We know tegra 2 has problem with 1080p HP, can the adreno 220 playback 1080p HP?
Yes it can, smoothly
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I agree. It can play 1080p videos, and the phone seems to do it with ease.
By 1080p do you mean 1080p high profile?
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By 1080p do you mean 1080p high profile?
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That is what the title of the post says...
Most movies etc is around 24fps.. Not sure why u need 50-60fps tho I don't really have any movie at those rates. If u can find me one i'll be happy to try
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By 1080p do you mean 1080p high profile?
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By 1080p I mean 1080p.
1080p just means 1080 horizontal lines, displayed progressively (ie. line 1, then line 2, then line 3, etc).
I don't know what you mean by "HP". Never heard of it. 1080p video can be a number of different video formats (mp4, h.264, etc.) and a number of different FPS (24, 25, 30, etc).
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By 1080p I mean 1080p.
1080p just means 1080 horizontal lines, displayed progressively (ie. line 1, then line 2, then line 3, etc).
I don't know what you mean by "HP". Never heard of it. 1080p video can be a number of different video formats (mp4, h.264, etc.) and a number of different FPS (24, 25, 30, etc).
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h.264 is a codec, mp4 is a container. They are different things. Just y 2c
Info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p
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Most movies etc is around 24fps.. Not sure why u need 50-60fps tho I don't really have any movie at those rates. If u can find me one i'll be happy to try
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I believe blu rays use 1080p high profile and stuff on the web is as well. I would prefer not to convert videos that I don't have to.
Its so hard to find any technical information about the adreno 220. I remember Qcomm boasting how it was 2x the power of tegra. Obviously that is a huge lie, but it would be nice to know what it officially supports.
Can any one with a sensation try to play this clip:
http://www.dvdloc8.com/clip.php?movieid=13599&clipid=4
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Can any one with a sensation try to play this clip:
http://www.dvdloc8.com/clip.php?movieid=13599&clipid=4
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Video looks great but I'm not getting any sound. Tried stock, mobo, and dice players.
karnovaran said:
Video looks great but I'm not getting any sound. Tried stock, mobo, and dice players.
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Try qqplayer
brusko1972 said:
Try qqplayer
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I did but qq wouldn't even do video.
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We know tegra 2 has problem with 1080p HP, can the adreno 220 playback 1080p HP?
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The Adreno220 is capable of SBS (side by side) Stereocopic video @ 1080p, Pretty powerful stuff.
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Can any one with a sensation try to play this clip:
http://www.dvdloc8.com/clip.php?movieid=13599&clipid=4
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tried with rockplayer. the details shows that the audio for this video uses 6 channels, is that the reason why no audio could be heard while playing
well so far i watched quite some 720p mkvs.. like hdtv rips and 720p bluray rips : these work fine with diceplayer
1080p trailers sometimes fluent and sometimes not...but dont get ur hopes up for 1080p bluray rips (6gig/10gig) these it cannot handle.. hope that this will be fixed in near future by software developments
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Can Xoom play .mkv video files?
I have a lot of 720p .mkv movies. I was wondering if I can watch 720p .mkv movies on the Xoom.
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Can Xoom play .mkv video files?
I have a lot of 720p .mkv movies. I was wondering if I can watch 720p .mkv movies on the Xoom.
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i doubt the native player can but i wouldnt be surprised to see some to some support for it later in the app market. most players out of box dont support mkv i believe
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/221011-app-play-avi-mkv-files.html
Rockplayer, arcMedia, VPlayer, yxplayer just to name a few.
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I just tested Rockplayer and yxplayer on my CM7 Galaxy S and I can play my avi's now. It COULD work on honeycomb.
Prob not....
I doubt that the xoom will be able to play .mkv files right out of the box. But Im sure that there are other players in the market that will be able to. I used to have an iPad (but sold it to get the xoom) and that was one of my main problems, not being able to play .mkv, but the VLC app worked perfectly for me, the only problem was that the iPad wasn't powerful enough to run a 720p or an 1080p .mkv file. Kept lagging and the audio was out of sync. Hopefull with the tegra 2 processor and the 1080p support the xoom will be able to play my files.
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http://androidforums.com/android-applications/221011-app-play-avi-mkv-files.html
I just tested Rockplayer and yxplayer on my CM7 Galaxy S and I can play my avi's now. It COULD work on honeycomb.
