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What the HTC Incredible S, Experia Arc, myTouch HD and Inspire 4G have in common

**Update: The just announced HTC Incredible S has the same processor, same amount of RAM, same amount of Internal phone storage as well.
The Inspire 4G isn't looking that ancient anymore is it, yeah no dual core but that's another weight class altogether.
----->> http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-Incredible-S_id5229/fullspecs
CPU: 32 bit Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255/Qualcomm Scorpion
Graphical Controller: Qualcomm Adreno 205
Youre going to see a Quadrant benchmark score of around: 2055 (highest recorded value) and much more after its rooted, overclocked and flashed with a custom rom down the line.
Heres a video of the real deal in action using the Quadrant benchmark app:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXbRKbnUUr0
Someone has achieved a score of 2432 with the following using their Desire HD: Cyanogen RC2, Buzz kernel OC/UV and 1.22 GHz o/c by 22%
The above results indicate its only a few points under a stock LG Optimus 2X (Quadrant benchmark of 2514) which has a dual core... this is saying ALOT.
What the HTC Incredible S, Experia Arc, myTouch HD and Inspire 4G have in common

Direct copy paste of the review for the Sony Ericsson XPERIA Arc
"As far as general performance is concerned the Sony Ericsson XPERIA Arc does splendidly. It’s powered by a Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon System-on-a-chip featuring a 1 GHz Scorpion CPU and the Adreno 205 GPU. Yet the further optimizations brought by Gingerbread helps it do a bit better than the Desire HD at the CPU benchmarks.
Even at this early stage the XPERIA Arc is getting some excellent score on popular benchmarks
But it’s not so much synthetic benchmarks that should concern you – it’s the real life performance that matter here and the XPERIA Arc feels as smooth as butter. Even at these early stages of its development the handset didn’t treat us to any irritating lags or nasty holdups, which is really promising to say the least."
(legend221 says: "Its more than likely Gingerbread will be coming to the Inspire 4G down the line either from those amazing xda devs or directly from HTC")
Video of early Gingerbread development with the Desire HD/Inspire 4G:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5TR_5OERFY

How will this compare with what could be done with the Atrix? I am assuming it will be locked down but will the stock dual core and GPU they are using be comparable to what will be done with a rooted and rom'd Inspire?

awtryau89 said:
How will this compare with what could be done with the Atrix? I am assuming it will be locked down but will the stock dual core and GPU they are using be comparable to what will be done with a rooted and rom'd Inspire?
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I will have to wait and see what the Quadrant score is and compare.
Regardless, if its Motorola its going to be trouble and a lot more risky to manipulate than a trusty HTC device.
That's why I'm so adamant about the XDA community... we have soo much talent not even the manufacturers can officially release anything that compares to the custom Roms we are graced with.
Looking forward in seeing how the Inspire 4G develops.
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Going to do a Quadrant score and post it later today as well.... looking forward to it!

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Going to do a Quadrant score and post it later today as well.... looking forward to it!
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Just ran a Quadrant score and received a 1786 and for comparison see the photo below taken from the net
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The Atrix quadrant run I saw had a result of 2500+. That thing is powerful for sure. The good thing about a March 6 release is that I'd be within my 30 days if I decide to go from Inspire to Atrix. Personally, I prefer Sense to Blur but the hardware is tough to ignore.

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The Atrix quadrant run I saw had a result of 2500+. That thing is powerful for sure. The good thing about a March 6 release is that I'd be within my 30 days if I decide to go from Inspire to Atrix. Personally, I prefer Sense to Blur but the hardware is tough to ignore.
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With a bit of OverClock, a custom Rom and some and Kernel love we are up there, just a few points under the over hyped Atrix 4G
This is what a Desire HD scores with the options below:
Model
HTC Desire HD
Benchmark App
Quadrant
Score
2432
OS
Android 2.2
Customization
Cyanogen RC2, Buzz kernel OC/UV
CPU
Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255
CPU Clock
1.22 GHz o/c by 22%
GPU
Adreno 205

The HD2 has the same guts as the Inspire and look at its highest score, WOW
The potential is most definitely there, see direct quote below:
"Posted 12 January 2011 - 04:24 AM
I have a non android phone, T-mobile HD2, Converted to android, running 2.2 androind. This build is the NAND SuperRam from Dark Stone and is where I have managed to achieve on quadrant a score of 3692!!!! I am also NOT over clocked AT ALL! This is stock setting that he has for the build."

