Ok, I was on factory stock. I had all of the programs I wanted working and functional. I've been using MyBackupPro in order to backup all of my settings and apps.
After I install a new ROM, I restore all of my apps and settings using MyBackup Pro. However, I get nothing but issues. Many apps force close, apps don't show up in the app drawer, and I have to reorganize my home screen due to broken app links. Needless to say, it's a pain in the ass to switch ROMs.
Is there a painless way to backup all of your stuff and restore everything onto a new ROM? Taking hours to restore what I once had is no longer fun.
Now, I know there's Titanium Backup. If you like using it and it works for you perfectly, please tell me the EXACT steps you use to backup your apps and settings. Just telling me to "use Titanium" is not helpful. Thanks.
Nevermind. I just said screw it and paid for Titanium Pro. It cleaned up the mess.
However, I will say that using Titanium Pro is like using a bulldozer to make a sandcastle.
DangerZone1223 said:
Nevermind. I just said screw it and paid for Titanium Pro. It cleaned up the mess.
However, I will say that using Titanium Pro is like using a bulldozer to make a sandcastle.
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you never want to restore data if coming from one rom to a different rom. you will get lots of Fc's among other issues. just restore the apks.
simms22 said:
you never want to restore data if coming from one rom to a different rom. you will get lots of Fc's among other issues. just restore the apks.
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Psh never had a problem unless I was restoring system APKs and data. Then you're dead. I was always fine restoring games and apps and their data even switching from a ROM to another.
I've always used Titanium Backup to completely back up all of my apps just before wiping, resetting, and installing a new ROM, then restoring. Someone told me that in essence, the Google app store does the same thing, so long as your phone is set to back up your apps. If this is the case, which process does everyone here prefer?
I still use tibu. Google is unreliable. You can't force it to restore.
hartford said:
I've always used Titanium Backup to completely back up all of my apps just before wiping, resetting, and installing a new ROM, then restoring. Someone told me that in essence, the Google app store does the same thing, so long as your phone is set to back up your apps. If this is the case, which process does everyone here prefer?
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Not exactly the same. The Play Store will restore your apps without data. In essence, it just redownloads all your apps so you don't have to. TiBu will store data as well. Also, TiBu will backup and restore any app that you installed from outside the Play Store (like Swiftkey 3 Beta or the Amazon App Store) and restore apps much faster (since they are already downloaded, all it has to do is batch install them).
TiBu has a plethora of features too like automatic backups and syncing and such. However, restoring your apps with data may cause some headaches sometimes. For instance, restoring Friendcaster Pro with data after doing a wipe will break push notifications until I remove my Facebook account and re-login. Though restoring data to something like Tasker is freaking great since I don't have to go through the hassle of setting up all my profiles again.
Thank you very much for confirming my thoughts. I'm a long-time Titanium Backup user, and I don't doubt that sometimes the app store restoration process can be unreliable. I shall continue with what I know works, and works well!
I know there are a lot of posts on how to restore apps after flashing a new ROM. I have only done this twice so far and both times I used Titanium Pro to restore the apps and data. However each time I have had a number of apps that didn't work or didn't work correctly until I uninstalled and then reinstalled them. If I let the Play Store reinstall my apps (and side load the ones not in the store) I shouldn't have this problem. I was wondering if anyone could comment on how long that approach would take and what issues I may run into doing it that way. I don't really need to reinstall the data for many apps and I have those settings, etc. (like Nova Launcher and Elixir) backed up where the program can reload them after I install it.
Thanks for any experiences you can share and any advice you can provide.
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I know there are a lot of posts on how to restore apps after flashing a new ROM. I have only done this twice so far and both times I used Titanium Pro to restore the apps and data. However each time I have had a number of apps that didn't work or didn't work correctly until I uninstalled and then reinstalled them. If I let the Play Store reinstall my apps (and side load the ones not in the store) I shouldn't have this problem. I was wondering if anyone could comment on how long that approach would take and what issues I may run into doing it that way. I don't really need to reinstall the data for many apps and I have those settings, etc. (like Nova Launcher and Elixir) backed up where the program can reload them after I install it.
Thanks for any experiences you can share and any advice you can provide.
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Try gobackup not the pro version, just the free one before it was tooken down from the play store. I believe you can Google search the apk.
Wyvern49 said:
I know there are a lot of posts on how to restore apps after flashing a new ROM. I have only done this twice so far and both times I used Titanium Pro to restore the apps and data. However each time I have had a number of apps that didn't work or didn't work correctly until I uninstalled and then reinstalled them. If I let the Play Store reinstall my apps (and side load the ones not in the store) I shouldn't have this problem. I was wondering if anyone could comment on how long that approach would take and what issues I may run into doing it that way. I don't really need to reinstall the data for many apps and I have those settings, etc. (like Nova Launcher and Elixir) backed up where the program can reload them after I install it.
Thanks for any experiences you can share and any advice you can provide.
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It can be pretty quick or it can take seemingly forever depending on the number of apps you have. I have a little 130 and it takes about 2 hours, on a constant 12mbps (1.3-6MBps) connection.
