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[Q] Choosing an Android phone w/ keyboard: Desire Z/G2 or Droid 2 or other ??

I have to change my phone and my only req. is a hardware keyboard.
I've been a hardcore, diehard Windows Mobile user for over a decade.
I feel forced to go Android because WP7 smells sort of iPhone-esque clone (no file access, no multitasking, no cut/paste, etc...)
To my surprise, I've found there aren't quite a lot of Android devices with keyboard out there
Fortunately, I've seen a couple of interesting soon-to-be-released phones:
The HTC Desire Z / T-Mobile G2 and the Moto Droid 2 WE (world edition) / Milestone 2
Both will have Froyo 2.2, 5MP cam 720p HD video rec, 3.7" multitouch screen & all the standard shizz
G2 / Desire Z advantages:
- It is HTC
- It has Sense onboard, which I am familiar to
Appart from that, and curiously enough, the Droid 2 / Milestone 2 is better in every other aspect:
- Better screen res (854x480 vs 800x480)
- Faster processor (1000MHz vs 800MHz)
- More internal memory (8GB vs 1.5GB)
- Slightly smaller size (60.5 x 116.3 x 13.7 mm vs 60.4 x 119 x 14.2)
- Lighter weigth (169 gr vs 180 gr)
- Slightly bigger battery (1400 mAh vs 1300 mAh)
- Better flash (dual LED vs single LED)
My Q: Which one to go ?? or is there any other device to consider ??
Any advice / oppinion / suggestion appreciated
Data source:
1- http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirez/specification.html
2- http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/X...rvices/Mobile-Phones/ci.Milestone-2-XW-EN.alt

The claim the g2 benchmarks right with the moto so the processor and gpu might be a wash
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squish099 said:
The claim the g2 benchmarks right with the moto so the processor and gpu might be a wash
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You sure ??
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"Stock Droid 2 running Android 2.2 and crushing any phone on the planet in a Quadrant benchmark. That my friends, is real power."
- Droid Life
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/10/droid-2-benchmark-score-drops-jaws/
How could HTC stand such an insult from Moto ??
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There is benchmark results on androidspin.com
http://androidspin.com/2010/09/09/t-mobile-g2-can-keep-up-with-the-galaxy-s/
Check it out, by the way my hd2 running cm scores 1880 in quadrant.
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squish099 said:
There is benchmark results on androidspin.com
http://androidspin.com/2010/09/09/t-mobile-g2-can-keep-up-with-the-galaxy-s/
Check it out, by the way my hd2 running cm scores 1880 in quadrant.
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Thanks for the link !!
Interesting benchmarks...
And you're right:
I'd go for a WM6.5 HTC HD2 if it only had a keyboard...
Anyway it will not be upgradeable to WP7, and as I stated before, WP7 is expected to be as closed as a religious man's mind
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Android is running great and nand is coming soon. Cotulla posted a bootloader on his web site just waiting for a rom and instructions.
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Other Android-with-keyboard option is the "Motorola Flipout"
Besides the QVGA screen res the device is awesome
(image from Mobile-Geeks)

Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Pro?

Obviously some of you guys haven't read up on Adreno 205 GPU that comes with G2 & its MSM&230. Try reading this article first:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...t-compare-to-other-gpus/page__pid__65#entry65
Adreno 205 is going to perform better than PowerVR SGX530 found in Droid X. It may even get pretty close to PowerVR SGX540 found in Sammy's Himmingbird.
Watch out for this table, I'm sure someone will load their Quadrant result as soon as it becomes available:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/

gtrab said:
...I'd go for a WM6.5 HTC HD2 if it only had a keyboard...
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If only. It would be the almost perfect device. What have smartphone manufacturers got against big screen qwertys anyway!??!?
(yeah I know there are a couple but, only a couple! The Z's screen is too small so I don't count this. Samsungs Galaxy S Pro? The Galaxy is being slated due to bugs)
edit: I have to be honest though, i'm waiting for WinPho 7 as it appears, walled garden aside, that it could integrate very will with Zune and my Xbox subscription. If it launches and has full and complete MS Ofice/Exchange integration then its very possible I will jump straight on to a Dell Lightning - assuming it records 720p.

