[Q] Jogging/Running App Request - General Questions and Answers

Yes I know, noob here. I've looked in all the threads I can find and on the marketplace but I just can't seem to find the app I want for running (like the Running Room).
Basic premise is an Analog Clock face where you could mark the time you want to take (ie, 45min, 30min, 25min, etc) on a run and then mark multiple spots where you want an action to take place. ie, run for 3 minutes then walk for 1 min, or run for 2 and walk 2, or 1/1 etc and have different notification sounds possible for each that would not interfear with your musicplayer (ie, you can hear it but it wouldn't crash it or close it etc).
I know this is probally the wrong spot but I am unable to post in the right spot as I am 'noob'. I'm really surprised the Running Room or Garmin don't have an app like this as this is how their running works, in stages with walk breaks in between. Not really looking for gps, pedemeter etc just the basics, clock face and the ability to mark diff color points with notification sounds and to set time spent running (or infinite, just set #/# interval).
Anybody know of an app like this or have the ability to code one, the last coding I did was c64 with visual basic so I'm......lacking.....lol
Thank you,
Steve (WarrGrinn/Deathstalker/Thor 911)

Anyone?, Bueller.....

Sigh, bumpity....

Have you looked into Endomondo?
Not sure it is can do everything you're looking for

Adidas makes a nice app... Thinks it's called adidas micoach. It's free. Maybe it will work for your needs..
Sent @ 04:20

Thank you, Yes I've looked and the Adidas one, havn't really gotten too deep into it, more just want a 'click and play' type app where there is just the options I need without alot of extra's or accounts etc. I love the 'minimal' apps that xda members have made (clock, text , etc.) and was hoping for something as simple. Ah well, few more posts and I can post in another forum I guess

Could you elaborate a bit more, describe some details?
What is the problem with the other running apps, they can't all require rocket science to use?
I'm always looking for ideas for new apps...
If there is nothing already there that fits that purpose, i might be willing to invest some hours .

Dark3n said:
Could you elaborate a bit more, describe some details?
What is the problem with the other running apps, they can't all require rocket science to use?
I'm always looking for ideas for new apps...
If there is nothing already there that fits that purpose, i might be willing to invest some hours .
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Sorry it took so long for a response, kinda lazy here
I'm looking for a general 'clock' app, analog clock dial face with touch-points all around the dial, inner circle is seconds, outer circle is minutes. Ability to set a specific time for a run (ex, 45 min) and then divide that time into run/rest periods (ie, 5min run, then 1 min rest) along the dial and even have differing periods in the run (ie, after fourth run of 5 min a 3 min rest then 8 min run, etc).
Would like ability to set notification sounds (pick sound/s) for each 'event' along the run that inturrupt music/etc the phone is playing but not crash/stop it.
If it takes off advance stuff like compass/gps etc can be added but I'm just looking for a glorified stopwatch (analog style, like the old huge clocks that had tabs you could slide around for laps and times etc at the pool or gym) so I don't have to hog my mothers 'Garman' running sattelite watch, lol.

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[REQ] 3D carousel Task Switcher

Like the one in SPB mobile shell, but for apps rather than avalible screens.
like this one http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
mmmalas said:
Like the one in SPB mobile shell, but for apps rather than avalible screens.
like this one http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
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not sure about this.... what if only 2 open apps? or 20 apps? how to scroll? What seems more user friendly is something like coverflow/music tab, per app like one screenshot and can swipe between apps. It is however a very big load for the system i think....
mouki_9 said:
not sure about this.... what if only 2 open apps? or 20 apps? how to scroll? What seems more user friendly is something like coverflow/music tab, per app like one screenshot and can swipe between apps. It is however a very big load for the system i think....
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if you open 2 apps, then you have 2 windows opposite to each others, with 20 windows then big carousel .
system usage not going to be much unless you are navigating the task switcher, but once it dissapear then no need for it to run with full memory
Hmm...
mmmalas said:
if you open 2 apps, then you have 2 windows opposite to each others, with 20 windows then big carousel .
system usage not going to be much unless you are navigating the task switcher, but once it dissapear then no need for it to run with full memory
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Having a look at this now... It is actually a little more complex than you think though. Even before we go anywhere near the carousel part (3D is well out of my league) you still have to think about how your going to get the screenshots to display on it:
Windows only actually performs paint operations on active windows therefore we need to take screenshots of that active window, how are we going to do that?
a) Use a timer taking screen shots at regular intervals (every few secs or so) of the currently active window using the last one taken as the screenshot when inactive - Obviously this still does require both memory and proc time to perform even when whatever UI you create is not actually active. This however is the most likely to work solution to the problem.
b) See if there is any way you can catch a window at the moment it is being minimized - This is potentially difficult but would probably be the most accurate. However this is may not actually possible (need to research a little more though) - i.e. can you actually catch the window before it actually minimizes or are you always going to be too late and end up capturing nothing. Kind of like trying to photograph a bullet from a gun using a handheld camera by listening for the sound of it firing (capturing the close event on the window and acting on it before the actual window it was sent to acts on that event) <---- Maybe a more experienced dev has some thought on this?
I also agree with mouki a little on this one in terms of usability. As much as your idea is much cooler to look at after about two days I would want to swap it for something where I could actually efficiently switch between tasks rather than rolling through an endless carousel trying to find that *bloody* app I wanted to switch too.
I'm going to see what I can come up with but I think it's going to end up being tile based as that is the most efficient as you'll be able to see more at one time but definitely like the idea of having thumbnails rather than just names for a switcher...
However I'm working on another project though at the mo (Leo as a fully customisable remote control for our PC's) so wont have much time just now to look at a switcher project, however will keep you posted on what I find out...
this will be more usable really in terms of switching, as you will have photo of what you are switching to rather than just a name.
it all depends on how your memeory works really.
remember how you switch windows in MS windows with alt tab, or win+tab.
its less usage on the brain that way.
as for closing, you dont care about closing, since once its closed then there is no need to display. what you care about is minimizing, or when win is inactive.
I can do this type of application on the PC very easily using AutoHotKey script. however I have no clue how PPC programing is done
A starter for ten
Fortunately my background in programming comes from the .net framework so it's reasonably easy to make the jump to .net compact framework ppc (even if I've got to get used to the reduced ammount of functions). I can see how this would be different for you... I've just taken a look at what AutoHotKey is probably the nearest equivelent for you would be MortScript (Pretty powerful)
Heres our starter for ten anyway in vb.net: http://anoriginalidea.wordpress.com/2008/01/03/getting-a-screenshot-using-vbnet-on-the-compact-framework-20/ <--- This shows the library that would be used to capture the screen shots.

Tick! A convenient timer!