I had a problem when I first used Tibu with Maildroid being crazy as hell until I uninstalled it, reinstalled it, and set it back up. I was also having the same problem when I restored a CWM backup. I went and deleted every backup I had made in Tibu and all my nandroids and tried backing the apps up again and it worked for about 3 flashes and then Maildroid was going crazy again. I finally just Odin'ed back to stock cause I was having a few other issues, GPS & NFC, and once I went back to stock VRALG7 and fully wiped everything and rerooted, flashed recovery, and unlocked I haven't had a problem with anything since. The only thing I have changed is my recovery, went to TWRP, and everything is smooth sailing. I had been using CWM touch, it was the latest version that I was on before Odin'ing, and I really think there is some kind of issue with CWM not backing up right because I had tons of issues and even when restoring to the stock ROM my phone came out of the box on I couldn't get GPS or NFC to work.
But if you don't have many apps you could let the Play store restore you apps, I never used Tibu until this phone and was really skeptical of it cause of the corrupted Maildroid problems I was having but this is hands down one of the best apps I own. Also I'm pretty sure you can use ROM Manager to backup your apps and restore them.
If I were you I would wipe the Tibu backup folder, after you had completely re-downloaded and installed your apps from the market, and then back them up again and see if that worked. Also my Maps backup never ever works, I have to re-download it every time.
There is also MyBackup Pro, I used it before this phone, but its not great in the GS3. It takes about 45 minutes to back up my apps and it freezes constantly, never had this problem with it until this phone though.
You could also try using Tibu's flashable zip creator that was just added. It makes a flashable zip of you app backup folder so you still want to redo all your apps to make sure that it just isn't a once in a lifetime bug that cause a couple of your apps to be corrupted.
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Best way I have found is to use AppMonster Pro.
That app allows you to make an "old style backup" which saves the APK from every app you have installed.
That way, after you flash a rom, you can click the APKs and do a true clean install of every app which is FAR more dependable than a TIBU restore. Although I have TIBU Pro, I rarely use it anymore.
Thanks everyone. All the info is much appreciated.
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Best way I have found is to use AppMonster Pro.
That app allows you to make an "old style backup" which saves the APK from every app you have installed.
That way, after you flash a rom, you can click the APKs and do a true clean install of every app which is FAR more dependable than a TIBU restore. Although I have TIBU Pro, I rarely use it anymore.
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If you actually look in the Tibu folder it saves all of apps as APK's also and you can choose to back up your apps without the app data. The way I've always always understood it is that you can do a true clean install with Tibu too. Now I may be wrong with this but that's just the way I've understood it.
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Thanks everyone. All the info is much appreciated.
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I hope you figure out how to keep the apps from becoming corrupted. If you do let us know what worked and what all you went through before the apps stopped installing corrupted.
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I just use Titanium Backup.
I'm going to give TiBu a try first since I think it will be the quickest way to do this. I also did a backup using AppMonster. If I run into issues with TiBu I'll start over again and try AppMonster. All I need now is a block of time to do the update. First Thanksgiving, then taking my grandson to see the train display at the Botanical Gardens, today out with both daughters (separately) helping with their Christmas shopping and doing some of our own. Maybe tomorrow I'll have a free block of time.
I'll let everyone know how it goes. Thanks again.
I've made the switch to ROM toolbox. The free version let's me batch install apps just no data which I prefer anyways. Then I don't have to click for every app.
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I finally got time to update to Clean ROM 5.0 and it went fairly well. I used TiBu but had a few apps that had to be reinstalled so I used the AppMonster backup apk's and everything went well. Restoring the data via TiBu went well for all of my apps that need it done except for Red Laser which lost all the loyalty card info. Not a big deal as its easy to rescan the cards.
Thanks again for all the advice and info.
Maybe i'm just a noob but i dont understand how these backup apps work. I've backed up my apps then rom'd my phone but can't get my apps back cause the back up app isn't there anymore... Is it in the cwm recovery ? Confused
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Depends on the backup app you use. In general, you can install the backup app from Play Store and then you should be able to use it to restore your backed up apps. If you use a backup app the saves your apps as apk files, just install them from the apk. You can also install the apps from the Play Store again like you did originally.
Hope this helps.
I have been using TiBu for a long time and it works great and saves a huge amount of time. Sometimes I also get an app acting wacky after a flash. Just use it and if you have a problem with an app just go to settings and clear data for the specific app. It will save a lot of time doing it that way!!
Is there any issues with restoring User Apps & Data that were backed up under an ICS ROM, onto a flashed JellyBean ROM? I wouldn't think so, but wanted to ask. I know system apps & data would be bad, but not sure about user apps.
Wyvern49 said:
I know there are a lot of posts on how to restore apps after flashing a new ROM. I have only done this twice so far and both times I used Titanium Pro to restore the apps and data. However each time I have had a number of apps that didn't work or didn't work correctly until I uninstalled and then reinstalled them. If I let the Play Store reinstall my apps (and side load the ones not in the store) I shouldn't have this problem. I was wondering if anyone could comment on how long that approach would take and what issues I may run into doing it that way. I don't really need to reinstall the data for many apps and I have those settings, etc. (like Nova Launcher and Elixir) backed up where the program can reload them after I install it.
