hello every one i just got my new g2x , i previously had htc evo . my question is , is there a big diffrence between simple mobile 4g or tmobiles 4g , i know it works with this phone but im asking because i looked online and didnt find anything , so im suck im in south florida , i have two choices simple mobile or tmobile , please help , thank you in advance
T-Mobile and Simple use the same towers - so you will find zero difference is coverage or internet speeds.
The real differences of course is a) price and b) bandwidth caps. Simple is quite a bit cheaper but your bandwidth datacap is only 1gig before they throttle you down to a whopping 60kps connection speed. T-Mobile you get 5gig although it's my understanding that they now are offering a 10gig plan if yer willing to up off the $...
Just try simple if u don't like it its pre paid just transfer ur number I went from sprint to simple evo to g2x (well alot of phones between) its a big price drop but u get what u pay for
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Simple mobile has less coverage then a standard post paid T-Mobile customer does. Its basically the pre paid map.
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okay thank you every one for the help, now i just decided to just go with the tmobile prepaid , unlimited 70 amonth i know about the cap effin liers haha , does the throttle mod really work , did anyone used it yet
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T-Mobile and Simple use the same towers - so you will find zero difference is coverage or internet speeds.
The real differences of course is a) price and b) bandwidth caps. Simple is quite a bit cheaper but your bandwidth datacap is only 1gig before they throttle you down to a whopping 60kps connection speed. T-Mobile you get 5gig although it's my understanding that they now are offering a 10gig plan if yer willing to up off the $...
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that 1gig cap is a rumor and has been going on for a while and i dont understand why ppl still say it.. ive used at least 1500 mb a month for 8 months and have only been capped twice, both times at 2gbs
SO PLEASE EVERYONE STOP GIVING FALSE INFO IF U HAVE NO IDEA WHAT U ARE TALKING ABOUT
edit: for those who still doubt.. hard to believe i could get to 2gb if i was capped at 1gb..
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that 1gig cap is a rumor and has been going on for a while and i dont understand why ppl still say it.. ive used at least 1500 mb a month for 8 months and have only been capped twice, both times at 2gbs
SO PLEASE EVERYONE STOP GIVING FALSE INFO IF U HAVE NO IDEA WHAT U ARE TALKING ABOUT
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http://www.prepaidreviews.com/blog/mvno/simple-mobile-limits-unlimited-data-plan-36148/
http://consumerist.com/2010/07/simple-mobile-unlimited-data-plan-is-of-course-secretly-limited.html
Plus its on their own damn website too. They dont turn it off - they throttle it so of course you can have more than 1gig of usage.
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http://www.prepaidreviews.com/blog/mvno/simple-mobile-limits-unlimited-data-plan-36148/
http://consumerist.com/2010/07/simple-mobile-unlimited-data-plan-is-of-course-secretly-limited.html
Plus its on their own damn website too. They dont turn it off - they throttle it so of course you can have more than 1gig of usage.
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so u think i would actually allow myself to reach another gb on capped speed??
what im saying is aside from everything u read on the internet, they throttle it at 2gb, not 1..
and its not on their website, only thing they say is we have the right to blah blah blah if we feel u are using and excessive amount of data blah blah blah..
edit: that first link is from june 2010 and the second is from jan 2011 with outdated info saying basically the same as the first one...
crazy how im sitting here telling u i use 1500mb regularly at 4g speed and the 2 times i have been throttled, is when i reach 2gb.. even showed a pic after being throttled 3 days ago.. smh
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i dont have a problem with battery life but like the girl said true LTE phone . let me know when you exceed 4mbps down and 300kbps up
I got a 28.94 down, 35.48 up speed test when I was in Manhattan 2 days ago
I actually would have kept the atrix if i could even get 3g speeds.
I never broke 1.5 MB down...
And I live in Phoenix AZ!!
Oh , it also sucks for coverage - I would drive 10 miles out of city limits and go from 4 bars to NOTHING.
