Well I want to pre-order my Sensation now (20th of June first stock on UK :O)
but something is bothering me.. I was in the UK 2 weeks ago I think (MUN vs Barca match :O) and I tried the Sensation on Vodafone and the Galaxy S II on somewhere else.
I didn't really notice any major difference, except the little uhm... "un-completely-smoothness" in both of them.. but that's usual if I understood correctly. (I mean not like the iPhone or something like that)
Still, the Sensation and in general any HTC device attracted me because of several reasons- one was the design of the system. (The lock screen with the ring, the bottom bar with the Phone and Menu buttons and all of this) and I wanted to ask:
If CM7 will come to the Sensation (as I saw in one thread here), will I be able to use CM7 on the Sensation but change the design to HTCs' original design? (As I mentioned above)
Thanks! and sorry for the length of this ><
When the bootloader of the device is finally unlocked, we will most probably get CM7 support. CM7 is an optimized stock gingerbread rom and you will get the standard stock android interface and design. You can't have Sense functions on CM7, such as the lockscreen and the widgets because it's a different rom (operating system, actually). So, no you won't be able to have the Sense interface on CM7. And there's no point in doing so - if you like Sense, just keep HTC's stock rom .
giorgisp said:
When the bootloader of the device is finally unlocked, we will most probably get CM7 support. CM7 is an optimized stock gingerbread rom and you will get the standard stock android interface and design. You can't have Sense functions on CM7, such as the lockscreen and the widgets because it's a different rom (operating system, actually). So, no you won't be able to have the Sense interface on CM7. And there's no point in doing so - if you like Sense, just keep HTC's stock rom .
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Oh thanks... thought there might be a chance
I think I won't keep HTC's stock rom if the difference will be big eh ><.
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I currently own a HTC Desire S running stock rom. S-off using alpharev x beta and rooted using gingerbreak 1.2
Is there any way to get the sense 3.0 lockscreen on my phone. Including all the features or at least most of it. Was thinking that the only way might be to flash a rom onto my phone.
Dude, there's a thread for this not far below this one!
Pardon me being picky, saw that one but was looking for something more similar to the htc sensation one with the icons as well as the ring.
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Pardon me being picky, saw that one but was looking for something more similar to the htc sensation one with the icons as well as the ring.
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Fair play, then yeah, a ROM will be needed.
I use the virtious unity rom and it has most of the sense 3.0 present including the ring lockscreen complete with options to display photos,weather or clock etc.Also ring lockscreen present n the saga rom i used 5.1 i think and present in sergio 76 coredroid rom.I also think maryland cookie released the lockscreen seperately but Im not sure if it was for 2.1 or 3.0 roms.
I find the sense 2.1 + 3 ROMs a little laggy at the mo. I guess some more optimization will come with later releases.
Honestly, I can't wait for ice cream. If this phone doesn't get it, ill sell it. I want my UI hardware accelerated. It's all Android needs to make it really nice.
try AGILE LOCK,i have it on my desire s,on my desire,on my daughters hd2(pyramid rom)...............nearest you'll get to the sensation lock WITHOUT THE NEED OF A NEW ROM. all the rooting and flashing i've done over 3 years,my desire s is the ONLY PHONE that im keeping the origional stock rom lol,would be nice to have the pyramid rom though lol,would be tempted then lol
hope this helps
Yes, I am a complete noob. With a new HTC Sensation my very first contact with Android, a couple of days ago. And bloodshot eyes from hours and hours and hours and hours of reading through endless conversations about custom ROMS and S-OFF flags and temporary roots and so on, all of which has taught me that I can permanently root my phone with "Revolutionary" if I want to, but which still hasn't told me whether this would achieve anything beyond voiding my warranty.
