Hi all, just got a TB and rooted it yesterday. It was one of the first things I did when I got my phone, so I can't say that this wasn't an issue beforehand, but it seems like LauncherPro isn't staying in memory. Every now and then, when I press the home screen, it will ask me whether to use HTC Sense or LauncherPro. This will keep occuring at random, even after I've checked to use LauncherPro by default. Is anyone else having this problem? Know a quick fix?
Nobody else experiencing this?
there's an option in launcherpro's general settings 'keep in memory'. have you tried that yet? are you using some sort of app-killer (like advanced task manager or ES)? is launcherpro ignored in that?
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Ah, sorry, should have clarified. Yes, I have the keep in memory already checked and I am not using any sort of app killer unless there is a stock app killer that I don't know about.
ok, then. in the phone's settings menu, go to applications/manage applications, find launcherpro. is it selected to launch by default?
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No defaults set, which is why I assume the settings aren't sticking. Should I just force stop, clear data, uninstall, reinstall to see if that works? Or do you know a nifty way to set it to the default launcher.
raphytaffy said:
No defaults set, which is why I assume the settings aren't sticking. Should I just force stop, clear data, uninstall, reinstall to see if that works? Or do you know a nifty way to set it to the default launcher.
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you could do what I did, and use Titanium to remove HTC Sense from the phone. No point in having it if your going to use a different launcher.
Haven't checked yet, but is removing HTC Sense one of the safe removable apps? Were you having the same issues as I was or did you just remove it because you didn't use it?
i don't recommend uninstalling sense. i know, launcherpro is good and all, but it's still a third party software, and if something goes wrong, you're left with no launcher, and that kind of sucks... and no, i don't know any way to make it default (other that choosing from the list when it pops up). but reinstalling might help!
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raphytaffy said:
Haven't checked yet, but is removing HTC Sense one of the safe removable apps? Were you having the same issues as I was or did you just remove it because you didn't use it?
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i am running das bamf and removed every bit of sense I could get my hands on immediatly as I like what they did with the rom but hate sense. I also installed launcher pro right away and deleted sense.
I have never had launcher pro end up at a point where I couldn't use it anyone. I did this for 2 months on my evo 4g, and will continue to do so.
Just stuck to the tried and true method of clearing data. LauncherPro seems to be sticking now. Thanks for all the replies!
Ah, spoke a little bit too soon. Doesn't seem to be sticking any longer. When I rooted, the process went very smoothly and all root apps that I have run with no problems.
I'm just wondering if there's any way that rooting may have affected LP since no other users seem to be having this problem.
Bumping this.
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Ah, spoke a little bit too soon. Doesn't seem to be sticking any longer. When I rooted, the process went very smoothly and all root apps that I have run with no problems.
I'm just wondering if there's any way that rooting may have affected LP since no other users seem to be having this problem.
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I have had this very same problem since day 1 with my T-Bolt, and it's driving me crazy. I have not rooted yet, so rooting has nothing to do with it... just so you know...
Like with your's, I get that nasty launcher selection popup randomly; and if I exit from any streaming app or music app, it pops up EVERYsingle time the HOME key is pressed.
It also happens with ADW in exactly the same way as LauncherPro, so I would bet it happens with any launcher that is not Sense.
What have I done to fix it?
1. I have uninstalled / re-installed LauncherPro (and ADW), with no luck.
2. Just in case it was a conflict of Google restoring what I had on my Incredible to my T-Bolt, I uninstalled every uninstallable app I could, and then waited over night for Google to do it's backup ( to create a blank backup), and then did a hard reset the next morning, with no luck.
3. In Settings>Privacy, I unchecked the "Back Up My Settings" box and discovered that a window pops up that says, "Are you sure you want to stop backing up your settings and application data AND ERASE ALL COPIES ON GOOGLE SERVERS?" When I saw that, I saw no need to do the overnight thing and did this repeatedly with hard resets - all this WITH NO LUCK.
4. As a last resort, I took my T-Bolt back to Best Buy (thinking that maybe something went wrong in the provisioning process during activation), and they reactivated my T-Bolt with a new SIM card. Once again, NO LUCK.
I don't know what the heck is going on with it. Maybe it's a rogue app that's conflicting with the T-Bolt. I don't know. What I do know is that there is no problem if I'm using Sense, but I don't like Sense and refuse to use it, so I'm stuck with that darned popup.
I thought that rooting and using a different ROM altogether would get rid of the problem. Have you tried flashing a different ROM?
We have got to find out what's causing this, or at least a good workaround.
djkeller3 said:
I thought that rooting and using a different ROM altogether would get rid of the problem. Have you tried flashing a different ROM?
We have got to find out what's causing this, or at least a good workaround.