Verizon has a fantastic network - but the Atrix is the best phone i have ever had...
I returned the atrix for the thunderbolt..
I'm a long time verizon customer.. the AT&T network was too hit or miss, the phone had bugs.
it was faster, but I don't have verizon 4g coverage here yet in milwaukee. I'm sure that'll change and I can't wait
battery life, the atrix was better, but it had a 1900mah battery.. the tbolt has 1400 and a much larger screen.. i'm scared to see how it gets when I start beating on 4g... I can barely keep it to sustain a change while on the charger using mobile hot-spot.
The consumer is the only one that loses here
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I got a 28.94 down, 35.48 up speed test when I was in Manhattan 2 days ago
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Upload being faster than Download should cue you into something wrong with that picture.
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Upload being faster than Download should cue you into something wrong with that picture.
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Nah - the upload speed is probably wrong due to the TB's huge upload buffer. It's a known issue that upload speeds aren't going to be correct using the SpeedTest app.
But no buffer in the world can improve download speeds, and I more care about that.
the download speed is borked as well, reads too low.
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i dont have a problem with battery life but like the girl said true LTE phone . let me know when you exceed 4mbps down and 300kbps up
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4Mb/s? You can get that with a standard flip phone. Now 4MB/s is a different story.
Either way, the atrix isnt really 4g, and it has a locked bootloader. Good luck, the tbolt also has more dev support and its only been out for one week today. How bout that? Those are the things that really matter. They are both great phones.
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gsxr1kmatt said:
I don't have verizon 4g coverage here yet in milwaukee.
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I thought I read that someone was getting 4g in Milwaukee.
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Either way, the atrix isnt really 4g
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LOL...Really? Thats news to me.
.... double checks that the 4g radio is on...
nope, not yet.
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4Mb/s? You can get that with a standard flip phone. Now 4MB/s is a different story.
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no i think i am pretty right there mbps look at your phone speedtest app but they are the same correct me if i'm wrong
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LOL...Really? Thats news to me.
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/118464484.html
DOH.. I was just down by the airport last night!!!!
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http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/118464484.html
DOH.. I was just down by the airport last night!!!!
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Either way, the atrix isnt really 4g, and it has a locked bootloader. Good luck, the tbolt also has more dev support and its only been out for one week today. How bout that? Those are the things that really matter. They are both great phones.
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so then y do they say its 4g?
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so then y do they say its 4g?
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Im coming up on 24gb of data usage on my thunderbolt and still have 15 days left on this billing cycle. Has anybody here passed this amount of usage and has verizon tried to limit the data after too much usage.
thanks
The fine print says if you are in the top 5% in data usage they will throttle. But I asked sales rep and manager at my Verizon store and they said unlimited means unlimited to them.
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$30, I hope unlimited data from Verizon meant unlimited data, no gab after certain amount of usage. I am at about 20GB "finger cross"
I'm lucky to push 5gb. What am I doing wrong?
I got the Thunderbolt on March 28th. My first billing cycle ran from that 28th to April 6th. That time, I hit around 30gb. So far from April 7th to now, the 29th, I've hit 77.974gb with my bill cycle May 6th. So far, no throttling, nothing like that. When I noticed my internet went out during the big, nationwide LTE crash two days ago, I thought at first VZW cut me off for high usage. I was relieved to go onto this forum and find I wasn't the only one.
I don't want to brag about it, but since I haven't seen any negative actions so far, you should be good to go. I don't know if I get preferential treatment due to being a VZW employee though...
And for those who are curious, all that usage is from "Internet Connection Mode", USB tethering to my PC, downloading PC games from Steam and some torrents.
72GB......*@%$-#&#*!!!! Lol. Highest I've gone is 16GB I think. U tethering like a mad man?
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72GB......*@%$-#&#*!!!! Lol. Highest I've gone is 16GB I think. U tethering like a mad man?