Hi everybody !
After a year of lurking, i've published my first app !
It's called Tick! and it's a simple timer but i've worked hard on making it easy to launch.
Since there is no wheel selector on the sdk, I've developed one to set the number of minutes wanted. With three clicks, you can launch a timer to remaind you that your pastas or your eggs are ready !
Your comments are welcome !
Since I'm new on the forum, I'm currently not allowed to post external links, so if you want to try it, search for Tick! on the market or SlideMe. I will put images, links and QR-Code as soon as i will be allowed !
RabugenTom
Nice app. Any plans on releasing the source
Any chance for an APK for those of us without data?
Nice
Good Work Buddy works perfectly on Xperia X10i
Thanks for the replies ! I've added the apk posted on the market.
I'm working on an improved version !
Agreed, Great work RabugenTom. Love the custom wheel selection.
Have to admit, though, I'm dying to have multiple timers. I'm not sure off the top of my head how they would fit in with your snazzy countdown timeline, but I'm sure it could be done.
+1 for release of the source
Love the app... Mightve been nice if it worked with 30sec increments as well but that might just be me, and there are other more robust timer apps for when you need that i guess.
One thing I noticed though... If the app is open and showing on the screen (IE - not in the background while working on something else or on one of the home screens), Tapping the app notification (in the notifications pane) will "reopen" the apps interface, and this can be done multiple times.
Basically you end up with multiple instances of the same timer... So if youre looking to go back to whatever was open before - home screen or other - by pressing the back button, youll just close the last instance you "opened" via the notification, taking you back to the previous instance of that same timer, and so on until you reach the first one that was opened when you started the app.
It doesnt seem to affect the functionality of the app in any way that ive seen, but it is rather odd.
Sort of like tapping the notification calls on the wrong "show" function, opening a new window rather than un-hiding the original.
Thanks for the feedbacks !
I'm working on an improved version with pause mode, multiple timers and 30s increments. I will maybe release the source later, after a lot of cleaning !
For the notifications, it's the behavior of android which works by intents. Theses are sort of messages send to applications. Intents depends on something they call Context. This is very powerful since you can launch (or do whatever you want to) an application in different ways, and the behavior of the application can depend on the intent. For example, when you launch an application from the launcher on the home screen, you actually send an intent to the application.
In the Tick! case, when you click on the notification, you send an intent to bring back to foreground (if hidden) or relaunch (if closed) the application GUI (which is different from the counting "engine" which is a background process called Service). The intent sent from the notification is different from the one you used to launch it, thats why it relaunch the GUI because the system thinks it is a different context (which is the case).
You can try it : launch from the launcher, launch a timer, go back to the home screen. Now, the GUI is no more in foreground. If you open the notification bar an click on the notification it will relaunch the GUI as expected, and if you continue to click on it again, it will do nothing (as expected). That's because the second time you launched the app, you did it by sending an intent from the notificiation bar, which is different from the one from the launcher.
Now, i don't find this behavior very annoying, and I don't want to write 100 lines of code to handle differents cases! A trivial solution may exist, but I'm too novice with Android to look at it. If someone knows this easy solution, it will be a pleasure to implement it !
Very nice timer. However I have found two problems:
1. When selecting the notification tone, "Default" plays my ringtone when previewing, but when used for real it plays the default notification sound instead.
2. I used Tick for a five minute countdown several hours ago, and afterwards I exited the program and cleared the notification, but it still prevented my phone from sleeping all these hours, draining the battery severely. I had to use a process killer to get my phone to sleep.
Do you really need to keep the phone from sleeping, even during the countdown? A timer is just an alarm with a countdown, and alarms work even when the phone is sleeping. You just have to update the progress every time the phone wakes up. Right?
Hi,
1-I will look on the notification problem. It is quite strange since it always worked for me. Note that the parameter are set for the notification at the launch of the counter. Every change you make will affect only new countdowns. When you exit the app, it always save the last parameters, even made during a countdown, and restore them at a relaunch. So it is strange, and since i've improved again the counting engine, I hope this will be solved in the coming release.
2-You're right, I've found conditions when the wake-lock is not released at the end of the countdown. It's set now. However, the wake-lock requested is partial and does only concern the CPU, not the screen. I've tested again your version on my unplugged G2 and it behave just well.
The CPU is required to fire an alarm even in sleep mode. Thats because i don't use the alarm service of the device which only check every new minute if there is something to do.
And when it's in sleep mode, only a tiny service is counting. The GUI is stopped and it's memory given back.
May I ask what model of phone you use?
RabugenTom said:
May I ask what model of phone you use?
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I'm using an HTC Desire.
I've just added here (and on the market) the version 1.3 which resolves a lot of issues (for exemple, the service exits as soon as it's no more used, thanks to bugmenever) and adds a pause mode (long click on the button)
RabugenTom said:
Now, i don't find this behavior very annoying, and I don't want to write 100 lines of code to handle differents cases! A trivial solution may exist, but I'm too novice with Android to look at it. If someone knows this easy solution, it will be a pleasure to implement it !
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im fairly certain there is something simple out there to handle this, but as opposed to you being novice with android, i have 0 experience programming for it. and youre right, its not THAT annoying, and certainly not worth most your work time at this point.
Happy to hear about all those plans though! look forward to seeing them in action
keep up the good work!

[Request] [App] work hours logs?

hi there well i work every night at 12am til whenever as a part time job while i continue my education during the day. well this company is known to mess up your hours. i know i can easily write them down in the notes or the calendar but i never know when my job is done so i gotta always write down something differet and i wanted to see if theres an app or if someone can create an app where its like a calandar type of app but with an 8th row after the Saturday (or sunday. whichever way they wanna end the week) that is like a total row that automatically adds up how many hours you work that week so you have quick and instant access to your hours in case you need to access them quickly. so is there an app like that or can someone pretty please make such an app? a widget doesnt have to be necessary but it could like make it sweeter
xXJay_RXx said:
hi there well i work every night at 12am til whenever as a part time job while i continue my education during the day. well this company is known to mess up your hours. i know i can easily write them down in the notes or the calendar but i never know when my job is done so i gotta always write down something differet and i wanted to see if theres an app or if someone can create an app where its like a calandar type of app but with an 8th row after the Saturday (or sunday. whichever way they wanna end the week) that is like a total row that automatically adds up how many hours you work that week so you have quick and instant access to your hours in case you need to access them quickly. so is there an app like that or can someone pretty please make such an app? a widget doesnt have to be necessary but it could like make it sweeter
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I just looked up "timesheet" in the market and myTimeSheet and Time Recording - Timesheet both look pretty good. I (obviously) can't vouch for either of them, but there were 22 results just for timesheet.
i use timeclock by spotlight six, it was a buck or two i think but its pretty slick and worth it, you can email full time logs in csv format, set up clients, set up locations, manual data and time edits
If you like i can write you up a quick one in the app inventor i'd love a reason to test it out more pm me if you would be intrested i can certainly talor it to your liking if you cant find one in the market to suit your needs.
I've been using Time Recording from the market for a month and I love it! It let me enter my pay rate per hour so I know how much I make before taxes and it calculates the hours per day, week, and month I work. Try it.
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[APP] Battery Diviner (May 1, 2011 - V1.06)

