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I have spent the past 2 days trying to root my phone following the steps in the "theunlockr" guide for the MyTouch 3G 1.2.
I have had zero luck moving past the 2nd step. I keep getting the "Wrong model ID" error, and after refollowing the steps to create the goldcard numerous (10 at least, on 3 different computers, 2 running Windows 7, 1 XP, and also with 3 sepperate memory cards), I have gotten nowhere. If anybody has anything to add that I might be missing, I would be very thankful.
The unlocke guide bricked my device his sappimg is apparently outdated , I would recommend using the one on here. Also the goldcard that worked for me was a 2gb PNY. I got it at best buy.
Are you making sure to copy the number right? And have you watched his video? The video helps alot.
i watched the video, and made sure numerous times that the number was correct. i did read somewhere that the sappimg he was using was incorrect, but while trying to find the correct one, every link i found lead right back to the same one that he had posted.
also, where would i find the MyTouch 3G 1.2 sappimg file that you are talking about?
Here is the sappimg. You need, and remember if something does brick I'm not responsible, I'm just provided links hahaha.
Wait nevermind it says since I'm a new user I can't post links yet. Have somewhere I can send it to? Email?
Also don't download the recovery he has on his site (unlockr). Amon ra has posted a NEW version which is 1.7
yet the guide on this site says to use version '1.5.2G sapphire' just google search it. And remember make sure to download the one for 32a and that it says 'G' or else your screwed. And you can get the stock rom from this site too. Il see if I can find the link
Also Sorry for late replies. Typing on an iPod
Just sent it to you by email.
The one used to create your account on here.
Subject: "sappimg file download "
found that just a little before you sent it, and it also did not work. I'm going to look at work tomorrow and see if I can find a 2Gb Kingston card, since that seems to be the one that everyone has the best luck with (all 3 of the ones i tried are sandisk)
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found that just a little before you sent it, and it also did not work. I'm going to look at work tomorrow and see if I can find a 2Gb Kingston card, since that seems to be the one that everyone has the best luck with (all 3 of the ones i tried are sandisk)
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I think there lies the problem. I tried 2 different Sandisk cards and they didn't work, I switched to a 2GB Transcend card and it worked. Good look with rooting.
best buy used to carry kingstons, they dont anymore.
and when i tried a sandisk...same thing,,...didnt work.
what worked for me was a 2gig PNY from best buy.
BUT i did see a 2gig kingston at the tmobile store.
Walmart.com has 2GB Kingston for 7.88 (or 8.88, can't remember, plus I get 10% off for working there), but we do not carry them in my store. bought a PNY 2GB and going to try that first, hopefully it works.
well, the PNY 2GB card did not work, so now I get to attempt to find a Kingston 2GB card...
Sorry about the news. its weird certain cards work for some and not for others.
and yeah i remember checking walmart for a kingston. you have them online?
also when the guide says to copy 00000000-00000170.
you do copy the whole 00000170 line? and not just a small part of it?
just asking because i made that ^mistake^ when i first tried
AND-- when i thought my gold card wasnt working because it said "no sappimg.zip-not found, cannot load"
i decided to let it site after it finished THEN something else popped up saying "would you like to update?"
i guees it found it after it failed to.
and a Kingston card is a no go... I couldn't possibly follow the steps any closer. my device is recognized in cmd... i copy the code down, use the reverser, then use that code to get my goldcard sent to my e-mail. only possible thing that i can think of is that when I get the goldcard e-mail, it says "Here is your G1 goldcard". now, I do not have a G1, however, there are other people who have used the same website/method (learned by reading the comments) with their mytouch 1.2, and they didn't have any issues rooting their phones. Honestly, does anybody have any idea what I am doing wrong? as far as I can tell everything is working, but i keep getting the stupid "Model ID Incorrect!" error.
Branden10 said:
Sorry about the news. its weird certain cards work for some and not for others.
and yeah i remember checking walmart for a kingston. you have them online?
also when the guide says to copy 00000000-00000170.
you do copy the whole 00000170 line? and not just a small part of it?
just asking because i made that ^mistake^ when i first tried
AND-- when i thought my gold card wasnt working because it said "no sappimg.zip-not found, cannot load"
i decided to let it site after it finished THEN something else popped up saying "would you like to update?"
i guees it found it after it failed to.
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i was copying the whole 00000170 line, including the little section on the far right with the ".........."
im out of clue. except im guessing it also replaced the first two numbers zeros? or it didnt and you replaced them yourself?
Wait okay try this. might work! i hope it does. this helped me. last ditch effort.
okay Recreate the goldcard and put it into the phone when finished, plug phone into USB, make sure USB debugging is ON. next at the top where your notifications show up . pull it down the notification screen., now click on the thing saying your connected through USB, Should prompt you to "mount" your sd card. click "mount".
your device will now be recognized as a removabkle disk. find which removable disk it is, (for me it was disk G) now click on the removable disk (which is really your sd card) and copy/paste the sappimg. onto the Remov. disk. DO NOT place in any folders.
the first 2 digits were automatically replaced for me when it reversed.
ok, so im not really sure why exactly, but i guess waiting a few days allowed the sappimg to work, even when using the damn 512MB Sandisk card I had sitting around. i ran it through the process of running the sappimg update, and have stopped right there for now. not really sure where to go from there.