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I finally found the thing I can get into the Guinness Book of World Records.
And I forgot from my previous post, I also used the wireless tether to download content to my newly bought PS3 as well in addition to torrents and PC games from Steam.
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I finally found the thing I can get into the Guinness Book of World Records.
And I forgot from my previous post, I also used the wireless tether to download content to my newly bought PS3 as well in addition to torrents and PC games from Steam.
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When I tether my 4G connection and download torrents I only get about 1 kbps down! Do you change your settings in your torrent program for tethering?
Wow. 72GB?
I noticed that the first 7 days of use, my usage shot up to about 4gigs. Then it seems to have slowed to about 5.5gigs total in the next 14 days, and now i stand at 5.7gigs. Got 1 more week left on bill cycle.
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When I tether my 4G connection and download torrents I only get about 1 kbps down! Do you change your settings in your torrent program for tethering?
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I haven't made any modifications at all. I simply connect my Thunderbolt to my PC, it asks me what option I wish to choose, I choose "Internet Connection Mode", wait a few seconds and I am connected. The fastest speeds I have gotten down so far are 2MB/s, the fastest upload around 500KB/s.
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I haven't made any modifications at all. I simply connect my Thunderbolt to my PC, it asks me what option I wish to choose, I choose "Internet Connection Mode", wait a few seconds and I am connected. The fastest speeds I have gotten down so far are 2MB/s, the fastest upload around 500KB/s.
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Is the 'internet connection mode' like an official tethering option that verizon can know about? me wants to know if I can be charged for it.
Thanks a lot geniuses for the throttleing and tiered structure to come soon.
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Thanks a lot geniuses for the throttleing and tiered structure to come soon.
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+1 Dicks! Lol
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unlimited means unlimited!
They will throttle you're data speeds if the usage continues month after month.
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unlimited means unlimited!
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But how long will unlimited be unlimited it 3 million ppl are using 70 gb a month?
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vzw didn't throttle or anything which kind of surprised me. not going to do it every month as this was only a test. my normal monthly usage is between 5-10gb. my home cable on other hand usually goes over 300gb a month
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vzw didn't throttle or anything which kind of surprised me. not going to do it every month as this was only a test. my normal monthly usage is between 5-10gb. my home cable on other hand usually goes over 300gb a month
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Wow that's a lot of internet porn!! Jk jk haha but Damn!
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But how long will unlimited be unlimited it 3 million ppl are using 70 gb a month?
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Unlimited will be unlimited until you sign a new contract. End of story. If they try to change your contract on you, correct me if I'm wrong, that relieves you of any ETF they can try to hit you with. Just my .02.
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If they going to limit the data then they need to remove the word unlimited. Whether you are the top 5% of their users or not. Not many people read the fine prints. When I login and see a big word stating unlimited. So I beleive I have unlimited.
I'll start why not Here's a good amount of tests for my area.
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Very nice numbers indeed. I never get above 5mb.
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We had some past threads about this... but they aren't active recently so I'll jump on this one. Plus T-Mobile did those changes here in the States recently. I do see a slight difference in my speed since they "doubled" the speeds in many major cities. Only problem... it's now a little slower for me. Will keep testing.
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6-7 Mbps average
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4-5 Mbps average
7 Mbps max seen
Lame! Maybe my old 2g SIM card is finally coming into play? I'm over my 5 Gb as is my norm so maybe I'm being throttled to HSDPA (3.5 g) lol
Yeah it's possible your Sim card is playing a role in that. May want to swap it out!
I'm in north side of Chicago, max speed seems to be around 5-6Mbps at my office, although I'm getting all bars. Will do some speedtest when I go to the Starbucks right next to the t-mobile store (I suspects they would have wifi-to-cell access point there to max out the speed)!
