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Need an app developed for the T9193? Anyone interested?

Guys, I'm interested in buying this phone http://negrielectronics.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=9193&order=relevance&dir=desc but my problem is my eyesight and I need something that enlarges everything on the phone. NOT just the font when you write or something.
Less space between icons, utilizing the space better and instead of like the way the iphone was (sample)
John Smith 888-444-555
Have something more like this
John Smith 888-444-555
You know, use the space instead of just wasting it.
I tried years ago with my LG 9800 putting people's pics on there so I could see who was calling and still, they wouldn't let me use the whole screen for the picture but only a small portion in the middle.
With the help of one of the guys here, I found this http://www.touchxperience.com/en/applications/advanced-configuration-tool.html but of course, unless I have the phone, I can't test it.
The same guy suggested I get someone here to help me and write something for me so here I am.
I found this DROID app that says "Font Size globally enlarges text in all apps (Email, SMS, Maps, Home, Weather, Calendar, Widgets, ...)."
That's kinda what I want but possibly even bigger icons to boot.
Now, for my use and where I am, I have been recommended the 9193 so it would be great if someone here that has one could do something and show me how big things can get (if this is possible).
Thanks
George

Hi George and welcome.
I am sure someone on XDA can help you out.
I will move your thread to the Themes and Apps forum where you will probably get a better response.
Good luck with this venture, hope you find what you seek.
WB

Thank you Mr. Banana sir
I hope I can get some help too. Man, I can't believe this should be so hard. I mean, I'm not the only ol' fart around am I?
'preciate it
Oh, and I changed the title since you moved it.
Thanks again
George

There is a global "text size" setting which can be changed in WM. It will change the text for most of the system. Unfortunately some programs do not obey this setting and will default to small fonts - there's not much you can do about those programs though rather than get the developer to rewrite them.

I´m using zoo(o)mer a program that enlarges your sight.
Just try .

Guys, I don't have the actual phone nor do I have access to one.
Is there anyone here that can do this and show me a screen capture or something?
Ideally, putting it on a scanner and scanning it would be great. That way the size of the unit is accurate and I can compare it to other phones.
Thanks
George

Get one and add stuff
I have the T9193 and Zoomer is about your best bet at the moment, it will allow pinching to enlarge in most programs and areas in the phone.
When it comes to the phone calls etc there are some great apps developed on here that enlarge keys etc and use the vast space of the screen so blokes like us can see to do what we need to do without glasses.....mostly.
I use Iconsoft Phonex 2.2 for the dialer app, everything is nice and large!
Zoomer works great.
The phone is brilliant so get one add zoomer and Phonex and you will be very happy.....mostly...there will be the odd spot to annoy you but you will be able to live with it.

Well, I may have to take your word for it and of course, if I don't like it, I can just send the phone to you for a refund, right?
Seriously though, that sounds good.
Don't suppose you're in a position to do some screen captures, video or a scan of the phone so I can see what I'm doing?
Where do I get the zoomer and phoenix and how much are they?
Are you running 6.5 on there and is there anything different in 7?
Thanks guys
George

PhoneEx is good. But when I try to send an email from the contact of PhoneEx, "send from" will be "outlook mail'. Is it possible to change it to "hotmail", if yes, how?
Thanks a lot!

Is outlook mail the only choice?
Mind you, I would probably do it directly from the server like I do now but still, I hate outlook

give it a search... im quite sure there are lots of solutions instead of using outlook.
(p.s. I dont have mobile internet plan so i dont use the email function that often. but im sure you will come up with lots of solutions. the hd2 is great )

Hell, as long as it does the other stuff I want it to do, that's gonna be a minor thing since I tend to do my mail directly from the mail server anyway. I was just curious.
I'm hoping to get a reply on the zoom and phonex questions soon and I might go ahead and buy the phone tomorrow or something.
Thanks guys
George