[GAME] HoneyRun HD Free

Available now for free ( or you can buy adfree ) in the Android Market...
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My new upcoming game for Android 2.2+ Devices running on ARM7 chipsets.
Let me know what you guys think, I'd appreciate the feedback.
Contains ten levels, bonus rounds, global high scores etc etc
atb,
m

r3v3rb said:
My new upcoming game for Android 2.2+ Devices running on ARM7 chipsets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RbRZjw02No
Let me know what you guys think, I'd appreciate the feedback.
Contains ten levels, bonus rounds, global high scores etc etc
atb,
m
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Has a nice look to it .... very impressive
Id give it a download .... and I know my kids would
Does it speed up as levels progress ? or more things to avoid ?

Well, the levels get larger and harder with less time for a start. You get penalties for various things you may or may not do There are switch's to find to open extra areas and lots of other little bits in there!!
I basically trawled my history of playing games and tried to integrate the bits I liked best from the commodore64 through to mario64 !
And funnily enough I developed it as a challenged set by my four and seven year old children who said I couldn't do it !
lmao...
Thanks for the kind words,
regards.

Very nice graphics.

Thanks iynfynity. I hope to have it in the market in two or three weeks. I hope I can rely on xda members support
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Looks like a cute game. How much will the price be, if any?
Edit: Hmm it's only for those devices running ARM7 chipsets. This may be a dumb questiong but how do we know which chipset we have? I have a Motorola Backflip and have no idea what it's chipset is.

xdunlapx said:
Looks like a cute game. How much will the price be, if any?
Edit: Hmm it's only for those devices running ARM7 chipsets. This may be a dumb questiong but how do we know which chipset we have? I have a Motorola Backflip and have no idea what it's chipset is.
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xdunlapx,
Thanks for kind words pricing isn't set yet (my wife and I are in disagreement, she wants me to charge more than I would). Just out of interest what would you be willing to pay.
I may still put a free version out instead if I can get the ad code working...
Chipset wise it needs a galaxy s, desire, desire HD for example
Regards
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it's better if you can make the bee fly faster as the stage gets harder.
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he already does. I didn't show that in the video because I want you guys to find out when you get to play it
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r3v3rb said:
xdunlapx,
Thanks for kind words pricing isn't set yet (my wife and I are in disagreement, she wants me to charge more than I would). Just out of interest what would you be willing to pay.
I may still put a free version out instead if I can get the ad code working...
Chipset wise it needs a galaxy s, desire, desire HD for example
Regards
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Hmm. I think I'd pay up to $2, preferably $1. Aww too bad it won't run on my phone. I would have liked to try it. Is it possible for you to expand the coding to run on other chipsets?

I can get it to run on ARM6 chipsets but as they are lacking a GPU the performance would be horrendous - I'll more than happily make a test build for you once the full game is live on the market - but I seriously doubt you would want to play it on the older chipsets. My wife has a HTC Magic which runs the same chipset and it was... interesting to say the least. Thats why I reverted and stuck with ARM7 builds.

Ah. That sucks. Yeah I've ran a few free games from the market that were just too advanced for my phone to handle. Darn phone.

I'm going to review this on Azrienoch's weekly recap on XDAtv...look for the link in the portal!
<3

looks like a very nice game and i will definitely download it

Just a quick post to say I have uploaded the full version as Ad supported to the market.
Please leave feedback on the market for all to see if you do download and try the game
Thanks
m

Looks a bit like "buck bumble" for n64.
And I liked the game.
I'll give it a try.

Never heard of that game FraDit, I'll have to grab my n64 emu and check it out... I might get some inspiration for more levels
Should I release them one at a time or do them in say packs of five???

Cotton Candy, one of the smallest Arm Computers out there!

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Is that a USB key in your pocket or a dual-core computer? Today, Norwegian company FXI technologies showed off a USB stick-sized portable computer prototype, complete with a dual-core 1.2-GHz Samsung Exynos ARM CPU (same as in the Galaxy S II), 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, HDMI-out and a microSD card slot for memory. Codenamed Cotton Candy because its 21 gram weight is the same as a bag of the confection, the tiny PC enables what its inventor calls “Any Screen Computing,” the ability to turn any TV, laptop, phone, tablet, or set-top box into a dumb terminal for its Android operating system.
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Source: LaptopMag
The Cotton Candy also runs arm compatible versions of Linux, and is said to be compatible with Windows 8 ARM.
Thoughts? I think this would be great for low end computer replacement, or a small gaming system for emulators along side a bluetooth controller and a 32gb memory card. Even a small media center hub for your TV, download Netflix, Hulu, video apps, or whatever streaming and media apps you want and boom, HTPC right there.

