Big Battery diff between using Live Wallpaper and Non? - HTC Inspire 4G

This is almost a rhetorical question, but does the battery drain when using live wall paper that much more then that of just using a standard image? I enjoy the Beautiful Widgets live wall paper because I think its cool the way the elements change. I couldn't really find any information on this.

It does because it takes more power moving it
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XAviierG said:
It does because it takes more power moving it
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a substantial? I was reading that most stock live wall paper stop when they are back-grounded but that cant be said about 3rd party

Some does. But my experience it drained mines
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Set the settings profile for Setcpu for the off screen to 450-500mhz Max and when screen is off,the Max the CPU will run is whatever u set. Makes huge difference
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Set the settings profile for Setcpu for the off screen to 450-500mhz Max and when screen is off,the Max the CPU will run is whatever u set. Makes huge difference
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The lowest amount is 245 for the Rom I`m using, would it be fine to sit it at that or is that too low?

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The lowest amount is 245 for the Rom I`m using, would it be fine to sit it at that or is that too low?
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Uncheck "set at boot".
Set it.
If it fails, it means it doesn't work. Since the change is not permanent (cos set on boot is unchecked), u can play around till u find the best fit.

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Uncheck "set at boot".
Set it.
If it fails, it means it doesn't work. Since the change is not permanent (cos set on boot is unchecked), u can play around till u find the best fit.
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If I had it on set at boot, that will make it perm in the Rom where it cant be changed or something? I never used SetCPU in the past, so I`m still learning it, and most youtube videos just show how to set things.
Setting it to 245 mhz max (245 mhz is the min clockspeed) on screen off can harm it can it?

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If I had it on set at boot, that will make it perm in the Rom where it cant be changed or something? I never used SetCPU in the past, so I`m still learning it, and most youtube videos just show how to set things.
Setting it to 245 mhz max (245 mhz is the min clockspeed) on screen off can harm it can it?
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You want 245 min/max when screen is off. If you use smartass gov it'll do this for you.I personally use interactive though.
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Setcpu is God send, I don't think I can ever live without it.
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This is almost a rhetorical question, but does the battery drain when using live wall paper that much more then that of just using a standard image? I enjoy the Beautiful Widgets live wall paper because I think its cool the way the elements change. I couldn't really find any information on this.
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I was curious about the same thing, so I did some informal testing a few weeks ago. I ran two 5 minutes tests where I let my phone just sit and do nothing at the home screen, one test with a static wallpaper and one test with a live wallpaper, and I used Battery Widget Monitor to compare the battery drain in millivolts. The live wallpaper drained about 50% more power than the static. Of course this doesn't mean your overall battery life will be 50% less, since most of the time the typical user is running an app where the background isn't even visible. But during the times you are on an icon screen/desktop, or swiping between desktops, the drain of a live wallpaper is about 50% higher. I'm sure this number will vary somewhat depending on the complexity of the live wallpaper.

I recently started running a 3rd party live wallpaper (made by Kittehface, I think) and haven't noticed much difference in battery life from when I was using a static wallpaper. The wallpaper should shut down when the screen is off.

I run live wallpaper and don't notice a huge impact on battery performance.

