How come some phones get high quadrant scores? - General Questions and Answers

Hey
I overclocked my Galaxy S and I did some tests in quadrant to see if my clock gave me lower performance.. Anyways I got 2950 as my best score @ 1.5 GHz but I see some HD2's getting 4400 in socre @ 1.5 GHz. I thougt my Galaxy S would get a better score then a HD2. Is it becouse the HD2 running a slimmer rom with less background processes or are they just lying?

I believe quadrant scores are heavily varying and dependent on the device, and for the most part, do very little to reflect "real" performance.
I don't have a straight answer, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. Your scores are still magnitude's higher than my Hero, my absolute highest (with unsafe tweaks to the clock and kernel) was about roughly 500

hey guzy....
sorry for the dumb question but...
can u tell ne what overclocking is......??? i'm new to android platform.....
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maxcool12345 said:
hey guzy....
sorry for the dumb question but...
can u tell ne what overclocking is......??? i'm new to android platform.....
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Overclocking is just ramping up the processor in your CPU to higher frequencies for faster performance. There are limits, you can't go too high because you risk damage and overheating, and going too low can cause severe slowdowns and instability.
BUt finding a sweet spot for the minimum and maximum processor speed can result in a much faster phone when the screen is on and a way better battery life with the screen off.

nice.... n thanx.... how did it works.... is there any soft stuff(app) available for it or somethin else....????
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LiquidSolstice said:
I believe quadrant scores are heavily varying and dependent on the device, and for the most part, do very little to reflect "real" performance.http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=14894469
I don't have a straight answer, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. Your scores are still magnitude's higher than my Hero, my absolute highest (with unsafe tweaks to the clock and kernel) was about roughly 500
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Ah...Good old days!
Anyways,there are many many ways to cheat quadrant.Running the app from a ramdisk,patching SQlite,running a rom from SD(I think) all boost the scores.That is,however,because Quadrant relies heavily on I/O,which gives unreal scores.Remove I/O benchmarking from the test and you have a helluva accurate benchmark.Pretty good too.
But on the SGS,let me make my guess.Are you running Cognition rom?If yes,are you using interactive governor?Again,if yes,switch to performance governor and yay,4000+ points in Quadrant!

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nice.... n thanx.... how did it works.... is there any soft stuff(app) available for it or somethin else....????
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Unfortunately, it requires a custom kernel, which in turn requires a custom recovery (and in some cases, a custom ROM) to achieve.

ohhh crap!!!! thats the reason i want a forum or some dev to create interest in my device..... hey can u tell me somethin j shud do....????
w8 or shud sell my cellphone to buy somethin like optimus??
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tolis626 said:
Ah...Good old days!
Anyways,there are many many ways to cheat quadrant.Running the app from a ramdisk,patching SQlite,running a rom from SD(I think) all boost the scores.That is,however,because Quadrant relies heavily on I/O,which gives unreal scores.Remove I/O benchmarking from the test and you have a helluva accurate benchmark.Pretty good too.
But on the SGS,let me make my guess.Are you running Cognition rom?If yes,are you using interactive governor?Again,if yes,switch to performance governor and yay,4000+ points in Quadrant!
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Im using CM7 with Glitch kernel. And I used "smartass" when I got the score but now I get like 2470 in score now even with performance. Plugged in the charger and now I got 2888 in score so I guess the charger helps a lot in quadrant to..

LiquidSolstice said:
I believe quadrant scores are heavily varying and dependent on the device, and for the most part, do very little to reflect "real" performance.
I don't have a straight answer, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. Your scores are still magnitude's higher than my Hero, my absolute highest (with unsafe tweaks to the clock and kernel) was about roughly 500
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Cannot agree more. It sure is fun showing around your quadrant score but a quadrant score never reflects true real world performance. Maybe, Neocore would be a better benchmark but then again non of these benchmarks would show how fast apps could load or how smooth you switch between apps.
I use an LG GT540 Optimus. I was able to reach 64.3fps on neocore and 1250 on quadrant after overclocking to some 800MHz with performance controller.
Quadrant also doesn't reflect the core memory/cpu usage. ie Sense UI eats more resources than vanilla. So, same phone running vanilla and sense will have different scores.
I believe Samsung uses TouchWiz. Perhaps, you could score better with a vanilla rom or cyanogenmod.
Last but not the least, Quadrant scores could be faked just as easy as you could fake version numbers in About Phone.