Wow Seems brilliant haha

I <3 This idea!!

i want one

Really cool I love this idea
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perfect gift for christmas

Looks good.Thank you my friend.

Brilliant idea I would love to use one of these at my school with it's ten year old computer...

Depending on the price, this could become a developer friendly device.
$1 gets you a reply

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Kailkti said:
Depending on the price, this could become a developer friendly device.
$1 gets you a reply
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It was rumored to be around 200$ if i remember well...i'm getting one as soon as it's released

I think that's pretty awesome. Having the ability to take my computer and plug it into any size tv would be amazing.

Its running gingerbread ... get ICS on that thing and I'd buy one in an instant
Tapatalkin it from my IHO CM7.1'd, ICS Themed Optimus V

kcls said:
Its running gingerbread ... get ICS on that thing and I'd buy one in an instant
Tapatalkin it from my IHO CM7.1'd, ICS Themed Optimus V
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Apparently it's a portable Exynos soc, so it won't be that hard to port ICS to that little bad boy when Samsung pushes the update for the GS2.

I'm thinking win8 with arm support to be a real PC
Max. (From my Galaxy 2)

And who says there is no need for a quad core mobile cpu. Although the chip they are using is nice, and tegra 3 or quad core Samsung soc would be awesome on this device.
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"...You will be mine, oh yes. You will be mine."
GREAT SHARE! Thanks!

Whoa... Samsung is letting other companies use the Exynos SoC?
That's awesome... Samsung must really consider their Exynos SoC to be top of the line... and it is!

Oh, that is very cool.

Intel Medfield based Lava Xolo X900

Lava has launched the Xolo X900 smartphone which also becomes the first Intel powered smartphone in the world for Rs 22,000.
The device is based on the Intel Medfield reference design and features a 1.6GHz Atom processor, a GPU clocked at 400MHz, a 4.03-inch display with a resolution of 1024×600 pixels, a 8-megapixel camera with 1080p shooting capabilities, NFC and HDMI connectivity. Intel claims the camera can take 10 pictures in under a second in full resolution in burst mode setting. Lava says the device can produce five hours of battery life with 3G browsing and can deliver 45 hours of audio and eight hours of talk time.
The device run stock Android 2.3 and will not ship with the latest version of Android Ice Cream Sandwich. For its part Lava says an OTA Ice Cream Sandwich update is in the works.
The device will be available in India on April 23 at Croma or from Xolo.in, and will hit retail chains in early May.
We are feel happy because it launched in india first

And now: why do you post in O1 forum?
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vlt96 said:
And now: why do you post in O1 forum?
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Dude its a general thread that's why i just want to inform to every one...

Development on XOLO?
Is there anyone here developing for this device or no one has even bothered so far?

I did a YouTube battery life test on my Xolo. Set to auto brightness. Watching the 2 hour, 6 minute 2012 Google I/O took exactly 50% of the battery.
Sent from my HTC One S

I guess people would be a little bit skeptical in buying a 22k lava...

Standby time is pretty sweet. 2 days, 20 hours standby, and 2:15 of screen time.
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The only thing is that it stuck due to brand name of mobile if it will launched with Samsung then it will grab the market rapidly !

now it's available for 17k and an ICS update is now being rolled out,wanted to buy it but it's reviews seem that camera us not upto par with say s2 but considering the pric, it's pretty good deal:thumbup:
and guys i have used it on demo at a shop its of pretty good build and there is no lava branding.
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chrissmartin said:
now it's available for 17k and an ICS update is now being rolled out,wanted to buy it but it's reviews seem that camera us not upto par with say s2 but considering the pric, it's pretty good deal:thumbup:
and guys i have used it on demo at a shop its of pretty good build and there is no lava branding.
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Yeah, the camera is so so, and although standby time was great, screen time was low(2-3 hours).
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Looking for new phone

What im looking for is 5 inch or above display sise, 16 million colors, 1GB of ram, Android 4.2 OS, good camera, quad core cpu and should be able to take 2 sims. Any suggestions? Ive found some nice ones on dhgate with 16 million clolors, but only comes with one sim.

saa044 said:
What im looking for is 5 inch or above display sise, 16 million colors, 1GB of ram, Android 4.2 OS, good camera, quad core cpu and should be able to take 2 sims. Any suggestions? Ive found some nice ones on dhgate with 16 million clolors, but only comes with one sim.
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I think you need to take a look at different Chinese smartphones - there're a lot of dual-sim models among them.

