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Hey Guys,
I have a app developed that I have been charging for use, but i am thinking about switching to a ad model and make my app free. I was wondering what advertising options are out there.
I know that admob owns a pretty big market share, but was wondering what are my options regarding how best to choose an advertiser, what are the other advertisers I have to choose from, and is there a benefit of one advertiser vs. another? Which one would pay more? I know this is dependent on how popular my app is.
Thanks for any info provided!!!
I personally use AdMob in my app. It also integrates Google AdSense ads into your app for when AdMob doesn't have an ad to show. I only just released my app a few weeks ago, but it seems like it will generate a pretty decent revenue. I searched before I implemented AdMob, but I really didn't find anything else.
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wow...so admob has a monopoly of sorts in the market eh? So people use admob or get no ad revenue at all?
What about for the apple iphone? I heard there was iAds, and I guess admob as well? Is one better than the other?
can anyone provide anymore insight, or know of a forum which is popular among android/iphone app developers to better answer my question? There don't seem to be that many app developers browsing these forums.
thanks!!!
Personally, i use admob and have 2 apps using it. I don't make much from it (usually around $0.20 a day) but it's better than nothing i guess
As for which ad company to use, it doesn't really matter. They all pay out roughly the same: Millennial, AdMob, JumpTap, MobFox, etc. It's just down to personal preference really
misc86 said:
Hey Guys,
I have a app developed that I have been charging for use, but i am thinking about switching to a ad model and make my app free. I was wondering what advertising options are out there.
I know that admob owns a pretty big market share, but was wondering what are my options regarding how best to choose an advertiser, what are the other advertisers I have to choose from, and is there a benefit of one advertiser vs. another? Which one would pay more? I know this is dependent on how popular my app is.
Thanks for any info provided!!!
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Can you briefly say something about your app? Is it game and what kind?
How many downloads have you had so far?
When it comes to in-app ads the industry offers much more than just regular banners. There are other ad formats that deliver much higher cCPM than banners but their implementation depends on the kind of app you have.
I work for LeadBoltApps - our speciality is Content Locks for example; Ad mob is mostly banners; Airpush does Push Notifications and so on. Hope that helps.
My experience with Ad Networks
I have a weather app and needed to get ads going immediately at launch to fulfill my contractual obligations for the weather data provider.
I tried both Inmobi and Millennial Media. The problem with Inmobi is that they want to review your app and approve it for ads once it is up and available from the store.
Millennial Media was much easier to work with. Ads were running in my test app even before launch. There wasn't any manual approval hurdle to jump through.
I also tried to work with YP.com (AT&T Interactive) since my app uses location and they pay good rates for local ads. They wouldn't talk to me until I get 1M pageviews per month.
Hi all,
I'm Guy from Onavo, and I wanted to share with you all that after much anticipation Onavo (which was available only for the iPhone till now) has come to Android!
Today we launched Onavo Lite, an app that solves the "Android data leak", as we call it. In the world of capped data plans (not to mention outrageous roaming charges), the problem with the Android ecosystem is apps run constantly in the background, which means they can be using data whether you use the app or not. Users have no control and no way to limit the data that is used. Until now.
Launched today, Onavo Lite puts users in control of their data usage. The app flags 'data hog' apps and allows users to make apps 'WiFi only', effectively stopping the data leakage.
The app helps control data usage and costs through features such as:
- Alerts and warnings: when an app is hogging data in the background, when approaching your cap, or when traveling
- Data hog blocking: can opt to block certain apps over 3G, or 3G data in general once you exceed your data cap to avoid any additional costs
- Tracking: Real-time data plan tracking and early alerts when usage reaches certain limits.
- Advice: Tips on best value data plans based on your actual usage
- Simple set up: Removes all the complexity from mobile data plans
If any of you have any questions, feel free to shoot them my way here in the forum. We would love your feedback on our app.
To download just search for "Onavo" on the Market.
I'm happy to see this app finally reach android, but the version for android doesn't do the main thing it does on the iPhone: compress data.