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uhm. not sure if its working or not to underclock for screen off profile
do we need a custom kernel?
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I tried it as i bought it when I had a g1 and the sliders are grayed out.. guess we have to wait for a kernel. Shouldn't be long though LG released the source already..
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squish099 said:
I tried it as i bought it when I had a g1 and the sliders are grayed out.. guess we have to wait for a kernel. Shouldn't be long though LG released the source already..
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that's what I was thinking ... I bought setcpu when I had my mt4g
ugh I can't waot til we can reallt have control over our dual core!
android 2.4 needs to hurry lol
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I was able to use setcpu without an issue for screen off. Are you sure you guys gave root permission?
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I was able to use setcpu without an issue for screen off. Are you sure you guys gave root permission?
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yep... I have profiles set.
but if u can't put scaling on demand then how is it working.
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Correct me if I'm wrong. All scaling does is how the CPU scales itself(to a given formula depending on the profile) for example if using a conservative scale the CPU scales itself by 15mhz depending on the task so if your min is 218 it would go up or down by 15 until it reaches the maximum or min. Since no kernals are available yet for our device it will use the default scaling profile built in. my screen off profile is a Max 218 Min 218 with a priority of 100. Regardless of the scaling profile selected I am forcing the CPU to down clock to that set of perimeters
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Correct me if I'm wrong. All scaling does is how the CPU scales itself(to a given formula depending on the profile) for example if using a conservative scale the CPU scales itself by 15mhz depending on the task so if your min is 218 it would go up or down by 15 until it reaches the maximum or min. Since no kernals are available yet for our device it will use the default scaling profile built in. my screen off profile is a Max 218 Min 218 with a priority of 100. Regardless of the scaling profile selected I am forcing the CPU to down clock to that set of perimeters
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thats how I have mine set up, but usually when I set up profiles woth notifications and I turn the screen I see it switch but I just realized as I'm typing that I only have one profile lol
so
your probably right and I'm lame for npt realizing tjat befpore I posted haha
regardless
thanx for ur replies and input
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I'm using it and it's working great all we need now is a oc kernel
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Correct me if I'm wrong. All scaling does is how the CPU scales itself(to a given formula depending on the profile) for example if using a conservative scale the CPU scales itself by 15mhz depending on the task so if your min is 218 it would go up or down by 15 until it reaches the maximum or min. Since no kernals are available yet for our device it will use the default scaling profile built in. my screen off profile is a Max 218 Min 218 with a priority of 100. Regardless of the scaling profile selected I am forcing the CPU to down clock to that set of perimeters
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You are correct in that CPU scales itself based on the parameters Nvidia gave it. In this particular kernel there is only one governer by default (this is why you cannot alter the governor settings) and it's set to Performance Powersave. The scaling driver used according to the source code is tegra_cpufreq. I haven't dug far enough through the code to figure out what that means but it appears most frequencies are in intervals of 24mhz.
so i've been hesitant to use my setcpu. just wondering what everyone set their profiles to. lol
Overclock? Dualcore! WTF? lol its like ocing my mt4g to 2ghz... Cool to show off but really worth the risk? As well as side effects?
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Overclock? Dualcore! WTF? lol its like ocing my mt4g to 2ghz... Cool to show off but really worth the risk? As well as side effects?
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You know I wanna see minimum 2Ghz Overclock ! I hope is gonna be "2" just because its Dual-core
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so i've been hesitant to use my setcpu. just wondering what everyone set their profiles to. lol
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I only have one profile which is the screen off profile
Max : 218
Min : 218
Priority 100
thats all I have ever used, been getting really great battery went from 11am - 4am on a single charge and could of gone further but I needed to sleep
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I only have one profile which is the screen off profile
Max : 218
Min : 218
Priority 100
thats all I have ever used, been getting really great battery went from 11am - 4am on a single charge and could of gone further but I needed to sleep
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good to know! thanks.
I dont know why, but my SetCpu comes to the main screen and giving me option to what phone to choose.. then it Force Closes each time.
Cant seem to do anything...
Any help?
Are you positive your rooted?
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Yes positive am rooted. I used and use titanium backup and terminal.
Does any One have the link to the free copy of the app on this site, maybe can try that before contacting the developer for support.
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I dont know why, but my SetCpu comes to the main screen and giving me option to what phone to choose.. then it Force Closes each time.
Cant seem to do anything...
Any help?
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I would attempt three things before seeking any further escalation. First I would try running fix permissions using rom manager /cwm if that doesn't work delete the apk using root explorer and reinstall the software if that doesn't work create a nand backup of your device and start from scratch. Setcpu should work with the tegra2 plus the developer you reach out to regarding this will ask you to do this regardless.
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Ok when you guys first start SetCpu (after clean install), what screen do you guys get? And what selection do you make?
When i first boot the phone I have a whole bunch of options to select on which device I use. The first one should be tegra2.

