Is this the laggiest phone anyone has ever seen? Mine gets on my nerves more often then not. I am about to throw it up against a wall. Mainly when I am checking something out and hit the home button. It takes like 10 secs to get back to the home screen. Or when I swipe from side to side. It is so annoying.
Battery life completely sucks. I need to carry around a car battery with me to be able to keep this thing going.
Power button: Coming from a Droid X this power button is the worst ever. I power my phone down everytime I hold on to the phone. Ugh.
Love the phone otherwise.
Anyone have a non-root lag fix or power button removal tool.
Riddlin said:
Is this the laggiest phone anyone has ever seen? Mine gets on my nerves more often then not. I am about to throw it up against a wall. Mainly when I am checking something out and hit the home button. It takes like 10 secs to get back to the home screen. Or when I swipe from side to side. It is so annoying.
Battery life completely sucks. I need to carry around a car battery with me to be able to keep this thing going.
Power button: Coming from a Droid X this power button is the worst ever. I power my phone down everytime I hold on to the phone. Ugh.
Love the phone otherwise.
Anyone have a non-root lag fix or power button removal tool.
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Riddlin said:
Is this the laggiest phone anyone has ever seen? Mine gets on my nerves more often then not. I am about to throw it up against a wall. Mainly when I am checking something out and hit the home button. It takes like 10 secs to get back to the home screen. Or when I swipe from side to side. It is so annoying.
Battery life completely sucks. I need to carry around a car battery with me to be able to keep this thing going.
Power button: Coming from a Droid X this power button is the worst ever. I power my phone down everytime I hold on to the phone. Ugh.
Love the phone otherwise.
Anyone have a non-root lag fix or power button removal tool.
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On the power button - I came from a droid x too and there is no way that its that hard to hold this phone.
on the battery life - if you are running low that fast, learn to manage the stuff doing the power drain.
on the lag - did you update to ee4? it lags a little bit, but 10 secs is exaggeration unless you are running a bunch of crap at the same time.
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... I am about to throw it up against a wall. ...
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Seriously 10 seconds is not over exaggerating. I am serious. I have the basics on my phone. I dont run a bunch of stuff. I actually downloaded JuiceDefender (and paid for it) for my phone and literally I will charge my phone and it will be down to 50% within 2 hours if I leave 4g on. I normally turn it off manually because it drains so fast. When I look at the battery usage monitor within the phone it says my screen is using 69% of my battery. WTF I barely look at the thing and I have it set on like 10% screen brightness.
I am not saying its hard to hold the phone with the power button. It is easy to hit the damn thing in my pocket or while holding and it reboots my phone every time. Like 3 times per day my phone gets rebooted.
And yes I upgraded to ee4 which was suppose to improve the phone. Not any improvement here. Maybe I just need to take it back and get a wonderfully refurbished pile of ****. Pay $300 for a phone and get a refurbished one 3 weeks later. Yeah!
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Seriously 10 seconds is not over exaggerating. I am serious. I have the basics on my phone. I dont run a bunch of stuff. I actually downloaded JuiceDefender (and paid for it) for my phone and literally I will charge my phone and it will be down to 50% within 2 hours if I leave 4g on. I normally turn it off manually because it drains so fast. When I look at the battery usage monitor within the phone it says my screen is using 69% of my battery. WTF I barely look at the thing and I have it set on like 10% screen brightness.
I am not saying its hard to hold the phone with the power button. It is easy to hit the damn thing in my pocket or while holding and it reboots my phone every time. Like 3 times per day my phone gets rebooted.
And yes I upgraded to ee4 which was suppose to improve the phone. Not any improvement here. Maybe I just need to take it back and get a wonderfully refurbished pile of ****. Pay $300 for a phone and get a refurbished one 3 weeks later. Yeah!
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Get an iphone! You will love it
suzook said:
Get an iphone! You will love it
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I would rather get my old Motorola Brick Phone back.
It sounds like you may have a defective phone, 10 secs is ridiculous. Def return that shiite
edit: btw, Amazon has phones generally for 50-100 bucks cheaper than the stores, I got my charge for 199 no tax
dude, your phone is jacked, if your battery is that bad AND its that laggy something is eating up all your processing power and RAM and at the same time is killing your battery. If you cant find the problem, return it. Im completly stock and have almost no lag on anything.......
Your phone sounds defective. I never had home screen redraws like that even when stock.
I agree, you definitely have something wrong with your phone. One thing, though - get rid of juice defender. It really screws up a 4G/3G phone like this by messing with your data connections. That might be part of your problem - every time juice defender disables your data because it thinks you don't need it, then something requests it, it has to do a lot of resyncing to get connected up again.
Are you running stock? Have you tried a different launcher? Also, have you looked to see what is draining your battery? Some people have found a rogue app, such as the calendar, constantly running and draining.
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Seriously 10 seconds is not over exaggerating. I am serious. I have the basics on my phone. I dont run a bunch of stuff. I actually downloaded JuiceDefender (and paid for it) for my phone and literally I will charge my phone and it will be down to 50% within 2 hours if I leave 4g on. I normally turn it off manually because it drains so fast. When I look at the battery usage monitor within the phone it says my screen is using 69% of my battery. WTF I barely look at the thing and I have it set on like 10% screen brightness.