There are already apps that monitor data usage.. so why is this different?
other apps also have notification and that stuff.
So when will the data compressing feature be available?
Hi Ilya,
Compression for Android is definitely on its way, we are working to bring that to you as well. However we realized that to help users truly tame data plans, we needed to deliver a more holistic solution. Since on Android background data usage is a REAL problem (as opposed to iPhone) so we simply couldn't wait to release this to the public and deliver this great value. (Google for "android iphone data usage" to see a post on our blog, from our chief Android guru, on the conceptual differences between Android's and iPhone's data consumption models).
There are some great meters out there, but nothing provides:
a) Real-time alerts when apps are eating up your data in the background
b) Crowdsourced intelligence that lets you learn from our global community and get advance warnings on apps that may be problematic to your data plan.
c) The ability to block apps from using your mobile data in the background.
Add to that compression, when we release that, and you've got a one-stop-shop for all your data usage needs.
I have a few feature requests:
- specify another currency (as I am in a foreign country, it is definitely the wrong one).
- specify the begin of the monthly plan (I can specify this value for the domestic, but not for the roaming plan)
- specify previously used data - I already used some data prior to the installation
After all, looks promising...
Kind regards,
ww
All good points. Quick questions:
a) the app should suggest your own local currency (that of the SIM). This usually makes sense as if you're on your home operator's SIM you pay in your home currency, if you buy a prepaid SIM locally it would be in that country's price. What's the scenario in your case?
b) Can you describe the kind of roaming plan you're using?
Thanks!
Quick answers:
- austrian SIM (EUR), I am in Switzerland at the moment (roaming). Result: currency shown in CHF.
- my plans both begin on 26th of the month. Domestic plan: 1 GB; roaming plan: 50 MB. In the app I can specify the begin of the domestic plan. But: roaming plan begins today from my point of view.
Kind regards,
ww
Gotcha! Thanks for clarifying - definitely stuff we'd like to take care of.
Keep us posted
@webwude - we just uploaded a new version with some bugfixes, among them we have fixed your point #1 about the currency.
Thank your for the information.
I experiencing a strange issue (maybe related to your app):
since this morning, I get timeouts using the standard internet app, k-9 mail, gmail and so on - only a few apps (mail with exchange, provider app) are still working, all other (which I have used in the meantime) seems to be blocked, even after uninstalling your app. Is there any way to reset things as they were before? If I start apps which I haven't used since yesterday, they can connect... otherwise I can see that there is traffic, but browser or market just get timeouts...
It seems, that there is some sort of lock...
I will investigate this furthermore this evening...
Kin regards,
ww
Hi, i have one question. How do i turn the "Roaming, enjoy your trip" notification off? I'm always roaming (it's complicated) so i'm getting a bit annoyed when that notification sticks itself up there and i can't remove it.
Thanks in advance
There appears to be a huge discrepancy between the usage level reported by 3G Watchdog and Onavo - 304MB and 855MB respectively. What's the cause of the discrepancy, and which app would be more reliable?
@webwude - re some apps not connecting, that shouldn't be Onavo (especially not after you removed it). Did you find out what happened?
@BazookaAce - good point! BTW what kind of SIM are you using?
@Kawdess - we're looking into such discrepancies, will let you know what we find.
Tele 2 Sweden, but I live in Norway and my operator is Tele 2 Norway but Tele 2 Norway is roaming on NetComs towers. Tele 2 Norway doesn't have its own yet.
So since the SIM is swedish it "calls home" (to sweden) before bouncing back to norway and completes the call.
So Tele 2 Norway customers roam 24/7. And no, we do not pay more than normal
New Relic is currently incentivizing new customers with three free months of Code School classes. But really, the bribe shouldn’t be necessary. We know, this sounds like the type of hyped-up pitch you might hear on a bad infomercial, but here at XDA, New Relic APM has completely revolutionized our ability to debug application processes, allowing us to speed up the site while reducing server costs. When they wanted to sponsor the site this month, we were thrilled to promote a product that we both know and use (we are very happy paying customers and have been for years). We’ve explored all options for monitoring site performance, but nothing comes close to the insight we gain from New Relic. Every web developer and mobile app developer should at least consider using New Relic. The company offers free trials and lite versions that are free-for-life on both its web app and mobile products, so there’s no reason not to.