Battery Calibration

Didn't see this posted yet in the apps section, there is an app which helps in calibrating your battery. The app is located in the market and is created by an XDA member all credit goes to him. You must be rooted for this app to have an effect, I can vouche for this app as I have used both on the EVO and now on the G2X I have experienced great battery life after using this in conjunction with setcpu.
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Didn't see this posted yet in the apps section, there is an app which helps in calibrating your battery. The app is located in the market and is created by an XDA member all credit goes to him. You must be rooted for this app to have an effect, I can vouche for this app as I have used both on the EVO and now on the G2X I have experienced great battery life after using this in conjunction with setcpu.
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and its called..........
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and its called..........
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Says it right in the thread title
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that,setcpu and juice defender= hollycowmybatterylastsforever.
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that,setcpu and juice defender= hollycowmybatterylastsforever.
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Out of curiosity, what are people using for the settings on SetCPU (ie max and max). Also, I noticed the "Scaling" option is grayed out on my G2x over my old Nexus One. Does the scaling option require a custom kernel I am guessing? Thanks.
Also, What settings are you guys using for Juicedefender?
I guess that a good reason to root.
I guess that a good reason to root. I want to get as much battery life as i can get.
I am new to posting but been a long time reader.
waiting for my new phone to get here tommorrow and I am actually off from work tommorrow so I have a long time to get to know my new phone.
Upgrading from a rooted G1
Does it matter if the phone is on or off when you charge it to full the second time?
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Out of curiosity, what are people using for the settings on SetCPU (ie max and max). Also, I noticed the "Scaling" option is grayed out on my G2x over my old Nexus One. Does the scaling option require a custom kernel I am guessing? Thanks.
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All scaling does is how the CPU scales itself(to a given formula depending on the profile) for example if using a conservative scale the CPU scales itself by 15mhz depending on the task so if your min is 218 it would go up or down by 15 until it reaches the maximum or min. Since no kernals are available yet for our device it will use the default scaling profile built in. my screen off profile is a Max 218 Min 218 with a priority of 100. Regardless of the scaling profile selected I am forcing the CPU to down clock to that set of perimeters
So what I use for SetCPU is
Profile : Screen off
Max 218
Min 218
Priority 100
You dont get lag when unlocking with these settings?
Berat said:
All scaling does is how the CPU scales itself(to a given formula depending on the profile) for example if using a conservative scale the CPU scales itself by 15mhz depending on the task so if your min is 218 it would go up or down by 15 until it reaches the maximum or min. Since no kernals are available yet for our device it will use the default scaling profile built in. my screen off profile is a Max 218 Min 218 with a priority of 100. Regardless of the scaling profile selected I am forcing the CPU to down clock to that set of perimeters
So what I use for SetCPU is
Profile : Screen off
Max 218
Min 218
Priority 100
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You dont get lag when unlocking with these settings?
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No, i have the same settings and even with those settings i can listen to music and have led notification with no problems, and than right when you turn the screen on, depending on your settings of course, will bring the max right back too 1000.
Yeah it lags when I turn on the screen need to press power like 3 times
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Yeah it lags when I turn on the screen need to press power like 3 times
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I get the same, so I use 216-312 sleep profile and no problems.
how did you guys get setcpu to work when i pick a profile after launch it force closes.
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how did you guys get setcpu to work when i pick a profile after launch it force closes.
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Re-install and when u first open it make sure u click
Nvidia Tegra 2
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From what I can tell all this app does is delete the battery stats from the system which we can do from CWM on our own. Am I missing something?
hiko36 said:
From what I can tell all this app does is delete the battery stats from the system which we can do from CWM on our own. Am I missing something?
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From what i've heard it doesn't work doing it from CWM.
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From what i've heard it doesn't work doing it from CWM.
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We could just do it using Root Explorer then.
/data/system/batterystats.bin

[Q] SetCpu help!!

