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IPad Wannabes??? Harumph!!!
So what is the buzz... aside from the XOOM, which one of these is crushworthy??? Which ones will make it to market???
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/01/27/one-year-later-101-ipad-wannabes/?iid=EL
Name Screen (in) OS
Acer iconia tab a500 10 Android
Acer Iconia W7 tablet 10.1 Windows
AOC Breeze 8 Android
Archos 101 10 Android
Asus Eee Slate EP121 12 Windows
Asus Eee Pad Slider 10 Android
Asus Eee Pad MeMo 7 Android
Asus Eee Pad Xformer 10 Android
Augen Doppio 10.1 Android
Augen Espresso 7 Android
Augen Latte 7 Android
Augen Latte Grand 7 Android
Azpen tablet 7 Android
Azpen tablet 7 Windows
BlackBerry PlayBook 7 QNX
Dell Streak 10 10 Android
Dell Streak 7 7 Android
eFun Nextbook Next4 10 Android
eFun Nextbook Next6 7 Android
Enspert Identity Tab E201 7 Android
Enspert Identity Tab E301 7 Android
Fujitsu Windows 7 tablet 7 Windows
Fujitsu Lifebook T901 13.1 Windows
Kno single screen 14 Linux
Kno dual-screen 14×2 Linux
Lenovo LePad 10 Android
Lenovo Windows7 slate 10 Windows
LG Optimus tablet 8.9 Android
LG T-mobile G-Slate 10 Android
Motion CL900 10 Windows
Motorola Xoom 10 Android
MSI WindPad 100A 10 Android
MSI WindPad 100W 10 Windows
MSI Kid Pad 10 Android
NEC Cloud Comm. LT-W 7 Android
Netbook Nav7 7 Windows
Netbook Nav9 8.9 Windows
Netbook Nav10i 10.1 Windows
Notion Ink Adam 10 Android
OpenPeak OpenTablet 10 Android
Panasonic VieraTablet 4 Android
Panasonic VieraTablet 7 Android
Panasonic VieraTablet 10 Android
Razer Switchblade 7 Windows
Rullingnet Vinci 7 Android
Samsung Galaxy Tab WiFi 7 Android
Samsung TX100 10 Windows
toshiba Toshiba Tablet 10 Android
Velocity Micro Cruz tablet 7 Android
Velocity Micro Cruz tablet 8 Android
Velocity Micro Cruz tablet 10 Android
Viewsonic ViewPad 10 10.1 Android/Windows
Viewsonic ViewPad 10s 10.1 Android
Viliv X10 10.2 Android
Vilix X7 7 Android
Vilix X70 7 Windows
Vizio Vizio (Via) Tablet 8 Android
Samsung Galaxy Tab 4G 7 Android
I just pee'd a little
There were even more devices... I didn't include the eReaders... I know Roebeet has hacked his Pandigital Novel and others are working on the Nook Color. The KNO devices are going to run Linux?
I love the GTab... this thing is GRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT. I know the folks on here don't love the screen and are looking for a Tegra II device w/ an IPS screen. I'm more patient and won't look for another device until I see lots of DEV activity here on XDA for them.
It will be neat to see what shakes out and which of these tablets will become competitive in the marketplace.
We are SO gonna get abandoned
It took me a long time to sift through the tablet mess and find one that I thought had the most potential. I chose the G tablet, but how long before the well dries up and we see fewer and fewer updates for this tablet because there are so many more to choose from?
I don't have the funds to purchase a new tablet every 6 months.
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/01/01/the-island-of-misfit-tablets/
HAHA!!! Another link in the article points to the "island of misfit tablets" and apparently our beloved GTABLET is the posterchild!
doctorisin said:
HAHA!!! Another link in the article points to the "island of misfit tablets" and apparently our beloved GTABLET is the posterchild!
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LOL...
iPad wannabe's, so now Apple invented the tablet/slate eh?