For update information, see bottom of post
Yes, another Battery Time Left-style app. Originally intended to fill in some of the gaps and problems of the current ones out there, it has since expanded in scope. Here are the main features:
General Info
The Battery Diviner learns your patterns over time to generate extremely accurate battery usage predictions. For example, little to no usage while you're asleep, or large usage when you play games during that train ride every Friday...
When first installed, it's using a "Level 0" prediction - a simple charge-divided-by-time, so there's something to display
After a day has passed, it switches to "Level 1" prediction, only using Level 0 as a fallback if there's missing data. Level 1 is more accurate than Level 0
After a week has passed, it switches to "Level 2" prediction, which includes the day of the week in the algorithm. It is the most accurate, and Levels 1 and 0 are only used as fallbacks at this point
There are no profiles/etc to download, and it should work with any Android 1.6 or greater device. Because it examines usage patterns, it should also still work with over/underclocked phones.
It also never stops learning. Once Level 1 and Level 2 reach their limits (7 days and 4 weeks, respectively), they start overwriting their oldest data. That way, it'll adjust over time, in case your schedule changes.
For example, Level 1 is limited to 1 week. Beyond that, it starts to overwrite the data from exactly 1 week previous (that is, the data from 168 hours previously). So after 1 week more, Level 1 is almost completely adjusted to a new schedule. "Almost", because the gaps where the phone is charging or off don't get recorded, and so, not overwritten.
Main Screen
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
The Main Screen is a summary of information, including:
Current percentage
From the current percent, how long until the battery is empty, and when that is
From the current percent, how long until it is charged, and when that is (AC and USB separate, since they charge at different rates)
The charging times include a "to XX%" column. This means it's only predicting up until it's charged to that percent, because data to go higher is missing. It does this instead of extrapolating, because my own phone slows down above about 93%, and usually reports "full" at 97% or 98% - things that can't be predicted if they weren't experienced before.
History Graph
The history graph shows your usage over the past several days (up to a week), and includes a prediction section to show you exactly what it thinks you're going to be doing. So if the time remaining seems unusually high or low, the graph will show you why the prediction says what it says, and gives you the final decision.
Blue is history, what your battery was actually at. Red is a Level 0 prediction, Yellow is a Level 1 prediction, Green is a Level 2 prediction.
To scroll, drag left/right across the graph
To zoom, draw left/right across the Zoom section. To the left zooms in.
To re-center on "Now", double-tap on the graph. It also re-zooms to 24 hours, but zooming does not affect the offset at all. Exiting and re-entering the graph does the same thing.
Usage Graph
The Usage graph shows you how much your battery is expected to drop by over the course of the week. The drop percentage is per 15 minutes. The graph display has been smoothed, to make more sense visually, but it means that manually doing a prediction using it (as opposed to simply looking at the History graph) might not have the same accuracy.
Red indicates Level 0 data, Yellow for Level 1, and Green for Level 2.
Controls are the same as the History graph.
Why each 15 minutes instead of each hour? A few things:
It comes from the precision of the predictions (Notice how discharging time left always ends with 0, 15, 30, or 45 minutes?)
It's less than an hour to give more precise information (not only in creating the prediction from the data, but it also affects storing the data)
I was considering using 5 minutes, but that part of the data would end up about 3 times as large. 15 seemed like a good compromise
Widget
There are two sizes currently available: 1x1 and 2x1, shown above in the first image. The 1x1 has two styles, shown in the second image.
The May 1 (V1.06) updated has added the options to change what the text is on the widget. Shown in the second image, the two dark widgets have been customized - the one on the left always shows USB charge time, and the one on the right always shows discharge time.
Widget Configuration
Sample of what the new Widget Configuration screen looks like.
The preview defaults to the current percent, but you can drag that slider underneath it to see what the widget would look like at any given percent.
Settings
The displays are very customizable, by way of the Setting screen, allowing you to:
Completely alter the display of dates and times
Change when the widget switches between the different colors (default numbers are 40 and 20; see above)
Turn start-at-boot on and off
Change colors used in the graphs and the widget
Alter settings for the learning algorithms (More coming soon)
Notification Bar
Icon shows current percentage
The pull-down contains the same information that would be on the widget.
Selecting the notification opens the Main Screen
Settings -> Misc -> Status Bar to enable
Data can be transferred between Free and Full versions (Import/Export in the Help). Destination data gets erased in the process.
Free: http://www.appbrain.com/app/battery-diviner-(free)/com.paklena.batterydiviner.free
Full: http://www.appbrain.com/app/battery-diviner-(full)/com.paklena.batterydiviner.full
Upcoming Ideas
(But don't hold your breath. I want to do these, but some I don't yet know how, or could end up being a bad idea once testing starts)
Statistics screen doesn't currently exist, but here are two ideas:
*Maximum possible battery life, by identifying the lowest usage pattern.
*(Suggested in thread) Remaining talk time, remaining idle time, remaining music-playing time, etc... (Requires knowing when each is running, which could cause call-answering delays, or unnecessary battery drain; "might be a bad idea")
Alternative widgets. Two additional 1x1 designs have been chosen, there is now a 2x1, and other 2x1 designs are welcome. The pattern seems to be: Dark background, Light background, and iPhone-style. (Coming, slowly)
Misc.
Each day the data is successfully loaded, it creates a copy as a backup, to prevent complete loss of data, should it get corrupted somehow. The backup is automatically restored if there is a problem, and the user notified as to why the previous day is no longer known. This also creates an odd-looking block in the History graph.
Widgets will not work (and will even disappear from the list of widgets) if the app is on the SD Card. According to khaytsus, if instead using Apps2Ext, it will work fine.
Update: May 1, 2011, V1.06
One bugfix: On one user's configuration, Android somehow was reporting 101% battery (And yes, Android was saying the equivalent of "On a 0-100% scale, you're at 101%", so it's not that it uses a 150-scale or something). I don't know what the cause is, but if this ever happens, the Battery Diviner will now treat that new highest value as the scale. It resets any time the app closes.
New feature: Widget Configuration Screen, plus one new 1x1 widget!
The new Configuration screen allows you to change when the bar colors change, what colors, and even how many to use (minimum 2, but they can be set to the same color). There's also a whole bunch of options for the text that gets displayed on the widget. Text options are:
*Static text (once selected, it asks what you want to display)
*Current Percent (The default line 1)
*Time Remaining (Cur) (The default line 2)
*End Time (Cur) (The default line 3)
For Time Remaining and End Time, in addition to "Cur" for "Current", there's also "Discharge", "USB", and "AC", if you want to force it to always display those times instead of whatever the phone is currently doing.
Sounds very cool.
Some of these battery predictor apps that I have tried have asked for my phone's type/model and as such I am assuming that what it is doing is loading a profile specific to the stock specs for what ever phone is picked, but it sounds like this is not the case with your app? I take it instead of relying on predefined profile your app looks at actual battery consumption and thus would take into account users who have their phones over and underclocked?
You mention a free and a full version of the app, what is the difference between these two?
Motalen's battery predictor app had a cool feature in that when you opened the app it would give you estimates on how much time is remaining to do certain activities (making a phone call, watching a video, listening to music, web browsing, etc) have you any plans on implementing something like this?
Finally I just want to note that I am not sure if I am a fan of the widget's design.
dsMA said:
Sounds very cool.
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Thanks!
dsMA said:
Some of these battery predictor apps that I have tried have asked for my phone's type/model and as such I am assuming that what it is doing is loading a profile specific to the stock specs for what ever phone is picked, but it sounds like this is not the case with your app? I take it instead of relying on predefined profile your app looks at actual battery consumption and thus would take into account users who have their phones over and underclocked?
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There are no downloaded/stored profiles for models of phone, so it should work on any Android device. Every time the battery drops (or charges) a percent, the Android OS notifies my app, which takes note of the time and day. It learns from those patterns. This also means that I'm not polling every X minutes, so there is no artificial draining of the battery.
The only assumptions made are that 100% means "full" and 0% means "empty". (And full may not even be assumed, I'd have to check through the code again)
dsMA said:
You mention a free and a full version of the app, what is the difference between these two?
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I didn't mention it? Ack. I'll edit the first post with more/better information on that, but for now: the Settings screen is limited to "Autostart: Yes/No" in the Free version, while the Full version has a lot more customizations.
In the next version or two, the Free version will allow all settings to be seen, but not changed.
dsMA said:
Motalen's battery predictor app had a cool feature in that when you opened the app it would give you estimates on how much time is remaining to do certain activities (making a phone call, watching a video, listening to music, web browsing, etc) have you any plans on implementing something like this?
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I was planning on making a Statistics screen, with things such as, the maximum your battery can last, by identifying the time you use it the least, and the minimum it can last, by identifying when it's used the most, and so on. I'll keep this idea in mind, as another addition to the Statistics screen, but would have to think about how to do it well.
dsMA said:
Finally I just want to note that I am not sure if I am a fan of the widget's design.
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Yeah, it was meant to be reminiscent of Star Trek, just because I'm a fan. I always intended to make a second one (that would look better on lighter backgrounds), but haven't yet thought of anything that I think would look nice. So I'm fully open to suggestions right now.
The three guidelines for the widget, in case someone wants to design one, are: The status bar (visual battery representation), the eye (what app it belongs to), and the 3 lines of text must be on it.
I've considered making those 3 lines of text fully customizable (Say, someone doesn't want the actual percent there), but again, I'd have to think about it how to implement it. (Already have a few ideas )
http://www.appbrain.com/app/battery-diviner-(free)/com.paklena.batterydiviner.free
Looks pretty neat, I'm a bit of a battery discharge geek, looking at Battery Snap multiple times per day.
I've only had this app installed since yesterday afternoon, but it's very cool. I love how I can view my past battery usage, and I can't wait to see how well the predictions turn out! Great app so far!
pinhead875 said:
I love how I can view my past battery usage
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You just reminded me of a missing setting in the Full version. Planned since day one but never implemented, will go add before the weekend (History is limited to 7-8 days (midnight split) to save space, Full version should be able to extend/reduce it. History does not affect the learning parts of the app; that is stored separately)
V1.02 Update coming sometime soon (Friday or during weekend). A bunch of updates to the Settings screen, plus now Free users can see all the settings, their defaults, and the help for them, just not modify them.
Not sure if this is a question or a suggestion....
Curious about the mechanism you use to learn.. Does it learn "once" then use that forever? Like for example normally at work I use it X amount, but one day was light or I was trying a new program, or installing a new ROM (ahem) and used significantly more battery than normal. Does it continue to average, or would that throw it off forever?
I gotta say, the Usage Graphs are not making any sense to me... It shows different green, red, yellow.... At first I thought it was percent of battery used or such, but it doesn't seem to be.. At least not per hour? I average 3-4%/hr with the phone pretty much idle (ie: me not playing with it) running K9 online imap, weather updating, Tasker doing stuff etc... But Diviner is showing 1%.. woah, now it's showing 3-4%, I SWEAR earlier it wasn't going any higher than 1%.. I'll keep an eye on this, maybe I'm just crazy. Nope, not crazy, I just went back into Graph Usage and it's showing 1-2% again. I wouldn't expect this to be something that'd have to stabilize that much over usage, it should know exactly what I've used since I installed it yesterday evening, right?
One question... Why are the Charging Times on the main screen "to 82%" for USB, "to 88%" for AC? Is this an estimate of what I typically (so far) have charged to for each of these?
Now, a suggestion or two.. A "Now" button for the graphs, to make it easier to find the most recent real info (vs estimated).
Make the graphs on the main page representative of the real graphs. Not updating in real time or anything, but right now they're just static icons, right?
Fun stuff, look forward to improvements.
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Not sure if this is a question or a suggestion....
Curious about the mechanism you use to learn.. Does it learn "once" then use that forever? Like for example normally at work I use it X amount, but one day was light or I was trying a new program, or installing a new ROM (ahem) and used significantly more battery than normal. Does it continue to average, or would that throw it off forever?
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It will continue to average it in, to a maximum of whatever the learning length is. For example: Level 1, the day-by-day one that shows up as Yellow on the graphs, limits itself to 1 week. After that, it wraps around and starts to overwrite the oldest data.
So Level 1 limits itself to 1 week. It's almost fully adjusted to a new schedule after that 1 week, slowly changing over the week. "Almost", because the gaps where the phone is charging or off, doesn't get recorded.
Level 2 limits itself to 4 weeks. This one is (will be) changeable in the Settings, minimum of 2 weeks, no maximum. So it will also wrap around and only keep the most recent 4 (or whatever) weeks of data.
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I gotta say, the Usage Graphs are not making any sense to me... It shows different green, red, yellow.... At first I thought it was percent of battery used or such, but it doesn't seem to be.. At least not per hour? I average 3-4%/hr with the phone pretty much idle (ie: me not playing with it) running K9 online imap, weather updating, Tasker doing stuff etc... But Diviner is showing 1%.. woah, now it's showing 3-4%, I SWEAR earlier it wasn't going any higher than 1%.. I'll keep an eye on this, maybe I'm just crazy. Nope, not crazy, I just went back into Graph Usage and it's showing 1-2% again. I wouldn't expect this to be something that'd have to stabilize that much over usage, it should know exactly what I've used since I installed it yesterday evening, right?
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The colors I'm sure I mentioned somewhere. Red/Yellow/Green indicates the data it has and how accurate it thinks it will be.
Otherwise, your initial guess was right, it is percent of battery used, but it's per 15 minutes, centered on the hour, and smoothed so it makes more sense to humans just perusing the graph (Yeah, sorry, not explained anywhere). Because it's smoothed, manually doing a prediction probably won't give you exactly the same eventual percent as simply looking at the other graph. But I'm not sure.
The 15-minute decision is based on a several things:
*The number is how precise discharging predictions can be. Time left is always 0, 15, 30, or 45 minutes + however many hours.
*It's lower than an hour to give more precise information. (This has to do with how the data is collected, as well as how it displays and is used)¹
*I was considering using 5 minutes, but this part of the data would be about 3 times as large.
Since per-hour is probably more intuitive, I may separate the Usage display from what's actually stored.
¹Also, please note, that this still does not mean any polling. It has to do with the math involved in data collection.
khaytsus said:
One question... Why are the Charging Times on the main screen "to 82%" for USB, "to 88%" for AC? Is this an estimate of what I typically (so far) have charged to for each of these?
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Yes. It doesn't know how long it takes to go higher.