Guys, while I'm at it, I just realized I should post my "wish" list here for you to comment on it and what's available and not on the 9193.
I actually sent this to Negrielectronics.com and they've been working with me to find the right phone so again, I want to put a plug for them 'cause they've been great!
Anyway, here it is in "kinda" order of importance to me...well, except for the first few, they are just questions I added later.
Cell Phone Wish List
1. Voice recording for PHONE conversations
2. Voice recording for other conversations, as in voice memos with built in mic.
3. Phonebook limited to memory size or are there size limitations?
4. Can I import my information from my Palm PDA?
5. Ability to have LARGE Letters and Numbers
6. LOUD RINGER and ability to put any ring tone on it. I will attach the one you put on the last phone so you can see it.
7. Loud Volume on phone
8. Loud Volume on speaker
9. Function as modem for getting online. NOT a must but would like to.
10. Pop e mail so I can check my mail if I want to.
11. Good browser capabilities (think iPhone)
12. Large clock so I can see it easier. You know, when the phone is in standby mode and you want to check what time it is. I love the clock that’s show in the picture of the HTC Touch HD2 T9193
13. Predictive dialing (I liked this from the HTC Vox that you let me try. Very cool. You dial and it keeps trying to guess which number you want. I’d LIKE this but NOT a requirement.
14. Latest Bluetooth version
15.
16. PREFER Real keyboard but not a requirement. I’ve gotten used to dialing on the screen and I don’t text at all.
17. GSM/3G/Fast Internet speeds. Probably going to use it on AT&T. I was never very happy with Verizon and for me at least, ATT worked better. Note, Ryan recommended T-Mobile and I will probably go with that, if nothing else but for the cost.
18. I don’t need a whole lot of the cool gadgets and features on it. I don’t do music or watch videos or download stuff. If it has a good browser like the iphone, that would be great but I mainly want a good PHONE. Camera is good to have and I do actually use it. Liked the one on the iphone and that the lens wasn’t too damn wide. That always pisses me off.
19. I would like a way to connect a corded headset, preferably without adapters.
20. I don’t care if it’s windows or not as I don’t plan on having letters and spread sheets on it. I have PDA’s for that.
21. At least 500 numbers in the phone book. Maybe predictive
22. I do NOT want a flip phone!
23. If it has keyboard on the front, I need LARGER buttons, NOT like the blueberry. My fingers are too thick for that.
24. Also, I would like the option to return it to you if it doesn’t work with my hands free in the car. Just like I did with the Vox and I would be happy to pay some fee for this if necessary.
25. As a phone, the Vox was superior to the iPhone but two things I didn’t like. Size of everything of course and it sucked at displaying web pages. I would actually like to change my requirement. I WOULD like something that displays web pages as well as the iPhone does. It did a beautiful job and I MAY need this feature in the future so if you guys are going to recommend something with a little larger screen, type HTC or iPhone, then I would like something that displays the web pages properly. Of course, it could be that they all do that now, I don’t know.
26. Ryan, I talked to Kenwood to find out which Bluetooth version it had as the handsfree unit was built in but they had no clue. Big surprise there. THIS is the unit I have from Kenwood (DNX8120) and although they didn’t have a list of compatible phones, there is a page on their site where one can look up the compatibility so I’m sending you that instead so that when the guys find a phone that’s suitable for me, they or I can go online and check it.
http://www.kenwood.com/cs/ce/bt/index.php In the first drop down menu on the left, select DNX8. underneath select DNX8120 and under that, select INCLUDE and then on the right, find the phone I’m getting.
Well, I think this is about what I can come up with.
IF I get a laptop with built in wireless that I can use would I have to have an account for that and again, would I be stuck with the higher priced plan or how does that work

I've got a phone, nah nah nah nah nah nah...
Alright boys, I went with the Desire for AT&T from Negri Electronics (and by the way, if someone wants one, they've got 50 of them coming in monday or tuesday) so I need to ramp up the search for apps to make me see things better
Oh, and linky if someone wants it http://negrielectronics.com/htc-desire-a8183-android-att-850-us-na-3g-unlocked.html
They've got other versions if you don't want AT&T by the way.
Later yall
George

Living with the HTC 7 Pro

Okay, so its been a little over a week, so I thought I would post some objective opinions.
Whilst there a mixed batch of reviews out there, my personal overall feelings on the device are quite positive. Its a sturdy, well built device which in my opinion is let down mainly by a below par screen and a keyboard that is not quite as good as the one on the touch pro 2.
Additionally the paltry 8gb of internal storage borders on an insult! Particularly as microsofts cloud services are not what they should be, and wp7 currently has no apps to support streaming from home media servers.
Having bought it to replace my lost TP2, I honestly think that HTC also should have included a front facing camera and the speakerphone functionality of its predecessor. In terms of hardware, that's where my criticisms end......
Whilst the keys lack the travel found on the tp2,the keyword still works pretty well!
The screen washes out far too easily, but out of direct sunlight it is vibrant with good colour reproduction.
If you are moving from a windows mobile device, whilst wp7 is a delightful interface, you may wish to wait for Microsoft to release the mango update. As slick and intuitive as wp7 is there is still a great deal missing...
No direct sync with outlook
No unified mailbox
No ability to make or send videos in mms form.
No voice guided Sat nav software
No support for Rar files......... No file explorer!
No cut and paste
No pause dialling
And these are just the things I can remember off the top of my head!
To reiterate the user interface is awesome but still very much in its infancy. I think it is absolutely ridiculous that I can no longer drag and drop audio and video onto the device without first going through Zune.
the camera is pretty good as is 720p video recording.
Overall it is a good device that has the potential to be great but only if and when MS decide to pull their finger out.
I've probably forgotten loads of stuff. If any one has any questions please feel free to ask and I'll do my best to answer.

I think it's only fair to add a comparison to the HTC Arrive (sprints 7 pro).
No direct sync with outlook
- Outlook works perfectly fine with HTC Arrive, syncs and pushes.
No unified mailbox
- There is no unified email on any WP7 device yet, but will come in Mango release.
No ability to make or send videos in mms form.
- Can't do this on the Arrive either, can send pictures just fine though.
No voice guided Sat nav software
- The Arrive comes with TeleNav, which works just fine. It is voice guided, text to speach and all.
No support for Rar files......... No file explorer!
- Can't do this either, however, you can have a file explorer once unlocked (though, unlocking via Chevron doesn't seem to work with NoDo update. Official Developer unlocking seems to not work also, but I can't confirm)
No cut and paste
- NoDo update enabled this, so the Arrive can do it.
No pause dialling
- I'm not even sure what this is.

Can you force this phone to roam like in WM6.1?

I gotta say that MS nailed the OS in terms of actually working and being vert smoothe and fast!
As mentioned, Zune for syncing blows nasty chunks. It's a shame because I like the Zune app, but dragging and dropping files is a must, just like custom ringers, IMO.
It also sucked that SkyDrive is such a piss-poor excuse for a cloud service. I had to email all of my word and excel documents to myself and save them to the phone, only way I could get them on there.
The hardware is great but the antenna is worse than the TP2, less signal. Also when coming out of roaming, I have had to reset because on the Sprint Arrive, it wouldn't kick back from 1X to EVDO.