I'm in Queens,New York and speeds are lame where i live.I never reached 3Mbps. my average speed is around 1-2.5Mbps
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I'm in Queens,New York and speeds are lame where i live.I never reached 3Mbps. my average speed is around 1-2.5Mbps
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Has to be better than Sprint... have you tried outside of your home area?
Las Vegas. SW
Got this near Dallas:
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That's pretty incredible. This is the best I got.
Edit: From Queens, NY
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Where!? I'm in Irving and I've 3.65 down with .62 up once (horrible up). My HD2 got better speeds than this..
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Very nice, I'm a little north in Lewisville, fastest I have seen so far is 9.5 or so down and 2.5 or so up.
I average 3 - 5 down and 1-2.5 up. Ive only run a few tests at work but dont know the results off the top of my head.
does the sim card actuall impact 4g speed?
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i am using the SIM card I had last year in my HD2. I will search on google, but before i do, are you saying officially that the SIM card impacts the speed of my connections? thanks.
My best is 4162kbps. The same place my vibrant gets 5800 +. The sensation is clearly slower then the old vibrant 3G in my case. On all accounts all the time.
My best download speed:6.99Mbps,Upload:4.41Mbps.
Location:Yorba Linda(T-Mobile hasn't increase the speed here!)
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My best download speed:6.99Mbps,Upload:4.41Mbps.
Location:Yorba Linda(T-Mobile hasn't increase the speed here!)
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That's the best upload speeds I've seen. Pretty damn good.
I have been constantly performing tests, and have definitely been getting the attached snap shot. Location is obviously important, so thankfully I almost have blanket coverage.
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That's the best upload speeds I've seen. Pretty damn good.
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May be by chance.Because my upload speed is usually around 1Mbps~3Mbps,and my download speed is usually around 2Mbps~6Mbps
In a G2x. First one is a definitive error as for the G2x has a 14.4 Mbps cap.
I got mine near Frisco / Plano. Can't wait for custom roms to apply build.prop hacks to make it faster!
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Has to be better than Sprint... have you tried outside of your home area?
Las Vegas. SW
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Well yeah,but most places i go to (work,home,GF)are not that great in terms of 4G coverage.Still better than sprint in most cases though.
If i was to buy a used g2x off craigslist today without a data plan would it be worth it?
If you're in a position where you have a wifi connection pretty much 24/7 then maybe.
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very pointless nowadays to have a smart phone without a data plan.....
if you cant afford a data plan, then IMO you shouldnt have a smartphone.....
stick to one of these....
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very pointless nowadays to have a smart phone without a data plan.....
if you cant afford a data plan, then IMO you shouldnt have a smartphone.....
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+1
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Ok posters above... that was a dumb post because you have no idea what kind of network this guy is around all the time. Why pay 20 or 25 bucks for data when you dont need it? I had my G1, Mytouch, Nexus One and Vibrant without a data plan because I had wifi at work, home and pretty much anywhere else I go. It was seriously pointless to pay for two internet services. Not that I could not afford it but I dumb to pay for double the internet when I can only use it one place at a time. Anyways, to anser your question OP... Yes you can. Just get a voice plan. I recently decided to get the full data package just because my new position at my job requires me to be on the road a lot and I decided it was worth it then. Otherwise Id still probably have a 40 dollar phone bill
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very pointless nowadays to have a smart phone without a data plan.....
if you cant afford a data plan, then IMO you shouldnt have a smartphone.....
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Hey, that was the greatest phone ever when I was in high school
Totally worth it!
I've had all the phones in my signature without a data plan.
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If i was to buy a used g2x off craigslist today without a data plan would it be worth it?
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The question is, do YOU think it's worth it?
So i just switched to t mobile from verizon and there i was tethering something like 60gb a month with no repercussions. So when i moved i got the unlimited everything and i know that doesnt count for tethering. so i decided to see what would happen when i tried.
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This is from about 4 hours of testing.
Question is, where do i see tethering usage? or have i gotten passed it with running a custom rom? Or are they going to nab me after a month or so?