As most of that score comes from IO I assume that the NAND being used is just much faster then most other phones.

zizux said:
As most of that score comes from IO I assume that the NAND being used is just much faster then most other phones.
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You got that right, this phone is the best Android to be under AT&T so far.
Posted yesterday, Quadrant score: 1786

[Q] Gaming Capabilities?

Hello
Will the sensation be better for playing games than the SGS 2, which needs games to be updated before they can play on the mali400? I hoping apps and games don't have to be recoded/reprogrammed to work on the adreno 220, if they work/play fine on the adreno 205?
Thanks
Ian

Not 100% sure but I think the problem with the SGS2 is that the Mali400 GPU doesn't support any form of texture compression. So any games that use texture compression needs to be recompiled and have the textures modified.
The Sensation should not have the same problem since the adreno 220 is just the next gen of the 205 and should be backward compatible.

benchmark
Any new benchmarks comparing ADRENO 220 with MAli 400
i've seen a benchmark for an overclocked CPU with ADRENO 220 (clocked at 1.5 GHz). This does not give a good comparison as the real life sensation will be clocked at 1.2 GHz
Also any new overall benchmarks for the sensation, the old ones scored horrible 1200 pts. People are saying this is because the preliminary firmware is using only one core, but they did not post any reference proving their claim

RADLOUNI said:
Any new benchmarks comparing ADRENO 220 with MAli 400
i've seen a benchmark for an overclocked CPU with ADRENO 220 (clocked at 1.5 GHz). This does not give a good comparison as the real life sensation will be clocked at 1.2 GHz
Also any new overall benchmarks for the sensation, the old ones scored horrible 1200 pts. People are saying this is because the preliminary firmware is using only one core, but they did not post any reference proving their claim
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Wtf are you saying -_- ? String a complete coherent sentence together, damn no child left behind...
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RADLOUNI said:
Any new benchmarks comparing ADRENO 220 with MAli 400
i've seen a benchmark for an overclocked CPU with ADRENO 220 (clocked at 1.5 GHz). This does not give a good comparison as the real life sensation will be clocked at 1.2 GHz
Also any new overall benchmarks for the sensation, the old ones scored horrible 1200 pts. People are saying this is because the preliminary firmware is using only one core, but they did not post any reference proving their claim
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What you're saying is not entirely true.
The 1.5 GHz is the chip's default speed (check Qualcomm's website) - the benchmark was of the Qualcomm development unit (MDP). The Sensation uses an underclock probably to reserve battery life.
Keep in mind, and I'm basing it entirely on tidbits I hear here and there on this forum and on tech blogs, that Qualcomm CPUs tend to get higher overclock speeds than the competition (or at least those who do it make more noise ).
As for the early benchmark - I was able to play with a similar device in question, software version 0.50.something, and yes - it was horrid. I ran Neocore just for laughs and it got 5 FPS. Later on I had a few minutes with one running 1.05 (not the final 1.20 that was leaked) and Neocore got 59.9. Wish I could upload a screenshot, but if I did I'd probably get fired (it has the confidential watermark with the serial number on it, which could than trace it directly to me).
Do take the above with a grain of salt - this is the internet and at the moment I have no way to give solid proof that what I said is true - you can just take my word for it (which if you're smart - you won't).
I will say this though - I have already pre-ordered one.