92GTA said:
I gotta say that MS nailed the OS in terms of actually working and being vert smoothe and fast!
As mentioned, Zune for syncing blows nasty chunks. It's a shame because I like the Zune app, but dragging and dropping files is a must, just like custom ringers, IMO.
It also sucked that SkyDrive is such a piss-poor excuse for a cloud service. I had to email all of my word and excel documents to myself and save them to the phone, only way I could get them on there.
The hardware is great but the antenna is worse than the TP2, less signal. Also when coming out of roaming, I have had to reset because on the Sprint Arrive, it wouldn't kick back from 1X to EVDO.
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In regards to Zune for syncing, what do you mean dragging and dropping files is a must? I was able to drag and drop all my MP3's and Picture folders from Zune onto the phone icon in Zune and it synced up for me just fine.
I haven't messed with skydrive, so no comment on that one.
My phone went into roam a second ago here in my office (always had bad reception here), and when I moved to a better spot it jumped back onto EV without any resets or anything like that.

cyclical said:
In regards to Zune for syncing, what do you mean dragging and dropping files is a must? I was able to drag and drop all my MP3's and Picture folders from Zune onto the phone icon in Zune and it synced up for me just fine.
I haven't messed with skydrive, so no comment on that one.
My phone went into roam a second ago here in my office (always had bad reception here), and when I moved to a better spot it jumped back onto EV without any resets or anything like that.
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Trying going into roaming in the mountains and no signal at aall, then let me know if it comes back to EVDO ok
What I meant was unless the files are already in ZUNE, you can't drag them to your device. Which means for example when I put my MicroSD card from my TP2 into my computer, I could not drag the files onto my Arrive. Even when I told ZUNE to check that folder, it still wouldn't import the files for me to drag them on.
Yeah SkyDrive is a joke, especially for media...

92GTA said:
I gotta say that MS nailed the OS in terms of actually working and being vert smoothe and fast!
As mentioned, Zune for syncing blows nasty chunks. It's a shame because I like the Zune app, but dragging and dropping files is a must, just like custom ringers, IMO.
It also sucked that SkyDrive is such a piss-poor excuse for a cloud service. I had to email all of my word and excel documents to myself and save them to the phone, only way I could get them on there.
The hardware is great but the antenna is worse than the TP2, less signal. Also when coming out of roaming, I have had to reset because on the Sprint Arrive, it wouldn't kick back from 1X to EVDO.
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I'm not sure I understand your frustration with SkyDrive?
1. Go to www.skydrive.com and login
2. Select the folder you want to upload to
3. Click "Add Files" on the top
4. A new windows pops up where you can drag documents to. You also have the toption to select documents for upload manually.
5. Drag and drop away
Shouldn't be any reason to email files to your phone first.

my thoughts on the HTC 7 Pro (after 2 days)
I've had HTC's for a long time now, XDA2, XDA2i, Tytn, Tytn2, TouchPro, TouchPro2, and now the 7 Pro. Although I'm by no means an expert, I like to think I know what I'm doing...
So I was really excited about getting this phone!! really excited! maybe abit too excited, i incorrectly assumed that this would basically be a WP7 version of the TP2, so maybe i didn't check the spec as well as i ought.
Couple of things that disappointed me as soon as i unpacked the phone. Firstly searching for the slot to put my 16GB MicroSD... why would they not allow external memory cards? ALL of the phones i listed above had storage card ports... Secondly, finding ANOTHER different type of interconnect to the phone! grrr... so that means the home/car chargers, the data-cables, the speaker dock, the funny little HTC breakout cable are not compatible. Since the Tytn, i thought HTC would stick with their MicroUSBex port... it always seemed to work well so why change it? Finally regarding the layout of the 7 pro, the interconnect ports seem to be in very odd positions. My car dock has the phone upright, and the arms which hold it in place are in the way because the charge cable is on the side... weird! likewise i think the position of the headphone/mic socket is weird... had my hands free on for the drive to work this morning, and it's dangling in front of the screen... again, put the connector at the bottom! surely that's a better place for it?
so after using the phone for a while i can almost forgive all the draw backs i mentioned above, i love how fast and responsive it is! the camera seems to be of good quality and there also seems to be enough apps available to keep me busy for a long time. however, there are some annoyances from M$ too. wallpaper? very large buttons on the home screen... it's a BIG screen, i can use it with my thumb without the buttons taking up half the screen! where on earth have all the settings gone? i can see they're trying to simplify the operations, which is really good... but! if some people want to drill down into some more specific settings then they should be able to? a clock... on the dashboard, i don't think tiny one in the corner counts as a clock .
i have read that alot of people are unhappy with the Sky drive situation... i don't think it's too bad, being forced into slimming my data down (because of the MicroSD port situation) has probably done me some good, i'm happy that my photo are now stored somewhere safer than just on my phone (and home computer if you count syncing 3 or 4 times a year!). my big problem is the situation with M$ "my phone" i have around 10,000 text messages on there, i don't know why i want to keep them... but i do! and i want to continue to keep syncing them! before my phone was about, i was using JEYO to sync to outlook (i still haven't got around to exporting those out and putting them on "my phone"!). why would M$ stop supporting something that worked well? lastly about data management, file explorer? OMG i had that on windows 3.1! surely it's got to be there somewhere?
I'll try and be positive to finish this up. LOVE the speed, LOVE the screen especially the dual touch, LOVE the apps, LOVE the Xbox360 integration. i really think it's got HUGE potential. i hope someone cares enough to sort out the problems for the HTC 7 pro II
thanks for taking the time to read

After looking closely at my HTC Arrive, I swear I can see 2 small circles just above and to the right of the HTC symbol on the front. One I know is the light sensor but what is the second one. I hear that it is actually a front facing camera... The whole thing looks just like it does on the Evo.