(I chose specifically to do it this way because my own phone, at above 93%, starts slowing down, and usually reports "Fully Charged" when it reaches 97% or 98%)
khaytsus said:
Now, a suggestion or two.. A "Now" button for the graphs, to make it easier to find the most recent real info (vs estimated).
Make the graphs on the main page representative of the real graphs. Not updating in real time or anything, but right now they're just static icons, right?
Fun stuff, look forward to improvements.
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First one: Double-tap on the graph, and zooming doesn't change the offset at all (I'm sure I put this into the in-app help ) (Unless that's not what you're suggesting?)
Second one: Static yes, and it's planned, but have to figure out how to do it. Probably won't come for a while..
Keep the questions coming.. It's sometimes hard to tell what is obvious to me and weird to others (Like the Usage graph), because I'm the one making it, so I already understand it all. Your questions will help me fix up the displays and the "Help" section.
EDIT: Looks like I have URL-posting ability now. Yay! Time to work on the OP...
Just bought the donate version. The text boxes and such in settings are a little off.
Nexus One Miui11.26 No custom density.
This looks really neat.
One thing I'm curious about, is there a way to have the history also show the expected values, so we can see how accurate the app's been?
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Just bought the donate version. The text boxes and such in settings are a little off.
Nexus One Miui11.26 No custom density.
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Thanks. I'll try to replicate in the emulator, but not sure of how to fix at the moment.
However, I do have a suspicion. If I'm right, the changes I already made to Settings might fix it when it's released this weekend. Please post again when you get V1.02, if you haven't uninstalled it.
EDIT: Thinking about it more, no, it might not fix it, or it might fix only part of the problem. The ? Help buttons are what are making me think not, now... Eh, testing time anyway.
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One thing I'm curious about, is there a way to have the history also show the expected values, so we can see how accurate the app's been?
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Expected from... The previous time it was unplugged? Not at the moment, it would require some pretty big changes/additions. Maybe in Version 2. (Actually, likely in Version 2. I like the idea, but how to display it on the graph is something to think about)
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Thanks. I'll try to replicate in the emulator, but not sure of how to fix at the moment.
However, I do have a suspicion. If I'm right, the changes I already made to Settings might fix it when it's released this weekend. Please post again when you get V1.02, if you haven't uninstalled it.
EDIT: Thinking about it more, no, it might not fix it, or it might fix only part of the problem. The ? Help buttons are what are making me think not, now... Eh, testing time anyway.
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Don't you get uninstall / refund notifications from the market? No, I haven't uninstalled it.
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Don't you get uninstall / refund notifications from the market? No, I haven't uninstalled it.
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Sorta. The Developer's Console has been out of date for a day and a half or so (Except for ratings, those seem to update whenever), and the merchant area doesn't list usernames
Anyway, I think I see what caused the display problem. Some older parts of the code, that I must have missed when cleaning up for public release, were still in there (pixel values instead of WRAP_CONTENT).
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Expected from... The previous time it was unplugged?
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Good question, since your app is constantly (well, regularly, at any rate) updating its usage estimates. From unplug sounds like it'd be good though.
Changing the graphs to simpler lines graphs would take care of the graphing portion -- you'd be able to use the same view to show both what the app said your history should be vs. what it actually turned out to be.
It is quite a bit to chew on though. There might be a way to feed some kind of error information back into your heuristics for better forecasts, if you're not already doing that.
You're on the frontpage.
Will try the app, using JuicePlotter to get the battery-usage graph
I'm on a frontpage? Whowhatnow?
Anyway, along with the Version 1.02 update, I'm posing a question here:
I've made 4 mockups in the Gimp and attached them to this post, named widget2 through widget5 (widget1 being the one currently in the app). Any other possible suggestions? Or would you like one of these?
(And yes, I know widget4 is kinda out there. Also, the green and yellow is customizable in the Settings)
Izkata said:
I've made 4 mockups in the Gimp and attached them to this post, named widget2 through widget5 (widget1 being the one currently in the app). Any other possible suggestions? Or would you like one of these?
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To be honest, they all look quite bad to me. What about a neutral version with just text?
I'd be willing to drop the bar and lines, but I want to keep the eye on there somewhere as an identifying mark. (One of the upcoming graphics upgrades will un-pixelize the eye, so it should look better, too)
(Offer is still open to make your own mockups - image size is 72x72)
Hi,
Hope you don't mind, I gave a widget a quick go.
The background is the bar (I don't usually pay attention to battery bars as there is one in the notification bar that gives you a good enough guestimate)
Everything widget wise with android is heading that of the Iphone (everything curvy) so just rounded things off. I didnt know font limitations so just chose a plain one (Franklin Gothic this one is).
I dont know anything about android development so dont know whats possible...
Im not using your app yet but am excited to give it a go! Currently I use JuicePlotter but am getting fed up of my gallery being slowed down by its 'cache' images for the graph (which I dont use). Your app seems clean, simple and no nonsense!
One question. If I got the free version, if I upgrade to the full one at a later date will it have to "Re-learn" everything? or will it see the settings stored by the free version?
Coedy said:
Hi,
Hope you don't mind, I gave a widget a quick go.
The background is the bar (I don't usually pay attention to battery bars as there is one in the notification bar that gives you a good enough guestimate)
Everything widget wise with android is heading that of the Iphone (everything curvy) so just rounded things off. I didnt know font limitations so just chose a plain one (Franklin Gothic this one is).
I dont know anything about android development so dont know whats possible...
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Hmm... Looks pretty nice. I'll wait and see if there are any other suggestions before making it, though (plus I'd have to figure out the rounded-corners thing for the bar part, but that doesn't seem like it would be too hard. Maybe I'll include a "Hide the progress bar" option eventually)
By default, the font choices are Sans, Serif, and Monospace, with the Bold, Italic, or Bold And Italic modifiers. No clue what the typeface itself is. Custom fonts are certainly supported (as seen in other apps), but I haven't bothered yet. These seem good enough for now.
Coedy said:
Im not using your app yet but am excited to give it a go! Currently I use JuicePlotter but am getting fed up of my gallery being slowed down by its 'cache' images for the graph (which I dont use). Your app seems clean, simple and no nonsense!
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I was surprised myself at how well my graph scrolled, having used JuicePlotter for a while before making this. I mean, mine even is doing a complete redraw (not just scrolling an image) as it's moved.. So no cache files, either
Coedy said:
One question. If I got the free version, if I upgrade to the full one at a later date will it have to "Re-learn" everything? or will it see the settings stored by the free version?
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If upgrading to Full later, there's an Import/Export section in the Help that can be used. Full and Free versions don't recognize each other, so they can both be safely installed at the same time.
To upgrade, go into the Free version and choose "Export". A file is created on the SD Card called "Battery Diviner Export Data.mag". Then go into the Full version and choose "Import". That file is read, and when successful, deleted.
Import/Export could also be used if you want differently-trained data. For example, if still in school, export at the end of the semester and rename it, then choose Erase in the Help. Retrain over break, then when next semester starts, export that, rename it differently, then move the original back into place and Import it.