I am not saying its hard to hold the phone with the power button. It is easy to hit the damn thing in my pocket or while holding and it reboots my phone every time. Like 3 times per day my phone gets rebooted.
And yes I upgraded to ee4 which was suppose to improve the phone. Not any improvement here. Maybe I just need to take it back and get a wonderfully refurbished pile of ****. Pay $300 for a phone and get a refurbished one 3 weeks later. Yeah!
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(1) Replace your launcher with ADWLauncher EX (not the free version). Lots more functionality (and fun) than TouchWiz, and absolutely no lag when zipping around screens. The free version of ADW is not as fast as the paid (but, still cheap) EX version.
(2) One big battery-sucking problem I found was that I was using K-9 Mail for my primary email program. I had K-9 polling email requests every 15 minutes or so for my email accounts. Instead, I now use the TouchWiz email program for my non-GMail accounts. I selected the "Use Verizon's email server" and have Verizon push the emails out. It's pretty good, and has a *lot* less battery drain. (Verizon's email server seems to poll your email accounts approximately every 10 minutes. If you need it faster than that, oh well - your battery will suffer). I still have Google doing the GMail pushing, and it is nearly as fast as texting.
(3) Out of curiousity, what is your Quadrant score? It may indicate if you have problems.
I find that I can make it through the day without charging, as long as I'm not doing a ton of stuff on the phone.
Cheers,
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(1) Replace your launcher with ADWLauncher EX (not the free version). Lots more functionality (and fun) than TouchWiz, and absolutely no lag when zipping around screens. The free version of ADW is not as fast as the paid (but, still cheap) EX version.
(2) One big battery-sucking problem I found was that I was using K-9 Mail for my primary email program. I had K-9 polling email requests every 15 minutes or so for my email accounts. Instead, I now use the TouchWiz email program for my non-GMail accounts. I selected the "Use Verizon's email server" and have Verizon push the emails out. It's pretty good, and has a *lot* less battery drain. (Verizon's email server seems to poll your email accounts approximately every 10 minutes. If you need it faster than that, oh well - your battery will suffer). I still have Google doing the GMail pushing, and it is nearly as fast as texting.
(3) Out of curiousity, what is your Quadrant score? It may indicate if you have problems.
I find that I can make it through the day without charging, as long as I'm not doing a ton of stuff on the phone.
Cheers,
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I use the native email app for my Gmail, Yahoo and Exchange. I do use GO Launcher EX, which is the best one I have found. That isnt the problem though even the stock launcher is laggy. I have a new phone being shipped to me tomorrow. Maybe it was just the phone. I didnt use Juice Defender until I couldnt take my battery getting robbed of all of its juice in a couple hours.
Here is my Quadrant score info: 903
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I use the native email app for my Gmail, Yahoo and Exchange. I do use GO Launcher EX, which is the best one I have found. That isnt the problem though even the stock launcher is laggy. I have a new phone being shipped to me tomorrow. Maybe it was just the phone. I didnt use Juice Defender until I couldnt take my battery getting robbed of all of its juice in a couple hours.
Here is my Quadrant score info: 903
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OK - First, judging from your Quadrant Score, you aren't rooted yet (or, running Voodoo on it). Voodoo replaces the stock SamChg RFS (Reiser File System?) with the more efficient ext3 file system. If the Quadrant scores can be believed (there's debate on this), my SamChg runs about 50% better, since I am getting a score of 1483.
Next - I tried GO Launcher EX, and while it isn't as fast as ADWLauncher EX, it's decent enough. Not enough to cause a 10 second delay, anyways.
So - Does the screen do a redraw almost every time you go back to your home page? If so, you are chomping up all your RAM somewhere. You could have an app that's a bad actor. You may also be doing a LOT of browsing.
How about widgets? Do you have many of those on your desktop? If so, they will suck up CPU/battery, even when you don't have your desktop displayed.
Are you using Live Wallpaper? Again, this will suck CPU/battery, even when you don't have your desktop displayed.
With using the TW Email app, did you set up all the accounts to have Verizon push messages automatically?
Cheers,
Yes it redraws almost every time. I have one widget total on all 9 home screens. Not many Apps either maybe 5 per home screen. I called Verizon and they are sending me a new one. I will report back with that one.
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So, Riddlin' - Any better with your new SamChg?
ColonelSeitan said:
It sounds like you may have a defective phone, 10 secs is ridiculous. Def return that shiite
edit: btw, Amazon has phones generally for 50-100 bucks cheaper than the stores, I got my charge for 199 no tax
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Also, when you get a replacement through Amazon Wireless they send you a brand new, rather than a refurb.
Juice Defender is the power virus.
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Some of us are having problems with our Captivate randomly shutting down. AT&T technical support thinks it could be apps that we've installed. Could they be right? My replacement device didn't start shutting down again after 3-4 days of owning it. By that time, I have already installed some favorite apps. Here's my list. Let's compare and figure this out. It's just a theory. Can't hurt.