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I tested all of them on Dell Streak 5, Nexus One and Inspire 4G, they can play but with lags. Ironically, the cheap Archos can play the same file fine. Go figure.
just make sure theyre not more than 4gbs. damn android file size limitation.
robbiev80 said:
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/221011-app-play-avi-mkv-files.html
I just tested Rockplayer and yxplayer on my CM7 Galaxy S and I can play my avi's now. It COULD work on honeycomb.
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Galaxy S has native Divx support and can play AVI and MKV through the built in video player. No need for any third party players. I doubt the Xoom will have divx certification, but it certainly should be able to decode 720P MKV files using a software solution through Rockplayer.
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I tested all of them on Dell Streak 5, Nexus One and Inspire 4G, they can play but with lags. Ironically, the cheap Archos can play the same file fine. Go figure.
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none of these have dual core either so the xoom will be able to handle high def mkvs, we probably just have to wait for a player that take advantage of dual core to smooth out playback.
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none of these have dual core either so the xoom will be able to handle high def mkvs, we probably just have to wait for a player that take advantage of dual core to smooth out playback.
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I don't think it has anything to do with CPU as Archos doesn't have that issue (although it has many other issues)...
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just make sure theyre not more than 4gbs. damn android file size limitation.
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what does it use FAT32??
muyoso said:
Galaxy S has native Divx support and can play AVI and MKV through the built in video player. No need for any third party players. I doubt the Xoom will have divx certification, but it certainly should be able to decode 720P MKV files using a software solution through Rockplayer.
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Not if you are running CM7 (as I stated in my post). CM7 = AOSP based.
OR u can use Handbrake to help u convert mkv to mp4 for playback on your xoom
Beware, that's not true. Xoom has limitation for what kind of video files it can play:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45753?tstart=0
This has been discussed many times, all the forum threads are still alive.
You can search and join the talk.
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I doubt that the xoom will be able to play .mkv files right out of the box. But Im sure that there are other players in the market that will be able to. I used to have an iPad (but sold it to get the xoom) and that was one of my main problems, not being able to play .mkv, but the VLC app worked perfectly for me, the only problem was that the iPad wasn't powerful enough to run a 720p or an 1080p .mkv file. Kept lagging and the audio was out of sync. Hopefull with the tegra 2 processor and the 1080p support the xoom will be able to play my files.
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none of these have dual core either so the xoom will be able to handle high def mkvs, we probably just have to wait for a player that take advantage of dual core to smooth out playback.
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But it will still be limited by the FAT32 file system. You can't play full length 1080p simply because the files are too big.
please stop spreading this nonsense. its not true. this is a horrible false news being spread way to much. i just dont get people.
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But it will still be limited by the FAT32 file system. You can't play full length 1080p simply because the files are too big.
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Isn't the whole 32Gb formated in EXT4? Why would there me any use of FAT32!?
What nonsense?
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please stop spreading this nonsense. its not true. this is a horrible false news being spread way to much. i just dont get people.
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andycai said:
I tested all of them on Dell Streak 5, Nexus One and Inspire 4G, they can play but with lags. Ironically, the cheap Archos can play the same file fine. Go figure.
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my sentiments exactly, my Archos 101 can play every video file I thro w at it, I did purchase the $12 Cinema Plugin, the inability of the xoom to play some video files is what is keeping me from buying one, among other things
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Isn't the whole 32Gb formated in EXT4? Why would there me any use of FAT32!?
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Oh, I have an Evo and I think the file system on the SD card is FAT32. Can Windows 7 read EXT4?
Motorola's official word is to use <15MBps video on 720 and it will be fine.
Check the sticky faq here, it has the link to full Moto article.
...Xoom?
Is 720p (high profile) issues just on Xoom or is it really limitation of Tegra 2.
Can someone make a proper and thorough test?
Is playback from NAS and DLNA supported?
Thanks for intterest and help!
Tegra 2 = Tegra 2
You get the idea.
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...Xoom?
Is 720p (high profile) issues just on Xoom or is it really limitation of Tegra 2.
Can someone make a proper and thorough test?
Is playback from NAS and DLNA supported?
Thanks for intterest and help!
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I can play 720 x246 videos! 1080 struggles thought.
jonny blond said:
I can play 720 x246 videos! 1080 struggles thought.
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246p only, that is kind of disappointing. I pretty sure it can do better.
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246p only, that is kind of disappointing. I pretty sure it can do better.
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I think he means 720p video using the x264 codec.
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I think he means 720p video using the x264 codec.
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Thanks for clearing that out for me. 720x246 resolution would totally suck.
ok....
h.264 - great!