I'm looking to be able to run 2.1 on my phone, and the ROM I'm thinking to go with is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=673394. Now, me being a complete noob and not knowing all the lingo and whatnot, I am assuming that the ROM is basically, in the end, the version of Android, and the features that it has that I choose to run (correct me if im wrong). Now, since I am looking to be able to run Android 2.1, CyanogenMod 5.0.7-Stable Eclair 2.1 is the route I want to go (and constant updates are nice). According to the description, it is made for the 3.22 series radio. on my fastboot screen, my radio version is 3.22.20.17. Is it still necessary to flash the radio since it already says its a 3.22 series? My guess is yes, and that I have to make sure it is a 3.22 radio, otherwise the rom will not work, but I want to be 100% sure. not trying to brick my phone, don't think I can handle firing up the old 2008 Sidekick again.
P.S.
at this point, do I still need to use the 512MB Sandisk (Gold Card), or do I still need to use it until the radio/SPL are flashed and the new recovery is in place? How about when I install the ROM? does the ROM load off of the memory card when you start your phone (therefore needing to be on the memory card I choose to use as my normal, everyday use memory card), or does it save it into the system until you follow the steps to change the ROM you are running (if you choose to)
SUCCESS!!
I guess what I was doing wrong was it was not a Friday? not really sure to be honest. I gave up on following the process that I was using for the gold card and instead found a post in one of the comments for a ROM about a program that does basically everything for you, without having to open multiple webpages and stuff (GoldCardTool.cab). pretty straight forward (just read the readme in the .zip file).
I then was able to flash my radio, hboot, and recovery. loaded up the Amon_RA recovery tool, loaded in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=673503 ([ROM][MT3G 1.2/LE Fender] CR_Slide2G1_v1 [come get your daily driver]. After approx 10-15 mins of loading, I am now back at my home screen.
Now the fun begins... reinstalling/setting up some of the key apps i was using!
Hi Guys,
I am totally hassled no end due to endless reboot of my phone due to using an Transcend 32gb class 10 card. I need some inputs to resolve this if anyone can advise of.
Mine is an sys version. 55.28.37.MB865.AsiaRetail.en.03 with 2.3.6 with baseband version 2012-03-28 off.Bld UnRoooted.
The issue is the phone works fine with this card in all respects until in case phone is restarted or powered off & on.
What follows next is the phone starts up normally & then after a while it restarts again & this goes on and on. I have tried all methods, pulling out the battery and waiting & then starting off, starting the phone without the card wherein phone remains stable & normal & then inserting the card & the same issue of restarting happens after a while, putting the phone to sleep & then inserting the card, pulling out the card without unmounting etc etc. Also I have observed by pulling out the card & then putting it back in, storage setting shows the card as total space as 29.23gb but when I click unmount, it shows in progress but then again shows option for unmount but at the same time card apps are not available.
Finally, I cannot recall at which point of time & due to which action the phone accepts the card and functions normally. Is there a fix from Transcend for this 32gb microSDHC class 10 card in terms of formatting the card with their software or would there be a fix from Motorola in the upcoming ICS update?? More importantly, does anybody know any trick of getting the card to be accepted by the phone because as I mentioned once the phone normally accepts it, it works without a hitch.
Thanks.
RAD7 said:
Hi Guys,
I am totally hassled no end due to endless reboot of my phone due to using an Transcend 32gb class 10 card. I need some inputs to resolve this if anyone can advise of.
Mine is an sys version. 55.28.37.MB865.AsiaRetail.en.03 with 2.3.6 with baseband version 2012-03-28 off.Bld UnRoooted.
The issue is the phone works fine with this card in all respects until in case phone is restarted or powered off & on.
What follows next is the phone starts up normally & then after a while it restarts again & this goes on and on. I have tried all methods, pulling out the battery and waiting & then starting off, starting the phone without the card wherein phone remains stable & normal & then inserting the card & the same issue of restarting happens after a while, putting the phone to sleep & then inserting the card, pulling out the card without unmounting etc etc. Also I have observed by pulling out the card & then putting it back in, storage setting shows the card as total space as 29.23gb but when I click unmount, it shows in progress but then again shows option for unmount but at the same time card apps are not available.
Finally, I cannot recall at which point of time & due to which action the phone accepts the card and functions normally. Is there a fix from Transcend for this 32gb microSDHC class 10 card in terms of formatting the card with their software or would there be a fix from Motorola in the upcoming ICS update?? More importantly, does anybody know any trick of getting the card to be accepted by the phone because as I mentioned once the phone normally accepts it, it works without a hitch.
Thanks.
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The Atrix 2 HAS ISSUES WITH CLASS 10 MEMORY CARDS. Class 6 or less works fine. There are plethora of threads on this topic, please search before posting.
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RAD7 said:
Hi Guys,
I am totally hassled no end due to endless reboot of my phone due to using an Transcend 32gb class 10 card. I need some inputs to resolve this if anyone can advise of. ...
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It is a known issue. But still there's hope, you can try selecting a higher vsel to see if that helps driving the card. Higher capacity, higher class demands higher voltage. But no guarantee it'll work, rather you may end up charging more often. An app like "SetVsel" may be able to do this, but you'll have to root your phone first.
techsavvy.jaz said:
The Atrix 2 HAS ISSUES WITH CLASS 10 MEMORY CARDS. Class 6 or less works fine. There are plethora of threads on this topic, please search before posting.
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@.jaz... I am well aware of the 32gb class 10 issues & one of them on which I had posted much earlier was "Known working SD cards" & my quote as below from the earlier thread atop the original post
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Transcend 32gb Class 10 works fine. Moto support chat told me up to 32gb is supported but class 10 is not recommended & class 6 is fine but I believe 32gb class 6 is not available at all & hence I purchased 32gb class 10 and with so many apps, music, 1080p vids & 8megs pics I think 32gb is essential to keep it all together. Just keep backups at all times!