I think the Qualcomm cpus are the most efficent by far. My dhd runs undervolted all the way up to 1.2ghz and overvolts upto 1.6ghz, we have a stable 2ghz kernel atm too, my phone has never felt warm or hot. So it wouldn't surprise me if it was natural running at 1.5ghz.
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Trekest said:
What you're saying is not entirely true.
The 1.5 GHz is the chip's default speed (check Qualcomm's website) - the benchmark was of the Qualcomm development unit (MDP). The Sensation uses an underclock probably to reserve battery life.
Keep in mind, and I'm basing it entirely on tidbits I hear here and there on this forum and on tech blogs, that Qualcomm CPUs tend to get higher overclock speeds than the competition (or at least those who do it make more noise ).
As for the early benchmark - I was able to play with a similar device in question, software version 0.50.something, and yes - it was horrid. I ran Neocore just for laughs and it got 5 FPS. Later on I had a few minutes with one running 1.05 (not the final 1.20 that was leaked) and Neocore got 59.9. Wish I could upload a screenshot, but if I did I'd probably get fired (it has the confidential watermark with the serial number on it, which could than trace it directly to me).
Do take the above with a grain of salt - this is the internet and at the moment I have no way to give solid proof that what I said is true - you can just take my word for it (which if you're smart - you won't).
I will say this though - I have already pre-ordered one.
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If the neocore was that fast, that'll do me nicely one other question, will the sensation struggle to play resource heavy games with the ram only being 768mb?
Thanks
Ian

Beaker491 said:
If the neocore was that fast, that'll do me nicely one other question, will the sensation struggle to play resource heavy games with the ram only being 768mb?
Thanks
Ian
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No it will not heavy emulator rely more on the CPU than the gpu. Look at computer you can have a crappy gpu and an I7 processor would play an xbox Wii emulator just fine. Mytouch 4g plays n64 emulator just fine.
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hmmm... honestly its what resources the games use because i have seen bench marks of the intel i5, i7 vs the amd phenom 2 x4 and the scores were quite similar because of the gpu... so i would take everything said with a bit of salt

[INFO] Sensation NEW Benchmark Scores

Hey I thought it would be cool to just have a seperate thread for this so people can stop asking so much al throughout the other threads.
I've seen 2342 so far on the released version compared to the model in prerelease which was 1300 score. Thats a very fast speed.
Post yall quadrant scores here.

Remember also that all who view this the sensation has a qhd screen.
Makes a difference.
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And as I've been reading on other topics there might be a incompatibility problem due to two cores. It's new chipset and has different architecture etc. Lets give it some time.

mr.orange303 said:
Remember also that all who view this the sensation has a qhd screen.
Makes a difference.
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really? I wonder what goes into that technology. I kind of wanted the screen to be a full size 4.3 inch screen.. with the width the same size as the evo. I just love the space u get

I got a very low 1589 on the first Quadrant...

samjpullen said:
I got a very low 1589 on the first Quadrant...
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Do you prefer SGS 2 after using both? I'm asking because of your signature.

samjpullen said:
I got a very low 1589 on the first Quadrant...
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In real world testing. Can you feel lag at all?
Coming from the g2x. Its almost lag free. But has other problems.
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not accurate
Figure_desire said:
And as I've been reading on other topics there might be a incompatibility problem due to two cores. It's new chipset and has different architecture etc. Lets give it some time.
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Helllo
People have been saying that the sensation is getting low scores because benchmark programs are not designed to test both cores.
I find that most people are throwing around nothing but assumptions for reasons i really cannot understand. Do you know for a fact whether those benchmark programs are optimized only for one core, or is your enthusiasm for the sensation subconsciously pushing you to say that ?????????????
The author of smartbench has posted a comment on another thread in this forum that one of the main reasons smartbench 2010 was pulled out and smartbench 2011 released was testing dual core phones. he added that he does not know why is the sensation getting such low scores as compared to other dual core phone, but will investigate and come back.
So irrespective of my personal preference to HTC phones, and if smartbench author cannot find a bug in his smartbench 2011 leading to low scores on sensation, i have to say that the sensation CPU does not seem to be at the same performance level as other dual core phones
check post #239
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081531&page=24

That's on the low end compared to other qHD devices but not bad.
Any other benchmarks with the final release?