I was just looking at some reviews and noticed the USB port on the side.
WTF are they thinking?
I keep my Tilt2 in an upright dock on my desk for sync.
How do you build a dock for that?
And in my car, i keep the unit in a dash holder with a power connector
out the bottom. A side connector would be real clumsy.
The cord would be under a tight stress angle.
Dave.

Yes - it's VERY annoying! aside from the position, which as far as i can tell is just a poor design, changing to ANOTHER different connector is ridiculas...MicroUSB-EMU was fine, most camera's and other USB devices use MicroUSB connectors, so i have loads of those cables... now i have to buy all new! boo!

WM6.5 for 7PRO?
jb347 said:
Can you force this phone to roam like in WM6.1?
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I make the same question: ¿can I have in my 7 PRO the WM6.5? I would be very happy if they could. The WP7 is very poor.
I want to run in my phone apps like Garmin, WiFi-Router, File Explorer, Remote Desktop native, and more.
Is there a miraculous person who can create this ROM?

mikoriad said:
After looking closely at my HTC Arrive, I swear I can see 2 small circles just above and to the right of the HTC symbol on the front. One I know is the light sensor but what is the second one. I hear that it is actually a front facing camera... The whole thing looks just like it does on the Evo.
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One is Proximity and one is Ambient Light

Ricki_Hunter said:
Yes - it's VERY annoying! aside from the position, which as far as i can tell is just a poor design, changing to ANOTHER different connector is ridiculas...MicroUSB-EMU was fine, most camera's and other USB devices use MicroUSB connectors, so i have loads of those cables... now i have to buy all new! boo!
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I'm pretty sure the switch to micro-usb is due to the European standardization on that plug. All phones in Europe must comply and it just makes sense to push that to the US (and any other country) as well since it simplifies manufacturing. I've seen news articles where the US is standardizing starting in January 2012.....guess which plug they are standardizing on -- micro-usb. Bite the bullet, it'll be worth it in the long run.
I'm just glad it's getting easier to get USB plugs for the wall and car.....now you only have to swap out the cable instead of getting new chargers.

cohowap said:
I think it's only fair to add a comparison to the HTC Arrive (sprints 7 pro).
No direct sync with outlook
- Outlook works perfectly fine with HTC Arrive, syncs and pushes.
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If I have HTC 7 PRO, ¿can I sync with Outlook "perfectly"? Because now I can't.

udaberrian said:
If I have HTC 7 PRO, ¿can I sync with Outlook "perfectly"? Because now I can't.
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The Syncing with Outlook should really read "Syncs with Exchange" as you sync to the server and not to your local program. I exported all of my contacts from Outlook and imported them into Windows Live Mail (tied to my Live account) and got them across that way.

[Q] Upgrading from HD2 / WinMo6.5

Longtime winmo user with t-mobile since mda vario so have gotten used to tweaking the registry direct and finding/installing ARM cabs off the internet, but as Android seems to be the way to go i feel now is a good time to take the plunge, so just a few noob questions about android to make me feel at ease
#1 Can you save direct from the browser files such as mp3s zips rars etc to be viewed later? having used a friends iPhone i noticed it streamed music and video files rather than a save as option.
#2 Do you have control of the directory structure eg a form of file explorer,so you can rearrange where things are located on your device or card.
#3 given I'm not very likely to mess around with roms and the like, and this phone has htc's sense front end, will I find the migration from the HD2s interface to the sensation easy? i love all the Facebook, YouTube and twitter integration so I'm hoping it will all be there in some form or another.
I realise a lot of this is subjective and rather depends on the individual, but I would appreciate feedback on these less techie issues, as im more likely to base my upgrade on functionality than specification.
cheers!

major_otaku said:
Longtime winmo user with t-mobile since mda vario so have gotten used to tweaking the registry direct and finding/installing ARM cabs off the internet, but as Android seems to be the way to go i feel now is a good time to take the plunge, so just a few noob questions about android to make me feel at ease
#1 Can you save direct from the browser files such as mp3s zips rars etc to be viewed later? having used a friends iPhone i noticed it streamed music and video files rather than a save as option.
#2 Do you have control of the directory structure eg a form of file explorer,so you can rearrange where things are located on your device or card.
#3 given I'm not very likely to mess around with roms and the like, and this phone has htc's sense front end, will I find the migration from the HD2s interface to the sensation easy? i love all the Facebook, YouTube and twitter integration so I'm hoping it will all be there in some form or another.
I realise a lot of this is subjective and rather depends on the individual, but I would appreciate feedback on these less techie issues, as im more likely to base my upgrade on functionality than specification.
cheers!
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1) yes
2) yes (Astro File manager works very well)
3) you shouldnt have a problem making the transition.

I'd like to add in a questions since I'm doing the exact same thing (MDA>Tilt>TP2>HD2).
Is there any way to backup my text messages to my PC & read them from there? I currently use Jeyo Mobile Extender to back up my HD2s texts to Outlook & can read them there.
Also, I use Outlook to sync my calendar & contacts, is it an easy transition from this to using Google? I've seen how you can use the HTC Sync program to sync with Outlook but that doesn't look as easy as using Active Sync/WMDC

When I used WinMo/Outlook last (2008), I imported my contacts directly into Google. A search will get you multiple ways I'm sure.
Handcent is widely considered the best replacement SMS client on Android, and it offers some cloud features for SMS.
Alternately, you could port your number to Google Voice or simply use Voice for all of your SMS needs so it's all managed withing the Android app and available on the web.
There are many SMS backup app utilities also.