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As I stated the card works fine endlessly unless if due to battery complete discharge phone is switched off or if user restarts the phone then the issue of booting normally occurs and thereon after a while phone reboots and this is endless. Here my query was I am unable to pinpoint by which action or at what point of time the phone reaccepts the card working normally again & if any user has any helpful inputs worth a shot like what Kousik suggested. Also if anybody knows if Transcend or Motorola have some patches for this as it is already proven the card words fine.
kousik said:
It is a known issue. But still there's hope, you can try selecting a higher vsel to see if that helps driving the card. Higher capacity, higher class demands higher voltage. But no guarantee it'll work, rather you may end up charging more often. An app like "SetVsel" may be able to do this, but you'll have to root your phone first.
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@Kousik.. Thanks but I prefer being unrooted until Motorola releases the official ICS update then I will join the bandwagon. Thanks for the suggestion though.
techsavvy.jaz said:
The Atrix 2 HAS ISSUES WITH CLASS 10 MEMORY CARDS. Class 6 or less works fine. There are plethora of threads on this topic, please search before posting.
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Why do we have to keep seeing threads like this pop up? Its a known issue, its BEEN a known issue, and the solution to your "reboot woes" regarding your class 10 SD card is, are you ready...?
Don't use a class 10 SD card!
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Apex_Strider said:
Why do we have to keep seeing threads like this pop up? Its a known issue, its BEEN a known issue, and the solution to your "reboot woes" regarding your class 10 SD card is, are you ready...?
Don't use a class 10 SD card!
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@ Apex... Nobody is forcing threads upon "You"..if you view & feel, "not again", then you can just skip it.
As I already clarified, I have looked up this issue much before even buying the card directly checking with Moto directly wherein they did confirm 32 gb is compatible but at no point they advised me categorically to desist buying Class 10. The only reason as I once again state since I believe you are taking a view that an old issue is being revisited, is that for almost three months now the card has been functioning fine. I am just trying to get an handle on what particular action or point of time causes the phone to accept the card & function normally. I repeat, as far as phone does not get switched off, this card works without any glitches and then even after the constant rebooting at one point it does reaccept & functions normally. Kousik had one suggestion, could there be any other like, formatting a card from the pc or from the phone itself, not very sure of "NTFS" or "FAT" formats, Transcend has a special format program as well. If any senior members know that if this could be addressed in ICS. It is very generalised view Class 10 - end of story. Let's have some fresh inputs like how I have explained my experience.
RAD7 said:
@ Apex... Nobody is forcing threads upon "You"..if you view & feel, "not again", then you can just skip it.
As I already clarified, I have looked up this issue much before even buying the card directly checking with Moto directly wherein they did confirm 32 gb is compatible but at no point they advised me categorically to desist buying Class 10. The only reason as I once again state since I believe you are taking a view that an old issue is being revisited, is that for almost three months now the card has been functioning fine. I am just trying to get an handle on what particular action or point of time causes the phone to accept the card & function normally. I repeat, as far as phone does not get switched off, this card works without any glitches and then even after the constant rebooting at one point it does reaccept & functions normally. Kousik had one suggestion, could there be any other like, formatting a card from the pc or from the phone itself, not very sure of "NTFS" or "FAT" formats, Transcend has a special format program as well. If any senior members know that if this could be addressed in ICS. It is very generalised view Class 10 - end of story. Let's have some fresh inputs like how I have explained my experience.
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What you are failing to see here, is that some of us have now had this phone for over 10 months now and seen it all. I can tell you this is not a new issue at all. Try formatting your card from within the phone itself under setting--> storage. It will function just fine for a period of time, and then at some point it will stop functioning again. This is completely normal behavior. Go buy a class 6 32GB card and you will NOT have this issue. Motorola is a bunch of morons, and I would not trust one thing they tell you.
RAD7 said:
@ Apex... Nobody is forcing threads upon "You"..if you view & feel, "not again", then you can just skip it.
As I already clarified, I have looked up this issue much before even buying the card directly checking with Moto directly wherein they did confirm 32 gb is compatible but at no point they advised me categorically to desist buying Class 10. The only reason as I once again state since I believe you are taking a view that an old issue is being revisited, is that for almost three months now the card has been functioning fine. I am just trying to get an handle on what particular action or point of time causes the phone to accept the card & function normally. I repeat, as far as phone does not get switched off, this card works without any glitches and then even after the constant rebooting at one point it does reaccept & functions normally. Kousik had one suggestion, could there be any other like, formatting a card from the pc or from the phone itself, not very sure of "NTFS" or "FAT" formats, Transcend has a special format program as well. If any senior members know that if this could be addressed in ICS. It is very generalised view Class 10 - end of story. Let's have some fresh inputs like how I have explained my experience.
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The SDHC class 10 problem is not limited to the Atrix 2 or motorola. It is a generic problem with google/android and class 10. Unless rooted, hemorrhoid has a nervous breakdown with NFTS, forcing the use of FAT32 or exFat.
Don't want to repeat myself or continually repeat the same post from Patriot but they provided some very useful information acknowledging a problem with hemorrhoid OS and 32GB class 10 cards and suggested a temporary fix of performing a full format on a Windows PC in FAT32 with a 32kb allocation size.
A copy of the Patriot reply can be found on the April 11, 2011 review currently on this page: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=(keywords)&Page=6
goodgulf said:
The SDHC class 10 problem is not limited to the Atrix 2 or motorola. It is a generic problem with google/android and class 10. Unless rooted, hemorrhoid has a nervous breakdown with NFTS, forcing the use of FAT32 or exFat.
