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[Q] How to check S-ON or S-OFF ?

Hi there, I have a HTC desire S.... I wonder how to check if my phone is S-off or S-on.... How to check? anyone here can guide me ?

same here. I would like to find out too. can anyone explain. phone is o2 stock.

From the powered off state, hold volume down button and power button until the bootloader screen shows up. If you look as it goes through, it should say in the output S-on or S-off.
It will boot up normally if you leave it go so make sure to look quickly.

I can haz bootloaders?

Ok guys, just need to have your input on the following:
You already know there is HBOOT available with volume down+power.
On my phone, there are two additional modes available: one with volume up+power (red led, three vibrations), another with volume up+volume down+power (green led, five vibrations). I suspect these two modes are used for unbricking. They are also present on my HTC Wildfire.
It would be very cool if other Desire S owners here could try these two combinations and post here your results. Also! very important, please mention if your phone is:
S-ON
S-OFF because it's en engineering phone, lucky you
S-OFF through XTC Clip (aka radio S-OFF)
S-OFF through AlphaRevx/Revolutionary (aka HBOOT S-OFF, flag in radio is untouched)
You can also report your HBOOT version but it shouldn't affect which bootloaders are available.

xdbg said:
Ok guys, just need to have your input on the following:
You already know there is HBOOT available with volume down+power.
On my phone, there are two additional modes available: one with volume up+power (red led, three vibrations), another with volume up+volume down+power (green led, five vibrations). I suspect these two modes are used for unbricking. They are also present on my HTC Wildfire.
It would be very cool if other Desire S owners here could try these two combinations and post here your results. Also! very important, please mention if your phone is:
S-ON
S-OFF because it's en engineering phone, lucky you
S-OFF through XTC Clip (aka radio S-OFF)
S-OFF through AlphaRevx/Revolutionary (aka HBOOT S-OFF, flag in radio is untouched)
You can also report your HBOOT version but it shouldn't affect which bootloaders are available.
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s-off alpharevx
vol up+power does not work
vol up+vol down+power does not work
vol down+power works
& s-off using alpharevx allows you to change radio so i think the radio flag is also changed

kartkk said:
s-off alpharevx
vol up+power does not work
vol up+vol down+power does not work
vol down+power works
& s-off using alpharevx allows you to change radio so i think the radio flag is also changed
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Thanks very much. It's possible I have access to these two bootloaders because the phone was not originally carrier-locked.

xdbg said:
Thanks very much. It's possible I have access to these two bootloaders because the phone was not originally carrier-locked.
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my device was also not carrier locked when i bought it,i bought it for the full price
but i got the device shortly after it was released so this feature could have been added later

I'm S-OFF by XTC Clip with the ENG Boot (see SIG for versions), not carrier locked device.
volume up+power (red led, three vibrations) = does exacltly this, but, then get blank dark screen and appear to not be able to progress further, with any combination of button pushing, including vol up+vol down+power (so had to pull battery )
volume up+volume down+power (green led, five vibrations) = does exacltly this, but, again then gives a blank black screen and appear to not be able to progress further, again was forced to pull battery to escape.
Hope that this helps.

Thanks a lot ben and kartkk. In both bootloaders, it is normal that you get a black screen as they only communicate with USB - see tjworld. Kartkk, do you have the black or grey desire s model?
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA Premium App

xdbg said:
Thanks a lot ben and kartkk. In both bootloaders, it is normal that you get a black screen as they only communicate with USB - see tjworld. Kartkk, do you have the black or grey desire s model?
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA Premium App
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i have the black version,but i dont think that matters
for me vol down+vol up+power & vol up+power does nothing,the device starts just the way it starts when i am only holding the power button

kartkk said:
i have the black version,but i dont think that matters
for me vol down+vol up+power & vol up+power does nothing,the device starts just the way it starts when i am only holding the power button
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Thanks. Are you sure you pressed the power button very fast? Do not keep the button pressed (contrary to volume up/down which must be kept pressed).