All I want to do is get rid of HTC's "Sense". I just want plain, ordinary, vanilla Android on my phone. In my ignorance I thought this would be easy once the phone was rooted; but the more I've read about the procedures involved in rooting this thing, the more concerned I've become that I can't see any evidence of a follow-up procedure for wiping HTC's modifications and installing a "clean" Android. This "CyanogenMod" ROM so many of you seem to be waiting for doesn't look like stock Android to me: it looks like another bunch of modifications to replace HTC's. Am I missing something here? Is vanilla Android achievable via root simply by uninstalling "Sense"? From what I've read it looks more like I need to install Gingerbread from scratch, but if this is so, where is it?!
I loathe unnecessary bloatware (and run Slackware largely for that reason), but at least HTC's "Sense" seems polished and relatively bug-free. I don't particularly like it, but it works. If rooting my phone is only going to enable me to replace it with someone else's buggier and less polished bloatware, I'm not sure that it's worth it. After all these hours I think I've finally compiled a list of steps that will, if I follow them, leave me with a rooted HTC Sensation. Is there, somewhere, a guide to installing plain vanilla Android once this has been done? If not, is there any good reason why I shouldn't just learn to love "Sense" and keep my warranty intact?
Cyanogen mod is basically stock android with more features such as the cpu over clocking, different lock screen styles, adw launcher, etc. If you want the aosp launcher then you can download go launcher and turn on the 3d app drawer or get the gb luancher. If your looking for a bone stock gingerbread rom I don't know if that exists outside of the nexus forums, but Cyanogen is better then bone stock aosp anyways.
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CM7 is close to AOSP but your right it has some added features, NOTHING like sense though basically its AOSP with a few added features like theme chooser lock screen button music control (when your phone is screen off with music playing you can change the track by holding volume up, pause with camera button) CM7 is basically AOSP a side from those types of mods. As of right now there is no offical "vinilla" android roms for the sensation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849
This rom has a "sense-less" version but it is still a "sense" ROM and kernal just with the sense bloat ripped out and replaced with Gingerbread 3D launcher.
Basically you have to be patient CM7 is coming shortly and I am sure once it lands people will strip it of the CM7 goodies and make a vinilla ROM out of it. As for rooting its what gives you the ability to flash different ROMS and remove sense and bloat ect. So you must root to do anything you want to do. The rooting procedure for the Sensation is MUCH easier then root for the G2/MyTouch 4G aside from entering a Beta key and flashing SU after Revolutionary does its deal its basically a one click precuder. Where as with the MyTouch it was a lot of code entering in Terminal and stuff it sucked!
The long short of it is ROOT, WAIT, FLASH (AOSP OR CM7) ENJOY! Waiting though is the ulimate KEY!
If you can't wait for a little while, download ADW launcher from the market. It will give you a stock feel over Sense. It won't replace it, but it will make you feel better for the time being.
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Hi guys,
going to get a HTC Sensation today, played with it in a store and its basic functions appeal to me more than Galaxy S2.
Ok the S2 had that extra bit of "snappiness" about, the Sensation felt heavier both in physical weight and response
Anyway, couple of questions:
- can i remove any of the 7 homescreens?
- any guaranteed way to increase the snappiness/response on stock ROM?
- can i remove any apps i don't need (used system app remover on my old SGS1)?
THanks!
1. No. You can use a different launcher
2. Yes, custom ROMs and/or overclock
3. Yes, but you need root
¤Violets are red,
Roses are blue,
Wait, what?¤
In short: yes to all of the above.
You would mainly resort to install custom ROMs.
The first ROM I tried was Senseless 2.5 and the phone visibly flies. YMMV. Feel free to browse around!
Even if you don't want custom ROMs, you can still just root and remove the apps yourself (read a bit before removing apps that may break Sense)
edit: Sorry, misread the first question. As idavid_ said, to edit the homescreens just use a different launcher. If you want it to be fast and customizable, try ADW.Launcher
thanks for the replies!
senseless certainly seems quick probably because it doesn't have....sense?
but sense 3.0 is one of the main reasons i got the HTC and i would like to keep and use it...i'm not a fan of quadrant benchmarks and dont really care about numbers but if i can make the phone a bit quicker what ROM do you recommend?
i usually look first at the ROMs that have most replies/views and that seems to be Revolution HD...which theoretically means it has the largest user base right?
last but not least i'm waiting for it to charge above 35% so i can install the 2.3.4 OTA update...maybe that's a bit snappier than 2.3.3 it came with...
oh couple of things:
-can i just update weather without having to use location services all the time?