Don't want to repeat myself or continually repeat the same post from Patriot but they provided some very useful information acknowledging a problem with hemorrhoid OS and 32GB class 10 cards and suggested a temporary fix of performing a full format on a Windows PC in FAT32 with a 32kb allocation size.
A copy of the Patriot reply can be found on the April 11, 2011 review currently on this page: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=(keywords)&Page=6
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You sound like an immature child calling Android "hemorrhoid OS".
Please stop doing that, and call it Android as is should be.
Thank you!
RAD7 said:
@.jaz... I am well aware of the 32gb class 10 issues & one of them on which I had posted much earlier was "Known working SD cards" & my quote as below from the earlier thread atop the original post
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Transcend 32gb Class 10 works fine. Moto support chat told me up to 32gb is supported but class 10 is not recommended & class 6 is fine but I believe 32gb class 6 is not available at all & hence I purchased 32gb class 10 and with so many apps, music, 1080p vids & 8megs pics I think 32gb is essential to keep it all together. Just keep backups at all times!
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As I stated the card works fine endlessly unless if due to battery complete discharge phone is switched off or if user restarts the phone then the issue of booting normally occurs and thereon after a while phone reboots and this is endless. Here my query was I am unable to pinpoint by which action or at what point of time the phone reaccepts the card working normally again & if any user has any helpful inputs worth a shot like what Kousik suggested. Also if anybody knows if Transcend or Motorola have some patches for this as it is already proven the card words fine.
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I know you from previous posts.. thats exactly why i was more surprised to see this post from you. And from the same thread that you've mentioned, there's post that kingmax class 10 is working fine.. i wonder it was you who posted it
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Try increasing the sd cache to 3 or 4 mb
Get a scripter from market and schedule this to run on startup you can also use terminal emulator.
echo "3072" > /sys/devices/virtual/bdi/179:0/read_ahead_kb
Also sometimes even a brand new momory cards are corrupted so connect it to a pc and perform full format.
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What you are failing to see here, is that some of us have now had this phone for over 10 months now and seen it all. I can tell you this is not a new issue at all. Try formatting your card from within the phone itself under setting--> storage. It will function just fine for a period of time, and then at some point it will stop functioning again. This is completely normal behavior. Go buy a class 6 32GB card and you will NOT have this issue. Motorola is a bunch of morons, and I would not trust one thing they tell you.
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At least it is good to see unlike some fellow members who resort to Caps,bold (which is a no brainer -bad etiquette) have a way of putting things across. Moto personnel yes, learnt it the hard way & the whole idea before purchase was to confirm. I never said this was a new issue and fully agree and aware of reams of info on this topic but if you yet see, still many users are yet coming up with suggestions,tips within this thread itself (thank you all Getting a 32gb Class 4 (now here I have never seen a class 6 32GB, would like to see a link for one though) & moving on is simplest solution. But I pumped in good money besides the phone on this card and if there is no other way, then would like to know for info's sake on a technical front what causes this issue. No one yet answered my question if they are aware of if upcoming ICS can resolve this. Anyways, appreciate your thoughts.
Now if I buy a 32gb class 4 card what would be the ideal way I can have a exact replica of my existing card?
1) Would I need to just Copy the whole card as is in to a pc folder the paste the same on to the new card??
2) or is it a better idea to redownload all apps once again? I have back up on the card for all my apps from "Apps2SD" but then I believe it's backs up all version of any single app then how should I go about it restoring apps on to the new card?
3) Before using the card for the first time for optimum performance is it required to format the card from within the phone or from PC using a tool like "Autoformat".exe (also what's the deal on NTFS,FAT formats, which one is better and how to go about it?)
Thanks
RAD7 said:
At least it is good to see unlike some fellow members who resort to Caps,bold (which is a no brainer -bad etiquette) have a way of putting things across. Moto personnel yes, learnt it the hard way & the whole idea before purchase was to confirm. I never said this was a new issue and fully agree and aware of reams of info on this topic but if you yet see, still many users are yet coming up with suggestions,tips within this thread itself (thank you all Getting a 32gb Class 4 (now here I have never seen a class 6 32GB, would like to see a link for one though) & moving on is simplest solution. But I pumped in good money besides the phone on this card and if there is no other way, then would like to know for info's sake on a technical front what causes this issue. No one yet answered my question if they are aware of if upcoming ICS can resolve this. Anyways, appreciate your thoughts.
Now if I buy a 32gb class 4 card what would be the ideal way I can have a exact replica of my existing card?
1) Would I need to just Copy the whole card as is in to a pc folder the paste the same on to the new card??
2) or is it a better idea to redownload all apps once again? I have back up on the card for all my apps from "Apps2SD" but then I believe it's backs up all version of any single app then how should I go about it restoring apps on to the new card?
3) Before using the card for the first time for optimum performance is it required to format the card from within the phone or from PC using a tool like "Autoformat".exe (also what's the deal on NTFS,FAT formats, which one is better and how to go about it?)