720p - great!
but what profile??? 99% of videos in the net (and the ones I have ripped myself from my discs) are high profile
If high profile is not supported - not great :-(
So... question to u:
jonny blond said:
I can play 720 x246 videos! 1080 struggles thought.
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What profile?
galtom said:
ok....
h.264 - great!
720p - great!
but what profile??? 99% of videos in the net (and the ones I have ripped myself from my discs) are high profile
If high profile is not supported - not great :-(
So... question to u:
What profile?
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High profile isn't playing well on Tegra 2, YET. I'm sure it will. Until then, re-encode your movies.
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High profile isn't playing well on Tegra 2, YET. I'm sure it will.
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And you base this belief on what?
I can not afford to re-encode my movies - simply do not have time to do it :-(
I'm at work without the ASUS, but can I get someone to try something please?
A guy at work tried a few clips from here using the Samsung Galaxy Tab.
The first fantastic four and serenity clips played fine (both high profile supposedly) The 1080p Simpsons clip played, but with no sound.
Can some nice person try these?
Thanks!
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A guy at work tried a few clips from here using the Samsung Galaxy Tab.
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Funnily enough I tried a couple of these on my Transformer and Galaxy Tab yesterday.
The Bourne Ultimatum (baseline profile) played fine on both, but only the GT would play the Silver Surfer (high profile) acceptably.
Regards,
Dave
It seems that Rockplayer isn't handling this well. Software decoding is very very sluggish and it just crashes with hardware decoding. Anyone have any ideas for playback of these files?
maybe try MoboPlayer?
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maybe try MoboPlayer?
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No go Forces me to use Software Decoding which is still laggy
Try VitalPlayer Neon.
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Try VitalPlayer Neon.
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Both Neon and Original state to use the Software Codec.
This sucks... I mean how else am I gonna watch my Justin Bieber Music Videos in full HD?! (j/k!)
liquidblue1985 said:
Both Neon and Original state to use the Software Codec.
This sucks... I mean how else am I gonna watch my Justin Bieber Music Videos in full HD?! (j/k!)
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See now thats just wrong! You need aleast a 98 inch flat screen to watch Justin!
The only way to watch JB is in 3D!
Haha! Still no luck on any players. Tried a few others from the market with no prevail.
I've had problems with MKV and MP4s of various types on the Viewsonic G Tablet (Tegra 2).
We NEED 2.4 for some dual-core Tegra 2 optimization.
Hello, playing with my new toy. Have a DHD and quite experienced with rooting etc.
Im currently having some lag issues with mkv and or 720p or above movies. Tried mobo player and the normal one.
Currently have the revolver rom, feels quite good i like the update app which came with it. Going to try revHD rom later tonight to see if there is any improvements.
Whats a recomended video player or rom for movie stuff? Answers on a postcard, Thanks!
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Paid: Dice Player
Free: MX Video Player
Also, hd video is really difficult for the Tegra 2 that barely handles 720p. You can have 1080p, and smooth, but it will most likely need to be re-encoded so that the hardware will like it... you might want to try to overclock, often that solves the issue, even if not always.
If you go for the re-encode way, use h264 basic profile, that's the biggest deal.
Thats really a bummer since i thought the tegra 2 is well capable to display atleast 720p mkv videos having a hd screen. Is it the tegra Architektur which doesnt play nicely with hd mkv material or just software related?
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Really? The mkv videos I downloaded the other day works just fine.. but I guess it could be because I'm overclocking? I mean, it was 720 p and it was working way smoooth with Mobo so I don't know where your complaints come frmo..
It has to do with the type of encoding. You can get 1080p to play if you encode it right
just tried a 720p clip and it does play smoothly with HW encoding but can not play the sound back. Is it because of the sound track being dts 7.1 ch?
How long takes to convert a video with handbrake?
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Don't reencode the videos. Use a MKV -> MP4 Tool to reencode the audiostream to aac. It's way faster.
Have a look at my tests http://painfullyrandom.blogspot.com/2011/08/testing-android-video-decoding.html and/or search here on XDA for Tegra hd video. Sadly it's not the best choice for video play... It works but it's far from optimal.
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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Try Diceplayer. The only reason it won't playback ANY file well, is because the bit-rate is too high for Tegra 2. All the videos I download are 720P h264 and it plays them just fine. The only time it struggles is when there is fast panning (which results in a higher bitrate if it's a variable bitrate). All things said, I have no issues playing any videos, even those with 7.1 channel audio.