Thanks guys!!!
grab the tmobile my account app..
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grab the tmobile my account app..
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thanks man. got it and it shows that i have been using the tethering. Just what i wanted to know :good:
I think I've heard of other carriers looking into it if they notice an unusual amount of data. At which point they would charge you for the data you used or terminate your contact. However T-Mobile doesn't have contracts anymore, so. . . Not sure.
I think they mess with that though. I have about 1GB used every month for hotspot. Even though I have never used it. Not even once. Called a rep and they were just like "Uh yeah that's uhhhhhhh really weird".
I have 500mb of tethering but I used about 2.5GB just tethering last month (about 3.5gb total) and haven't gotten billed anything extra.
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I have 500mb of tethering but I used about 2.5GB just tethering last month (about 3.5gb total) and haven't gotten billed anything extra.
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I've never heard of anyone on TMO getting billed for tethering after the fact (the onus is still on them to stop it at their own limit), but they sure throw the upsell page in a hurry. Also, I wouldn't be too shocked if they begin killing accounts that deliberately abuse their terms of service. (That is to say, tether-cheat at your own risk, no whiners when you get busted).
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I've never heard of anyone on TMO getting billed for tethering after the fact (the onus is still on them to stop it at their own limit), but they sure throw the upsell page in a hurry. Also, I wouldn't be too shocked if they begin killing accounts that deliberately abuse their terms of service. (That is to say, tether-cheat at your own risk, no whiners when you get busted).
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Sorry, thats what I meant. I've never seen that screen that people are talking about. Probably because it's a Nexus and all the previous phones I've had all had international roms on them.
They definitely won't terminate accounts without notifying people. As long as people don't use like 100GB a month, I don't think they really care too much.
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Sorry, thats what I meant. I've never seen that screen that people are talking about. Probably because it's a Nexus and all the previous phones I've had all had international roms on them.
They definitely won't terminate accounts without notifying people. As long as people don't use like 100GB a month, I don't think they really care too much.
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We're VERY fortunate TMO is in a growth mode! It can't last forever, so enjoy it while you can.
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We're VERY fortunate TMO is in a growth mode! It can't last forever, so enjoy it while you can.
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Well the good thing is that if they start to get worse, I can just leave and not have to pay anything. Tmobile isn't the cheapest carrier around, so if they become like ATT or verizon, it's as simple as paying the final bill and canceling the service.
thanks guys. gonna keep an eye on it and try some things
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Well the good thing is that if they start to get worse, I can just leave and not have to pay anything. Tmobile isn't the cheapest carrier around, so if they become like ATT or verizon, it's as simple as paying the final bill and canceling the service.
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When it comes to tethering over the limit, who outdoes TMO? They're the best value (not necessarily cheapest) for speed, customer service, and policies...it may sound cliche, but they ARE shaking things up. More power to'em, I say.
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When it comes to tethering over the limit, who outdoes TMO? They're the best value (not necessarily cheapest) for speed, customer service, and policies...it may sound cliche, but they ARE shaking things up. More power to'em, I say.
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Absolutely. They've been really good so far, I was just saying if they turn into one of those "other" carriers, there's really no reason to stay. Hopefully they keep doing things that other carriers were too scared to do. :good:
Damn they hit me with hotspot upsell page after using 46gb in a week and a half that sucks! Anybody have a solution around besides just adding a user agent switcher?
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well i think i got tethering figured out
there are two My Team mobile accounts in the play store
one is a dude holding a phone from Nov 12
the other is a pink key ring... updated yesterday...
i dunno, but i uninstalled the second one since it asks for all kinds of data regarding my phone, i dont want to give them data or facts regarding my device. even after i had the settings not collect it, it knew even the device was rooted.
im keeping the older one, it doesnt collect stuff.. even tho it doesnt show the 100mb tethering i have now
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Whoa. Good job.