Thanks
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What bugged me the most and prompted me to use the caps lock was, a relatively known member posted this thing, and besides, if you asked about the work arounds or technical things, me being a not-so-tech-guy wouldn't have jumped on to this, would have left it to the more senior members. It was plain "why isnt' a class 10 mem card working with A2?" thread.
and hey I too get a lot of stick, and i completely understand, it's just to keep the forums clean.
techsavvy.jaz said:
What bugged me the most and prompted me to use the caps lock was, a relatively known member posted this thing, and besides, if you asked about the work arounds or technical things, me being a not-so-tech-guy wouldn't have jumped on to this, would have left it to the more senior members. It was plain "why isnt' a class 10 mem card working with A2?" thread.
and hey I too get a lot of stick, and i completely understand, it's just to keep the forums clean.[/QUOTE
It was not plain "Class 10 card not working with A2", it was that adding on to it (from the original post itself) known causes,workarounds, additional inputs etc..I am all for keeping the forum clean as well but hey nobody is infallible..I have seen so many posts from most senior members too wherein they humbly submit their inputs to newbies without much offence on simple issues. I am just exasperated now that due to certain view points I am having to write lengthy lines rather than sticking to technical queries & hope this one's the end to it, I'd rather channel my energies for providing any help I can be of.
I would still appreciate inputs from fellow members on app transfer options list I have put forth. Thanks.
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techsavvy.jaz said:
What bugged me the most and prompted me to use the caps lock was, a relatively known member posted this thing, and besides, if you asked about the work arounds or technical things, me being a not-so-tech-guy wouldn't have jumped on to this, would have left it to the more senior members. It was plain "why isnt' a class 10 mem card working with A2?" thread.
and hey I too get a lot of stick, and i completely understand, it's just to keep the forums clean.
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Precisely why I posted to this. Point being: its been previously posted, discussed (at length) and known for quite some time that this is a problem with the ATRIX 2. We don't need one or three or twelve threads on the same topic. No one will regard your credibility highly (but rather your lack thereof) if you don't follow forum rules and have respect for keeping it clean and organized. So, again, a class 10 SD card may work for a given time, but you WILL have issues with it sooner or later. There's no "ifs", "ands" or "buts" about it, so come to terms with it. Your questions and/or concerns on this topic could have -and should have- been posted in the other topic-related thread.
The reason behind my "bad etiquette" as you say (passive aggressively, I might add -real mature) was to get it through your head that the class 10's will not work with this phone. This is why other members chimed in with some frustration, because we know it won't work with these phones. Do I know exactly why it doesn't work? No, and quite frankly I don't care. The SD card problems found over class 6 is completely innocuous when knowing the solution: don't buy one! :banghead: If you feel like you just have to determine the reason it won't work, ask in the already existing thread(s). Hell, just Google it or find out on your own the answers, maybe then you'll get some credibility.
And just a little reminder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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RAD7 said:
At least it is good to see unlike some fellow members who resort to Caps,bold (which is a no brainer -bad etiquette) have a way of putting things across. Moto personnel yes, learnt it the hard way & the whole idea before purchase was to confirm. I never said this was a new issue and fully agree and aware of reams of info on this topic but if you yet see, still many users are yet coming up with suggestions,tips within this thread itself (thank you all Getting a 32gb Class 4 (now here I have never seen a class 6 32GB, would like to see a link for one though) & moving on is simplest solution. But I pumped in good money besides the phone on this card and if there is no other way, then would like to know for info's sake on a technical front what causes this issue. No one yet answered my question if they are aware of if upcoming ICS can resolve this. Anyways, appreciate your thoughts.
Now if I buy a 32gb class 4 card what would be the ideal way I can have a exact replica of my existing card?
1) Would I need to just Copy the whole card as is in to a pc folder the paste the same on to the new card??
2) or is it a better idea to redownload all apps once again? I have back up on the card for all my apps from "Apps2SD" but then I believe it's backs up all version of any single app then how should I go about it restoring apps on to the new card?
3) Before using the card for the first time for optimum performance is it required to format the card from within the phone or from PC using a tool like "Autoformat".exe (also what's the deal on NTFS,FAT formats, which one is better and how to go about it?)
Thanks
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I noticed you mention apps 2 sd, you can not install and run apps on the sdcard with this phone, that is the reason you are having this issue, again that has been pointed out all over this forum.
There is a bug in motorolas implementation of android that causes this. So your best bet is to get that 32Gb class 4 card you mentioned and NOT install ANY apps to it. Infact you MUST disable that in settings.
So far with the ICS leaks we have not seen a fix for this. I am sure moto does not care much about fixing the issue because there is 4GB of internal app storage on the A2.
Also, for future reference do a search and post in an already established thread no matter how old it is. The reason you got such a bad reception is due to the fact that this issue gets coverd weekly around here.
Get a card reader for your pc and copy the data ONLY, not the apps. Using a usb cardreader you should be able to get one that will hold 2 cards and just copy from one to the other.
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Precisely why I posted to this. Point being: its been previously posted, discussed (at length) and known for quite some time that this is a problem with the ATRIX 2. We don't need one or three or twelve threads on the same topic. No one will regard your credibility highly (but rather your lack thereof) if you don't follow forum rules and have respect for keeping it clean and organized. So, again, a class 10 SD card may work for a given time, but you WILL have issues with it sooner or later. There's no "ifs", "ands" or "buts" about it, so come to terms with it. Your questions and/or concerns on this topic could have -and should have- been posted in the other topic-related thread.
The reason behind my "bad etiquette" as you say (passive aggressively, I might add -real mature) was to get it through your head that the class 10's will not work with this phone. This is why other members chimed in with some frustration, because we know it won't work with these phones. Do I know exactly why it doesn't work? No, and quite frankly I don't care. The SD card problems found over class 6 is completely innocuous when knowing the solution: don't buy one! :banghead: If you feel like you just have to determine the reason it won't work, ask in the already existing thread(s). Hell, just Google it or find out on your own the answers, maybe then you'll get some credibility.