He's kind of right though - rushing to market with 2.2 on these things is proof enough that Google never meant it for tablets. They exasperated it by not allowing the market to work, but can you blame them? Many games and apps aren't formatted for anything bigger than 4 to 7 inches so people would I think, have a real problem and complain to Google. They nipped that one in the bud. No native home/back/menu in the ui means it has to be included in a custom ui, lest we have to hunt in the dark and sustain much a frustration, since it's in the custom ui, it doesn't persist in certain apps, which means no matter what you'll have to suffer through this frustration at some point, with some app....maybe your favourite one. That or franken-fy the tablet with ghastly mods to find our non-lit capacitive keys....or stretch pretty far to get at them either way on this size device.
I don't think it would be 3/4 as bad if they just made the keys back-lit though. I honestly cannot understand why it wasn't made that way.
In the end, misfit toy? Maybe. But I sure do love mine
If I was ever entertaining the idea of getting another tablet this year, my first brand choice would be HTC, then Dell or LG. Not really looking forward to anything else. But that's only if my G Tablet falls extremely short of my needs and that's not the case right now.
Neoprimal said:
In the end, misfit toy? Maybe. But I sure do love mine
If I was ever entertaining the idea of getting another tablet this year, my first brand choice would be HTC, then Dell or LG. Not really looking forward to anything else. But that's only if my G Tablet falls extremely short of my needs and that's not the case right now.
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I am comfortable withe the future. My first phone was an MT3G and I and many others fel in love with this first wave Google device. TO THIS DAY devs that loved there time with that device are porting newer roms to work in the confines of its 90 MB of ram. That to me is the best part about xda. Taking what you have and making it better every day as a community. Progression and new tek are great but if you can't ever be happy with what you have now you wont be happy with the next thing either.
Speaking of the future though, if Nvidia and HTC turn the lights down low and get there Google on.... till then I fing love my gtablet.
I love my gTab as well but in the end it's another electronic device and I would not hesitate to buy another tab when this one begins to seem too slow and/or a bunch of really cool new apps and games are released but cannot be installed and/or ran on the gTab. When that day comes I'll be on the lookout for another tablet to drop that meets the spec/price/value/xda-dev-support sweet spot the gTab did when I first bought it.
I still have my old Commodore so it's not like I can't appreciate folks that have deep feelings about a device but I enjoy progress as well.
A lot of action waiting in the wings. But how come they missed the Elocity A10? I expect to receive mine in about 2 weeks, and it has everything my Gtab has, plus a gorgeous IPS screen, with the highest rez in the tablet market.
What other tablets?!?!?!
i dont care what ppl say paying only $400 for the best computer substitute i have ever had is not a problem. i looked at MANY tablets including the iPad (but lets face it the iTunes syncing in 5 hours because it has to rename my media and put it in random folders so that i cant mess with my own media fiasco headache is just not worth it) and i had a few basic requirements:
1. Capacitive touch screen only
2. 10" or bigger or its just a large phone
3. Dockable - preferred but not required
4. long lasting battery
5. rootable with custom roms
6. expandable memory
7. both CPU and GPU - at least 1GHz
8. has a reasonable price
the gTablet met all of those without any problems. and im very happy with it to the point that i only use my main computer now for media sync with my zune and programming.
projectzro said:
and i had a few basic requirements:
1. Capacitive touch screen only
2. 10" or bigger or its just a large phone
3. Dockable - preferred but not required
4. long lasting battery
5. rootable with custom roms
6. expandable memory
7. both CPU and GPU - at least 1GHz
8. has a reasonable price
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Exactly. (Not to say the mt3g is even close in spec, but for its time) This is why I jumped on the mt3g when it first came out. It just recently can't play some newer games but zenonia 2 works great and so do emulators and flash net surfing. I got a 4gb 10 series SD card just to give it a little boost with davlic partition cash. All I'm saying is these are the fun bits of squeezing every last drop out of our gear as possible that I'm waiting for with the gtablet. Being able to run new apps on my gtablet that someone thought they had to run out and spend 800$ to be able to use.
@OP
You're missing the Acer Iconia A100 (the 7" variant). That's the one I have my eyes upon.
Other than that, visit ARMdevices.net for some of the less-recognized tabs that will be coming. Gigabyte, MSI, Shuttle, are all showing tablets at CEBIT. And Samsung/Moto both said they'll have other models on tap this year. So, yes, it will be crowded, which is good news for the consumer. More choices, lower prices.