Figure_desire said:
Do you prefer SGS 2 after using both? I'm asking because of your signature.
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First impression is yes, but i have only had to play with the Sensation for about 8hrs or so
mr.orange303 said:
In real world testing. Can you feel lag at all?
Coming from the g2x. Its almost lag free. But has other problems.
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The overall UI is pretty fast, but web browsing... not as clear cut as i would have expected from the specs, the Ram used by Sense seems to be the problem.

I got a score of 2306 in quadrant advanced, only did one run as waiting to root before going further :S

samjpullen said:
I got a very low 1589 on the first Quadrant...
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Sam, I saw your youtube video of browser performance for Sensation. That flash pinch-zoom thing was horrible. Was this consistent across all websites?
I would have expected better. I feel most of the guys might know about this, rest of us who were unaware, check out Sam's youtube channel. Keep up the good work mate!

I just digged more into the CPU in QSD8x60 It seems to be the same scorpion cpu that ships in the MT4G. According to my data the exynos CPU is 16% faster than the qsd8x60 at the same clock speed ( 2.5 DMIPS vs 2.1 DMIPS ) being architecturally different as exynos is cortex a9 and the other one is Custom Cortex A8 so the lower score. The Sensation Smartbench productivity score is exactly 2.4x that of a stock mt4g. Other things that are affecting smartbench is the Memory Score, I/O of Sensation is around 0.5x that of GS2 and 2d score is around 0.25 x (lower due to more resolution) of that of GS2 maybe due to the fact GSII has hardware acceleration. In real day use Memory, I/O arent going to be affecting stuff much. The CPU on Exynos is faster, GSII has hardware acceleration and I/O and Memory score on the GSII are much higher. When it comes to graphics at the same resolution they are both on the same speed when on the same resolution but difference comes due to sensations qHD display. So for the performance in day to day life the Sensation isn't gonna be much of a difference over Desire HD or the GSII when executing single threaded apps which are 99% apps on Android market and like with most >1ghz CPU you wont experience lag and for the graphics they are gonna be much much faster and better. The Linpack score which tells you the speed of execution of apps written in Java which most Android apps are it is going to be same as GSII, No difference. When executing Native Apps GSII will be faster but when it comes to Native Apps, Most of the Native Apps are games which depend more on the gpu so here too both are same. When it comes to Multimedia Sensation is faster than GSII as it has a 128bit pipeline but both are capable of decoding/encoding 1080p at 30fps and no one is gonna go beyond that. It will only be different when using anything that is on Neon.
To sum it up
Both Phones are extremely powerful and perform better than each other in different scenarios. They are at a point where the difference are minor when coming to performance. To buy a device it entirely depends on your choice as IMO they are both no.1 at the android device table right now. You wont be disappointed by any of those

Do you have the device yet?
charnsingh_online said:
I just digged more into the CPU in QSD8x60 It seems to be the same scorpion cpu that ships in the MT4G. According to my data the exynos CPU is 16% faster than the qsd8x60 at the same clock speed ( 2.5 DMIPS vs 2.1 DMIPS ) being architecturally different as exynos is cortex a9 and the other one is Custom Cortex A8 so the lower score. The Sensation Smartbench productivity score is exactly 2.4x that of a stock mt4g. Other things that are affecting smartbench is the Memory Score, I/O of Sensation is around 0.5x that of GS2 and 2d score is around 0.25 x (lower due to more resolution) of that of GS2 maybe due to the fact GSII has hardware acceleration. In real day use Memory, I/O arent going to be affecting stuff much. The CPU on Exynos is faster, GSII has hardware acceleration and I/O and Memory score on the GSII are much higher. When it comes to graphics at the same resolution they are both on the same speed when on the same resolution but difference comes due to sensations qHD display. So for the performance in day to day life the Sensation isn't gonna be much of a difference over Desire HD or the GSII when executing single threaded apps which are 99% apps on Android market and like with most >1ghz CPU you wont experience lag and for the graphics they are gonna be much much faster and better. The Linpack score which tells you the speed of execution of apps written in Java which most Android apps are it is going to be same as GSII, No difference. When executing Native Apps GSII will be faster but when it comes to Native Apps, Most of the Native Apps are games which depend more on the gpu so here too both are same. When it comes to Multimedia Sensation is faster than GSII as it has a 128bit pipeline but both are capable of decoding/encoding 1080p at 30fps and no one is gonna go beyond that. It will only be different when using anything that is on Neon.
To sum it up
Both Phones are extremely powerful and perform better than each other in different scenarios. They are at a point where the difference are minor when coming to performance. To buy a device it entirely depends on your choice as IMO they are both no.1 at the android device table right now. You wont be disappointed by any of those
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My g2x on froyo is higher than the sensation.
But I bet the sensation is just plain more reliable
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No but i have the datasheet of the processor in it and i know the scores its getting in benchmarks, these scores can be calculated even via the datasheet.
About G2X Tegra2 is plain sucky when it comes to dual core and it is slowest of the bunch. The Java Apps dont perform well and that is what android is based on. Native Apps are mostly games and tegra 2 is good but Sensation is better on both