And just a little reminder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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On the youtube video, that was the first thing I watched when I joined XDA so I guess might come in handy for noobs who might have missed that & who are reading this now. In case if you missed it, I have been repeatedly acknowledging the fact that I completely realize this is a much talked about topic but I had some other relative add on's in here on which I was expecting some help and you can see members still have some suggestions to offer as varied as changing cache size to some other options, so uh, some people yet opine of some workarounds. In any case, I moved on asking for tips for setting up a new card so I would think it is pretty evident that I am completely in terms of acceptance of the fact that class 10 has an issue. I also mentioned no one is infallible & I am sure you would have had your days too. I don't think any forum encourages caps,bold except for emphasizing something technical & as such it is better best avoided by the senior-est of members I'd say. When you say, you wanted to "get it through my head", I'd have worded it, "I am trying to explain to you here that.." so I guess it's evident who is getting aggressive here & hey like you say "hell" if i wanted to know the reason why it wont work & as you suggest to go google it..yeah then I wouldn't be here in the first place. I'm not sure why you are still subscribed to this thread still though since you feel it's such a no brainer? Cheers!
I ordered a new Sandisk 64GB SDcard but after reading many threads on the topic here, I have a question about the format. From what I've read, in order to have the card recognized by CWM and other custom recoveries, it needs to be in Fat32 format rather than exFAT. Many people have suggested that you can use a Windows based 3rd party software to properly format the card, but I don't have a SDcard reader on my PC so I'm not sure what my options are at this point. I tried searching the forums about posts from people in a similar situation (i.e no card reader on PC) but was unable to find anything. Any suggestions or ideas on what I can do to retain the full 64gb capacity and still be compatible with CWM without having access to a SDcard reader? Thanks very much.
Link to card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171582
Will need to find a PC to format it. It comes ExFat and not only recoveries won't see it but roms/kernels may not see it either. The program is guiformat. Can Google and find it easily. The site is little confusing. Click on the picture of the app and it will give you the download.
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Will need to find a PC to format it. It comes ExFat and not only recoveries won't see it but roms/kernels may not see it either. The program is guiformat. Can Google and find it easily. The site is little confusing. Click on the picture of the app and it will give you the download.
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Thanks very much for the response. I was afraid that would be the case. I honestly don't know anyone who has access to a SDcard reader, so I might have to just end up returning it to Newegg for a 32gb version instead. Thanks again, I sincerely appreciate the info.
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Thanks very much for the response. I was afraid that would be the case. I honestly don't know anyone who has access to a SDcard reader, so I might have to just end up returning it to Newegg for a 32gb version instead. Thanks again, I sincerely appreciate the info.
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32 comes in ExFat also. lol
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32 comes in ExFat also. lol
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Son of a...
I thought these issues were exclusive to just the 64gb variants.
I actually dug around in my basement and found my old PC tower that has a built in 8 in 1 card reader that supports SDcards. If I can find a way to extract it from the old tower and hook it up to my new one, I may yet find a way. Thanks again for the continued help.
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Son of a...
I thought these issues were exclusive to just the 64gb variants.
I actually dug around in my basement and found my old PC tower that has a built in 8 in 1 card reader that supports SDcards. If I can find a way to extract it from the old tower and hook it up to my new one, I may yet find a way. Thanks again for the continued help.
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Yea. Only difference between 32 and 64 is don't need a special program for 32. Windows can do it natively. Good luck.
I realize this question may sound ridiculous, but I figured there was no harm in asking.
Is there any chance I could stick the 64gb card in my old Droid X, connect it to my PC, and then use the program you suggested to format it to FAT32? I guess I was hoping the phone could act like a SDcard reader of sorts for my PC. Thanks again.
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I realize this question may sound ridiculous, but I figured there was no harm in asking.
Is there any chance I could stick the 64gb card in my old Droid X, connect it to my PC, and then use the program you suggested to format it to FAT32? I guess I was hoping the phone could act like a SDcard reader of sorts for my PC. Thanks again.
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I had a droid x but I'm not sure if it handled a 64gb but if it does you should be able to format it the way you want.I bought a $4 usb micro sd card reader for my SanDisk 64gb card and I hooked it up to my pc usb slot and used a partition program and was able to successfully format it to fat32.Have not had one problem with it being recognized by any Rom or kernel, think it gave me 59gb total after it formatted.
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I had a droid x but I'm not sure if it handled a 64gb but if it does you should be able to format it the way you want.I bought a $4 usb micro sd card reader for my SanDisk 64gb card and I hooked it up to my pc usb slot and used a partition program and was able to successfully format it to fat32.Have not had one problem with it being recognized by any Rom or kernel, think it gave me 59gb total after it formatted.
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You hang out at Radio Shack too. I'm looking at one right now. Looks like a midgets thumb. :laugh:
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I had a droid x but I'm not sure if it handled a 64gb but if it does you should be able to format it the way you want.I bought a $4 usb micro sd card reader for my SanDisk 64gb card and I hooked it up to my pc usb slot and used a partition program and was able to successfully format it to fat32.Have not had one problem with it being recognized by any Rom or kernel, think it gave me 59gb total after it formatted.
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Thanks. I had no idea they were that cheap. If the DX idea doesn't work, I'll just stop by my local Microcenter or Best Buy and pick one up. Thanks again.
Edit: Am I correct in assuming the product linked below would do the job? If so, it's only $1.99 so I think i could manage to afford one.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/394761/Micro_SD_Card_Reader
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I realize this question may sound ridiculous, but I figured there was no harm in asking.