Some of China's mobile phone quality is bad.

Augustine02 said:
Some of China's mobile phone quality is bad.
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Not Really, I have the Star N9770 and for the price it is very nice. I am just not happy with the 16000k color screen, but it can play every game on the market, is super fast and with heavy use I get a day and a half on 1 battery, normal use 3 days.

eugenerudenko said:
I think you need to take a look at different Chinese smartphones - there're a lot of dual-sim models among them.
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Yeah for sure, unfortunately I could not find a dual sim with 16 million colors yet, but still looking hard. I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 also, but as I mentioned its sorta pointless for me to have it as I have to carry around 2 phones, so thats the reason why im looking for something that comes close to the S4 with dual sim.

Augustine02 said:
Some of China's mobile phone quality is bad.
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You can say that about any device

eugenerudenko said:
You can say that about any device
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THL phone you heard of it?

Augustine02 said:
THL phone you heard of it?
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Never. But iI'm against generalizing. For example, Oppo or Meizu have great devices.

Try buying hdc galaxy s4
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I would but the htc one it is by far best phone on market right now

it will be Panasonic P51 or Huawei Ascend D2
Google it for more spesification..

thlmobile said:
Oppo or Meizu phone design is very beautiful.
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And apart from design, their best models are really powerful

Nice, thanks to all the replies so far, will look into all the models you guys suggested.

RotiPrata said:
it will be Panasonic P51 or Huawei Ascend D2
Google it for more spesification..
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Both phones soooo sweet, but im in South Africa, so those 2 will cost me a small fortune. For instance I bought a 2011 Macbook pro second hand for about R3000 and each of those will cost me close to R5000 and up, not to expensive considering the Galaxy S4's price, but yeah the wife and daughter is in the front of the line each month. lol.

You can look HERE for info. This is the one I'm using now, Very happy with the performance. The phone is one 3 days old and I've yet to explore it features.

greeny2010 said:
You can look HERE for info. This is the one I'm using now, Very happy with the performance. The phone is one 3 days old and I've yet to explore it features.
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Wow so nice. Fastcardtech reliable?

elvisamy said:
you could consider this mobilphone :star N9589(http://androidexport.com/star-n9589...89-quad-core-android-41-os-wifi-3g-p-408.html).
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Basic Information
Model Star N9589
Band 2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 850/2100MHz
Sim Card Dual SIM Card Dual Standby
Service Provide Unlocked
Style Bar
Color White/ black
Shell Material Plastic
System
OS Android 4.1.1
CPU MTK6589, Cortex A7 quad core; 1.2GHz
ROM 4GB
RAM 1GB
Screen
Display Size 5.7 Inch
Type IPS capacitive touch screen
Resolution 1280*720 pixels
Screen Color 16 Million Colors
Support Format
Ringtones Type Polyphonic/MP3
Audio File Format MP3/WAV/AMR/AWB
Video File Format 3GP/MPEG4
Image File Format JPEG/BMP/GIF/PNG/GIF
E-book Format TXT/CHM/DOC/HTML
FM Radio Yes, earphone needed
Earphone Port 3.5mm
Card Extend Support TF card up to 16GB extended
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Owning the Star N9770 I am tempted to go this route as im happy, androidexpert a reliable company to buy from?

saa044 said:
Wow so nice. Fastcardtech reliable?
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I received my phone in 2 weeks time and good working condition. However, the spec of the phone is not according to what I've placed. The OS is 4.2.1 instead of 4.2.2 (latest) and phone is also not rooted.
After emails, I've a 4.2.2 from their tech-support. Managed to flash this on my phone and also done the rooting process.
For this company, there are good and bad comments on their style of running. I buy from them as I can use paypal for payment. If things turn up bad, I can always ask for a refund.