-the HTC unlock site seems to list the Sensation as supported for bootloader unlock...should i do it? would this make rooting & installing custom ROMs easier?
- does any of the custom ROMs include the new "enhanced" camera apk&profiles that allow up to 40mbps bitrates?
zerozoneice said:
thanks for the replies!
senseless certainly seems quick probably because it doesn't have....sense?
but sense 3.0 is one of the main reasons i got the HTC and i would like to keep and use it...i'm not a fan of quadrant benchmarks and dont really care about numbers but if i can make the phone a bit quicker what ROM do you recommend?
i usually look first at the ROMs that have most replies/views and that seems to be Revolution HD...which theoretically means it has the largest user base right?
last but not least i'm waiting for it to charge above 35% so i can install the 2.3.4 OTA update...maybe that's a bit snappier than 2.3.3 it came with...
oh couple of things:
-can i just update weather without having to use location services all the time?
-the HTC unlock site seems to list the Sensation as supported for bootloader unlock...should i do it? would this make rooting & installing custom ROMs easier?
- does any of the custom ROMs include the new "enhanced" camera apk&profiles that allow up to 40mbps bitrates?
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2.3.4 update is definitely faster than 2.3.3, so do it.
And answers:
1. Unless your city is on the list, then no
2. You have to unlock the bootloader if you want custom ROM. However, do it with Revolutionary (revolutionary.io). That way HTC won't know that you unlocked it and won't void warranty because you can reverse it (read the sticky in development)
3. Not sure about that, but you can get it in any ROM if you install/flash it
¤Violets are red,
Roses are blue,
Wait, what?
I have no idea what I'm saying,
But you lost the game¤
thanks man, will try more tomorrow!
got the 2.3.4 OTA, it feels a bit faster already...
also screenshot function now seems to work, it didn't before in 2.3.3
one thing i noticed after using it for couple of hours: it will really warm my pockets in winter!!!!
let's see how the battery is doing after a couple of charges....by the way, is a factory reset needed after installing 2.3.4 OTA?
SO I rooted my wifes Inspire 4g like 4 months ago and didn't do much of anything with it after the fact. No new kernel, no rom cooks or such. All stock other than a few choice root access apps.
She got a notification that their is a new update ( assuming the sense update and such) but she went to accept the update it hung in a godless limbo until she told me what happened and I did a battery pull.
SO the question is, why is this?
Is their a stock newest firmware/rom for the inspire with built in root and maybe an overclocked kernel that I can put on the phone for her. She wants her phone to run like it did out of the box with the HTC widgets but with all the updates.
Can anyone gimme some info........
You don't want to do an over the air update since your phone is not stock. It will break your root and may cause other problems. Turn off software check in menu/about phone, or decline any OTA updates. There are plenty of roms to choose from in the development section. You just need to decide which one you like.
If you're looking for a rom that is close to stock (since you stated your wife wants it to run like it did out of the box), I'll assume she doesn't want sense. Cleardroid was a great rom when I used it, but I like the sense components and have switched to ARHD (see signature). You'll have to check and see if Cleardroid allows for OC/UV and all that stuff.
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If you're looking for a rom that is close to stock (since you stated your wife wants it to run like it did out of the box), I'll assume she doesn't want sense. Cleardroid was a great rom when I used it, but I like the sense components and have switched to ARHD (see signature). You'll have to check and see if Cleardroid allows for OC/UV and all that stuff.
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You're confusing me. ClearDroid has Sense. It is Sense 2.1, but it is Sense. I do believe you were talking about Sense 3.0 or 3.5 (I have not used Android Revolution even though it was the first ROM I downloaded). But I agree that ClearDroid is a great ROM.