Also, use the search function. This is discussed at length in a few other threads in the transformer forums. I think it was specifically in the Themes/Apps forum.
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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Try Diceplayer. The only reason it won't playback ANY file well, is because the bit-rate is too high for Tegra 2. All the videos I download are 720P h264 and it plays them just fine. The only time it struggles is when there is fast panning (which results in a higher bitrate if it's a variable bitrate). All things said, I have no issues playing any videos, even those with 7.1 channel audio.
Also, use the search function. This is discussed at length in a few other threads in the transformer forums. I think it was specifically in the Themes/Apps forum.
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yes, Dice Player is the best so far. Playing videos is a hit / miss with the rest of the free players...
Paran0idAndr0id said:
just tried a 720p clip and it does play smoothly with HW encoding but can not play the sound back. Is it because of the sound track being dts 7.1 ch?
How long takes to convert a video with handbrake?
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same here but the audio is "only" AC3 5.1 the video is super smooth but there is no sound.
I don't know where you get your files, but I'm almost sure I don't want to go to that site.
Example:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/420077/Indiana Jones 4_HD 1080base.mp4
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/420077/Indiana Jones 4_HD 720main.mp4
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/420077/Indiana Jones 4_HD 480high.mp4
those are a few seconds from the trailer of Indiana Jones and the crystal skull grabbed from the PSN "some time" ago. Play them at 1ghz on the Transformer with Dice (or whatever you want), and see what works well... I encoded this stuff in a way that shows my point. Same bitrate for all of them.
The original file is main profile, full hd and slightly higher bitrate. Still plays at 1ghz.
Keep in mind that if you make the file hard to decode, the size could be quite small, once I've watched a reasonably good dvd rip that was 250mb. That's the whole point of h264 vs divx, same quality, smaller file. Or same size better quality, depending on your point of view
I just tried the dice player and it plays the test file without problems being 720p mkv. I think Asus should had intergrated such a mdiaplayer by default
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Hi guys,
I am currently using Android Revolution HD 6.5.1 XE on my Sensation and I have several major problems:
1. I realize that 1080p mkv videos that my phone can play smoothly on Gingerbread (including Youtube HD 1080p) now become laggy. Even with SD videos (fully HW accelerated), sometimes the playback is choppy as well (I use MX player and Dice player). Can anyone help me confirm whether you have the same problems? I believe ARHD ICS does not have GPU overclocked as on Gingerbread, hence the choppy video playback.
2. On random occasions, I cannot get any sound on any applications, but notification sounds and stock music player are working normally. I can still listen to music through the stock player but cannot get any sound for videos. Everything will return to normal when I restart the phone.
3. Wifi randomly turns on by itself. The last time I check, this problem seems to be unsolved, but I may be wrong.
Any kind souls willing to give me some directions to solve the above problems? ARHD Gingerbread ROM does not have any of the problems above, but I don't want to go back to Gingerbread.
Bump, still waiting...
Imo bad flash, I never had those problems. Video playback even on flash has been buttery-smooth.
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And yes talking 1080p video.
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Yes, ARHD ICS does not have GPU overclocked. But that shouldn't be the reason for your video playback problem. Because of your other problems I also believe in a bad flash...Try a reinstall.
Bad Flash or using a wrong kernel.
I have tried flashing the ROM 3 times (also redownload the ROM, check md5), with both stock kernel and Sebastian's kernel (at 1.2, 1.5, 1.7 Ghz) and the video playback is still quite bad. I just flash the latest 6.5.2 on my Sensation and it is still the same problem with video playback. Just to confirm, can you guys watch 1080p youtube hd video without any problems?
The playback problem disappear straight away when I go back to GB.
Like I said, yes, I can. In both the app and on Browser with flash player.
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Video Choppy
Hey man, in MX player, are you hardware accelerating or software accelerating?
I noticed that HW accl is laggy, buy software accl is smooth
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Hey man, in MX player, are you hardware accelerating or software accelerating?
I noticed that HW accl is laggy, buy software accl is smooth
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Yes, I am sure that I play my videos with hardware acceleration, and about your observation, I beg to differ. The way I understand it is like this: with hardware acceleration, the task of video playback is offloaded to the GPU, hence better rendering, frame rate and better battery performance. If you use software rendering, the whole task is given to the CPU, which will need to run at full speed to decode, and there is no guarantee that it plays smoothly. For instance, on my Sensation, without hardware acceleration, 1080p videos are impossible to play.