xdbg said:
Thanks. Are you sure you pressed the power button very fast? Do not keep the button pressed (contrary to volume up/down which must be kept pressed).
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yes,i tried it that way too but it didn't work

kartkk said:
yes,i tried it that way too but it didn't work
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Ok, this is very interesting, as if HTC used a different, locked bootloader here. Could you do one last thing for me (root needed):
do a "dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 of=/mnt/sdcard/mmcblk0p1" and "dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 of=/mnt/sdcard/mmcblk0p3" then upload the files somewhere. Don't worry, it just reads the bootloaders, there's no risk of modifying anything.
I recommend you do it from adb shell in your android system (not CWM) as the partitions will be read-only anyway and there'll be an even lesser risk of something going wrong.

xdbg said:
Ok, this is very interesting, as if HTC used a different, locked bootloader here. Could you do one last thing for me (root needed):
do a "dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 of=/mnt/sdcard/mmcblk0p1" and "dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 of=/mnt/sdcard/mmcblk0p3" then upload the files somewhere. Don't worry, it just reads the bootloaders, there's no risk of modifying anything.
I recommend you do it from adb shell in your android system (not CWM) as the partitions will be read-only anyway and there'll be an even lesser risk of something going wrong.
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this could be so because i used alpharevX to s-off my device & alpharevX replaces the Hboot & bootloader with a new one

kartkk said:
this could be so because i used alpharevX to s-off my device & alpharevX replaces the Hboot & bootloader with a new one
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Actually, QCSBL and OEMSBL (the two partitions mentionned before) are executed before HBOOT, on the radio itself (not on the apps processor like HBOOT). Hence the possibilty of unbricking through QCSBL even if HBOOT is corrupt. Could you upload the two partitions? (mmcblk0p1 and mmcblk0p3), it would be much appreciated.

this is interesting............ if this works, our phone will be unbrickable !!!!!!!!

shrome99 said:
this is interesting............ if this works, our phone will be unbrickable !!!!!!!!
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Not exactly, if you manage to erase one of the first bootloaders (QCSBL or OEMSBL) then only a JTAG will save you. And this will cost $$$.

i am a noob at using adb,so im not sure if im doing it right
im getting the message " cannot open for write:read-only file system"

kartkk said:
i am a noob at using adb,so im not sure if im doing it right
im getting the message " cannot open for write:read-only file system"
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If you could paste the screen output from before the adb shell ....

kartkk said:
i am a noob at using adb,so im not sure if im doing it right
im getting the message " cannot open for write:read-only file system"
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right. first be sure you are root in your shell (you see a # instead of $). if not root, start the command "su"
then, make sure the SD card is currently not mounted on your PC, if you run the "df" command it should appear in the output as mounted on /mnt/sdcard/ (or maybe /sdcard/)

got it to work
i got the two files & i ziped them
see if these are the right ones
editxdbg im using prerooted custom roms, i have root
i restarted my device & it worked

kartkk said:
got it to work
i got the two files & i ziped them
see if these are the right ones
editxdbg im using prerooted custom roms, i have root
i restarted my device & it worked
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Thanks a lot, I'll have a look and compare with mine.

[Q] What's my HBOOT Version? New to Sensation

Ok I know U hate me
just bought it, blah blah
want to root, S-OFF, ROM
Went to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
then to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497404
as instructed. want to get my Key. It asked for HBOOT version.
How do I find out?
Thanks!

You need to go in to your bootloader screen.
1. Shutdown phone (first disable fastboot from settings power menu)
2. Press Power and volume down until you see your screen powers on.
3. It will search for default (certified update package just wait until it stop)
4. On top of the screen you will see a line with Hboot 1.x.x.x.x this is your Hboot (bootloader) verison. (like Bios version on PC)
Be carefull on S-Off and rooting, read the guides in detail
Cheers

Remove your battery, reinsert battery. Hold down vol - button, push power button,, keep pressing vol - and let go of power button, h boot screen should show up in a few seconds.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G with Beats Audio using xda premium

yasobaso said:
You need to go in to your bootloader screen.
1. Shutdown phone (first disable fastboot from settings power menu)
2. Press Power and volume down until you see your screen powers on.
3. It will search for default (certified update package just wait until it stop)
4. On top of the screen you will see a line with Hboot 1.x.x.x.x this is your Hboot (bootloader) verison. (like Bios version on PC)
Be carefull and read the guides in detail
Cheers
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U ARE GREAT!!! I thanked you, and thank you again !!!!

Thank you all !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Q] How do I update RUU 3.18?

Hi there,
I know this might seem like a really dumb question, but I was wondering if someone can point me the way to updating my One XL to this firmware or whatever this is. I really wanna try the newer CM for the phone.
Thanks in advance!