Lenovo Lepad
OS:
Lenovo os 2.0 (modifiy version of android 2.2)
Display:
10.1 inch back lit LED
capacitance touch screen
multitouch
resolution 1280 × 800
Internal storage:
16GB/32GB SSD
CPU:
Qualcomm Scorpion 8650A ( 1.3GHz )
Graphic card;
Adreno GC205
Ram:
1GB
Front camera:
2 Mega pixels
Battery
27Whr
Standby time upto 5 days
WLAN on, upto 8 Hrs
upto 6 Hrs playback of 720P
Input/output connection
34pin main connection
2 Channel speaker
3.5mm headphone socket
internal mic
SIM/USIM( 3G model only )
Wireless connection
WLAN (802.11 b/g/n)
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
3G model only:
EVDO/Rev.A (800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900,1800, 1900 MHz)
SMS
WLAN (802.11 b/g/n)
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
GPS+AGPS
Support:
Adobe flash 10.2
Optional items:
keyboard base only
U1 base unit with keyboard, convert lepad to a intel i5 netbook running on windows 7
Availability:
Now
non 3G model only
Area:
China
Price 3499 China Yuen, approximate USD 535
doctorisin said:
IPad Wannabes??? Harumph!!!
So what is the buzz... aside from the XOOM, which one of these is crushworthy??? Which ones will make it to market???
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/01/27/one-year-later-101-ipad-wannabes/?iid=EL
Name Screen (in) OS
Acer iconia tab a500 10 Android
Acer Iconia W7 tablet 10.1 Windows
AOC Breeze 8 Android
Archos 101 10 Android
Asus Eee Slate EP121 12 Windows
Asus Eee Pad Slider 10 Android
Asus Eee Pad MeMo 7 Android
Asus Eee Pad Xformer 10 Android
Augen Doppio 10.1 Android
Augen Espresso 7 Android
Augen Latte 7 Android
Augen Latte Grand 7 Android
Azpen tablet 7 Android
Azpen tablet 7 Windows
BlackBerry PlayBook 7 QNX
Dell Streak 10 10 Android
Dell Streak 7 7 Android
eFun Nextbook Next4 10 Android
eFun Nextbook Next6 7 Android
Enspert Identity Tab E201 7 Android
Enspert Identity Tab E301 7 Android
Fujitsu Windows 7 tablet 7 Windows
Fujitsu Lifebook T901 13.1 Windows
Kno single screen 14 Linux
Kno dual-screen 14×2 Linux
Lenovo LePad 10 Android
Lenovo Windows7 slate 10 Windows
LG Optimus tablet 8.9 Android
LG T-mobile G-Slate 10 Android
Motion CL900 10 Windows
Motorola Xoom 10 Android
MSI WindPad 100A 10 Android
MSI WindPad 100W 10 Windows
MSI Kid Pad 10 Android
NEC Cloud Comm. LT-W 7 Android
Netbook Nav7 7 Windows
Netbook Nav9 8.9 Windows
Netbook Nav10i 10.1 Windows
Notion Ink Adam 10 Android
OpenPeak OpenTablet 10 Android
Panasonic VieraTablet 4 Android
Panasonic VieraTablet 7 Android
Panasonic VieraTablet 10 Android
Razer Switchblade 7 Windows
Rullingnet Vinci 7 Android
Samsung Galaxy Tab WiFi 7 Android
Samsung TX100 10 Windows
toshiba Toshiba Tablet 10 Android
Velocity Micro Cruz tablet 7 Android
Velocity Micro Cruz tablet 8 Android
Velocity Micro Cruz tablet 10 Android
Viewsonic ViewPad 10 10.1 Android/Windows
Viewsonic ViewPad 10s 10.1 Android
Viliv X10 10.2 Android
Vilix X7 7 Android
Vilix X70 7 Windows
Vizio Vizio (Via) Tablet 8 Android
Samsung Galaxy Tab 4G 7 Android
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All of them why should they be compared to anything? They are stand alone products each with pluses and minuses of their own including crapple.
Nice, sweet, don't you just love choices? Asus Transformer released this month for $399 without keyboard.