XDA has a complex, layered infrastructure with html front-end caching, data store caching via Memcache and APC, and of course, a large database. When the site occasionally slowed down, it was impossible to determine why. On our local and staging development environments, we were able to trace application processes to determine hangups, but when working at scale, serving live pages to millions of users, we couldn’t get the same insight. After installing New Relic’s PHP plugin (they have plugins for just about every application server type), we instantly gained the ability to dig deeper into the application server processes to see where bottlenecks were occurring. The New Relic plugin software allows us to trace all the way back through the application to explore specific functions and database queries and see exactly how long they are taking to execute. We have even been able to use New Relic to assist third-party application developers to optimize their apps to work better on our servers.
Over the past few years as customers, we’ve watched New Relic launch an entire suite of products related to code-level monitoring of application performance. Specifically for mobile app developers, New Relic Mobile provides similar code-level diagnostics as the web app product. You can identify poor code paths; track CPU, memory, and database usage metrics; monitor interactions with external services and APIs; and get insight as to whether performance is being impacted disproportionately in specific geographies or on specific carriers. For a monitoring product that is used by many of the largest apps in the world, the “pro” level pricing is very reasonable ($29 per app per month), and even the free “lite” version still provides significant value.
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I have always known that companies like google and facebook for example collect our data, web searches etc and sell this information for profit. Today, this has become an even bigger issue with what we see in the media with the nsa and other government organizations tapping into our devices and monitoring our usage. At the end of the day, most of us, myself included really dont have anything to hide, so it may not be a real issue. I have often thought that if anyone poked around in my pc or phone they would simply get bored as they are just full of geeky engineering files lol. The real thing for me is simply that it's an invasion of privacy and just not right. With that said, I find myself wanting to go the extra mile to make my pc and my phone completely private from outside sources taking my information, watching my web searches and seeing my data. My question is, is it possible to be 100% secure and private, and if not, how close can we get, and how? I have heard that VPN's can achieve this. Is this true? and if so are there any free secure VPN's for our android devices and or pc's that are really good? Do VPN's slow down our devices? Also, Is there a way when we delete android files to permanently delete them? I noticed when I flashed my rom, after doing the complete wipe that is still contains files from before the wipe.
(I know this isn't a pc forum, I only included the pc because it's relevant.)
Thank you all in advance.
There are no data retention laws in the United States. Meaning, if a data center does not want to hold any logs to their users' activity, they're not required by law to do so. Multiple countries are similar, which is why I recommend using Private Internet Access for your VPN. They have a client for PC and Android and they're really great. I've been using them for many years and have had no issues. And, if you're really wanting to remain "anonymous", you can pay for your VPN subscription using gift cards from popular outlets like Walmart, Starbucks, etc. And for search engines, I'd recommend DuckDuckGo, which doesn't log anything you search. For PC, I'd recommend disabling your IPv6 protocol in your router settings and getting uBlock Origin, HTTPS Everywhere, and PrivacyBadger. They're wonderful add-ons for Firefox or Chrome. uBlock Origin and PrivacyBadger can block WebRTC leaks which would leak your IP address and can be used to identify you. If you want more information, feel free to reply to my post and I'll help you out as much as I can.
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There are no data retention laws in the United States. Meaning, if a data center does not want to hold any logs to their users' activity, they're not required by law to do so. Multiple countries are similar, which is why I recommend using Private Internet Access for your VPN. They have a client for PC and Android and they're really great. I've been using them for many years and have had no issues. And, if you're really wanting to remain "anonymous", you can pay for your VPN subscription using gift cards from popular outlets like Walmart, Starbucks, etc. And for search engines, I'd recommend DuckDuckGo, which doesn't log anything you search. For PC, I'd recommend disabling your IPv6 protocol in your router settings and getting uBlock Origin, HTTPS Everywhere, and PrivacyBadger. They're wonderful add-ons for Firefox or Chrome. uBlock Origin and PrivacyBadger can block WebRTC leaks which would leak your IP address and can be used to identify you. If you want more information, feel free to reply to my post and I'll help you out as much as I can.