charnsingh_online said:
I just digged more into the CPU in QSD8x60 It seems to be the same scorpion cpu that ships in the MT4G. According to my data the exynos CPU is 16% faster than the qsd8x60 at the same clock speed ( 2.5 DMIPS vs 2.1 DMIPS ) being architecturally different as exynos is cortex a9 and the other one is Custom Cortex A8 so the lower score. The Sensation Smartbench productivity score is exactly 2.4x that of a stock mt4g. Other things that are affecting smartbench is the Memory Score, I/O of Sensation is around 0.5x that of GS2 and 2d score is around 0.25 x (lower due to more resolution) of that of GS2 maybe due to the fact GSII has hardware acceleration. In real day use Memory, I/O arent going to be affecting stuff much. The CPU on Exynos is faster, GSII has hardware acceleration and I/O and Memory score on the GSII are much higher. When it comes to graphics at the same resolution they are both on the same speed when on the same resolution but difference comes due to sensations qHD display. So for the performance in day to day life the Sensation isn't gonna be much of a difference over Desire HD or the GSII when executing single threaded apps which are 99% apps on Android market and like with most >1ghz CPU you wont experience lag and for the graphics they are gonna be much much faster and better. The Linpack score which tells you the speed of execution of apps written in Java which most Android apps are it is going to be same as GSII, No difference. When executing Native Apps GSII will be faster but when it comes to Native Apps, Most of the Native Apps are games which depend more on the gpu so here too both are same. When it comes to Multimedia Sensation is faster than GSII as it has a 128bit pipeline but both are capable of decoding/encoding 1080p at 30fps and no one is gonna go beyond that. It will only be different when using anything that is on Neon.
To sum it up
Both Phones are extremely powerful and perform better than each other in different scenarios. They are at a point where the difference are minor when coming to performance. To buy a device it entirely depends on your choice as IMO they are both no.1 at the android device table right now. You wont be disappointed by any of those
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They doesn't quite make sense as the mytouch is a stock 1.4 chip MSM8255 the g2 and mytouch are basically the same processors underclocked to 1ghz. The sensation is a stock 1.5 dual core capable of 2.6 ghz overclock The score the sensation getting is the same the score my mytouch was getting out of the box. That indicates that the other processor isn't quite doing anything. At its not the same as a mytouch. The chip in the sensation is MSM8660 Dual-Core SoC with Adreno 220 GPU. Equivalent to the one with HTC evo 3d. QSD8x60 dual core hasn't even been introduced yet.
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Killbynature said:
They doesn't quite make sense as the mytouch is a stock 1.4 chip underclocked to 1ghz. The sensation is a stock 1.5 dual core capable of 2.6 ghz overclock The score the sensation getting is the same the score my mytouch was getting out of the box. That indicates that the other processor isn't quite doing anything. At its not the same as a mytouch. The chip in the sensation is MSM8660 Dual-Core SoC with Adreno 220 GPU.
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it doesn't seem like most of the people hear understand the async tech used in the new qualcomm chip... there is soo much into it that i myself wonder if it is worth it to have a dual core phone at this point as much apps wont stress the first core enough to push the second core to a clock speed close to 1.2 ghz.. yes i do like the sync speeds of the sgs2 but still i think its over kill... to try to put it in lamens terms the sgs2 cores will be at 1.2 ghz in use and what ever mhz at rest while the sensation could have 1 core at a clock speed of 1.2ghz and the other at what ever to relieve the stress be it 3 4 5 6 hundred mhz so until we really get programs to mimic whats needed to make the second core jump to 1.2 ghz we will always wonder about benchmarks which are useless to me