Is there any chance I could stick the 64gb card in my old Droid X, connect it to my PC, and then use the program you suggested to format it to FAT32? I guess I was hoping the phone could act like a SDcard reader of sorts for my PC. Thanks again.
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Won't work from phone but go to radio shack and get cheapest one of these you can find. May be able to get with 1GB card. Take pic and show them what you want. Sorry I been busy and didn't think about it. Good call Droid. $12 max.
So I purchased a SDcard reader, hooked it up to my PC, and formatted it with the guiformat program that was recommended earlier in the thread. I set the allocation size to 65536 and left the Quick Format option checked. However, after it finished, both Windows and the S3 only show it as a 32gb card (approximately 27 GB total storage space). Is there another formatting program for Windows or any other ideas you could recommend so I can get the correct storage size (64gb)? Thanks again.
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So I purchased a SDcard reader, hooked it up to my PC, and formatted it with the guiformat program that was recommended earlier in the thread. I set the allocation size to 65536 and left the Quick Format option checked. However, after it finished, both Windows and the S3 only show it as a 32gb card (approximately 27 GB total storage space). Is there another formatting program for Windows or any other ideas you could recommend so I can get the correct storage size (64gb)? Thanks again.
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I tried using a few different programs to format the card to FAT32 but every time it still showed up as a 32gb card. I ordered it directly from Newegg so I don't think the authenticity is an issue, but I have no idea what could've caused this to happen. Regardless, I sincerely appreciate the help I got from the folks in this thread and via PM. Thanks again for your time and effort.
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I tried using a few different programs to format the card to FAT32 but every time it still showed up as a 32gb card. I ordered it directly from Newegg so I don't think the authenticity is an issue, but I have no idea what could've caused this to happen. Regardless, I sincerely appreciate the help I got from the folks in this thread and via PM. Thanks again for your time and effort.
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There's another thread detailing all the issues with exfat 64gb cards here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698672
I encountered the same "hiccup" as you pertaining to the 32 gb issue.
I ended up using a program called EaseUS Partition Master to finally get all back to normal. I wiped my sdxc partition, it did come back with some message that something didn't complete ???, but then I formatted as fat 32, primary partition, and got the entire 64gb back and so far... ( fingers crossed ),.. all seems to be working well.
With the card formatted as exfat, as soon as I got around 8 gb of music, photos, etc.. the card simply would loose its' file structure and just start acting weird. All files would still show up if I pulled the card and put in an sdxc reader on the PC... but my Galaxy S3 never would recover them properly.
This has got to be some kind of "bug" in the phone as you'll see in the other thread this problem is quite common.
For what it's worth.. I seemed to have much better luck transferring large chunks of data with the card in the reader opposed to hooked up while in the phone. ( speeds kept dropping via the phone cable )
Good luck!
Thanks for the info. I actually tried the EaseUS Partition program you referred to, but it still remained at 32gb. I ended up returning the card to Newegg and will just get a 32gb to replace it as I'd rather not have to repeat this process. Thanks again for the useful info. I sincerely appreciate it.
Sure... I vaguely remember I had to try to format as NTFS first for some reason before I got it to properly format with entire 64gb fat 32. I spent countless hours trying to work out all the bugs with this card and exfat. Samsung states the Galaxy S3 phone is compatible with it... but there is definitely an issue with file structure once you start loading it up.
Quick update:
I ended up returning my Sandisk 64GB and replaced it with a G.Skill 32GB (Class 10) that was on sale for $22 from Newegg. Surprisingly, it came already formatted as FAT32 so I didn't have to mess around with it to get it working with CWM and custom kernels. Seems to be working great so far, and is plenty fast, so I'm pretty happy with the end result. I guess it might have been nice to have an extra ~30GB, but I mainly stream all my music/video anyways, so I'll have a tough time even filling up this new card.
Thanks again to everyone who gave me their advice and input on trying to get my first SDcard formatted correctly. Even though I wasn't ultimately successful, I sincerely appreciate everyone's time & effort.
Link to new G.Skill card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231577
Hi,
I would like to know how I can move app data to my SD card.
I understand Samsung have purposely disabled the feature which sucks.
I'm on stock jb at the moment.
Noob instructions would be greatly appreciated
check out my topic i made earlier, the only way to bypass this is to root, i'm still waiting for for a reply to my topic on how to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087934
There is no easy way of doing it you need to have int-d to do it and even then its not an easy solution
Unfortunately its not Samsung but google which has developed the new version in such a way that you cannot move apps one of the reason being their concept that there should be only one memory and hence there is no sd card slots in nexus devices
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There is no easy way of doing it you need to have int-d to do it and even then its not an easy solution
Unfortunately its not Samsung but google which has developed the new version in such a way that you cannot move apps one of the reason being their concept that there should be only one memory and hence there is no sd card slots in nexus devices
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I think I might just return my device then.
11GB is nowhere near enough!
Edit: Definitely returning for a refund.
What's the next best tab to go for?
I only went for the Note 10.1 because there was a great deal on where I saved around £90-£130 ($130-$200)
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I think I might just return my device then.
11GB is nowhere near enough!
Edit: Definitely returning for a refund.
What's the next best tab to go for?
I only went for the Note 10.1 because there was a great deal on where I saved around £90-£130 ($130-$200)
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You could get a 32GB model.
ive done it the zedomax way i have 64gb iternal now downside of this is wen transfering movies from pc to tab takes ages
I wish I had got the 32 gig model now but I wasn't expecting this problem, I just have to manage my space a bit more proactively. As I want to use my 64 gig card with exfat (to store films over 4 gig) I have do clockwork backups to my internal SD and then copy them across to get the space back. This is far from ideal but I have got used to it now.