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Hoxic,
Thank you for all of the information. With the private internet access VPN on my PC and android, will that slow down anything like web surfing, uploads or downloads? I am limited to using Verizon's high speed DSL connection as they refer to it, (I refer to it as slowest speed connection lol) in my neighborhood and this is the only provider for me so it's already pretty slow compared to Fios and other broadband connections. I would hate to slow it down any more.
You mention to pay for these services using gift cards and such. Well as I mentioned, I do not have anything that I am actually worried about anyone seeing, this is simply my way of trying to protect my privacy so I wouldn't go that far but I am curious about that statement. Do you mean that using a VPN truly isn't private or is this just to remove any paper trail linking me to the use of a VPN provider? I have been using DuckDuckGo for several years already just to stop google from taking and selling my info. Weather it truly works or not I dont know but its a great search engine anyway so I figured why not use it.
Your advice to disabling IPv6 protocol in my router settings: I do not see anywhere in my router settings to do this so I googled it, and it looks like there's a way o do this in windows. Is that different that what you're advising? Also I read a windows blog on this and windows 10 says IPv6 is a mandatory part of Windows that they do not advise on disabling. Can you give me some more detail on this, and how to disable it, assuming the windows warning is bull.
Thanks for all of your help.
VPN Do you use one, do you notice ?
Yes I know why using a VPN is a good idea, hides you location.
Have thought about using one but a few concerns.
Price .... something like Express VPN is not free
Does a VPN slow your device ?
VPNs are great for privacy and bypassing location locked content. Recommend them for everyone especially if you are on public wifi networks a lot.
Does it slow your phone? No
Does it slow your connection? Slightly - depends on the vpn service and server you are connected to.
ExpressVPN is not the only VPN service out there. You can also look into Nord, PIA, CyberGhost, Tunnelbear.
FYI - Free VPNs aren't really free. They limit your bandwidth, show ads on connection and possibly do store some of that data being transferred. Best option is to go with a well known paid one. It is worth the $5-$15 per month for the privacy.
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VPNs are great for privacy and bypassing location locked content. Recommend them for everyone especially if you are on public wifi networks a lot.
Does it slow your phone? No
Does it slow your connection? Slightly - depends on the vpn service and server you are connected to.
ExpressVPN is not the only VPN service out there. You can also look into Nord, PIA, CyberGhost, Tunnelbear.
FYI - Free VPNs aren't really free. They limit your bandwidth, show ads on connection and possibly do store some of that data being transferred. Best option is to go with a well known paid one. It is worth the $5-$15 per month for the privacy.
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I have been using VPN for years.
Performance impact hasn't been an issue since three or four phone generations ago.
It does have a small impact on battery usage.
Free VPN sucks. They rarely work when you need it, and when it does work the speed is all over the place.
Commercial VPN service quality varies depending on your ISP and how you plan on using it. The reputable VPN usually offers some kind of trial period so you can try them out and decide for yourself.
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VPN Do you use one?
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Yes. I concur with the above statements.
Phishing, have a lot of attacks yesterday for example "iTunes" sent a receipt for an expensive pack, they wanted me to get mad and click on the link..... I am not that stupid.
Netflix, if they trace a VPN well they can simply block access. They know I am Canadian from my login I am not sure how VPNs can get around Netflix content block.
Torrents, never done them
China I never plan on going
Tell me even still, money no object want do you recommend
Thanks guys, I do not think I will bother.
Reasons for VPN
You can not be traced, do not do torrents.
Hacking my security guy says sure in theory on open WiFi but he has not seen the happen
Get international websites Netflix, well some claim this is possible
If you ever visit a place like China
Not sure it is worth the money.
AstroDigital said:
Thanks guys, I do not think I will bother.