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Thanks for the reply. Puts my mind at ease knowing that I'm not the only one with the issue and also helps to know that you're experiencing this on an unrooted phone. I have not tried flashing any custom ROMs yet, so perhaps the people who have flashed a ROM can report back on whether LP is acting up on their phones.
I hope it's as simple as LP needing to be updated for TB.
Had this same problem myself... Download an app called HomeSmack from the market. It is free and allows you to switch between Sense and launcherpro easily. Have not had the issue since. Also I can easily switch back to my sense home screen and vice verse without a set-up every time.
Hope this helps
Memnoch73 said:
Had this same problem myself... Download an app called HomeSmack from the market. It is free and allows you to switch between Sense and launcherpro easily. Have not had the issue since. Also I can easily switch back to my sense home screen and vice verse without a set-up every time.
Hope this helps
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Yeah, I forgot to mention that neat little app - Homesmack. I like it. It's the only way I was able to actually get to LauncherPro from Sense. Without it, for me LauncherPro was simply a *download* that I could not access.
However, it did nothing to keep LauncherPro in memory. It does allow you to clear data from Sense and actually kill it momentarily; but once you get back into LauncherPro (or ADW), the problem simply repeats itself on my T-Bolt.
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Thanks for the reply. Puts my mind at ease knowing that I'm not the only one with the issue and also helps to know that you're experiencing this on an unrooted phone. I have not tried flashing any custom ROMs yet, so perhaps the people who have flashed a ROM can report back on whether LP is acting up on their phones.
I hope it's as simple as LP needing to be updated for TB.
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If I have time, I'm gonna root my T-Bolt this weekend. And then I will immediately flash a ROM - ANY ROM - to see if this works.
From what I'm gathering with regards to the T-Bolt... there are lots of bugs with this phone; however, not all T-Bolts share the same problems, and some are way more common than others. My T-Bolt is, for the most part, flawless; except for the launcher staying in memory. My wife has the headphone jack problem with hers... not everyone is experiencing that, but there are a batch of T-Bolts with faulty headphone jacks. Guess that's what we get for being early adopters. What the heck though, every other 4G phone that comes out will have flaws too. If people are expecting these phones to be fully *worked out*, they should wait and upgrade to 4G next year.
In the meantime, I've found that hitting the *back* key instead of the *home* key bypasses the launcher pop-up selector altogether. It can't be relied on completely because there are some apps you can't get out of without hitting the HOME key.
btw, my coworker has a tb and has this issue of the launcher pro constantly asking to be the default launcher. looks like if you hold the home button to switch between tasks, it clears the default launcher setting. try not using the hold home to multitask function to see if that stops this from happening.
I can verify this behaviour, and it 100% reproducible. It 'forgets' the default launcher with 2 actions:
- Pull down the status bar notification.
- Long press home to switch apps.
It doesn't happen otherwise. I use Wave Launcher, and it doesn't affect the default launcher.
This only started happening this weekend. I have to go through the apps I added recently.
I'm not rooted.
Using Zeam launcher.
Everytime I use either ADW or Zeam, I have problems with the Launcher, I assume, being killed off by the system to free resources possibly?
I never used the Sense Launcher, and I really do not plan to--it's not as customizable as I would like (maybe if I can add 5 Rows and a new Dockbar I would?)
Anyhow, this is a huge problem I found with my OG DROID. It was 99% solved with my Fascinate. Now on my TB, it's back at it again, constant redraw. Anytime I am in a memory intensive situation (especially, but there are exceptions to this rule), and I hit the home button, the Launcher is blank and restarts. This surely can't be a memory problem with a phone that has 768 RAM.
I am not rooted, and I don't plan to (did it with my Droid, Fascinate and Nook Color--I simply want a phone that I am happy with as stock.)
Any thoughts on this? Anytime I bring this up, most claim it does not happen to them. I am an app whore, so my phone is loaded, but still?
Thoughts? Ideas?
It used to happen to my D1 and I think it was because of the memory.
You might want to get rooted, and install a senseless rom, therefore you won't have rosie taking up resources, since you don't even use it.
I use launcherpro and I am using a senseless rom and it never happens.
Hope this helps
Eddog4DROID said:
Everytime I use either ADW or Zeam, I have problems with the Launcher, I assume, being killed off by the system to free resources possibly?
I never used the Sense Launcher, and I really do not plan to--it's not as customizable as I would like (maybe if I can add 5 Rows and a new Dockbar I would?)
Anyhow, this is a huge problem I found with my OG DROID. It was 99% solved with my Fascinate. Now on my TB, it's back at it again, constant redraw. Anytime I am in a memory intensive situation (especially, but there are exceptions to this rule), and I hit the home button, the Launcher is blank and restarts. This surely can't be a memory problem with a phone that has 768 RAM.
I am not rooted, and I don't plan to (did it with my Droid, Fascinate and Nook Color--I simply want a phone that I am happy with as stock.)