boostedb16b said:
it doesn't seem like most of the people hear understand the async tech used in the new qualcomm chip... there is soo much into it that i myself wonder if it is worth it to have a dual core phone at this point as much apps wont stress the first core enough to push the second core to a clock speed close to 1.2 ghz.. yes i do like the sync speeds of the sgs2 but still i think its over kill... to try to put it in lamens terms the sgs2 cores will be at 1.2 ghz in use and what ever mhz at rest while the sensation could have 1 core at a clock speed of 1.2ghz and the other at what ever to relieve the stress be it 3 4 5 6 hundred mhz so until we really get programs to mimic whats needed to make the second core jump to 1.2 ghz we will always wonder about benchmarks which are useless to me
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Nope I understand I said this early about lower benchmarks. I don't care about them and I do understand the qsd chip isn't similar to the msm Chipset. Similar processors would be g2 and the mytouch 4g as they have the exact same architecture. The mytouch architecture though similar being a a8 should be vastly different
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RADLOUNI said:
Helllo
People have been saying that the sensation is getting low scores because benchmark programs are not designed to test both cores.
I find that most people are throwing around nothing but assumptions for reasons i really cannot understand. Do you know for a fact whether those benchmark programs are optimized only for one core, or is your enthusiasm for the sensation subconsciously pushing you to say that ?????????????
The author of smartbench has posted a comment on another thread in this forum that one of the main reasons smartbench 2010 was pulled out and smartbench 2011 released was testing dual core phones. he added that he does not know why is the sensation getting such low scores as compared to other dual core phone, but will investigate and come back.
So irrespective of my personal preference to HTC phones, and if smartbench author cannot find a bug in his smartbench 2011 leading to low scores on sensation, i have to say that the sensation CPU does not seem to be at the same performance level as other dual core phones
check post #239
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081531&page=24
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I said "there might be". That doesn't mean there is. Most of us don't have this phone so we're making guesses of course.
Early anandtech benchmarks say (don't want links again just search yourself) this chipset at default 1.5 ghz is better than other dual cores. 0.3 Ghz downclock doesn't effect that much. So we're suspicious that there might be incompability problem. Because chipset is new, phone is new etc. And that author doesn't have Sensation too. Then I said "lets wait". Is that ok for you?

dual core + ics

I'm currently running virtuous inquisition 1.3.0. I've tried all ICS roms and I must say I havent' seen much speed increase running single core vs dual core (enabled via system tuner pro). ICS was supposed to take full advantage of the dual core processor but - it's not doing that. I ran tests and after disabling one core the phone actually performs a bit faster - using all the tests I could find: linpack, Quadrant and CF-Bench. Could well be that it's just such an early release of ICS. But GB is actually performing better vs ICS at the current state of affairs.

Synthetic benchmarks are far from definitive.
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Synthetic benchmarks are far from definitive.
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I'm comparing apples to apples numerous times, the disabled secondary core results are always a bit higher.

It's a test ROM. What did you expect?

1. It's an internal test LEAK with a pre-official base
2. Asynchronous smp. Wtf do people not understand about our phones being asynchronous smp architecture? Ics WILL NEVER change this. Ics made the whole rom multithreaded (taking advantage of multi core) and made apps aware of multicore, but nowhere did it EVER say it would change our phone from asynchronous smp to synchronous smp.
Our phones are only built to have cpu1 come on when the load (not speed) on cpu0 reaches a certain threshold.
ICS WILL NOT MAKE BOTH CORES STAY ON ALL THE TIME! this would mean changing the CPU architecture which is not happening after the whole SoC has been designed, layed out, and built (the physical chip and its design).
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It's a test ROM. What did you expect?
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I was expecting dual core perform at least on par with the single core, as ICS finally able to do it.
But you may be right - got trip's experimental beta and without even looking if it's running dual core - his rom smokes competition flat. Much better results than even the famed Galaxy S2.