Ok more questions.
-How easy/hard is it to change the various icons & stuff in Android. I currently use DINIK's custom just about everything on WM6.5 & would like to do something similar in Android.
-Can the camera timestamp pics on the image like in WM?
-If you add a birthday to a Contact & sync does it automatically add it to the Calendar (& put it all the way back to the year) like in WM?
I may have more. Also, sorry OP for hijacking your thread.

I've never seen a reason to change any of the icons in Android. The stock Android icons are just fine, and Sense might change that. Can't answer that one.
I'm not sure why you'd want to put a timestamp on the actual photo. All of that information is in the EXIF data embedded in the .jpg. My Nexus One has no apparent means of adding the timestamp, but there are many, many camera applications available and I'm sure it's a feature elsewhere. Also, the Sensation might not use the Android camera, and that feature could be present in an HTC camera.
I always did like the birthday thing in WM, and I've not fiddled with it enough to see if that's a feature that has been retained. The stock Android calendar widget is crap, as it's only one event per day, so perhaps Sense and/or a Calendar app, of which there are many, can facilitate this.
(As I said, I've used WM6 in the past, but it's been a while. My Herald with WM6.5 was okay, but the last time I used it as a primary phone was November 2008 on the MDA.)

I understand all the info in in the EXIF data, but I do like having the timestamp so I can see the date of the pic right away.
So the stock Calendar app kinda sucks huh? Hmm I'll have to look in to that when I get this phone. I rely on this app a lot for reminders of birthdays, bills, tasks, etc.
As for the icons, I'm just curious. WMs icons sucked (as everyone knows) so of course everyone wanted them changed. I'd just like to know that the option is there for Android in case I want to do it.

Fair enough.
The calendar app is decent, and you can set alarms and notifications with ease. One of the greatest things about the Google integration is that your changes done on the device or web are synchronized, which I'm certain you're aware of.
The Calendar widget is my complaint. You can have 10 events happening on a day and it'll only display one of them. Not two, or an indicator that there are more events to be seen. One.
There are other free and paid calendar widgets that make this much less an issue.
Google app icons are, like most things Google, simple and effective.

kampf said:
The Calendar widget is my complaint. You can have 10 events happening on a day and it'll only display one of them. Not two, or an indicator that there are more events to be seen. One.
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ah ok, thanks for the clarification. Sadly WM is the same way but the mod Cookie's Home Tab was able to fix that & let's you decide how many to show. I guess I'll have to find a replacement.

I'm actually shocked people still use winmo on HD2. Android is a breath of fresh air.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I tried it once, couldn't get the MMS settings to stick & just forgot about it. I like WM6.5 but I'm ready for an OS that still has support for new stuff.
Another question: my girlfriend has the MyTouch4G. I've noticed the screen doesn't turn on when receiving a text message. Is this standard on Android? Is there anyway to fix that?
Also, for the MMS settings on hers, there's no way to choose how to download the pic. With WM on my HD2 it gives you the option of original resolution & other, smaller ones. Is there a way to do that in Android as well?

The MT4G has some serious tweaks to it, but the SMS behavior is probably normal. I recommend Hancent again because not only does it wake and notify, but you can send a reply without unlocking the screen, though it does not unlock the device.
MMS saving is pretty much save-what-you-get, which sometimes is not that large. There are also MMS-saving apps.

xnifex said:
I tried it once, couldn't get the MMS settings to stick & just forgot about it. I like WM6.5 but I'm ready for an OS that still has support for new stuff.
Another question: my girlfriend has the MyTouch4G. I've noticed the screen doesn't turn on when receiving a text message. Is this standard on Android? Is there anyway to fix that?
Also, for the MMS settings on hers, there's no way to choose how to download the pic. With WM on my HD2 it gives you the option of original resolution & other, smaller ones. Is there a way to do that in Android as well?
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If she is on stock? The stock screen turns on briefly then turns off. The mms setting is weird it took me awhile to find out how to do it. You don't click the picture you click and hold slightly above it and then there is an option to save.
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MaxReality said:
I'm actually shocked people still use winmo on HD2. Android is a breath of fresh air.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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I'm pretty much a stickler for stock roms. i know, call me old fashioned but I'm probably going to mess about with my HD2 once it isn't my only phone

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I'm pretty much a stickler for stock roms. i know, call me old fashioned but I'm probably going to mess about with my HD2 once it isn't my only phone
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Fair play. what got my goat, was windows mobile has been out for a looong time. And it didn't really change much. then iphone came along, with a million quality apps, and nothing really changed with winmo. and then Android came along with a million free apps, and after a while in the UK we got the Marketplace in the UK with, erm about 8 apps, and then they charged you like £20!
After playing with these other phones, as soon as a reliable android rom became available, I gave winmo the 2 fingers. I've used them for 10 years, so have a right to be miffed. But yeah, roms not designed for the device were flakey. and like you I prob won't mess with my next phone.
Was just shocked that people stuck to winmo, with there being an alternative, - unlimited amount of android fun.
Anyone not used these android phones will be blown away with the amount of free useful and gimmicky apps.