<<<< OMG! While typing this new thread to turn on my phone so I can see the list of apps I have installed, MY PHONE TURNED OFF ON ME! WHAT THE...!!! >>> Anyway...
Apps installed:
-SMS Back Up and Restore
-Yahoo! Mail for Android
-Adobe Reader
-XDA-Developers
-Market History Manager
-Speedtest.net
-Google Maps
Mine never did it until I set advanced tag killer to harsh every half hour. I watered down the harshness a little bit and it hasn't shut off since
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Theres a thread in the vibrant section that's about the same problem and it happens after 3 days could try there
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Thanks. I just posted on an existing thread over there. I will do a hardware master reset later and observe again the next 3-4 days. Samsung gave me the directions. (Hold the volume up and down plus the power button, all 3 buttons for 15 seconds, etc.)
most are saying that its bad RAM/memory and exchanging the handset fixed all the problems
andy2na said:
most are saying that its bad RAM/memory and exchanging the handset fixed all the problems
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Is there a memtest type application for android? Bad memory would make sense, but so would a number of other theories.
Ur welcome hope it helps and u get it figured out
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RexEscape said:
Thanks. I just posted on an existing thread over there. I will do a hardware master reset later and observe again the next 3-4 days. Samsung gave me the directions. (Hold the volume up and down plus the power button, all 3 buttons for 15 seconds, etc.)
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Yeah, that's their answer for all problems, big and small. I'm sure in some cases it's valid, but the reset is used more as a "what the hell' reply rather than a knowledge-based solution.
Jack45 said:
Yeah, that's their answer for all problems, big and small. I'm sure in some cases it's valid, but the reset is used more as a "what the hell' reply rather than a knowledge-based solution.
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...which I agree to some point. Some users just end up loading crap on devices which screws things up (some of the apps mentioned above might be crap, or not, not sure, it's only a theory. Of course, a perfect device is a unit that can withstand ANY apps you feed to it. But we don't have THE perfect device (yet, or ever).
I will do the hardware master reset in a few minutes and not load anything for 3-4 days (but I will enter my Gmail account and let it sync with my Contacts, Calendar, and Email, but that's it...for now).
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...which I agree to some point. Some users just end up loading crap on devices which screws things up (some of the apps mentioned above might be crap, or not, not sure, it's only a theory. Of course, a perfect device is a unit that can withstand ANY apps you feed to it. But we don't have THE perfect device (yet, or ever).
I will do the hardware master reset in a few minutes and not load anything for 3-4 days (but I will enter my Gmail account and let it sync with my Contacts, Calendar, and Email, but that's it...for now).
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What steers me away from the app theory is that there have been several posts indicating that the random shutdowns have occurred with a stock device. No apps downloaded / installed.
I don't have an answer except to say that the master reset can't hurt. Realistically, though, if you go a few days without a shutdown don't sit back and smile like the Cheshire Cat. Sometimes the shutdowns occur weeks into ownership. I'm not being negative, just realistic.
I wish you well.
Jack45 said:
What steers me away from the app theory is that there have been several posts indicating that the random shutdowns have occurred with a stock device. No apps downloaded / installed.
I don't have an answer except to say that the master reset can't hurt. Realistically, though, if you go a few days without a shutdown don't sit back and smile like the Cheshire Cat. Sometimes the shutdowns occur weeks into ownership. I'm not being negative, just realistic.
I wish you well.
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Agreed. Like I said, this is my second device and the shutdowns didn't start until 3-4 days after ownership on both devices. The reality (for me) is that the Captivate isn't so great after all after two devices already (sorry to say) but I'm not going to give up just yet. I have until the 31st to decide whether I will continue this 30-day early upgrade trial or take it back and continue to use my HTC Fuze and just let my contract expire (in October). If I take it back, come October, I will decide whether I will stay with AT&T and take on another (hopefully bug-free) Captivate, or move to Verizon and check out their Android phones -- HTC and Motorola devices!
I just did a hardware master reset. It isn't exactly a hardware master reset like the tech guy described it. He gave me the directions to "delete user data". It deleted the apps that I have downloaded from the Market, and other things. I don't know what else. However, when it booted up again, I noticed my settings and widgets are still there. My homescreen was still customized the way I had it. So, it's not a total master reset. The software Factory Reset isn't also a total (software) reset. I did that and found some folders left in my internal memory (not my external MicroSD) from the previous working session. Hmm..
my captivate started to shutdown about five days ago. it's been doing it once a day, always in the morning. i wonder if it has something to do with the power management. the phone is always charged overnight and the shutdowns always seem to happen about an hour or so after i unplug it from the charger.
the one day it didn't shut down, i noticed that the lock screen was unresponsive (ie i couldn't unlock the phone) and i ended up having to power down the phone anyway.
vksf01 said:
my captivate started to shutdown about five days ago. it's been doing it once a day, always in the morning. i wonder if it has something to do with the power management. the phone is always charged overnight and the shutdowns always seem to happen about an hour or so after i unplug it from the charger.
the one day it didn't shut down, i noticed that the lock screen was unresponsive (ie i couldn't unlock the phone) and i ended up having to power down the phone anyway.