I found that using my SD card as internal SD slowed my device to much for my liking.
I had a 64 gig sd card in mine and I noticed that recovery mode would not see that 64 gig card which was a real pain when trying to use different roms. I put my 32 gig card back in and everything is good
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You could get a 32GB model.
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32gb version not available in the uk, same for the note 2 unfortunately.
OP hope it's not too late, you may want to check out this guide located here:
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root is required but it's worth it, now the tablet is much useful now.
I have moto atrix 2 and so do my gf.
Her moto is non rooted and ics upgraded also genuine. (She neva lemme tuch her phone ).
And mine is rooted and runs on jb leak(China).
I found that some times her fone's some apps are some times gone.
Yesterday she was playing farm frengy and in morning when she saw app was gone.
Also when i checked one More app was gone. Dat was all in one toolbox.( if other app were fone i don't know coz she doesn't care and i don't keep track).
Thing is apps are lost from fone. It happened some time when i bought my fone , when it was on gb.
I just download all on one toolbox to my gf's fone. Then i off my cell and from recovery menu i wiped cache and restarted her fone .. and guss what farm frengy appeared.
What was that.
Anyone had same problem
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One toolbox? you mean 17 tools app? can't comment on that.
When I was new to XDA & I had posted query regarding 32gb class 10 card, I was lambasted for the fact that it had been covered a zillion times. Basically if it is a class 10 card it has been said since the advent of this device forum that it will cause problems later if not sooner namely in terms of apps mysteriously disappearing etc. I did not have apps missing by themselves ever but my issue was if ever my phone switched off due to battery full drain then it was pure misery wherein the phone would constantly reboot no end & this was when class 10 cards were pretty expensive. Then what I did was formatted the SD card ""on the phone"" & been using the app 'apps2sd' by Sam Lu & it has a functionality wherein it shows apps when installed as a grey 'X' icon for those apps which can be moved to SD but should ideally not be moved & from the very beginning I have always made sure I never move such apps to the SD. Don't ever use apps like 'link2sd' which complicate things on A2 especially. The highlight is for the lambasting that I had got that I have to accept that class 10 card would never work, I have to state till date I am running the very same SD card without any issues whatsoever so.... in any case, follow what I have stated above, may work for you, I use Rom Toolbox Pro but so far I have not tinkered setting to increase catching speed function for SD. Best of luck. Also it had been said that all apps should necessarily be installed to internal phone memory only but I don't do that yet & I'm surviving.
My gfs fone wiz has genuine ics upgraded os.. i haven't touch its software she has 4 gb normal card, i mean no class mentioned but m pretty sure not c10.
What now..??
And thanks for reply sir
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In that case, yet format the SD card on the phone by first backing up personal files to a computer then ensure that SD card is not selected as default storage location and then also never install any apps to SD.
I observed you're all across the boards plagued with multiple problems besides this such as extreme battery drain, no network etc etc, so if you're in warranty ask for a replacement, would bode better for you.
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One toolbox? you mean 17 tools app? can't comment on that.
When I was new to XDA & I had posted query regarding 32gb class 10 card, I was lambasted for the fact that it had been covered a zillion times. Basically if it is a class 10 card it has been said since the advent of this device forum that it will cause problems later if not sooner namely in terms of apps mysteriously disappearing etc. I did not have apps missing by themselves ever but my issue was if ever my phone switched off due to battery full drain then it was pure misery wherein the phone would constantly reboot no end & this was when class 10 cards were pretty expensive. Then what I did was formatted the SD card ""on the phone"" & been using the app 'apps2sd' by Sam Lu & it has a functionality wherein it shows apps when installed as a grey 'X' icon for those apps which can be moved to SD but should ideally not be moved & from the very beginning I have always made sure I never move such apps to the SD. Don't ever use apps like 'link2sd' which complicate things on A2 especially. The highlight is for the lambasting that I had got that I have to accept that class 10 card would never work, I have to state till date I am running the very same SD card without any issues whatsoever so.... in any case, follow what I have stated above, may work for you, I use Rom Toolbox Pro but so far I have not tinkered setting to increase catching speed function for SD. Best of luck. Also it had been said that all apps should necessarily be installed to internal phone memory only but I don't do that yet & I'm surviving.
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the situation with class 10 sdcards depends on your phone, if youre lucky then your phone will support class 10 cards without any issues.. i per se have never tried a class 10 card but my friend with an A2 has and even he doesnt have any problems. I have always used a Class 6, first one a sandisk 16gb one and now using a samsung 32gb. Class 10 cards are expensive than class 6 obviously but class 6 cards are hard to find at the actual price in the market here. i bought mine for a bargain price from a seller on Olx.
As for the apps on sdcard and phone, even i dont install any apps on the sdcard, just games so that even if my phone is connected to the laptop in Mass Storage mode i can still use my apps..
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I observed you're all across the boards plagued with multiple problems besides this such as extreme battery drain, no network etc etc, so if you're in warranty ask for a replacement, would bode better for you.
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Sir battery drain and other problems are occurring in my a2.
App disappearance was in my gf's a2.
I did as u said to her sd card. :thumbup:
And my mobile is just a month old
Now problem about network is only with vodafone sim wiz 32k sim.. so i m going tomorrow to Vodafone store to replace my sim with 64k sim.
Battery drain is still awesome in my fone. On stand by, i m getting 18 to 20 hr backup .
Now its showing 10 hr of uses and battery is 43%.
Can u help me with battery calibration.. ??
I think it would help..??
Thanx again for replying
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