I dont understand what are you guys talking about, im running ICS with sense for few days and its faster than anything before and benchmarks confirm it
2600 in quadrant and 6250 in AnTuTU and i couldn't get that much even with custom tweaked kernels with overclocked GPU..
Only problem is as its early stage dev rom, scores are some times "quirky" and drop in half but most of the times you get this high ones.
Also Browser is noticeable smoother, scrolling pages (XDA Sensation development) is smooth now and was laggy with ALL roms EVER. EStrong file manager also smooth as it should be..
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I dont understand what are you guys talking about, im running ICS with sense for few days and its faster than anything before and benchmarks confirm it
2600 in quadrant and 6250 in AnTuTU and i couldn't get that much even with custom tweaked kernels with overclocked GPU..
Only problem is as its early stage dev rom, scores are some times "quirky" and drop in half but most of the times you get this high ones.
Also Browser is noticeable smoother, scrolling pages (XDA Sensation development) is smooth now and was laggy with ALL roms EVER. EStrong file manager also smooth as it should be..
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Which Rom are you using? My benchmarks suck...
Matt

mrg02d said:
Which Rom are you using? My benchmarks suck...
Matt
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Using RCTeam first release 1.0 version.
Except i was inpatient to wait so i zipaligned and PNG optimized entire rom my self, and deleted bunch of HTC crap i dont use, including loggers...

ivicask said:
I dont understand what are you guys talking about, im running ICS with sense for few days and its faster than anything before and benchmarks confirm it
2600 in quadrant and 6250 in AnTuTU and i couldn't get that much even with custom tweaked kernels with overclocked GPU..
Only problem is as its early stage dev rom, scores are some times "quirky" and drop in half but most of the times you get this high ones.
Also Browser is noticeable smoother, scrolling pages (XDA Sensation development) is smooth now and was laggy with ALL roms EVER. EStrong file manager also smooth as it should be..
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quadrant doesn't support dual core & isn't a reliable benchmark.

sromer said:
quadrant doesn't support dual core & isn't a reliable benchmark.
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Enough with Quadrant bashing. It shows useful FPS information and is relative. Now, if it only went to 2500 no matter what ROM you are using then yes, it would be useless. But getting a 1400 on it with one ROM and then getting a 2600 on it with another ROM AINT useless information.
Matt

sromer said:
quadrant doesn't support dual core & isn't a reliable benchmark.
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So your saying by disabling 2nd core you get same score? And tell me why is CPU usage on 100% during test for both cores if it doesnt support it..doesnt make sense to me..but who knows maybe your right...

mrg02d said:
Enough with Quadrant bashing. It shows useful FPS information and is relative. Now, if it only went to 2500 no matter what ROM you are using then yes, it would be useless. But getting a 1400 on it with one ROM and then getting a 2600 on it with another ROM AINT useless information.
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I'm not the only one on here that believes that it isn't a reliable benchmark.
Have a look at some of the threads about it.
Since android is a multi-tasking OS results will always vary from test to test in Quadrant.

gpu overclocking (S4 model)

hello
is there any way to overclock adreno 225 ? and how much ? (how much is stock clock ?)
how much overclocking will influence on performance ?
Thanks
(excuse me if my English isn't good)

May I ask why you'd want to do this?

This should be in the Q & A Section !
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devgee said:
This should be in the Q & A Section !
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Yeah for some reason people can't seem to grasp that q&a means questions & answers.
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excuse me , please apologize me.
dear moderators could you move this topic , or should i create this topic in Q & A Section.
thanks

usaff22 said:
May I ask why you'd want to do this?
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because of reaching higher number benchmark(s) . (if i have this smartphone)
could anybody answer my questions ?
"hello
is there any way to overclock adreno 225 ? and how much ? (how much is stock clock ?)
how much overclocking will influence on performance ?
Thanks"
thanks