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exactly how it happens on mine.
i'll see what happens over the rest of the week and then try the master reset. if it still happens, i'm going to return this for another one. unfortunately, i've had it for over 30 days.
vksf01 said:
i'll see what happens over the rest of the week and then try the master reset. if it still happens, i'm going to return this for another one. unfortunately, i've had it for over 30 days.
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Even after 30 days, you will still be able to return it (maybe to Samsung) for repair or a replacement. Good luck.
vksf01 said:
my captivate started to shutdown about five days ago. it's been doing it once a day, always in the morning. i wonder if it has something to do with the power management. the phone is always charged overnight and the shutdowns always seem to happen about an hour or so after i unplug it from the charger.
the one day it didn't shut down, i noticed that the lock screen was unresponsive (ie i couldn't unlock the phone) and i ended up having to power down the phone anyway.
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Mine has shut down twice, and I've only had it for 12 days. As you described, it happened both times in the morning, following a recharge.
I had to remove and replace the battery to get it to turn back on, is that the same thing that happened to you? I mean to say, did you have to remove and replace the battery to get it to work again?
The two Captivates I've owned (and returned due to a combination of GPS and Random Shut Downs) have shut down on me even in the middle of the day (not only in the morning after recharging for the night). It shut down on me while getting my afternoon coffee. I was showing the phone to the Barista, set the phone down on the counter to pay, picked it up, walked back to my office and just when I'm about to wake it up, it does the bootup. It also shut down on me at night while walking in the dark. I noticed my pocket lit up. I pulled out my phone and I saw the Shut Down screen as if you had pressed and held the power button (but nothing else was in my pocket that could have pressed the button!).
Random, I tell ya. Random.
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exactly how it happens on mine.
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Larry202br said:
Mine has shut down twice, and I've only had it for 12 days. As you described, it happened both times in the morning, following a recharge.
I had to remove and replace the battery to get it to turn back on, is that the same thing that happened to you? I mean to say, did you have to remove and replace the battery to get it to work again?
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no, i just turned it back on using the power button.
I just wanted to chime in to say that I am having the same problem. Random shutdowns, not necessarily related to charging. Often they are in the morning however. For me it has been happening a few times a day. Likewise, it seems to have not happened at first, but began a few days ago (I have owned the phone about 2 weeks.)
Are you guys rooted? I have tried unrooting to see if that matters. I don't know why it would, but perhaps...
I've been through 2 G2x's , both have had the same problems...
Random reboots
Random freezes
Random shutdowns
Crazy inconsistencies in battery life
I've also gone the route of rooting and trying CyanogenMod with the same results.
With the battery issues, I did the following test 3 nights in a row.
Phone wiped, 100% battery charge, signed into Google and let the apps download, rebooted phone, data connection turned off (airplane mode), unplugged the phone and set in the exact same spot in the same room 3 nights in a row at 11PM.
Come 8AM when I woke here's the results:
Day 1: 30% battery remaining
Day 2: 80% battery remaining
Day 3: 0% remaining - battery was stone cold dead - wouldn't boot until I plugged in.
Phone was fine when I started typing this post, but just now while typing this message I reached over to check my phone for text messages (I keep the alerts volume all the way down while at work) and it's locked up again...
Guess I'll be returning the phone for a refund and borrowing an old flip phone for a month until the Sensation comes out.
Sorry LG - when it works, it works AWESOME, but I need something a bit more reliable considering that work needs to contact me on the phone and I am on call 24/7 !
In the 2 weeks I've had it I've only had 2 random freezes and no other issues at all. This is my first android phone and the thing i see that's screwed up with android is it leaves applications open, there is no exit buttons on apps. I've been using juice defender and uninstalling any apps that keep popping back up after ending task on them.
Sorry to hear about your problems. You're doing the right thing by returning it and getting another phone. I don't understand why people have loyalties to corporations who could give 2 craps about you. Buy what works for you and makes you happy.
For me, the occassional reboot on the G2X is a pain but the promise of a stable CM release and an official gingerbread release on this hardware has me sticking it out. Can't wait
I haven't had any issues with my phone except battery life. Buy my battery life isn't as bad as yours. It used to be horrible but I got a new sim and that seemed to make it better.
Regarding the reboots, some apps are causing the phone to reboot. Either the apps aren't optimized for the phone or the other way around. I had one reboot and after I removed the offending app, never happened again.
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kangxi said:
I haven't had any issues with my phone except battery life. Buy my battery life isn't as bad as yours. It used to be horrible but I got a new sim and that seemed to make it better.
Regarding the reboots, some apps are causing the phone to reboot. Either the apps aren't optimized for the phone or the other way around. I had one reboot and after I removed the offending app, never happened again.
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Actually, when I bought the phone I had them put a brand new SIM card as mine was getting to be a little long in the tooth - if getting a new one helps the situation I'd hate to see how it was with my old one :-D
Removing an offending app would prove to be a real problem for me though, as everything that I install has a legitimate work-related function.
im returning mine today for a newer batch one. its may 4 so i expect one that has the date of 4/24 and up as stated in other threads. mine reboots and freezes during random functions.