Any thoughts on this? Anytime I bring this up, most claim it does not happen to them. I am an app whore, so my phone is loaded, but still?
Thoughts? Ideas?
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Do either of those launchers have a setting to "keep in memory" this may help you out. I know LP does, not sure about those since I have never used them. Check out the settings for them, hopefully there is something like that in there.
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Do either of those launchers have a setting to "keep in memory" this may help you out. I know LP does, not sure about those since I have never used them. Check out the settings for them, hopefully there is something like that in there.
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ADW does have a "system persistence" but he said he is taking it out because it doesn't work on 2.3 plus. I use it and it doesn't change anything.
Zeam is minimalistic and has no system settings. I tried LP (I have the paid versions), and the same thing...
Greetings,
I have an unrooted Thunderbolt running launcher pro. When I exit applications, often there is a significant delay in loading up the home screens. Sometimes it happens so often that the device becomes paralyzed for 15 or more seconds before my home screen along with apps pop in.
What are the reasons for this? I have tons of apps, many of which have not been moved to the SD card.
I have tried going back to sense, but the problem persists making me think it isn't a launcher related issue.
Thoughts?
so i get a better picture of whats happening
1. when you first installed launcher pro did it have this lag or did it happen latter.
2. by going back to sense do you mean uninstalling all of launcher pro.
3.- strange question i know but - have you completely powered off the device recently, by that i mean power off like normal and pull the battery then just let it sit for like 10 minuets.
Thanks for your prompt reply.
The problem persists even after taking battery out and restarting.
I did not uninstall launcherpro, I just switched temporarily back to sense to see if I could replicate the problem, and I did.
The problem seems to be getting worse as time goes on, the reason I think it may have to do with adding all of these free apps of the day from amazon.
When I initially installed launcher pro, I never had the problem.
I also seem to be having random reboots several times a day.
priapos said:
Thanks for your prompt reply.
The problem persists even after taking battery out and restarting.
I did not uninstall launcherpro, I just switched temporarily back to sense to see if I could replicate the problem, and I did.
The problem seems to be getting worse as time goes on, the reason I think it may have to do with adding all of these free apps of the day from amazon.
When I initially installed launcher pro, I never had the problem.
I also seem to be having random reboots several times a day.
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i think whats happening is your RAM running low on memory, sense uses a lot of RAM like 300+ Megs and you can't stop it unless you root.(not trying to peer pressure you or anything). but for the time being i suggest to go into settings/apps/running and see if you have apps running in the background that take a lot of memory space. and force stop the ones you don't use that often.
and as for the reboots could you check the baseband version in the about phone part of settings?
I've had a few android phones, but so far I have not run into this issue with any of them. I am running stock + root (though the issue was happening before root) and every once in a while I'll notice an icon is missing from one of my home screens.
Typically, it's been my Scrabble icon that goes missing. Sometimes it will be TouchDown or Words With Friends that disappear, or it will be a widget. Has anyone encountered this?
I've tried doing a reset of the phone, but still run into the same thing after a few days. I have checked to make sure that an update was not done to the app, turned off auto-updates for any of the affected programs that I've noticed so far, but still I find that the icon disappears.
I'd appreciate any input as to a way to find out when/how the icon was deleted from the screen. Since I'm the only one that uses my phone, I don't think it's being dropped accidentally by someone else. I do know that I have used an app's icon before going to bed, but when I wake up the next day, it or one of the others that was there is gone.
Have you moved any of these apps to the SD card?
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Nope, not running anything from the SD card. I use it mainly for moving music and the occassional movie between two different devices.
That was happening to me too on stock 2.3.6 but after I flashed sky ics ROM it fixed it
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That was happening to me too on stock 2.3.6 but after I flashed sky ics ROM it fixed it
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it has happened on every single rom. including skyics....skyics does it the least out of any ROM I've used...but it still does it...i have 155 apps installed...every other reboot I end up with 150 or less....
and I could reboot again...and lose more apps...i have to reinstall them...sometimes they will all come back after a reboot
NONE are moved to SD, default install location.
this is the only droid that has done that...it's really weird.
Howdy. I've had my Skyrocket now for a few weeks and loving it (previous Iphone owner). One issue though..
Sometimes when I close an app the desktop doesn't show any widgets/icons for about maybe 5 seconds then they come back. Not end of the world I guess but annoying.
Any way to fix that? Maybe it's something to do with memory management?
I'm using standard ROM, I rooted to remove all the bloatware and running JuiceDefender. I tried disabling juicedefender but I still get it.
I have four pages on my desktop, nothing too fancy, some icons, some widgets.
Thanks
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Which launcher are you using? I recommend freezing juice defender in an app like titanium backup and rebooting phone. If problem persists, it's something else. But if you're running stock rom I'm fairly certain its JD