Oh, so I get it.
Just to get a few different digits (different pixels on the screen) you want to burn your GPU. Go ahead, but don't come crying to me if HTC refuses your warranty.
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sadegh1993 said:
because of reaching higher number benchmark(s) . (if i have this smartphone)
could anybody answer my questions ?
"hello
is there any way to overclock adreno 225 ? and how much ? (how much is stock clock ?)
how much overclocking will influence on performance ?
Thanks"
thanks
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Seriously? Dude benchmarks are affected by little things like software, if you want better benchmarking numbers hows about install a custom ROM like TrickDroid or ViperOneS which will make your ego feel better, instead of trying to melt your phone...little steps...also, please don't re-quote your own question, we are able to read your post a few lines above it...

U will completely fry ur phone within months over clock is bad even to 1.8ghz never mind what u want to go to
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im on Paranoid Android with Zarbox's kernel... it has gpu OC enabled in it... i havent seen any negative impact on my phone from it

danial.aw said:
im on Paranoid Android with Zarbox's kernel... it has gpu OC enabled in it... i havent seen any negative impact on my phone from it
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U won't see negative impact on the phone if anything the phone is faster but ur frying the phone inside it wasn't designed to be 2.1ghz+ for a reason.. And the phones life span is going down
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The Qualcomm chipsets are built to run as high as 2ghz but they're underclocked from factory. And overclocking your gpu not CPU, won't have a huge negative impact if your phone can handle it.
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it will definitely make your life span on the phone much smaller, if you have extra money for another phone go for it. if you want to have a reliable for for a long while then keep it on stock clock speed. the s4 is already speedy enough.

how much is stock gpu clock ? (S4) and how high is maximum gpu clock (with overclock) ?
thanks

sadegh1993 said:
how much is stock gpu clock ? (S4) and how high is maximum gpu clock (with overclock) ?
thanks
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could anybody help me ?
and offer me a good kernel with gpu oc'ing .
thanks

Oh hey, and could anyone bring me coffee and a sandwich please?
Nobody needs GPU overclocking... I also think that CPU over clocking is senseless because there is hardly any app that really needs the power. I am running at 1.2ghz a lot of times with my s4 chip and everything runs perfectly fine.
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slainbybeats said:
Oh hey, and could anyone bring me coffee and a sandwich please?
Nobody needs GPU overclocking... I also think that CPU over clocking is senseless because there is hardly any app that really needs the power. I am running at 1.2ghz a lot of times with my s4 chip and everything runs perfectly fine.
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have you tried nfs mostwanted on your one s (s4)?
in some or many races , games became slow for me (stock 4.0.4 rom and without oc)
could anybody answer my question ?
"how much is stock gpu clock ? (S4) and how high is maximum gpu clock (with overclock) ?
thanks"
thanks

sadegh1993 said:
have you tried nfs mostwanted on your one s (s4)?
in some or many races , games became slow for me (stock 4.0.4 rom and without oc)
could anybody answer my question ?
"how much is stock gpu clock ? (S4) and how high is maximum gpu clock (with overclock) ?
thanks"
thanks
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Please STOP quoting yourself all the time, we can read!

sadegh1993 said:
have you tried nfs mostwanted on your one s (s4)?
in some or many races , games became slow for me (stock 4.0.4 rom and without oc)
thanks
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You should try other alternatives to overclocking the GPU. Maybe a custom rom, more control over the apps in the bg... NFS MW works perfectly on my One S S4 at stock GPU and CPU speeds.
The Adreno 225 can run up to 400MHz compared to 266MHz in Adreno 220 designs. This is because of the 24nm design of the S4 SOC. By default, i think the Adreno 225 is clocked at 200Mhz and the clock speed is adjusted depending on the needs. So your GPU runs at speeds between 200 and 400 Mhz because of the 24nm design. Now, considering that the top clock speed of the Adreno 220 (from the S3, on 42nm i think) is at 266Mhz, the 225 with 400Mhz is more than enough for any present games. If you would get over this limit, the SOC will generate a lot more heat due to the higher frequency.

Do not keep bumping this thread! It is useless anyway...