I ordered mine on the 20th so the day the phone was out in the store. I had to order mine online since i am a T-Mobile RSA. I have alittle screen bleed but not much. I will be doing exchanges until i get one with no bleed. Other wise i have had no problems at all. No reboots, lock ups, data problems, nothing the phone is rock solid. I love the phone. Every person that has come into my store with problems i have told them that T-Mobile is going to exchange this for you under the lifetime warranty if you have it for the life of you having the phone. So you have nothing to worry about. The phone is a great phone to have. Do the exchanges until you get a working one. I know i would do it until i did. Even if it meant doing it 100 times.
JWhipple said:
I've been through 2 G2x's , both have had the same problems...
Random reboots
Random freezes
Random shutdowns
Crazy inconsistencies in battery life
I've also gone the route of rooting and trying CyanogenMod with the same results.
With the battery issues, I did the following test 3 nights in a row.
Phone wiped, 100% battery charge, signed into Google and let the apps download, rebooted phone, data connection turned off (airplane mode), unplugged the phone and set in the exact same spot in the same room 3 nights in a row at 11PM.
Come 8AM when I woke here's the results:
Day 1: 30% battery remaining
Day 2: 80% battery remaining
Day 3: 0% remaining - battery was stone cold dead - wouldn't boot until I plugged in.
Phone was fine when I started typing this post, but just now while typing this message I reached over to check my phone for text messages (I keep the alerts volume all the way down while at work) and it's locked up again...
Guess I'll be returning the phone for a refund and borrowing an old flip phone for a month until the Sensation comes out.
Sorry LG - when it works, it works AWESOME, but I need something a bit more reliable considering that work needs to contact me on the phone and I am on call 24/7 !
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A better test would have been to not install any apps. Then you could truly test your phone and not some rogue app, that you keep installing.
I'm about to do a complete wipe again and use a secondary Gmail account I have so to eliminate any apps from auto-installing and test throughout the day since I have my work PC handy.
or just skip the Gmail sign in process at first and add your Gmail account later from Settings. This will prevent it downloading your apps on first boot.
Also to the New Android User: Back closes apps, Home leaves them open. It isn't the OS's fault if you don't know how to use it.
To the OP: Have you rooted and flashed the Pre-Dexopt Patch from Paul?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051616
LG left the phone in Dev mode and doesn't dexopt the phone on initial bootup. This is why our phones boot so quickly. The downfall is after a few hours, it starts to lag out and lock up/reboot.
Sounds exactly like the problem you are having.
This patch is required for stock and EaglesBlood Roms excluding CM7. This should be fixed in the upcoming Gingerbread update. I also believe EaglesBlood and future roms will start coming with this patch included.
So do yourself a favor and patch it.
Basically, it's an awesome phone and many, if not all, of the issues should be resolved with software updates. Gingerbread is already in the works.
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player911 said:
or just skip the Gmail sign in process at first and add your Gmail account later from Settings. This will prevent it downloading your apps on first boot.
Also to the New Android User: Back closes apps, Home leaves them open. It isn't the OS's fault if you don't know how to use it.
To the OP: Have you rooted and flashed the Pre-Dexopt Patch from Paul?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051616
LG left the phone in Dev mode and doesn't dexopt the phone on initial bootup. This is why our phones boot so quickly. The downfall is after a few hours, it starts to lag out and lock up/reboot.
Sounds exactly like the problem you are having.
This patch is required for stock and EaglesBlood Roms excluding CM7. This should be fixed in the upcoming Gingerbread update. I also believe EaglesBlood and future roms will start coming with this patch included.
So do yourself a favor and patch it.
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Yep, have tried without the patch initially and then with it.
I have signed in with the secondary Gmail account - only thing I imported from the original was my contacts, so, it's 100% stock with the exception of Paul's patch and recovery.
I'll be damned...
In an attempt to preemptively find out what I would need to return the accessories I ordered for the phone just in case I took the plunge and returned the phone, I was on hold with T-Mobile...
And while on hold, I grabbed my phone - and SURE ENOUGH - LOCKED UP HARD!
So, I guess this just made up my mind for me - I'll be returning this phone to point of purchase. Just need to use NAND to restore the stock backup , reflash stock recovery and unroot...
I am planing to return this phone too..
It seems the phone shut down completely for no reason, sometimes the screen doesn't wake up even tho phone is running in background.
So far i have tried to run completely stock with no apps installed no sync nothing and i was getting battery like 6-7 hrs.
I guess that was not acceptable for me.
I might have to wait till HTC Sensation comes out. What you think guys ?
Mine works fine, no problems at all, yes the screen bleeds a bit, but I can deal with that.
awesome phone, much better than my atrix
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Slappy00 said:
Mine works fine, no problems at all, yes the screen bleeds a bit, but I can deal with that.
awesome phone, much better than my atrix
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+1 Mine also works amazing... and a lotttt better than atrix....
ikm19 said:
I am planing to return this phone too..