You need s-off first, do you have s-off?
Sent from my Evita

Man I would love to know what that means, but my friend helped me root my phone last year. How can I check whether s-off is enabled or not? If not, can you direct me somewhere I can do this?
Sorry for the super noob questions.
Thanks man

Oh, I see. This is why I'm totally against people rooting phones for other people. Now you have an unlocked/rooted device but you have no idea what you're doing. You're gonna need to do a lot of learning. I need to see your bootloader details, to boot into the bootloader there are two methods.
With phone powered on
Hold the volume down button, then hold the power button (so you're holding both buttons together), the button lights will start to flash, they will stop flashing and the screen will go blank, after a couple of seconds let go of the power button but continue to hold the volume down button until you reach the white screen with text, this is your bootloader.
With phone powered off
Hold the volume down button, then hold the power button (so you're holding both buttons together), after a couple of seconds let go of the power button but continue to hold the volume down button until you reach the white screen with text, this is your bootloader.
Please post the first five lines.
Sent from my Evita

Thanks for the help man! Really appreciate it man!
EVITA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.11.0000
RADIO-0.18as. 32. 09. 28L
OpenDSP-v28. 1. 0. 32. 0504
eMMC-boot

You need to get s-off so you can run the 3.18 RUU, do you have SuperCID? You can check your CID by issuing this fastboot command
Code:
fastboot oem readcid
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
This is why I'm totally against people rooting phones for other people. Now you have an unlocked/rooted device but you have no idea what you're doing. You're gonna need to do a lot of learning.
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Completely agree on these points. An owner with a modified device, that doesn't understand the basic concepts of what is modified is very dangerous for a variety of reasons.
This is one perfect example, if you had run the 3.18 RUU with S-on (which you have) and SuperCID (which you probably also have) would have instantly bricked the phone.
Its a very good thing you asked, before proceeding.

[Q] [HELP] HTC One X Rooting Problem PLEASE HELP

Hello,
I would like to start off with saying I am new here and so far I love this site it has helped me a lot with rooting my phone. However, I have a problem:
Okay so I rooted the phone successfully and installed SuperSU and all that. After I did this the phone was rooted and running on jellybean just fine. Well the whole reason I wanted to root the phone in the first place was so I could install a custom ROM. So i followed this tutorial for the whole rooting process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069904
So after I rooted I downloaded the .zip file for the rom i wanted, which in this case was one of the Beanstalk roms for evita HTC One X.
After I moved the .zip file to the phone, I booted the phone into TWRP recovery. (I am using TWRP v2.7) and flashed the ROM. After I did this I extracted the boot.img file to my desktop. After I did this I opened up the toolkit and pressed Flash a Kernel, it said it did so successfully. I rebooted the phone and got stuck at the Beanstalk boot screen, and couldnt get it to fully boot up at all.
So I booted the phone back into recovery mode, made a backup, and wiped the phone clean so i could try to start over. Well when i wiped the phone i tried to back up the phone in TWRP, only to find that my backup file has disappeared.
Now my phone is ROMless and i can only boot the phone into recovery and bootloader mode.
This wouldn't be that much of a problem, if it weren't for my PC acting up. (I'm using Windows 7 Professional) My PC recognizes the device but the drivers never successfully install, the only place where i can find the device on my computer is in the Device Manager and it says Needs troubleshooting, when i try to troubleshoot it never troubleshoots correctly and i cant find the driver. So I can't access the files on the phone to put a different ROM on the phone, and i also tried running the RUU exe file for it and that did nothing. Is there any possible way to at least get this phone back to normal?? At this point I could care less about the root or custom ROM.
If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated. I'm currently stuck without a phone until I can find a way to fix this
Thanks in advance for anyone able to help me.

First off, do you have the HTC One X (Endeavoru) or the HTC One XL / at&t One X (Evita)? I ask this because you linked to a guide for the Endeavoru but you have mentioned an Evita ROM, which means you're lurking in both device forums which is dangerous. What are your bootloader details?
Sent from my Evita

I have the AT&T HTC One X (Evita, US verison) and what do you mean by bootloader details? Sorry if i sound like a noob, i'm new to rooting and such.