Recommend me some Apps, Please

I'm swapping from Android to Windows Phone, and was hoping if anyone is bored enough to read this they might suggest some Windows Phone Apps that might suit my needs.
In no way do I expect anyone that hops in to respond to each type, or google around for me, but I expect I'm not the first person to make the Android -> Windows phone swap, so maybe some of you will have a quick idea of ones to try out. You don't need to spend a lot of time explaining every app, if you're busy. Every platform is different though, so rather than spend 10 hours looking for something that everyone in the community already knows, I thought I would just toss out some quick questions.
1. RSS feeds. On Android I use gReader Pro. It's a pretty basic app that allows easy setup for RSS feeds and syncs them with your google reader account. Not very exciting, but it's easy to use because my feeds are already set up via google, so a decent app that can do the same would be nice.
2. Google Voice. I'd like to make and receive texts, as well as make calls on wifi (receiving calls isn't a big deal, but would be a plus). I downloaded GoVoice, which seems like it will be pretty decent, but am open to suggsetions.
3. Podcasts. I used Doggcatcher on Android, which allows you to stream, download + save, and sync podcasts. It has a decent search function to help you get started.
4. Tasker. This one is more difficult to explain, but essentially it allows you to program a set of tasks, like a macro function. Essentially I have it set up for "Off" (as in data/wifi/bluetooth/gps/gsm disabled), "Data" (same as off but wifi enabled), "Loud" (same as data but with notifications and media volumes all the way up), and "Car" (same as Loud but wifi off and speakerphone and GPS enabled). Basically I use this to change the state of the GPS, WIFI, and volumes, so that I can quickly switch a number of settings at once. Great app, if you have some patience and have an Android kicking around.
5. Astrid Tasks. A pretty basic reminder app. I'm sure there are plenty of these for Windows Phone, but any suggestion would great. If it can store backups to the computer, or sync with a cloud based system, that would be a plus.
6*. Something to show running applications quickly. I'm not sure if this is actually an issue for Windows Phone, but sometimes apps go "rogue" on Android, so being able to make sure that a particular app isn't a battery drain would be nice. I was using System Panel on Android. If this isn't needed, disregard the question.
7. A good alarm app. I was using Gentle Alarm on Android, which has a widget to show you the next alarm that will go off, and allows easy creation of various alarms, which can be set for audible, vibration, specific days of the week to repeat on, etc. You can also ensure that alarms will always be audible, regardless of if everything else is muted, which is nice for at night when you don't need an email waking you up, but need to make sure the alarm is at maximum volume in the morning.
8. Anything else you can think of that is a must have for daily use. I'm a student and don't really have a lot of time to play with the phone for games, but hey, we all have to pass the time every once in a while.
9. Onenote. I like how this app syncs easily, but I can't view my handwritten notes that I write on my tablet. Is there a workaround that allows you to see these?
------ I'm only using this Lumia 710 on WIFI, essentially as a PDA + GPS, so anything handy that can prevent battery drain is a plus, as I don't require GPS to constantly be on, and I certainly don't need phone/data(non-wifi) to constantly be on.
In short, I appreciate any input you might have, even if it's only for one of the things I have listed. The phone seems great in general, and had most of the important things already installed (the email, calendar, navigation, office, etc., is fantastic as is, which is a great bonus compared to Android, where I had to use 3rd party apps for most of the core aspects).
Regards,
--bb
Weave
Skype
Music and Video with Zune
Not possible
Ask Ziggy
not needed
Default alarm
Board Express Pro
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Nokia Drive
Crackle
Nokia Creative Studio
Contract Killer
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Box
SkyDrive
MetroTube
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Weave
Skype
Music and Video with Zune
Not possible
Ask Ziggy
not needed
Default alarm
Board Express Pro
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Nokia Drive
Crackle
Nokia Creative Studio
Contract Killer
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Box
SkyDrive
MetroTube
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Thanks for all of the suggestions. That should keep me busy for quite awhile. :good:
Try also fantasia painter for photo editor. Is awesome and free. The only app i am missing since switching from wp7 to android
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Before I get into my list, I'm just going to run down how apps and multi tasking work on WP7 in case you don't already know.
#1: No app can truly run in the background. The only way to get an app to continue running is either to have it up and prevent the screen from turning off, or (if supported by the app) allow it to run under the lockscreen, which means when you press the power button, only the screen turns off, the phone does not enter a sleep state.
-----------------The exception to this rule is when an app is playing music. If the app dev has done it correctly, he should have handed the music playing off to the system, so once you set up the music source in app, you should be able to minimize it and use the next/previous/play/pause controls. In fact you can even go to grooveshark's beta html5 in internet explorer; HTML5 can plug in to this system media playback! I was very excited to learn that. But at least on grooveshark, next/previous controls don't work.
#2: HOWEVER each app can have a "daemon" which is essentially a set of tasks that are run periodically by the system (minimum of every half hour). So if you use google latitude, latitude apps will only be able to update your position every half hour (or at longer intervals, but no shorter). This system of background daemons is actually very very good as it encourages unique thinking from the developer side, and still gives the user the benefits of true multi tasking without the battery drainage. What a daemon can do isn't that limited, but it's the fact that no internet connection can remain active in the background that poses a lot of problems (for example, IRC clients cannot have multi tasking for this reason). Since things can only run every half hour, you don't have to worry about things like turning off your gps, since nothing is allowed to just turn on the GPS and keep it on.
#3 : Also there's still push, of course. Lemme break that down for you: push notifications can either be through the live tile (rather than having a background daemon update the tile, things are pushed to it immediately as they arrive), or push can be used through statusbar notifications. One unfortunate oversight in this system is that if you have an app that you do not pin to the start menu, and if it has a notification and you did not hear it... there is no list of missed notifications. This doesn't come into play that often; for me it only happens with eBay, where I don't want to bother having that on my start screen but I might miss some alerts.
#4: Battery Saver mode is YOUR FRIEND. You can get nearly another day out of your phone (or I can with my Titan) when battery saver kicks in. You can enable it so that it turns on when the battery is low (%20), or manually. However, it disables all background daemons and push notification in order to save battery.