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MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
If you're looking for a rom that is close to stock (since you stated your wife wants it to run like it did out of the box), I'll assume she doesn't want sense. Cleardroid was a great rom when I used it, but I like the sense components and have switched to ARHD (see signature). You'll have to check and see if Cleardroid allows for OC/UV and all that stuff.
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Cleardoid is the only Rom left, that I know of, that is still supported and uses the latest htc inspire update as a base(2.47.502.7). And yes it does and always has had sense, just like stock inspire. The only difference in the newer sense roms is the new lock screen and widgets are a little revamped. Other than that it looks just like stock inspire sense. The latest gingerbread update from htc comes with an annoying bug where contacts don't show in your messaging app, just the numbers. You have to tap the number and it takes you to the contact where you have to select a default widget action and that contacts name will show up for that single contact. Once you restart you phone though you have to start back over. I am not sure if cleard has fixed this on the cleardroid Rom. The inspire will probably never be updated past sense 2.1 by htc but there are plenty of custom roms with 3.0 and 3.5. Also the latest gingerbread version from htc is 2.3.3 where customs are at 2.3.4 - 2.3.7.
Honestly though if your wife wants it to run like out of the box I would just install cleardroids latest stable froyo build. The HTC gingerbread update brings better battery life and a quick notifications tab and maybe some other less interesting options, but it has many bugs that I have encountered that I do not like.
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Cleardoid is the only Rom left, that I know of, that is still supported and uses the latest htc inspire update as a base(2.47.502.7). And yes it does and always has had sense, just like stock inspire. The only difference in the newer sense roms is the new lock screen and widgets are a little revamped. Other than that it looks just like stock inspire sense. The latest gingerbread update from htc comes with an annoying bug where contacts don't show in your messaging app, just the numbers. You have to tap the number and it takes you to the contact where you have to select a default widget action and that contacts name will show up for that single contact. Once you restart you phone though you have to start back over. I am not sure if cleard has fixed this on the cleardroid Rom. The inspire will probably never be updated past sense 2.1 by htc but there are plenty of custom roms with 3.0 and 3.5. Also the latest gingerbread version from htc is 2.3.3 where customs are at 2.3.4 - 2.3.7.
Honestly though if your wife wants it to run like out of the box I would just install cleardroids latest stable froyo build. The HTC gingerbread update brings better battery life and a quick notifications tab and maybe some other less interesting options, but it has many bugs that I have encountered that I do not like.
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RumRunner 3 uses the same base.....jus sayin
Ah yes, my apologies, rumrunner version 3 is 2.47.502.7 as well.
I suppose there are probably some other devs that have used this base in older versions, but I think they have all moved on to newer bases by now.
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You're confusing me. ClearDroid has Sense. It is Sense 2.1, but it is Sense. I do believe you were talking about Sense 3.0 or 3.5 (I have not used Android Revolution even though it was the first ROM I downloaded). But I agree that ClearDroid is a great ROM.
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Ahh my apologies, I tend to not be very clear sometimes..it seems however that everyone beat me to it so like everyone has said..Cleardroid seems to be the best option if you want it to look/run just like it was out of the box. I've used Cleardroid and it was a nice rom, I didn't have any issues but I really like the sense 3 components for some reason so my taste drifts towards those roms...
Thanks all of you. I decided on ARHD for her phone and she is digging it.
Peace
I'm curious to know why people actually spend the time on their phones and risk bricking and voiding the warranty on their phone to install the latest stable or beta ROM for their device. Is it because the stock ROM doesn't let you do your daily tasks? Or is it slow? Or is it buggy in some way?
For example, I have a HTC Desire. The reason why I installed custom roms was that I bought it second-hand with Oxygen (gingerbread 2.3.4) already pre-installed. It had some bugs as it was a beta version, but overall it was pretty good.