I am still trying every possible solution to my video playback problem. Yesterday I also tried Sebastian's latest kernel, with GPU overclocked, the frame rate is getting better, but it is still not on par with Gingerbread's performance.
Any other suggestions?
I think my description was not clear enough. The correct word for my situation is actually micro-stuttering, it is similar to situations when you are playing computer games with either nVidia SLI or ATI Crossfire.
I officially give up, don't really know how to solve the problem now.
why dont you try flashing another rom?
you keep saying its ARHD fault so flash something else and see?
Even i am facing this problem on my XE. mkv high bit rate videos ( more than 10mbps) are having micro stuttering. Hell even 720p hight bitrate videos. I am coming from galaxy S2 and these high bitrate videos used to play buttery smooth. Cant adreno 220 handle 720p videos? this is shame. i can say 1080p mp4 videos are playing fine though.
astarman said:
why dont you try flashing another rom?
you keep saying its ARHD fault so flash something else and see?
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I will try other ROMs when I have enough free time, but someone told me that it is the same problem for all ICS ROM on the Sensation.
nickporwal said:
Even i am facing this problem on my XE. mkv high bit rate videos ( more than 10mbps) are having micro stuttering. Hell even 720p hight bitrate videos. I am coming from galaxy S2 and these high bitrate videos used to play buttery smooth. Cant adreno 220 handle 720p videos? this is shame. i can say 1080p mp4 videos are playing fine though.
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I just want to clarify with you: there is no problem with video playback on Gingerbread, only on ICS that the problem occurs, so it really ROM-dependent, you may want to give ARHD 4.1.13 a try instead of those latest ICS ROMs. Having said that, it is a known fact that Mali-400 MP has much higher performance than Adreno 220, even in terms of graphics and video playback. I think h.264 high profile videos with higher than 10mbps is too much the Sensation, it is a hardware limitation after all. If you want to watch any videos without problem, the ASUS Transformer Prime is the only choice.
Just for curiosity - why bother playing a 1080p file on a device with a (much) lower native res?
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Just for curiosity - why bother playing a 1080p file on a device with a (much) lower native res?
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There are two important reasons:
1. There is no need for conversion. I can use the same files for my laptop and my phone.
2. Quality: It is all about the video quality, you just have to see it to believe, it is just like day and night. You can put 2 youtube videos with SD quality (say 480p) and full HD quality (1080p) on your phones (in this case, the Sensation) and compare them side-by-side. Image quality, colors, details are much better on full HD and the differences are obvious, regardless of your phone's native resolution. In a sense, it can be comparable to your laptop situation: should I buy a Blu-ray movie to watch on my 720p screen laptop? If you have watched Blu-ray movies before, you definitely will know the answer.
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There are two important reasons:
1. There is no need for conversion. I can use the same files for my laptop and my phone.
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Understandable, even though cheap storage and batched rips minimalize the effort.
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2. Quality: It is all about the video quality, you just have to see it to believe, it is just like day and night.[..]
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Yeah, because you compare apples and oranges.
Obviously a downscaled 1080p looks better than an upscaled 480p.
Also, the used color space is not bound to the resolution.
And yes, a BR will look better on your 720p screen. Obviously. DVDs are 576 mpeg-2 encoded ^^
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If you have watched Blu-ray movies before, you definitely will know the answer.
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I have, and i agree. But one should think trough why, and when it makes sense.
No offense, one should do whatever he wants to do.
I (but that may be me) would rather have a 540 movie with high bitrate than a 1080p with a lousy one, just to say "hey, it's HD"
huy_lonewolf said:
Hi guys,
I am currently using Android Revolution HD 6.5.1 XE on my Sensation and I have several major problems:
1. I realize that 1080p mkv videos that my phone can play smoothly on Gingerbread (including Youtube HD 1080p) now become laggy. Even with SD videos (fully HW accelerated), sometimes the playback is choppy as well (I use MX player and Dice player). Can anyone help me confirm whether you have the same problems? I believe ARHD ICS does not have GPU overclocked as on Gingerbread, hence the choppy video playback.
2. On random occasions, I cannot get any sound on any applications, but notification sounds and stock music player are working normally. I can still listen to music through the stock player but cannot get any sound for videos. Everything will return to normal when I restart the phone.
3. Wifi randomly turns on by itself. The last time I check, this problem seems to be unsolved, but I may be wrong.
Any kind souls willing to give me some directions to solve the above problems? ARHD Gingerbread ROM does not have any of the problems above, but I don't want to go back to Gingerbread.
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Did u try stock ICS ROM?