#5: Multi tasking and switching between apps. Hold down the back button to see the list of the last several apps you used (or in the case of my unlocked ROM, all of the apps you have used since boot). When you minimize an app (press the start button), it gets "dehydrated" which means it's just suspended to RAM. It works like you'd expect; start typing something in one app, switch over to another to look something up and switch back to the first to resume typing. To remove an app from the list, or "exit" the app (since it isn't actually running the only thing this does is remove clutter or perhaps free up some slots), you "back" out of them. Press the back button until the app goes away.
One of the reasons, in my opinion, that windows 8 is getting a lot of negative flack is because people don't know that live tiles are good. It doesn't help that, last time I checked, there were no useful live tile apps in the 8 marketplace yet. So frustrating! People hate what they don't understand, because hating on the internet is the standard state of existence. I encourage you to think about what you do on the internet every time you sit down on your computer, and see if you can find an app with live tile to do it for you. For me, I had a routine of checking my email(s), going through a lot of webcomics, reading news feeds, etc. That was my daily routine. Now with WP7, I have each aspect of my routine as a live tile, so I can literally replace that entire process with just looking at the start screen.
The other thing about live tiles and metro that people fail to understand is that active push notifications, where unnecessary are BAD, for a few different reasons. Push notifications are "active" and live tiles are "passive". This is because live tiles do not make any noise or otherwise prompt you to look at them; they are simply there and deliver content when you pull out your phone. Let me put this in perspective: say I pull out my phone to look up something on wikipedia. I can see that I have 2 new emails, some new RSS articles and a facebook notification. Number 1: I don't feel the urge to go and clear the unread count of all of these things, as I would if they were all aggregated in the statusbar like on android (because you need that statusbar for things, and if it's cluttered and you don't keep up on it, it quickly fills up and becomes overwhelming). I can leave them alone for now and go to wikipedia. Now if this were an android/IOS device, I would have gotten an audible notification for each of those three things, and I would have taken time out of whatever I was doing IN LIFE to tend to my phone.
Some points about stressors here (and when I say stressors, I don't mean overwhelming stress you can feel, but stress in the clinical sense, which is objective): having your phone beep at you constantly stresses you; for most people it's difficult to put their phone out of their mind until they have seen what the notification was. This is not good.
Moreover, feeling the need to go and clear unread counts/managing your statusbar is also somewhat of a stressor; if it starts overflowing you'll either learn to not use things that create notifications (somewhat limiting your experience with a smartphone), give up all hope and never look at the statusbar again, or just clear it out and miss out on things you wouldn't have if the information was presented in an orderly fashion.
Live tiles, being passive, are also more efficient in terms of time spent on the phone and your phone's battery life. Notice how in my example, I observed the new content only when I was already pulling out my phone to do something else. With things aggregating in bulk, I can view them in bulk at points of the day where I was already on my phone. This is opposed to pulling out my phone every 15 minutes because something new happened... which wastes time pulling your phone out of your pocket many times a day, wastes battery when turning the screen on/off many times a day, and if you use wifi; wastes even more battery when the wifi radio is turned on/off sporadically many times a day.
So yes, live tiles are an objectively less stressful approach to mobile devices and less distracting from tasks at hand. The same concepts can be applied to windows 8; rather than having popup notifications for all your facebook, email, rss, etc bombard you while you're trying to write a paper... all of that information is silently aggregated for you in the background.
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For alarms,
627.AM
Built in Alarm app.
For task / project management
Tasks by telerik
Or just use the built in calendar app
Or use Onenote and Pin your task list to the start screen.
For RSS
Wonder Reader hands down, none of the other google reader clients are quite as fully functional and polished.
Fuse is pretty but I never got the hang of using it.
For Wifi Video calls
Tango. It's pretty limited in that the android and IOS client are updated with better features, and you can only call other people with tango... but the service itself is more efficient and more reliable than the skype app was last time I tried it. Moreover it supports push for accepting calls, something skype doesn't. Also I like the concept of not having "online / offline" states. You call someone, and they choose to answer it or not. Why would I need to log into a phone...
I used to take notes on a tablet at school, and ran into the same problem as you. Only solution I know of is to print your notes back into onenote. You'll have duplicates of everything unfortunately.
Podcast functionality is built in.
For random recommendations...
das Image (Better image search)
Image Map (Renders all of your pictures on a map based on GPS loc info)
Dynamic Background (Unlock) (Updates the lockscreen picture every half hour choosing randomly from a pool of selected images)
Battery Status (Unlock) (Live tile for current battery percent, also tracks battery usage and graphs it for you)
EnClock (there is no stopwatch built in to WP7, and you never know when you need one)
eBay
HandyScan (Helps you take good pictures of papers, backs up to skydrive. Better to keep documents in here than with regular pictures).
Keep Alive (by jaxbot, it prevents wifi from turning off)
Nokia Drive (Unlock unless you get a nokia device)
MetroPaper (Read it later / pocket)
Metrotube + Supertube (youtube apps. 1 is awesome, 2 lets you download videos and even create offline "music" playlists)
Photo2cloud (back up full res photos to skydrive independent of PC)
Supreme Shortcuts (Unlock) (Lets you pin any setting page to the start screen)
WeatherLive (There are plenty of other weather apps... but weatherlive works, it's incredibly thorough, updates live tile using GPS location, is pretty, etc)
Zite (Gives you news articles based on google reader feeds and who you follow in twitter, good for every time I go to the toilet )
If you use IRC or SSH
The SSH Client Pro
TinyIRC
And now that you are a part of the WP community, you should invest in AND pin the live tiles of each to your start screen:
WPCentral
WMPoweruser
Games! I Don't like to play serious games on my phone; I like something I can whip out at any time and turn off at any time, no consequence. That said, I make an exception for the Final Fantasy updated / rerelease for WP7
COLLAPSE (Probably my favorite mobile game. It's an easy puzzle game, but satisfying to plow through at ludicrous speed. There are some very hard rounds with special conditions though.. story mode is dumb but it has unique challenges and you need to play through it to unlock all the quick play modes).
Final Fantasy
Wordament
Fruit Ninja
Dodonpachi Maximum (Genre: Bullet Hell. If you don't know what that means then try it before you buy it. If you love bullet hell; buy this. It's by CAVE).
Wizard's Choice (A casual text adventure).
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Thank you for the detailed response!
I've started using Onenote as a to-do list, but I made a recent post as to why that's causing me problems (or so it seems).
I seem to be syncing everything from onenote, and my device has basically filled up overnight as it downloaded my files. Microsoft told me to contact Nokia about it, and then disconnected?
It seemed like a good plan to me as well. I don't really need to see detailed graphs and notes on the phone, just a couple simple folders.