The one that is going to dominate is the Asus Eee Slate ep121. Yeah, it is expensive, but is more like a desktop than any of the others. With windows 8 right around the corner, definitely looking better.
Looking at the new Surface tab and its features, it looks really nice. One thing that I noticed is it has pen capabilities. I have not been able to find much on the specs of this side of the tab though.
This still has me excited however as a photog. Do you think this might be a cheaper - although reduced feature - alternative to a Wacom Tablet? I bet photo editing and even full on image creation could be pretty nice on this thing.
Your thoughts?
I was thinking the same thing.
We kknow it will run Lightroom and I hope it will run Photoshop. I picture this also working as a Live view extender.
It is the Windows 8 Pro version of Surface that supports the pen input. Therefore, it is probably very similar in functionality to an existing Windows 7 tablet running Windows 8 release preview. i.e. Asus EP121, Samsung slate, etc.
The only question is what digitizer and how many levels of pressure input it supports. This is still unknown. However, given that EP121 shipped with 4GB RAM, I would expect that Windows 8 Pro would ship with at least 8GB of RAM.
groaner said:
I was thinking the same thing.
We kknow it will run Lightroom and I hope it will run Photoshop. I picture this also working as a Live view extender.
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A live view extender would be awesome. I really hope it runs PS because I would love to just draw directly on the tab. I was looking at one of those Wacom tabs but those look a bit to large to be ergonomic for me - as awesome as they are.
Hatefly said:
A live view extender would be awesome. I really hope it runs PS because I would love to just draw directly on the tab. I was looking at one of those Wacom tabs but those look a bit to large to be ergonomic for me - as awesome as they are.
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I bought the bamboo for detail photo editing and its fantastic! Only $100.
wrexus said:
It is the Windows 8 Pro version of Surface that supports the pen input. Therefore, it is probably very similar in functionality to an existing Windows 7 tablet running Windows 8 release preview. i.e. Asus EP121, Samsung slate, etc.
The only question is what digitizer and how many levels of pressure input it supports. This is still unknown. However, given that EP121 shipped with 4GB RAM, I would expect that Windows 8 Pro would ship with at least 8GB of RAM.
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I noticed this too. Windows-RT will not do pen input. I wonder if this really is down to ARM not being able to handle it, or whether it is an artificial limitation put up by Microsoft to differentiate the Pro offering? If it is the latter, it would be pathetic.
The galaxy note has pen input and runs arm. Although i dont know the pressure and all that, im no photographer... and surface pro ofcourse will run PS and it supports regular exe programs. And cs6 works fine with windows 8
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A nee high end android device made by HP has just been leaked!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZmVnA4lSh4&feature=plcp
More info on it has been released here:
http://androidcommunity.com/hp-bender-android-smartphone-leaks-in-benchmarks-20120914/
They note a screen resolution of 1366x720 which seems like an odd size. If the soft key/status bar is not considered part of the screen resolution then this could very well be a 1366x768 screen. I found a Android ICS screencap that was 1366x768 and cropped out the status bar which left 1366x720. With Windows 8 coming out soon (its already been released to OEMs), I wonder if HP could be working on a dual boot Android and Windows 8 RT tablet. The minimum screen resolution that Microsoft is allowing for Windows 8 tablets is 1366x768 so using that resolution would make sense.
spunker88 said:
More info on it has been released here:
http://androidcommunity.com/hp-bender-android-smartphone-leaks-in-benchmarks-20120914/
They note a screen resolution of 1366x720 which seems like an odd size. If the soft key/status bar is not considered part of the screen resolution then this could very well be a 1366x768 screen. I found a Android ICS screencap that was 1366x768 and cropped out the status bar which left 1366x720. With Windows 8 coming out soon (its already been released to OEMs), I wonder if HP could be working on a dual boot Android and Windows 8 RT tablet. The minimum screen resolution that Microsoft is allowing for Windows 8 tablets is 1366x768 so using that resolution would make sense.
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I never thought of that. It makes complete sense though. Thanks for sharing and also thanks for the Adobe download!
The more I read up on Windows 8 tablets, it sounds like many OEMs are ditching ARM and going with the new Intel x86 SoC since they will be able to run existing Windows programs and in the time it took Microsoft to make Windows for ARM, Intel has made some decent SoCs.