Lirkaren said:
Hey
I overclocked my Galaxy S and I did some tests in quadrant to see if my clock gave me lower performance.. Anyways I got 2950 as my best score @ 1.5 GHz but I see some HD2's getting 4400 in socre @ 1.5 GHz. I thougt my Galaxy S would get a better score then a HD2. Is it becouse the HD2 running a slimmer rom with less background processes or are they just lying?
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Quadrant sucks use smartbench the sgs is one of the most powerful single core phone out there an smart bench proves it
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Jasonhunterx said:
Quadrant sucks use smartbench the sgs is one of the most powerful single core phone out there an smart bench proves it
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what is your clock speed?

can someone post what their default minimum and maximum clock speeds are which is shown in quadrant benchmarking app? i downloaded setcpu and its gay, uninstalling does not undo the changes it made...
I have mines at 1000 over 1000 but it gets way to hot
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I get 998 1st time and 961 2nd time on my SGS4g. I am surprised that the score is actually better than the SGS.
Lol I meant cpu speeds I consistently get 1015 on quadrant
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Quadrant isn't a good test or benchmark of the Samsung Galaxy line of phones.
It was designed to bench Snapdragon CPU's. Hence the reason the MyTouch4G scores in the 2000's and the SGS4G scores in the 900's.
Side by side comparisons are much better than benchmarks anyhow. Don't worry your SGS4G is just as fast as the rest of the 1Ghz phones out there.
Additionally the PowerVR SGX540 gpu in your phone is unparalleled in the mobile handset market right now.
I wasn't complaining about my score, was saying it's better than the original vibrant
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csdalporto said:
can someone post what their default minimum and maximum clock speeds are which is shown in quadrant benchmarking app? i downloaded setcpu and its gay, uninstalling does not undo the changes it made...
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1006 to 1030

Why overclock??

Hi people. Im new to forums in general so try to use small words lol.
Can someone explain whats the reason behind overclocking a phone?? Ive underclocked my galaxy s down to 800mhz to save battery and you only notice when i have a few apps running which i never do anyway. Im not dissing anyone who does, id just like to know.
If theres a guide covering it ive missed please post it and ill read up
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Unfortunately it is impossible поницить frequency of the processor
Speed increase.
It is useful for applications the require more grunt.
If you want to understand it use psx4droid to play a game at 1.2GHz then at 800MHz
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I like everything to be snappy on my phone. Overclocking my desire from 1ghz to 1.25 makes it cruise!
I think the SGS is fast enough and you can play all the games available without lags. So overclocking is just for fun, but in normal use you don't see any difference.
how fast do you want your phone?
I overclock to 1.3ghz on my epic 4g when I use emulators and when I am not far from a charger but other than that I generally scale down to 800mhz
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I have the HTC Aria, a little 3.2" Android powerhouse, dev-friendly device severely throttled by it's 600mHz processor. So I overclock it, and this little beast lives up to it's potential. It's like having a superphone in a small size. That's why overclock.
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swoleface said:
how fast do you want your phone?
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Mach3
Got my Nexus One @ 1113, but really it's just force of habit. Trying to eke out a little extra performance and all that. Can't say i've noticed any difference though!
Overclocking my ZTE Blade to 729mhz (600mhz stock) can play most of HD games (...Gameloft's especially) without lagging......
I think overclocking is only for gaming purposes ... ♫
▲▼▲Overclocking → The worst battery killer▲▼▲
I have a feeling most phone overclockers are getting a placebo effect.
If you were to hand them a phone and tell them it was 800mhz, they'd feel like it was slower than if you handed the same phone (unchanged) and tell them it was 1.2ghz.
Mobile phone companies configure thier devices for maximum age. However overclockers push limits beyond stock. With right procedures, you get upto 50% speed boost resulting stunning output. Just your cell phone will die early :/. But not that soon. I am using DHD. Overclocked to 1.53ghz ( stock 1024mhz ). Rest, you can reckon.
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Overclocked to 1.3Ghz Quadrant benchmark results