I may just reset the phone and give the other apps you suggested a shot, and not connect with my microsoft live ID at all. I went from plenty of space on the device to none, in a matter of days.
I'm not sure if podcasts were an issue as well, and how it saves and deletes them. I only stored what I would consider a small amount, maybe 200 megs or less.
Nokia drive works great. It takes up a lot of space, but I have it on my feature phone as well, and the GPS acquisition time on the Lumia 710 blows away my E5-00, and my Droid X. It's just incredibly fast at locking in.
I'll do a reset tomorrow and give the other apps a shot, and try to avoid anything that could be crushing my storage. All I really need for storage is email, nokia drive, and basic apps/news/podcasts, which on my android (nav aside) shouldn't really take more than 1 gig of space. A few small games to pass the time, and some apps for productivity, and I should be back in business.
Unfortunately I can't seem to find a way to determine what is using X amount of space, so I'll have to do a full wipe and install items slowly, to sort it out.
There isn't a proper app to view this kind of thing, is there?
Regards,
--bb
I'll reply to your other thread about one note.
You can't not connect with your live ID if you plan to download apps unfortunately.
For viewing used space, Zune does divide it up for you, I don't remember how specific it gets but it should be divided into space used by music, videos, podcasts, apps. I don't think it's possible for an app to view usage, because each app is sandboxed; that is they have their own folder on the device and they are not allowed to leave it.
Nokia Drive shouldn't need to take up a lot of space; you can just download the maps of where you live and where you might possibly go spontaneously, as opposed to your whole country XD. Yeah I've had good luck with my phones and GPS, WP7 in general does an excellent job with GPS.
Oh I forgot to mention in my first post; WPCentral and WMPoweruser are good because they do a lot of app/game reviews, usually the reviews are on new apps in the market. This is pretty much the only way I discover new apps
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I'll reply to your other thread about one note.
You can't not connect with your live ID if you plan to download apps unfortunately.
For viewing used space, Zune does divide it up for you, I don't remember how specific it gets but it should be divided into space used by music, videos, podcasts, apps. I don't think it's possible for an app to view usage, because each app is sandboxed; that is they have their own folder on the device and they are not allowed to leave it.
Nokia Drive shouldn't need to take up a lot of space; you can just download the maps of where you live and where you might possibly go spontaneously, as opposed to your whole country XD. Yeah I've had good luck with my phones and GPS, WP7 in general does an excellent job with GPS.
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Gotcha!
I will look into setting up a new windows live account for OneNote to-do type lists. I know Office sometimes used to have issues with multiple live accounts on the same computer, in Windows 7, but I think that's mostly fixed now. I use google calendar anyways (to sync), so realistically it's not the end of the world for me to keep the accounts disconnected from my school Onenote live account.
I guess I synced all of Nokia North America at once (1.9 or so gigs of a download). I certainly don't need more than 20% of it. In fact, my whole state, now that I look at it, is only 36 megs.
Now that you've given some ideas of how to approach it, I'm liking this more than any of my other previous phones (iPhone, BB Bold, Droid X, etc). It needs some time to grow as an operating system, and Nokia really needs to put an LED notification light on future models [shakes tiny fist], but I think they're back in the game!
Thank you very much for all of your help.
//Edit: I read your other post responding to mine. I think you're right. I could probably do a wipe, use the same account, but move the basic to-do lists to a separate folder, pin them, and make sure to never ever open the school folder itself in Office on the phone. That sounds like it would work ok as well, as I must have opened a school folder that overwhelmed it and just started syncing massive amounts of pdf's, inking, and so on, along with the simple things.
I just wanted to also mention that all that you typed out would make for a great sticky. That's a ton of great info.
Thank you again for all of the feedback.
You made some excellent points about how smartphones add lots of unnecessary stresses when they're constantly distracting us with notifications, as well as how live tiles really help ease you into information you need, and information you might not, but are willing to take a brief glance at. I'm a big Windows 8 fan, and have used RP, RTM Pro (currently), and RTM enterprise. I think Live Tiles are fantastic, whether it's on my phone, my convertible laptop, or my desktop. I think you're absolutely correct about how people just don't quite understand how handy it will be yet.
//BTW: I bookmarked your post as a sort of "zen" explanation I can refer back to, or link to a friend, so they understand the unity and purposes in the next stage in Windows products.
///Afterthought: I still would like a notification LED on the phone, as long as it's customizable. On Android and Blackberry I would always disable the light for all of the nonsense things, but keep it enabled for things like a missed call (because that could be my son needing a ride, or something else that's important), or for a severe weather alert. Random emails would just have to wait until I turned on the screen.
Sorry to bump my own thread again, but I have a question about three of the apps that link68759 mentioned.
"Supreme Shortcuts (Unlock) (Lets you pin any setting page to the start screen)"
"Battery Status (Unlock) (Live tile for current battery percent, also tracks battery usage and graphs it for you)"
"Keep Alive (by jaxbot, it prevents wifi from turning off)"
By "unlock" I'm assuming he meant an unlocked bootloader, and not locked to a cellular carrier? I did the basic test today, and mine appears to be locked, which is a shame because both of those functions would be great.
As far as "Keep Alive" goes, I can't seem to find that specific app/dev combo in the market. I don't use 3g/4g data on this phone, or any phone anymore, so is that an app that is better than keeping the scanning on, or is it a battery drain? I'm just not sure I follow the concept, because I can't find a description of it.
Regards,
--bb
bladebarrier said:
Sorry to bump my own thread again, but I have a question about three of the apps that link68759 mentioned.
"Supreme Shortcuts (Unlock) (Lets you pin any setting page to the start screen)"
"Battery Status (Unlock) (Live tile for current battery percent, also tracks battery usage and graphs it for you)"
"Keep Alive (by jaxbot, it prevents wifi from turning off)"
By "unlock" I'm assuming he meant an unlocked bootloader, and not locked to a cellular carrier? I did the basic test today, and mine appears to be locked, which is a shame because both of those functions would be great.
As far as "Keep Alive" goes, I can't seem to find that specific app/dev combo in the market. I don't use 3g/4g data on this phone, or any phone anymore, so is that an app that is better than keeping the scanning on, or is it a battery drain? I'm just not sure I follow the concept, because I can't find a description of it.
Regards,
--bb
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You'll need to flash a custom ROM, which you can luckily do on your 710.
The a wifi radio turning on/off takes more power than one that is idly connected. So if you use the phone frequently, it's better to stay connected. If you aren't going to touch it for many hours at a time, better to let it disconnect and turn off.
But if you aren't using cellular then you'll need wifi to update information in the background.
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