It seems the phone shut down completely for no reason, sometimes the screen doesn't wake up even tho phone is running in background.
So far i have tried to run completely stock with no apps installed no sync nothing and i was getting battery like 6-7 hrs.
I guess that was not acceptable for me.
I might have to wait till HTC Sensation comes out. What you think guys ?
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That's where my money is going...
my understanding is the sensation is locked down that's why cyan isn't going to get it. Which also means no dev support.
The MyTouch 4G and G2 were locked down too... Unless they are going to lock the bootloader?
ikm19 said:
I might have to wait till HTC Sensation comes out. What you think guys ?
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HTC announced an update to the Sensation in Q3 that will include a NFC chip to match the features of the SGS2. I'm also guessing they'll increase the amount of RAM in the phone to make it more competitive. If the 2.3.3 update makes the G2X stable I may keep it until later in the year. If the Sensation comes out before they update the G2X I'll get Sensation. I need a phone that's consistently dependable and in that regard the G2X is a mess. I can't do custom ROMs because I travel globally and everyone I've ever used has always given me problems registering on foreign networks so CM7 is no silver bullet for me. It's a shame too because the G2X hardware (bleeding screen excepted) is pretty slick and it's really fast when the planets line up and everything works. Sigh.
Had the g2x since launch day, loved the speed, size, etc. Never had a single reboot (actually did once or twice while charging in the first few days), screen bleed and had fairly good battery life to boot with fairly heavy usage. What more can you ask for, right?
So fast forward to today...i was in the middle of typing a text and battery died, I was at 1%. So I plug it in, turn it on and then it got really hot and non stop rebooting only while on the charger. Taking it off the charger would stop the reboots, plug it in again reboot cycle again within minutes (no sound to warn me its rebooting, no start up animation).
Eventually when it was on the charger the battery icon looked really weird, it was completely white with 2 circular arrows in it, never seen that before, anyone know what that means.
After a while the phone cooled down and has now been charging for he last hour with no rebooting. I did call Tmo and they are sending me a new battery and handset.
I am unsure what to do, keep mine since it appears to be fine now or keep the replacement items. I am not rooted completely stock with minimal apps installed.
I really, really dont feel like setting up all my prefs again and reinstalling apps. One thing is for sure i am seriuosly considering the HTC sensation now. Had the MT4G before and it was great, so my perception of HTC is high.
mikea3000 said:
Had the g2x since launch day, loved the speed, size, etc. Never had a single reboot (actually did once or twice while charging in the first few days), screen bleed and had fairly good battery life to boot with fairly heavy usage. What more can you ask for, right?
So fast forward to today...i was in the middle of typing a text and battery died, I was at 1%. So I plug it in, turn it on and then it got really hot and non stop rebooting only while on the charger. Taking it off the charger would stop the reboots, plug it in again reboot cycle again within minutes (no sound to warn me its rebooting, no start up animation).
Eventually when it was on the charger the battery icon looked really weird, it was completely white with 2 circular arrows in it, never seen that before, anyone know what that means.
After a while the phone cooled down and has now been charging for he last hour with no rebooting. I did call Tmo and they are sending me a new battery and handset.
I am unsure what to do, keep mine since it appears to be fine now or keep the replacement items. I am not rooted completely stock with minimal apps installed.
I really, really dont feel like setting up all my prefs again and reinstalling apps. One thing is for sure i am seriuosly considering the HTC sensation now. Had the MT4G before and it was great, so my perception of HTC is high.
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If you don't notice any problems, keep it
The same thing happened to me this morning
Battery health status OVERHEAT
took off battery cover, i powered off through menu, powered back on through button
WHITE BATTERY REFRESH LOGO followed by media scan
Working as good as ever, and actually my battery life is a little better
Get a new battery asap. Yours is bad if it's overhearing during charge.
diablos991 said:
Get a new battery asap. Yours is bad if it's overhearing during charge.
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im kind of in the same boat as the op but not as bad on the overheating. how do i get a new battery? i bought from amazon and its past the return period.
My opinion of LG is really low. First the sd card slot died on my Optimus T and then numerous problems with my returned G2x. I hate to say it, but the grass is definitely greener on the HTC side right now. I will be checking out the sensation if permaroot happens.
yup, mine did the same thing. all was good for a month or so then boom my battery just freaked out. I wrestled with it a few days then last night it went from 100% - 0% in 6hrs while powered off. It's the battery. Get a new one.
Mine doesn't reboot...it just shuts off. Won't turn back on until I yank the battery. Only issue happens like once a day. But ill point out I'm now pissed Droid x gets gb Friday and I'm still using froyo...granted.by choice because I refuse to use a leak.
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ericc191 said:
My opinion of LG is really low. First the sd card slot died on my Optimus T and then numerous problems with my returned G2x. I hate to say it, but the grass is definitely greener on the HTC side right now. I will be checking out the sensation if permaroot happens.
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Not to change subject here but permaroot doesn't do much if the bootloader is locked. Gaining root doesn't mean custom roms or mods. You'll be able to use Titanium Backup but so what.