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MMS saving is pretty much save-what-you-get, which sometimes is not that large. There are also MMS-saving apps.
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it sucks. I'll send her a pic from the HD2 & when she gets it it's been shrunk down a lot. When she sends me a picture it's still fairly big because of the setting on WM.
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If she is on stock? The stock screen turns on briefly then turns off. The mms setting is weird it took me awhile to find out how to do it. You don't click the picture you click and hold slightly above it and then there is an option to save.
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it's not the saving that I'm worried about, it's the fact that pics that I send her that should be a lot bigger are shrunk down in size. If someone sends me a pic, I want it to be as big as possible & not be messed with before it gets to me.
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I'm pretty much a stickler for stock roms. i know, call me old fashioned but I'm probably going to mess about with my HD2 once it isn't my only phone
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I agree, I like stock ROMs. The 3.14 ROM is nice & I have it set up perfectly with CHT. I'm going to do the same thing tho with my HD2 once I get the Sensation.

There's no good reason to use MMS between you two. Get Dropbox accounts and share a folder. Upload photos there and they're full size and accessible anywhere.
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yeah but there's still a reason to MMS between me & my mother/sister/brother/buddy/friends that don't have Android phones.
Your reasoning is kinda like the reason Apple kept MMS out of the iPhone for so long: they thought it wasn't needed because you can just email it. Sorry but MMS will be around for a bit.

Oh man, good on you for reminding me of how Apple resisted MMS for so long. Heck, most people forget that the iPhone HAD NO APPS for a year after it was released.

@OP
Are you looking about upgrading to the Sensation, or is this about android on the HD2
If it isn't about the sensation, do you mind if I move this to HD2 Android.

HTC ChaCha vs Blackberry vs others

Can anyone tell me what benefits a Blackberry has over the ChaCha? The phone will mainly be used for texts, calls and basic internet browsing. It's not going to be connected to a corporate environment. And will be mainly associated with a personal Google Account for GMail, Google Calendar and Google Contacts.
My wife has suggested she wants a Blackberry but I'm trying to convince her that an Android phone in the Blackberry form factor will be a better option. However, I'm not that familiar with Blackberry so I want to make sure there's no overseen benefit of the Blackberry given her usage profile.
On a related note, I've also looked at a few other Android handsets in the Blackberry form factor. Has anyone got any comments/opinions on these compared to the ChaCha:
Motorola XPRT
Motorola Pax
Motorola Titanium
Motorola Charm
Samsung Galaxy Pro
Orange Barcelona
LG Optimus Pro

In its current Rom state with its poor management of internal memory I would say the big advantage of a BB is that the email will work and not freeze up, which is something gmail has a tendancy to do when the phone gets full on Android.
Battery, there's another plus for BB over the chacha.
This is ignoring the personalisation the Android offers, which for me is important. Despite my points above is rather have the chacha tho.
Sent from my HTC ChaCha A810e using Tapatalk

qbert456 said:
In its current Rom state with its poor management of internal memory I would say the big advantage of a BB is that the email will work and not freeze up, which is something gmail has a tendancy to do when the phone gets full on Android.
Battery, there's another plus for BB over the chacha.
This is ignoring the personalisation the Android offers, which for me is important. Despite my points above is rather have the chacha tho.
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You can use the standard Mail app for Gmail. Just add a new account there, using your gmail.com adress. It works better than the GMail app (which sucks). Apart from that, the internal memory can be fixed with a factory reset and moving the apps that you download to the sd card.

The truth is the stock gmail, mail or even k9 and others do not even come close to BB for email.
Here's why:
- bb will keep all your emails going back to the day you add your account. So 3 weeks from now you can refer back to an email without being on the network. Gmail does too but with a huge performance hit and internal memory will eventually get full.
- FAST, the bb mail app is instant. no waiting to compose, it doesn't get slower as more mails come in, no syncing slowdowns, it's lightning fast.
- Spell check - I dunno, but my chacha doesn't have spell check unless you activate autocomplete which is just way to slow to be useful.
- Conversation mode. With gmail you're stuck with one mode. BB gives you option for both.
- Trackpad makes editing a breeze. My chacha has arrow keys which is good, but getting around is much faster with a trackpad.
- Use of screen, Gmail is not designed for small screens. BB shows you a hella lot on every screen.
Theres more, but that should give you an idea of why email is better on bb and why bb is p0wnaging that market still.
Other BB highlights are battery life, build quality, SMS and camera.
Tough call though, you really take a hit on email with android. If email isn't so important, then go for the chacha.
I prefer my chacha for everything else. Browsing is still better on android, apps, and customization is #1 by far. It is a slippery mofo though, you'll need a gelly case and with the chin/bend the case fits weird.
- Memory is no issue once you do reset and move to sd as mentioned above.
- HTC Sense is also an issue, it's laggy as hell. Switch to launcher pro and you're flying.
- Stock browser gives you 4 windows max. Go for opera mini or dolphin mini for the best browsing on any phone.
About those other phones:
Had a Droid pro - sucks big time, no arrow keys, squeaks & creeks - crap build quality, screen res is too small, keyb a bit better than my bb 9700.
Had a Charm - is completely useless, but keyb was actually good.
Seen the Galaxy Pro - sucks, no led flash, low res screen and overall much lower end than chacha
Motorola XPRT - droid pro all over again
Don't know about the others.

