on boot if the phone doesn't shut down properly(ie crashes).

I'd have CM7 if my Vortex were supported. >_>
Thanks for the suggestions, I thanked the best posts.
And I'll let you know how everything worked out after i use it for a day or two.

[MOD] IncrediControl - Easy GUI Voltage Control

Please read this post through thoroughly before downloading.
This app allows you to control your CPU voltages with an easy to use interface. You can increase or decrease voltages (undervolt or overvolt) for all frequencies or fine tune voltages for each individual frequency.
! HTC DEVICES, currently only single core devices are supported !
! ROOT is Required !
! Kernel that supports HAVS or SVS voltage adjustment REQUIRED !
Get it over at http://www.incredikernel.com
IncrediControl is now also available in the market:
IncrediControl
IncrediControl - Ad Free
Additionally, all donators are eligible to receive the Ad Free version. It doesn't matter how much or how little you donate or have donated. If you don't want to purchase the app from the market, you may donate using the button on this page. Please register on the site first and include your username in the comments box.
All previous donators, please register on the site if you have not done so and contact me with your username!
NOTE: The settings in the general tab are only functional in kernels that have implemented the simple sysfs interfaces for usb fast charging and audio boost. The tab will not show up if your kernel does not have these features. If you would like your kernel dev to implement the interfaces, please direct them to these two commits:
https://github.com/Chad0989/android_kernel_common/commit/a7c21fa0391c225900f93960362535179c0cecc9
https://github.com/Chad0989/android_kernel_common/commit/41dc138bae23dc7582de72a4d9895aaa8e1f8b2d
NOTE2: It is a requirement of the voltage adjustment that the kernel you are using has either the HAVS or SVS sysfs interface implemented. If it does not, it will not work.
NOTE3: Before using, please delete any boot scripts you may have in /etc/init.d that toggle any of the settings this app controls.
Get it at http://www.incredikernel.com
Restore script - use this if you went too low and find yourself in a boot loop. Flash through recovery:
http://www.incredikernel.com/?p=229

maybe is good thing to post which kernel for desire s can use this.many users have no idea what kernel supports HAVS or SVS voltage adjustment..its just few of them actualy so u can maybe check and let us know.

Tiamat 1.0.4 does. I don't see any other recent ones listed on the forum here. If you give me a link to other kernels I'll check for you. No stock kernel does (this includes the default cm7 kernel).

check virtuous rom
kernel is unity v2 ...i think.

Adidas108 said:
check virtuous rom
kernel is unity v2 ...i think.
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It appears that that kernel does not support the interface. If you're willing to test for me, I can pull the source for that kernel, implement the interface and submit a patch to the developer for inclusion. Just let me know if you would be willing to test for me.
EDIT: I got bored, so here:
http://chad0989.dyndns.org/mirror/unitykernel_sysfs.zip
Let me know if it works, make sure you have another kernel downloaded that you can flash in the event that this one doesn't boot.

tried the kernel. works a treat. thanks!
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lowered all the voltages twice. tried three times and it crashed. stable on lowering twice. haven't experimented with each of them individually though
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dan-fish said:
lowered all the voltages twice. tried three times and it crashed. stable on lowering twice. haven't experimented with each of them individually though
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It takes a lot of trial and error to get the best voltage table. It would be great if when you get a pretty good one, you could post it here so that others may use it as a starting point.

mind making the tiamat kernal works too?

tcchuin said:
mind making the tiamat kernal works too?
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Tiamat 1.0.4 should work with it already.

IncrediControl v1.3
Major changes include:
Ad Free has now been turned into a key that removes the ads from the free version. This allows donors who have downloaded the ad free version from the site to update through the market.
HAVS voltage checking. Minimum voltages can no longer be set higher than maximum voltages.
Boot voltages are now stored in the application’s data directory. Boot settings will now persist if you update your ROM or restore the application and data from a backup.

si, is this a replacement for SetCPU? What other features does it have?

shrome99 said:
si, is this a replacement for SetCPU? What other features does it have?
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It's not a replacement for set cpu at the moment. But in the future I'm adding CPU speed and governor control. As well as the ability to fine tune each governor.
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Can someone post a screenshot of their HTC Incredible voltage table?
Also, does this app obsolete the USB fast charge boot script? (http://www.incredikernel.com/wp-con...-monitor/download.php?id=enablefastcharge.zip) i.e. Should I delete that script after installing this app and enabling the USB check box in the general tab?