Just thought i'd show a pic
What did u use to o/c tegrak? And its to blurry, can't make out the score
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Success100 said:
What did u use to o/c tegrak? And its to blurry, can't make out the score
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yea tegrak... i'll try to get a clear one didnt know it came out that blurry plus i didnt keep track of score cuz i've been getting that all day
I know this is a stupid question but other than improve quadrant scores, what else does it really improve? Im running the overclock at 1.2ghz right now and I dont notice any difference
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I was testing it out and it didn't really make much of a difference on my for Quadrant Standard. I used SetCPU and put both min and max to 1.3 and set scaling to performance and not a big change. I dunno if I'm doing something wrong.
well i'm also deodexed kd1, bali kernel so i dunno n also runnin the touchwiz 4.0(beautiful interface, just a btw)... well my overall performance improved n battery life surprisingly good... its been 7 hrs now and i still got juice...
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What did u use to o/c tegrak? And its to blurry, can't make out the score
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most recent score 1211
What exactly do I have to do to OC it? I tried it when I had my Captivate but I thought that I needed a different kernel? SetCPU wouldn't let me go over 1ghz... But I do have the bali kernel flashed right now.
EDIT: Nevermind, I saw the other post right after I made this. Sorry to interrupt!
I started a thread about this a while back and I wanted to share the info that was shared to me. Just FYI
joedeveloper said:
Quadrant Advanced provides the breakdown for each individual area (multi-colored).
http://slideme.org/application/quadrant-advanced
The thing about quadrant however, is it's not optimized or suited for the processor in our phones (Hummingbird). It was designed for snapdragon processors.
Additionally, Quadrant is sub par in my opinion on benchmark test apps (even though it's well known) because it does operations that aren't typical. If you get advanced you'll see that it does like 60% all IO operations, however thats a really strange test because it would be like you running a full on database on your phone.
So the scenarios and tests it runs are not representative of the scenarios you are going to use your phone to perform.
I like SmartBench better because it gives you an index for Gaming and Productivity.
Samsung Galaxy S 4G's will slightly outperform the snapdragon/adreno combo that you see in the MT4G etc. Very slight advantage. In regard to productivity it does well too.
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U won't notice anything earth shattering from an extra 200 MHz. However for games and flash and videos it does help. Also improves app loading times and things like that so even though it doesn't seem to do much it does help alot when the phone is pushed to the 1ghz area
icy56 said:
I know this is a stupid question but other than improve quadrant scores, what else does it really improve? Im running the overclock at 1.2ghz right now and I dont notice any difference
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fknfocused said:
I started a thread about this a while back and I wanted to share the info that was shared to me. Just FYI
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i did use smartbench too.... n in terms of gaming it was rite up there with optimus but likely lower in productivity
Scored 1263 Running deodexed KD1, with Bali kernel and spb shell (which is kind of a resource hog)
I know it doesn't truly give a benchmark for our processor, but just like getting your car dyno'd before you build it... it's good for a baseline number. And I was just under 900 stock.
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shotchacokov said:
Scored 1263 Running deodexed KD1, with Bali kernel and spb shell (which is kind of a resource hog)
I know it doesn't truly give a benchmark for our processor, but just like getting your car dyno'd before you build it... it's good for a baseline number. And I was just under 900 stock.
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Where'd you get that battery?
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At 1.3ghz
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@1.3ghz ... this i wud say is an average cuz i've gotten better
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well i'm also deodexed kd1, bali kernel so i dunno n also runnin the touchwiz 4.0(beautiful interface, just a btw)... well my overall performance improved n battery life surprisingly good... its been 7 hrs now and i still got juice...
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Woah, where did you get touchwiz 4 for our phone ? Ive been looking for it all day on google and I can only find the original galaxy s and the epic 4g's
skillz398 said:
Woah, where did you get touchwiz 4 for our phone ? Ive been looking for it all day on google and I can only find the original galaxy s and the epic 4g's
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074410
a thanks would be much appreciated
rickyy00 said:
Where'd you get that battery?
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Look for the status bar mod....under themes
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Is 1.0ghz what your phones comes with?
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rickyy00 said:
Is 1.0ghz what your phones comes with?
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yes that wud be correct

OC Max!