Thanks for any experiences you can share and any advice you can provide.
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I use super back up , its free and backs up apps , sms ,contacts ,call logs and calander. It also has batch install
I use titanium, have been using it for years. Restoring apps plus data can cause them to be a little screwy. I only restore data on games.
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Try this. Make a Nandroid. If you're flashing a ROM that uses the same version of Android, just restore data. When flashing nightlies I learned, that all you have to do is WIPE, flash your ROM, then do an advanced restore of data only (No TiBU, you do this before you leave recovery). Now everything is there, nice and clean, homescreen, apps, setup, and even your alarm clock! Takes 5 minutes.
I'm stilla newb so if you're like "duh," don't flame me! :laugh::laugh:
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Try this. Make a Nandroid. If you're flashing a ROM that uses the same version of Android, just restore data. When flashing nightlies I learned, that all you have to do is WIPE, flash your ROM, then do an advanced restore of data only (No TiBU, you do this before you leave recovery). Now everything is there, nice and clean, homescreen, apps, setup, and even your alarm clock! Takes 5 minutes.
I'm stilla newb so if you're like "duh," don't flame me! :laugh::laugh:
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That works, but if you're doing that don't bother factory resetting before flashing. All you do is erase the data to put it back on
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kintwofan said:
That works, but if you're doing that don't bother factory resetting before flashing. All you do is erase the data to put it back on
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OK cool! I knew I was putting the data back on but I guess I thought I was wiping other things as well with this method.
Thanks for that!
lennie paz said:
I just use Titanium Backup.
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Same here and I've never had any problems with it. I was restoring apps+data but I started having problems after I became a flashaholic so now I only restore apps and spend the extra time relogging in/setting up my apps. Yes it takes longer but it'll save you from problems in the long run.
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So I've been using Helium Backup to restore my apps when switch between ROMs and phones.
When I backup the applications, I backup the apps + data to avoid having to use bandwidth to download the appliations from the play store.
On a number of occasions, the applications that I restore have had problems. Random black boxes, incorrect colouring, and the latest was missing all text. This is something that really bothers me since I like to flash new ROMs but also like to maintain my position in games.
My question is, would it be more reliable to just back up the data and download the applications manually from the play store? Is helium not as good as titanium backup? Is there something else I should be doing?
Is there a way to resolve the issues I currently have?
I don't know helium, but titanium backup is restoring all apps and data without problems. Even a high amount...
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rtanner85 said:
I don't know helium, but titanium backup is restoring all apps and data without problems. Even a high amount...
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Thank you for the tip. In fact, the most amazing thing happened. I decided to give Titanium Backup a shot. I backed up the corrupted apps and then restored them with Titanium, and to my amazement the apps were fixed! So I guess I just learned something everyone else already knew -- Titanium is a much stronger element than Helium.
I guess for anyone who has corrupted applications caused by Helium or other backup tools - give Titanium Backup a shot to see if it will correct the problem.
problem solved?
Very good.so I guess your problem is solved? If my help was helpfull, pls hit thanks button
I've switched ROMs often in these past few days, and one of the few things that annoy me is that I lose my SMS every time. Is there a way to backup and restore? I thought of Titanium, but then I know it's not ideal to use Titanium after clean installs
Alex
alexm231 said:
I've switched ROMs often in these past few days, and one of the few things that annoy me is that I lose my SMS every time. Is there a way to backup and restore? I thought of Titanium, but then I know it's not ideal to use Titanium after clean installs
Alex
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I've always used this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore
Saves SMS messages to an xml file on the device.
surrealjam said:
I've always used this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore
Saves SMS messages to an xml file on the device.
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Looks to be exactly what I was after!
I should have thought to look around in the play store, I just never believed there would be a dedicated app for that.
Thanks for the help!
Alex
Titanium works great... I restore all my SMS and MMS all the time when flashing new ROMs. Never had an issue.
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There's no problem using titanium on clean installs but the onus is on the user to understand the difference between data/app data, system/app data and why clean installs are required in the first place.
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Titanium backup has an option in the menu to back up sms/mms to xml. Much cleaner than contact/phone data in normal backup options on there
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Yeah, careful who you listen to. Lol
Titanium backup is an amazing tool for flashers.
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Never had a problem restoring SMS/MMS from Titanium...
try Hover Chat ... it offers message backup and has a preety nice pop-up window for messages - I find that very useful
I use the PRO versions ( more skins )
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninja.sms.promo
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There's no problem using titanium on clean installs but the onus is on the user to understand the difference between data/app data, system/app data and why clean installs are required in the first place.
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Is that why on some roms the phone process FCs when I use titanium to restore sms/mms? I've been using titanium for quite a while now and experience this from time to time, but never took the time to look into it. The only thing that resolves the problem is throwing the phone into airplane mode and clearing the phone data I had just restored.
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Is that why on some roms the phone process FCs when I use titanium to restore sms/mms? I've been using titanium for quite a while now and experience this from time to time, but never took the time to look into it. The only thing that resolves the problem is throwing the phone into airplane mode and clearing the phone data I had just restored.
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Yes I would suspect so.
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