Reasons for VPN
You can not be traced, do not do torrents.
Hacking my security guy says sure in theory on open WiFi but he has not seen the happen
Get international websites Netflix, well some claim this is possible
If you ever visit a place like China
Not sure it is worth the money.
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1. Some VPN services offer torrent protection.
2. My parents got phished using wifi at the library. I rather go offline than use public wifi.
3. Only some VPN can do Netflix. It's not trivial but mine does.
4. VPN is absolutely necessary for visiting China. It's the ultimate testing ground of VPN's technical ability. There are rumors that the reason some VPN can work flawlessly in China is because they are phishing agencies of Chinese government.
I am trying Express VPN, seven day trial.
So far no big deal.
Yep, I use IPVanish. Very fast, hardly notice a speed difference on downloads (but it is slightly slower, to be expected) and web traffic. It does nothing to the speed of my phone.
I use it when I use my banking apps, downloads and location blocking.
I have an Asus router with a VPN Server so free for me. I can connect to it when I'm out or even overseas. The IP isn't identified as a VPN service to any streaming service. I can use it along with some other trickery to prevent my cell carrier from throttling certain content including video or tethering. My way of taking back net neutrality.
Testing Express VPN, first day it sucked 10% battery life.
Slightly slower downloads is ok, but the battery life on the One Plus 7 Pro is not great.
larsdennert said:
I have an Asus router with a VPN Server so free for me. I can connect to it when I'm out or even overseas. The IP isn't identified as a VPN service to any streaming service. I can use it along with some other trickery to prevent my cell carrier from throttling certain content including video or tethering. My way of taking back net neutrality.
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Are you connecting using open vpn client?
Yes but PPTP with the built in Android VPN also works. I think OpenVPN can use custom ports so someone can't block VPN so easily.
Asus makes amazing Routers! Not quite as customizable as DDWRT but more reliable and they get regular updates.
VPN's are great for internet privacy!
I use VPN apps to protect my internet privacy from espionage. And I think you should too.
I've tried several FREE VPNs but to tell you the truth - they suck and they're slow!
Paid VPNs are much faster. It's better that you first go for a trial version and if you are satisfied with their performance then buy their services.
You shouldn't compromise on your internet safety especially if you make purchases.
I understand a lot of people in this forum buy phones online, and you definitely need protection when you are in the transaction process.
I would round off by suggesting that you should learn more about cybersecurity and internet privacy. I personally use PureVPN, they've been pretty good but everything has their downside, but overall they make you safe and that's what matters the most.
Today vpns are not as useful for privacy as all communication is generally already encrypted at the app level anyway. They are more useful for being able to route connections that are otherwise blocked.
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Today vpns are not as useful for privacy as all communication is generally already encrypted at the app level anyway. They are more useful for being able to route connections that are otherwise blocked.
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Still they make it quite a lot harder for your provider to track your usage and for websites and e.g. Facebook trackers to track usage back to you.
You are correct. Your browsing history is obscured. You also need to make sure you are not still using your cell carriers DNS server with the VPN or you'll be just calling them back again.
the vpn provider can see what you are doing so you have to ask yourself if you can trust them, what country are them based in and what are the laws there, and if the risk is acceptable.
if not set up a vpn on you router if it supports it, or on your home pc, i trust my local ISP with local laws more than a random company in another country.
I use and recommend PIA. They have an abundance of servers around the world. I don't notice a big difference in loading speed for average web browsing. One account covers all my computers and devices. They do not log user activity which is the biggest advantage for me. The cost is quite reasonable if you subscribe for 1 or 2 years.
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I use and recommend PIA. They have an abundance of servers around the world. I don't notice a big difference in loading speed for average web browsing. One account covers all my computers and devices. They do not log user activity which is the biggest advantage for me. The cost is quite reasonable if you subscribe for 1 or 2 years.
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Have you heard? PIA was bought out recently. Apparently the company that bought them are questionable at best. I still have some time left on my subscription but I am considering changing VPNs. I just love how easy PIA is.