The ChaCha is unique in its appeal on many levels. My girlfriend just bought one a few days ago and she was really set on it and nothing else because she insisted on a physical keyboard and refused to have any slider mechanism of any kind fearing it might spoil. She also needed a WiFi hotspot feature for her iPod touch which handles all the big screen stuff. The BB OS 6 devices still lack this feature.
The ChaCha is already more advanced in many ways than the entire Blackberry range by virtue of Android, but I think it really comes down to its price. Spec-for-spec it matches the Bold 9700 very closely but costs about as much as the Curve. Not to mention that desite HTC's inexperience with this form-factor, the keyboard is a pleasure to use.
Here in Singapore, the only other portrait QWERTY Android phones are the Samsung Galaxy Pro (rubbish screen, build and still on Froyo) and Motorola Charm (ancient). Motorola hasn't even bothered to launch the Pro which could have been a viable option.

zebdi said:
The truth is the stock gmail, mail or even k9 and others do not even come close to BB for email.
Here's why:
- bb will keep all your emails going back to the day you add your account. So 3 weeks from now you can refer back to an email without being on the network. Gmail does too but with a huge performance hit and internal memory will eventually get full.
- FAST, the bb mail app is instant. no waiting to compose, it doesn't get slower as more mails come in, no syncing slowdowns, it's lightning fast.
- Spell check - I dunno, but my chacha doesn't have spell check unless you activate autocomplete which is just way to slow to be useful.
- Conversation mode. With gmail you're stuck with one mode. BB gives you option for both.
- Trackpad makes editing a breeze. My chacha has arrow keys which is good, but getting around is much faster with a trackpad.
- Use of screen, Gmail is not designed for small screens. BB shows you a hella lot on every screen.
Theres more, but that should give you an idea of why email is better on bb and why bb is p0wnaging that market still.
Other BB highlights are battery life, build quality, SMS and camera.
Tough call though, you really take a hit on email with android. If email isn't so important, then go for the chacha.
I prefer my chacha for everything else. Browsing is still better on android, apps, and customization is #1 by far. It is a slippery mofo though, you'll need a gelly case and with the chin/bend the case fits weird.
- Memory is no issue once you do reset and move to sd as mentioned above.
- HTC Sense is also an issue, it's laggy as hell. Switch to launcher pro and you're flying.
- Stock browser gives you 4 windows max. Go for opera mini or dolphin mini for the best browsing on any phone.
About those other phones:
Had a Droid pro - sucks big time, no arrow keys, squeaks & creeks - crap build quality, screen res is too small, keyb a bit better than my bb 9700.
Had a Charm - is completely useless, but keyb was actually good.
Seen the Galaxy Pro - sucks, no led flash, low res screen and overall much lower end than chacha
Motorola XPRT - droid pro all over again
Don't know about the others.
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Thanks. This was a really helpful post with a lot of good information. I eventually went for the Orange Barcelona (also know as Huawei U8350 or Huawei Boulder). It's a great phone and I got it really cheap 2nd hand. It'll probably be used until the Motorola Pro+ is released in UK. The phone looks really sweet (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/31/motorola_launches_pro_plus_smartphone/).

Give me good reasons to buy 8x

Hi, i'm coming from 2 years of htc desire HD, I'm interested to buy a new phone, i was wainting for htc m7, but 8x is really beautifull, but i'm a little scared about wp8 give me good reasons to don't be scared and to buy 8x.

Its a smooth phone. Me and my wife wasted our upgrades on a pair of 8x. Missing a lot of basic functions and apps, which I could deal with, but then stopped receiving texts, missing calls and random rebooting. I'm now back to my Inc 2 until I can afford to buy a used phone. Very bitter about the whole deal
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Reasons to want a 8x
1. Its a beautiful phone.
2. Very well made.
3. Screen is awesome.
4. Camera is up there with the 920, in my opinion.
5. WP8 is a great OS. Very fluid and just works.
6. iOS and Android users always moan about the Apps, I have been with WP since the beginning and have never had any problems. Some of the big names may be missing but the alternatives on WP are in my opinion better. I believe its quality over quantity.
7. Many moan about the live tiles being distracting. If they actually use a WP they would know that these tiles stop animating after two minutes of non use so not distracting at all.
Hope these small points help in your decision.

stephboyle127 said:
Reasons to want a 8x
1. Its a beautiful phone.
2. Very well made.
3. Screen is awesome.
4. Camera is up there with the 920, in my opinion.
5. WP8 is a great OS. Very fluid and just works.
6. iOS and Android users always moan about the Apps, I have been with WP since the beginning and have never had any problems. Some of the big names may be missing but the alternatives on WP are in my opinion better. I believe its quality over quantity.
7. Many moan about the live tiles being distracting. If they actually use a WP they would know that these tiles stop animating after two minutes of non use so not distracting at all.
Hope these small points help in your decision.
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Thanks, I know, it have a beautiful design, i'm afreid about the apps, and the personalization, i have the flash maniac syndrome , but, i'm considering it, because, i'll usually don't play games on phone, my use is, send sms some calls, music (very important) photo, and when bored going to Facbook,
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Its a smooth phone. Me and my wife wasted our upgrades on a pair of 8x. Missing a lot of basic functions and apps, which I could deal with, but then stopped receiving texts, missing calls and random rebooting. I'm now back to my Inc 2 until I can afford to buy a used phone. Very bitter about the whole deal
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Maybe is better if you sell it, to recover some money.