Your bootloader details are the lines of text that your see in your bootloader screen. To boot into the bootloader there are two methods.
With phone powered on
Hold the volume down button, then hold the power button (so you're holding both buttons together), the button lights will start to flash, they will stop flashing and the screen will go blank, after a couple of seconds let go of the power button but continue to hold the volume down button until you reach the white screen with text, this is your bootloader.
With phone powered off
Hold the volume down button, then hold the power button (so you're holding both buttons together), after a couple of seconds let go of the power button but continue to hold the volume down button until you reach the white screen with text, this is your bootloader.
Please post the first five lines.
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
Your bootloader details are the lines of text that your see in your bootloader screen. To boot into the bootloader there are two methods.
With phone powered on
Hold the volume down button, then hold the power button (so you're holding both buttons together), the button lights will start to flash, they will stop flashing and the screen will go blank, after a couple of seconds let go of the power button but continue to hold the volume down button until you reach the white screen with text, this is your bootloader.
With phone powered off
Hold the volume down button, then hold the power button (so you're holding both buttons together), after a couple of seconds let go of the power button but continue to hold the volume down button until you reach the white screen with text, this is your bootloader.
Please post the first five lines.
Sent from my Evita
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Yes i'm aware of what bootloader is (not trying to sound sarcastic or anything) but the first five lines are these:
*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
EVITA PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.14.0000
RADIO-0.24p.32.09.06
OpenDSP-v34.1.0.45.1219
eMMC-boot
Nov 26 2012, 18:37:14:-1
its a little more than 5 lines but yeah. I heard theres a way to flash the device with a third party software called ODIN if the pc wont recognize the device normally? Do you know anything about that?

ViolentPoptart said:
Yes i'm aware of what bootloader is (not trying to sound sarcastic or anything) but the first five lines are these:
*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
EVITA PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.14.0000
RADIO-0.24p.32.09.06
OpenDSP-v34.1.0.45.1219
eMMC-boot
Nov 26 2012, 18:37:14:-1
its a little more than 5 lines but yeah. I heard theres a way to flash the device with a third party software called ODIN if the pc wont recognize the device normally? Do you know anything about that?
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Well, you did ask what I meant by bootloader details, so I answered. You absolutely can't use ODIN, that's Samsung software.
My advice is to get rid of whatever toolkit you're using and learn to do things manually, it's very easy, plus clearly toolkits are unreliable. You're gonna need to resolve your driver issue, probably by installing HTC Sync Manager, which will install drivers. Once you've gotten your drivers sorted out you can head to my How-To Guide For Beginners thread for detailed instructions on how to flash the boot.img manually.
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
Well, you did ask what I meant by bootloader details, so I answered. You absolutely can't use ODIN, that's Samsung software.
My advice is to get rid of whatever toolkit you're using and learn to do things manually, it's very easy, plus clearly toolkits are unreliable. You're gonna need to resolve your driver issue, probably by installing HTC Sync Manager, which will install drivers. Once you've gotten your drivers sorted out you can head to my How-To Guide For Beginners thread for detailed instructions on how to flash the boot.img manually.
Sent from my Evita
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yeah you just cleared up what you meant by details with the text lines
and ive tried uninstalling and reinstalling sync manager a few times now, it recognizes the device, but i cant access the files, the phone only shows up in Devices and Printers, and it shows up as Evita with an exclamation mark and says needs troubleshooting. when i try to troubleshoot it it doesn't work. however there are also other problems with my PC, the monitor is listed as a generic pnp monitor and the graphics card is listed as standard vga graphics adapter. i think thats my main problem, im going to try to wipe my pc and reinstall windows and see if that works.

ViolentPoptart said:
yeah you just cleared up what you meant by details with the text lines
and ive tried uninstalling and reinstalling sync manager a few times now, it recognizes the device, but i cant access the files, the phone only shows up in Devices and Printers, and it shows up as Evita with an exclamation mark and says needs troubleshooting. when i try to troubleshoot it it doesn't work. however there are also other problems with my PC, the monitor is listed as a generic pnp monitor and the graphics card is listed as standard vga graphics adapter. i think thats my main problem, im going to try to wipe my pc and reinstall windows and see if that works. Where can i find your how to guide for beginners?
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Ok, yeah you probably need to sort out your PC first. My guide thread is in my signature.
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
Ok, yeah you probably need to sort out your PC first. My guide thread is in my signature.
Sent from my Evita
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my problem is now solved. thanks for your help