2 more: What does audio boost do? Why are the "enable on boot" checkboxes reset to unchecked each time the app is opened?

slapmeaty said:
Can someone post a screenshot of their HTC Incredible voltage table?
Also, does this app obsolete the USB fast charge boot script? (http://www.incredikernel.com/wp-con...-monitor/download.php?id=enablefastcharge.zip) i.e. Should I delete that script after installing this app and enabling the USB check box in the general tab?
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Might be better off posting in the incredible thread next time, so we can keep this one desire discussion. But yes, you no longer need that script and are safe to delete it.
Audio boost is louder in call volume.
The check boxes uncheck themselves as a fail safe for users. I know a lot of users will leave it checked and then adjust voltages too low and end up in boot loops. This way if someone is playing with voltages, they aren't set on boot unless they explicitly click the set on boot box and click apply. If you have previously set on boot voltages, those will remain until you check the box again and click apply, then the previously set on boot voltages will be overwritten with the new ones. In the general tab, the box unchecks itself also just to be consistent with the behavior in the voltage adjustment tab.

Thx. (Apologies for wrong forum - tapatalk ui hides a lot of info)
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IncrediControl v1.4:
This is mostly a bug fix release but I have also added:
Automatic detection of the minimum and maximum voltages supported by your kernel
Unless any more bugs arise, the next release will have some new goodies to play with...
http://www.incredikernel.com or from the market.

very interesting thing.
Does some made any test how much it affect battery life, is it worth of playing ?

Ok so i installed this but i can only see the SVS tab. No general tab. Why is that?
Oh nvm finally understood the first post.

Is it possible to change CPU governor based on battery percentage?

I have a rooted device with Franco Kernel Manager. Would it be possible to have it change CPU governor based on battery percentage?
Also, if this involves scripts, how could I translate Linux scripts for battery percentages on laptops to an android kernel?

fastrespawn said:
I have a rooted device with Franco Kernel Manager. Would it be possible to have it change CPU governor based on battery percentage?
Also, if this involves scripts, how could I translate Linux scripts for battery percentages on laptops to an android kernel?
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Yes, if you have a custom kernel that supports "overclocking/underclocking" or "overvolt/undervolt" you can change the performance and power consumption of the CPU. There are root apps that are made to manage kernel settings, values and features but I'm not up to speed on the apps being used to do this these days because it has been a few years since I've used custom kernels with overclocking support.

fastrespawn said:
I have a rooted device with Franco Kernel Manager. Would it be possible to have it change CPU governor based on battery percentage?
Also, if this involves scripts, how could I translate Linux scripts for battery percentages on laptops to an android kernel?
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What CPU governor is to be used is read by Android's kernel from a system file when device boots up. Hence it should be obvious that it requires a device's reboot when governor setting got changed to become effective: an automated on-the-fly change what you might have in mind isn't possible, IMO.

fastrespawn said:
I have a rooted device with Franco Kernel Manager. Would it be possible to have it change CPU governor based on battery percentage?
Also, if this involves scripts, how could I translate Linux scripts for battery percentages on laptops to an android kernel?
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Possible with Tasker for sure. Try with ThunderTweaks plugin if possible but I guess there are tons of ways to sort it out other than that.

jwoegerbauer said:
What CPU governor is to be used is read by Android's kernel from a system file when device boots up. Hence it should be obvious that it requires a device's reboot when governor setting got changed to become effective: an automated on-the-fly change what you might have in mind isn't possible, IMO.
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Sorry, but changing governor "on the fly" and setting it to persist after a reboot is definitely possible, not only possible, but easy, at the touch of a button. I used custom kernels and kernel management apps for years and what you say "isn't possible" was actually a standard capability.
All that was required was root, a custom kernel that supported overvolt/undervolt, governor changes and permissive mode along with an app such as the Kernel Aduitor app. The Kernel Aduitor app had many different features that could be used to manage many different aspects of kernel/device performance.

dedq said:
Possible with Tasker for sure. Try with ThunderTweaks plugin if possible but I guess there are tons of ways to sort it out other than that.
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I'll give tasker a try. I don't even need to change the CPU governor if I can automote a task that switches CPU to lower frequencies at x battery level and increase then again after the battery recharge a bit

Droidriven said:
Sorry, but changing governor "on the fly" and setting it to persist after a reboot is definitely possible, not only possible, but easy, at the touch of a button. I used custom kernels and kernel management apps for years and what you say "isn't possible" was actually a standard capability.
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Why not correctly read my posts, but instead steadily blame me for telling nonsense? Looks to me this is almost a compulsive neurosis ...

jwoegerbauer said:
Why not correctly read my posts, but instead steadily blame me for telling nonsense? Looks to me this is almost a compulsive neurosis ...
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Maybe I misunderstood, no one is perfect.

fastrespawn said:
I'll give tasker a try. I don't even need to change the CPU governor if I can automote a task that switches CPU to lower frequencies at x battery level and increase then again after the battery recharge a bit
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Yes, you would get better results by changing frequency than you would by changing governor. And, it would not require a reboot to enact the frequency change.