Ease of use. Fluid system, reduced dependence.on apps, elegant design, OS quality (texts, emails, cloud integration) Xbox connectivity.
Now, flashing my old android several times, I was worried about that as well. But this phone, I honestly don't want to flash!
I was also worried about the lack of customization, but these live tiles and just the whole set up just seems to work!
There are some apps that you may miss, but outside of Alarm Clock Extreme, I have found I don't miss anything, or.found I don't ned it after all.
Easiest for me to say is that this phone just works, really well.
Sent from my wicked sexy HTC 8X windows phone using Board Express

jerrya said:
Ease of use. Fluid system, reduced dependence.on apps, elegant design, OS quality (texts, emails, cloud integration) Xbox connectivity.
Now, flashing my old android several times, I was worried about that as well. But this phone, I honestly don't want to flash!
I was also worried about the lack of customization, but these live tiles and just the whole set up just seems to work!
There are some apps that you may miss, but outside of Alarm Clock Extreme, I have found I don't miss anything, or.found I don't ned it after all.
Easiest for me to say is that this phone just works, really well.
Sent from my wicked sexy HTC 8X windows phone using Board Express
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Thanks.
To all: can someone here on the forum give me a link to a international online shop where to found a 8x at best price?

Can't help here. I paid 33 for mine, but that's with a new 2 year contract. I'm sure someone can help here.
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Design
I've been a long user of HTC ever since android. Before I loved the SE phones (in the time each phone came with its own OS)
It depends what you want to do with this phone, yet I found ALOT of problems with it and reverted to my old phone even though I like the phone physically less. (HTC Desire HD)
PRO:
* Very nice design, feels just right and light
* Pretty interface
* High quality
* Top notch technology
CONS:
* Connectivity is bad - all applications are "loading... loading..." you'll find yourself waiting alot (no issue with Wifi or 3G)
* Screens are often out of sync and reload...
* No USB drive (this means, you can't plug the phone in your car to listen to music)
* No decent navigation software
* The music application is confusing - where do you "play all" ?
* All screens sortof look the same - it might be a pro as all your social networks are seemlessly put together - yet it gets boring as all looks the same. It's not an engaging experience.
* No Sender or caller block
* No sync SMS/MMS with gmail
* No "Save MMS"
* Gmail application is rediculiously slow in incomplete
* The "cloud" and sync options seem scattered. There hasn't been a clear place where I could understand what is synced and how
* How much I would love to use the NFC - yet the software is a bunch of scatterbrainedness
* No settings button
* Personalisation is limited to changing the base color - which is from a picklist (not a colorwheel)
* Typing takes more effort as typing on the HTC Desire HD (more spelling mistakes - less well touch-prediction)
I really love how the phone feels in the hand and the design - I'm in love with it. But the software has been so annoying and breaking my flow I'm back to my old phone and selling (or hoping for improvements) this one.

Just thought I'd add my comments. I've been an Android fan for many years, but I really don't regret my choice of switching to the 8X.
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* Connectivity is bad - all applications are "loading... loading..." you'll find yourself waiting alot (no issue with Wifi or 3G)
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Never had that problem myself. On 4G+ and Wifi.
Tivl82 said:
* No USB drive (this means, you can't plug the phone in your car to listen to music)
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Neither does the iPhone, the Android, and most major phones. They're all MTP now.
Tivl82 said:
* No decent navigation software
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Nokia Drive.
Tivl82 said:
* The music application is confusing - where do you "play all" ?
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When you launch the Music app, at the bottom, there's a play button. That plays all of your music.
Tivl82 said:
* All screens sortof look the same - it might be a pro as all your social networks are seemlessly put together - yet it gets boring as all looks the same. It's not an engaging experience.
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It is the Metro look. I much prefer that everything looks the same than every app you download has it's own look. Just look at Android, a lot of apps doesn't really look good, weird icons, colors, etc.
Tivl82 said:
* No Sender or caller block
* No sync SMS/MMS with gmail
* No "Save MMS"
* Gmail application is rediculiously slow in incomplete
* The "cloud" and sync options seem scattered. There hasn't been a clear place where I could understand what is synced and how
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I do agree that most of the cloud syncing is a bit weird and incomplete. The problem is that Google needs to realize that there's a potential on WP8 and develop apps for it.
Personally, overall, I love that phone. It's, without a doubt, the fastest phone I've ever used. Even if the specs are slower than a lot of high-end phones out there, the software is just so much faster.

At the and i bought it, it' ok, but wp8 is missing a lot of things, one of that when i go to music, there's no way to find a single song by typing the name of it, really?

htctouchelfin said:
At the and i bought it, it' ok, but wp8 is missing a lot of things, one of that when i go to music, there's no way to find a single song by typing the name of it, really?
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yes, there are some basic elements missing, however, if you tap on the little squares at the top of each section, it brings up a way to quickly go to a section alphabetically. Hope that helps.
And don't give up on the phone whenever you have a problem, ask and there are a lot of people who can help you out!
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To find a single song.
1. Go into media
2. Select music.
3. Swipe right to songs.
4. Then just press letter of song name.
I know its not the quickest, but also not that hard.

stephboyle127 said:
To find a single song.
1. Go into media
2. Select music.
3. Swipe right to songs.
4. Then just press letter of song name.
I know its not the quickest, but also not that hard.
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Not what i was searching for but is ok thanks not dlna in wp8? is there a possibility to have it soon? in next realese maybe

tempted to get an 8X as a potential replacement if/when my S3 suffers the SDS fate. the thing that ticks me off is the fact that the 8S has a micro SD slot and the 8X doesn't.
removable battery is not so bad but i do feel that 16gb isn't a whole lot for a phone nowadays....especially since my S3 has 16 + a 64gb sd card. i could live with 32gb if they every offered it.
EDIT : i have used WP 7.5 before in the past and i like the (formally known as "metro") UI and really like it because it was different to android and iOS at the time.