Also, back on topic. There are lots of reports that the batteries are bad and if it is over heating I'd definatly replace it.
Tmo sent me a replacement G2x after I thought I fried mine. I fixed it eventually by flashing several CWM recoveries. The replacement had nasty screen bleed. Needless-to-say I sent the replacement packing.
I was using my phone all day yesterday like usual I let my battery die all the way before charging again and today for some reason my battery is dying quickly.
Took off the charger at 6 am and it is now 11am and I have only 50% usually I have 70% or so. I hope my battery is not crapping out on me... I guess Ill find out in the next few days maybe this is just a fluke... I hope...
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Not to change subject here but permaroot doesn't do much if the bootloader is locked. Gaining root doesn't mean custom roms or mods. You'll be able to use Titanium Backup but so what.
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Good thing it's not gonna be locked then eh?
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/htc-decides-to-unlock-bootloaders-moving-forward/
RevenG said:
Good thing it's not gonna be locked then eh?
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/htc-decides-to-unlock-bootloaders-moving-forward/
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It is locked and HTC said this policy applies only moving forward. Which means future phones. There is no word about existing phones yet.
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I am on my third G2x. From the day I received the last one(3 weeks ago) it has been rock solid(NO reboots-no screen freezes- no dropping data connections). Two days ago I bought a router and decided to use wifi in my home. Since hooking it up and running the G2X on it I find that I have reboots-screen freezes and oh yes data connection dropped (numerous times)I guess the wifi is just not meant for this phone. 3 weeks of happy usage and bam!! wifi in the house. I have also had apps changing settings without my doing so( never happened before wifi usage<) Also now the Gps is even worse than before.Been running it without the wifi and still getting the same issues now. Oh how I wish I had just stopped after the second one and asked for refund. This could (and probably will be eventually) a super super phone. I just don't know if I have the patience to wait . I just ordered an Asus Transformer which will be here on 5/31/11, maybe playing with it will soften my stance on how I view the G2x at this moment. Anyone else had the wifi situation?
I'm rooted with cwm. I have random freezes but it appears to only be random kernels. As well as only certain versions of android. Once the gb update comes out, I'm sure alot of our problems will clear up...
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I Baught the infuse on launch day off a friend of a friend of mine that was elgible for an upgrade. I gave him the money for the phone plus $100 for himself for doing it. The phone has been really hot the last few days. Yesterday it was at or around 100 Degrees F after i started using it (very light use). Last night when charging it took over 7 hours to fully charge. I turned screen brightness all the way down, have underclocked the processor to 800MHZ, what else can i do? Today the thing died on me in 3.5 hours and i didnt even use it... The screen was on for a total of 15 minutes. It was at about 105 degrees all day... i tried to contact the person who sold it to me to see if they could meet me at the store to try to return it for another unit, to make a long story short im unable to get ahold of them at all so im out of luck. What can i do? Is it possible to return to at&t without the reciept? I doubt it. I dont think the problem is the battery however, Ive take the battery out and its nice and cool, the hot area seems to be the metalic part covering the sim card right underneath the camera area thats hot. I can try to buy another battery but i dont think the issue is the battery. Im not sure what to do at this point. Any ideas on how i can cool the phone down? Or get a replacement unit?
It sounds like you have something running in the background that is forcing your processor to run at maximum speed (and voltage) all the time.
Try a menu->settings->factory data reset and dont install anything but updates, report back if it still gets hot.
Widget locker is being reported to cause issues fyi.
Might try contacting samsung. Maybe a battery problem. But sounds more like what previous poster said Runaway proceser
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look in settings about phone for battery use. post results. it may be a bad app, it may be the radio needs to be reset. the radio's can put off as much as or more heat than the processor. if it says cell radio 50% then you just need to enter airplane mode and then turn airplane mode off.
*#*#4636#*#* and go into battery stats you can check all usage there lots of cool stuff
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It sounds like you have something running in the background that is forcing your processor to run at maximum speed (and voltage) all the time.
Try a menu->settings->factory data reset and dont install anything but updates, report back if it still gets hot.
Widget locker is being reported to cause issues fyi.
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Thank you all so much for the responses, I have widgetlocker installed ... I will try that right now and report back. I've noticed too when I use setcpu after about an hour or so it would reset itself and I would have to go back in and reset it to whatever settings I had before
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look in settings about phone for battery use. post results. it may be a bad app, it may be the radio needs to be reset. the radio's can put off as much as or more heat than the processor. if it says cell radio 50% then you just need to enter airplane mode and then turn airplane mode off.
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Everything seems normal there. Screen is at 85%
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NVM.
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What wall charger are you using? The correct specs wall charger for the phone shouldn't give you the choice menu for mass storage,... etc. It should just charge.
I found that if I used the wrong type of wall charger(even car charger) the battery would get very warm. Using the charger that came with the phone doesnt do this.
I think the phone seems to go into a usb mode but gets way more current than expected.
I would call samsung, they will honor their warranty, regardless of who purchased the device.
I had problem with htc inspire, which I have bought on Ebay and I obviously didnt have a receipt for it.