Hi Guys I have a Galaxy S 4G I have noticed that max stable overlclock is 1.508Ghz If I bump up to 1.516Ghz It is stable but at watching videos for a long time it crashes, I have noticed that the normal max temp is below 60 C or 55 C, that's stress testing for long time, normal everyday is 41~43 or, I Think It can go higher but I t would need 1500mV or 1600mV core Voltage also to achieve 1.6, 1.7 or 1.8 even 2.0Ghz It takes 1600mV or 1800mV, temps would be 45~47 normal, and above 60~65 on stress testing. But tegrak doesn't support these volatges, It would need to tweak the code. With proper cooling temps can go down to 33 or 30, lets say using the phone in a cool room.
Do you know when are they gonna support higher core voltages(Tegrak OC)?
Do you really need to oc that high?
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Exodian said:
Do you really need to oc that high?
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At 1.5 is goood but for proper PC like performance it would be a bit higher.
2.0ghz would beat samsung sgs2
I know anything higher than 2.0Ghz the phone would suffer, I don't know if the main board can support 2.5Ghz or 3.0Ghz. The battery doesn't handle that much power not even 3500mah battery
Mine runs stable and quite cool @ 1.62 and I get 4128 quad score, but I have no need to oc the phone with all the tweaks.
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Thanks I'm gonna try out your setup, but that's the highest it can go?
I get a max of 2300+ because I have no tweaks and I am at Stock 2.3.5 UVUKJ3
I really don't see the need for oc other than for playing a REALLY graphical intensive game. For me, I get a better performance boost from the tweaks incorporated into roms than oc. I tried running a 1.5 for a week and I honestly didn't even notice a difference other than less battery life.
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icy56 said:
I really don't see the need for oc other than for playing a REALLY graphical intensive game. For me, I get a better performance boost from the tweaks incorporated into roms than oc. I tried running a 1.5 for a week and I honestly didn't even notice a difference other than less battery life.
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Well I notice a difference but anything above 2.0 GHz it is nearly impposible, even if it is gotten above that it would not match new dual and quad Core CPU because they have a different architecture but the battery is the first thing that you notice but the things that I do on the phone require much more processing power than stock. Well the highest is 1.6ish that I think the phone has been able to handle. But definitely overclocking the phone will get you up to speed work new games coming out
tichs said:
Hi Guys I have a Galaxy S 4G I have noticed that max stable overlclock is 1.508Ghz If I bump up to 1.516Ghz It is stable but at watching videos for a long time it crashes, I have noticed that the normal max temp is below 60 C or 55 C, that's stress testing for long time, normal everyday is 41~43 or, I Think It can go higher but I t would need 1500mV or 1600mV core Voltage also to achieve 1.6, 1.7 or 1.8 even 2.0Ghz It takes 1600mV or 1800mV, temps would be 45~47 normal, and above 60~65 on stress testing. But tegrak doesn't support these volatges, It would need to tweak the code. With proper cooling temps can go down to 33 or 30, lets say using the phone in a cool room.
Do you know when are they gonna support higher core voltages(Tegrak OC)?
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When we get source for GB or ics then I can write scripts to tweak the voltages higher for a higher oc, I have been waiting for that lol
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shotchacokov said:
Mine runs stable and quite cool @ 1.62 and I get 4128 quad score, but I have no need to oc the phone with all the tweaks.
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Your phone runs quite cool?? Mine gets warm to the touch around the speaker after playing angry birds for 20mins

Improving benchmark score

Hi all, I'm slightly new to all this and need some advice. I'm on a rooted s2 running westcrips resurrection 1.3 and siyah 3.0.1 kernel. I used to have high benchmark scores with both quadrant and antutu now they seem to be really low; around 2500+ compared to nearly 4000 before.
How important is this and are there any things I can do to improve it?
Cheers in advance
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No I didn't, that could explain it cuz my phone still flies and very rarely experience lag problems, just wondered in case anything was causing an issue that I didn't know about
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bionicjew said:
No I didn't, that could explain it cuz my phone still flies and very rarely experience lag problems, just wondered in case anything was causing an issue that I didn't know about
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to improve benchmark score :
Overclock
Calibrate Your Battery
Rayner1234 said:
to improve benchmark score :
Overclock
Calibrate Your Battery
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What he said is correct , you should root your phone and clean your phone's ram and calibrate your battery , you can also reboot your phone to close apps in the background . I suggest not to use a app task manager .
I have a SGS2 and quadrant score is 3500.
Ive already done reboots and calibrated my battery last this morning and my quadrant score is still only 2167
what kind of effect does over clocking have on battery?
Try flashing a new kernel/ROM
bionicjew said:
Hi all, I'm slightly new to all this and need some advice. I'm on a rooted s2 running westcrips resurrection 1.3 and siyah 3.0.1 kernel. I used to have high benchmark scores with both quadrant and antutu now they seem to be really low; around 2500+ compared to nearly 4000 before.
How important is this and are there any things I can do to improve it?
Cheers in advance
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You can increase your benchmark scores by
1.Over-clocking(increase the speed of the processor)
2.Under-volting(decrease the voltage power)
3.Calibrating Your Battery
Overclocking
If you overclock you will get better quadrant scores however it will eat up you battery life much faster I would only recommend increasing it when playing games or other processor heavy tasks

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