I then found Cyanogenmod 7.1, where I was able to get around the major issue of apps filling the tiny internal memory using scripts to put entire apps on the SD card. I was stoked, and it ran really well with no major issues. It felt like a new phone.
However, I just got my dad a HTC Desire HD, and it has the stock Sense 3.0 on there (Gingerbread 2.3.5). I was going to install Cyanogenmod, but now I'm wondering if it's truly worth the effort for a basic user.
So why do YOU install a custom ROM?
I install custom ROM's, Radios, Kernals, etc for one simple reason......
every Android phone that I have ever had the pleasure of tinkering with, works better when rooted and ROMmed. It truly gives you the customization that makes you feel like the phone belongs to and was built for YOU!!!
I have ics on all my phones
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Simply to remove all the bloatware and removing sense. I love the pure android ICS experience. Also my phone flys faster without sense
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I install custom ROM's, Radios, Kernals, etc for one simple reason......
every Android phone that I have ever had the pleasure of tinkering with, works better when rooted and ROMmed. It truly gives you the customization that makes you feel like the phone belongs to and was built for YOU!!!
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How do you know for sure? I'm the same, I just flash it without thinking, like I did with my new Samsung Galaxy S2 just a few days ago (ICS, woo!). I was just about the flash this HTC Desire HD and I thought hey... who knows, maybe stock ROMs are pretty good? Or are they generally rubbish?
Well, my D1 ran stock for two months before it got pimped, so I gave it a very thorough chance! My wifes Eris ran stock for four months until she was ready to throw it off a wall, so it got its fair chance too! Then she moved to a D2G, which ran exceptionally well out of the box, I was kind of upset that she didnt like her experience. It did however, run a lot smoother once root and Liberty was added! And now for our GNex's........I ran stock ICS for two weeks and I must truly say, this device doesn't need root or anything else to kick ass, it just does! However, the developer support is just too incredible, and when you add ICSourcery to a GNex, you'll know why it must be rooted and running that ROM!!!
To get rid of crap I didn't need.
$1 gets you a reply
well i have a GN, so bricking or wrecking it is low on the list, its so easy to root, unlock, flash. I love stock ICS, but I do like the extra features I get with CM9.
AOKP on my transformer prime? Dem features.
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The main reason I rooted my phone and through a rom in there is to get the portable wifi for my tablet.
Reason: to learn more about Android phones, and to get rid of bloatware.
make my defy better than 2.1
make my defy fast and have the new software as moto wont do this for us!
still no full hwa but still better than stuck with 2.1
oh and get rid of 2.1 motoblur.... it was crap. the new one rocks but i cant put it on the defy.
BUT if i had an htc or just a sgs2 ics or other ultra super powered phone i would just root change launcher and stay stock!(unless cm9 it waay better like it is now)
in short i want minimalistic beautifull smooth android experience! most importantly fast!(iphone is smooth,not always, but sloooow)
defy running ics latest cm9
because roms are a whole world, it's not just performance or bugs, is the option to change to customize toggles, positions, color, overclock and every little part of you phone...
for example, the resurrection remix or any AOKP let you put calendar events on lockscreen, show wheather in a special panel in the statusbar, hide your battery icon and put a line to measure it, you can even put a navigation bar like nexus
... it's not just cool and waaaaaaay better than stock rom, it is although handy
To get rid of the bloat-ware on the stock firmware!
There is tons of reason to update to a custom ROM. The big deal for me was getting rid of the bloat, also having more features with CM7.
So I could have stock aosp OR sense 3.5. I like both, especially on the thunderbolt (similar to the HD) nothing seems to slow these phones down.
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There are many reasons. For example, the phone looks, feels and works like i want.
And one more reason is, that the original software is not so perfect as the most users want.
Overflowing options. Change everything down to the boot image.And speed,and BATTERY TWEAKS!!!!
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The reason why i'm using a custom rom is the phones OS feel more smooth and stable and all the bloatware from HTC,Samsung etc. were removed so the performance is much better
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