To make a long story short I took it to att and they have replaced it for me no questions asked.
I said I have bought it from a private party.
I'm hoping that all of the responses of guys here at forum helped You, but if not remember, to try Your last resource which is att warranty department.
But I would personally go to corporate store not call them.
When You buy anything warranty usually stays with the device not the owner.
I believe, there is stubborn application running in the background, have You tried taskiller?
Good Luck!
I'm kinda hesitant to post this, because I know you guys go through great lengths to emphasize searching first. I watched the video when I registered, nice touch. More forums could use vids like that!
oh well, here we go:
I have owned an Iphone every since they where introduced to the market. I have been wanting to make a switch for a while now. I was very close to purchasing a G2x back in April when they came out, but I held off. Well recently, a coworker let me check out his HTC G2 and I was amazed at the functionality, features, and other misc items compared to my old Iphone 3GS. I was never a fan of the slide out keyboard, so I knew the G2 was not for me.
Last week, I just missed the free promo on T-MO's web site, so Instead I purchased a G2X locally. I was totally unaware of all the problems you guys where having, as the typical review sites never mention these issues.
I have owned the phone for 8 days, So far here is whats been a going on:
7-29-11 Purchased the phone from Best Buy, decided to buy from them since they where the cheapest out the door with out rebate. I hate rebates! lol
Right before I am going to bed, I plug in to charge, and the phone shuts off, I cannot get it to power back up. I did not know about pulling the battery, I thought it had just died. I was going to wake up the next morning and take it back.
7-30-11 When I woke up, I looked around online, and found out about removing the battery and putting it back in. Now phone is working again.
I was able to get the OTA update to 2.3.3, right after the update, I did a master reset.
8-2-11 I downloaded a "radio scanner" app, and the first time I executed it, the phone froze, requiring another battery pull. Afterwards, the app ran fine.
Those are the only 2 major issues I have had.
Here are a few other things I noticed:
Screen: No separation, very slight light blur around top corners with lit black screen. Does not bother me, and I can't really notice it 99% of the time.
GPS: I know some have been having issues with this, for me, The time to get an accurate fix can sometimes take anywhere from 5-30 seconds. Even with the stock toggle always turned on, I do not always have the GPS Icon in the top bar, I don't know if I am supposed to. Can someone please confirm this?
WI FI: Seems to be working like intended, no complaints there.
BT: I have nothing to pair with the phone, so I will probably never know.
Making calls: this is kinda annoying, I will look through my call log and select a person, I see the dialer initiating so I put the phone to my ear, but a few seconds go by and nothing.... I look at the phone and find myself looking at the call log again, like the dialer crashed? Also, during the conversation the screen will turn off. I think this is normal, but when the phone detects motion shouldn't the screen turn back on?
Other than that, I love this phone so far. However, I do not want to swap handset after handset, refurb after refurb with T-MO or LG.
Is it possible that the phone will NOT continue to get worse as time goes on? Or should I take the first shut down as a sign of whats to come in the future? I have a 6 days left to take this thing back, but I am having a major conflict with myself about keeping it. What makes it even harder, Is I have already ordered a 32g micro SD, Trident case, and 3 extra data cables.
My plans are to root it, and run some sort of rom with it once I read up and half ass know what I am doing.
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TLDR:
Have owned phone for a week. Shut down instantly the first time I charged it requiring a battery pull. Froze/crashed due to an app maybe Second battery pull.
Question a few functions but otherwise works like a champ.
Purchased case, micro sd, extra data cables.
thinking of taking it back and cancelling contract to avoid future headaches, but not sure if I should or want to at this point. need avdice please!
Doesn't sound like a lemon. The stock software is buggy. If you're gonna root it and flash another rom then you're gonna love this phone.
The GPS indicator is normal. It only shows when an app is using GPS for your location. Otherwise it doesn't show.
G2X CM7
It doesn't sound like a lemon to me either. I bought mine in April and my phone had a few reboots while charging overnight and two freezes in the first month. It has been OK since then, although I did not do anything about it (and I'm still on Froyo). The only thing I do is that I reboot my phone manually once in 7-10 days because the phone starts to lag. I believe this is normal for all smartphones including iPhone...or am I wrong?
Oh, forgot to mention when I hit the power button to wake the phone and go to the lock screen, I briefly see the last screen I was in before the phone went into sleep mode. Total lack of QA in my opinion... Will a rom fix this?
And yes Man of La Mancha, the iphone would get somewhat glitchy, but a reboot always took care of it. I didn't really have to reboot it too often, maybe once every 2 weeks or so.
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Oh, forgot to mention when I hit the power button to wake the phone and go to the lock screen, I briefly see the last screen I was in before the phone went into sleep mode. Total lack of QA in my opinion... Will a rom fix this?
And yes Man of La Mancha, the iphone would get somewhat glitchy, but a reboot always took care of it. I didn't really have to reboot it too often, maybe once every 2 weeks or so.
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The lockscreen issue is a known bug. CM7, or any ROM with 2.3.4+ doesn't have that problem.