This may be a phone, but sounds more like a tablet. It could also be a tablet that was designed for Windows 8 RT but is now being re-evaluated as an Android tablet.
Hey Guys,
I am interested in purchasing a tablet soon and I am highly torn between the two tablets SGN8000 and ATIV Smart PC (wait for). My primary use is for studies. I want to use it to take notes, make annotations on text books(super important for me), read eBooks etc. It would also be great if navigation is available on it. I do not have the option to try one for a few days because in India most stores have a no return policy.
I have listed my view of both tablets below.
Can you please give me your thoughts on whether I should wait for ATIV Smart PC or buy the SGN8000 now?
Both have Wacom Pen technology & Samsung S Apps.
Both cost approx the same. ($700-$750) (Lower variants of SGN80XX are not released by Samsung in India. Importing is prohibitively expensive)
SGN8000: (AVAILABLE NOW)
+Google Navigation is great.
+Has call features (helps sometimes!)
+Has received many positive reviews about stability and battery life.
- Most android apps are not tablet optimized.
- No good PDF and note taking software exists.
- No idea if Samsung apps are reliable in opening and handling large textbooks.
- Possibly not many adopters and hence less DEV support on XDA ?
ATIV Smart PC: (RELEASE BY OCT 30)
+Full fledged Windows OS.
+OneNote 2013 (do I even need to say more ?)
+$670 without keyboard.
+8M Camera (comes in handy for OCR).
+Plethora of Windows based educational applications.
- No GPS
- Resolution very bad for a 11.6 Inch screen.
- First product of Smasung Windows 8 Series (We all know how the first ones fare)
Get the note!!! First gen devices really do suck.
EZPDFReaderPro for Android is good for annotation, and have opened a 230mb pdf with fast loading times on my Galaxy Note n70000, which is dual core, so I imagine that would be much smoother on Note 10.1.
Don't think the difference in cameras will cause much weight in an OCR showdown....
Guess I'd look at which software I currently use and how much I'm willing to adapt to/invest in a different system. Although, I use Evernote (which is almost platform agnostic) to sync a lot of PDF's, epubs, and my own writings and drawings across Windows, Android and iOS. You sound smitten with OneNote, but lost without GPS.
The Ativ is neither a tab, nor a PC. I doubt it will ever run smoothly on the specs they announced.
If you require x86 compatibility then get the ATIV otherwise get the Note 10.1.
Szadzik said:
The Ativ is neither a tab, nor a PC. I doubt it will ever run smoothly on the specs they announced.
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The ATIV SmartPC is a Tablet with a keyboard doc. Running the latest Atom processor ect. Im running Windows 8 on my OLD Samsung N220 laptop and it runs pretty well, so I reckon the SmartPC will perform just fine! Although I would say that it would be better going for the SmartPC Pro, due to the i5 chip in it, meaning much more solid performance.
As for the OP
The display resolution isn't that big of a deal. Look at majority of PC screens and laptops. Have you ever had a clarity issue with a 15" Laptop screen with a 720p resolution? I doubt it.
It will be more then enough pixels for you to enjoy the screen.
Also the Note 10.1 atm ships with a similar screen res so its not a big deal. Also as for GPS, Samsung doesn't list all the specs on their ATIV SmartPC range, so don't assume there won't be GPS. There probably will be GPS on it.
PS. The SmartPC Pro has a 1920x1080 resolution Nobody knows prices yet either. They probably won't be release next month, I would reckon they will release by the end of the year, or the beggining of next.
So i purchased a tablet, that im pleased with and i purchased windows 8 pro.
My question is, IF i bought a Surface with Windows RT, could i
install my Windows 8 Pro?
Is there a bios on the surface, to be able to do this?
collinjm01 said:
So i purchased a tablet, that im pleased with and i purchased windows 8 pro.
My question is, IF i bought a Surface with Windows RT, could i
install my Windows 8 Pro?
Is there a bios on the surface, to be able to do this?
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No, Surface RT is an ARM processor. Windows 8 Pro is an x86 architecture operating system and will not run on ARM processors. Wait til early next year for the Windows Surface Pro which will be x86 and support what you are asking but with a higher price tag.