"Third -(Root Needed) Set CPU. Have had this on my G1 and N1 and it does nothing but save battery. I currently have it set on 216 - 1000 for when the screen is on and the only profile i have is for when the screen is off and it is at 216-216.
(Alternative) Pimp My CPU. I now am using this for my G2x because I am running custom kernal. Personally I like Set CPU better, but do to the fact that Set CPU can't get past 1000 MHz makes it kinda useless for the G2x Tegra 2. "
This is for the thread "Twenty Hour Of Battery Life" When he says he currently has it set on 216-1000, is he using the "Pimp My CPU"? Also where is that set at exactly? Is it set on the "Main-Scaling Driver" When you open up SetCpu? My "Scaling" is greyed out, I can not set it to "OnDemand" or anything, and yes my phone is rooted, it was the first step in that thread. Both Min, and Max go from 122, 128,245, and 528mHZ, so I am confused on this 216-1000? Also When I go to create a profile, and choose "Screen Off", I have the same issue as above, 216-216? What is that??? Be specific, and I am not a stranger to rooting, etc, so help me out, so I can on to the next step and install "Battery Calabration"
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"Third -(Root Needed) Set CPU. Have had this on my G1 and N1 and it does nothing but save battery. I currently have it set on 216 - 1000 for when the screen is on and the only profile i have is for when the screen is off and it is at 216-216.
(Alternative) Pimp My CPU. I now am using this for my G2x because I am running custom kernal. Personally I like Set CPU better, but do to the fact that Set CPU can't get past 1000 MHz makes it kinda useless for the G2x Tegra 2. "
This is for the thread "Twenty Hour Of Battery Life" When he says he currently has it set on 216-1000, is he using the "Pimp My CPU"? Also where is that set at exactly? Is it set on the "Main-Scaling Driver" When you open up SetCpu? My "Scaling" is greyed out, I can not set it to "OnDemand" or anything, and yes my phone is rooted, it was the first step in that thread. Both Min, and Max go from 122, 128,245, and 528mHZ, so I am confused on this 216-1000? Also When I go to create a profile, and choose "Screen Off", I have the same issue as above, 216-216? What is that??? Be specific, and I am not a stranger to rooting, etc, so help me out, so I can on to the next step and install "Battery Calabration"
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20 Views and no response, great...
20 views and no response because no one can understand what you typed
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20 views and no response because no one can understand what you typed
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Haha What typed is pretty simple to understand. I have the app SetCpu and when you open up, you are at the "Main" Tab, "Scaling" is greyed/blacked out, I can not set it to On Demand or Conservative. My phone is rooted, and SetCpu has Root Access.
Now how come scaling is disabled? Also, when the person who created the thread "Twenty Hour Battery Life" said he currently has it set to 216-1000, what does that mean? how do I set it to that? He also mentioned that he created profile for when the screen is off, and set it to "216-216", I do not understand what that means, and how to set it like that? I created a profile "Screen Off", but I am stuck at how to put it to "216-216"?
Ummmm. Iirc set CPU does not work on the g2x yet. Pimp my CPU should.
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Setcpu works fine he needs a custom kernel.. Like mordic or faux..
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On my Nexus One here the only thing I have Setcpu do is when the screen is off it goes to min245 max 384. While using your phone Android regulates your processing power based off of what it needs. While Android does that when the phone sleeps I don't want it going above 384. With my Nexus One I usually get around 18hours + of battery life w/ medium usage. I didn't have my G2x long enough to try out Setcpu but IMO only have setcpu regulate your sleepmode
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Ummmm. Iirc set CPU does not work on the g2x yet. Pimp my CPU should.
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Why do people keep saying this? I guess the author of the app is lying when he says it is compatible and all the people running it successfully are lying also.
SetCpu supports Terga 2 starting with version 2.1.1a
I have no idea where you are getting you info, but you are wrong.
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Why do people keep saying this? I guess the author of the app is lying when he says it is compatible and all the people running it successfully are lying also.
SetCpu supports Terga 2 starting with version 2.1.1a
I have no idea where you are getting you info, but you are wrong.
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I recall reading it here on xda. But that was over a week ago. Like I said iirc does not mean I'm 100% right.
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SetCPU does work with the tegra2 but I am not sure if it is playing nice with the custom kernels made by Faux and Morfic, that is why everyone is using Pimp My CPU
SetCPU works for scaling but not overclocking.
A great free app that DOES work with both of those kernels is CPU Master - find it on the market.
Thanks for clearing that up. I knew something wasn't right with set CPU onthis phone
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What are your settings for CPU Master for the Tmobile G2X? I want to get 20+hours at least, I am using Battery Calabaration from the Market and I charged the phone to 100%, opened up the app which required root access, tapped battery calaberate, then unplugged it, that was at 130 or 1:40, it is now 5:35pm, and it is at 76%, not lasting at all
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I used Titanium Back up to remove the extra apps that take up space and consume battery
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What are your settings for CPU Master for the Tmobile G2X? I want to get 20+hours at least, I am using Battery Calabaration from the Market and I charged the phone to 100%, opened up the app which required root access, tapped battery calaberate, then unplugged it, that was at 130 or 1:40, it is now 5:35pm, and it is at 76%, not lasting at all
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That's great battery life considering its a dual core tegra 2 phone which will always suck alot of battery juice . If you want a 20+ hour device then get a blackberry.
Android phones are known battery leeches. Look into a portable battery charger
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Setcpu does support tegra in G2X but currently does not support oc'ing. The scaling is greyed out on mine to but doesn't affect it sd i have seen.
So if your looking for settings use these for setcpu
Profile battery < 25%
Max 500
Min lowest
Reason: save battery amd extend phone usage
Profile sceen off
Max 1ghz
Min lowest
Reason: will drop to 216 if not using and is in idle but will jumo up if processing power is needed
Profile general (main screen)
Max 1ghz
Min 1ghz
Reason: makes cpu run full steam when using
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CPU changing speed

you only under clock for battery right? i assume you over clock at home right? or is it bad to change it often? i wish there app that change cpu depending on location. is this possible?
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Your CPU speed actually changes on its own rather often based on the load that it's taking on. For example, if your phone is just idling, the load on the CPU is close to nothing, so it's going to clock itself down to lower frequencies to save not only battery life, but itself from wearing out. Now say you're playing a game or watching a movie or something, it's going to do what it can to clock itself up to speeds to process whatever it's doing the best it can. Unless you have a STRICT clocking profile set up (say, min 1728, max 1728, performance), your clock is going to go up and down quite often. Download CPU Spy from the market and you'll see pretty well what I'm talking about.
Hope I was able to help!
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you only under clock for battery right? i assume you over clock at home right? or is it bad to change it often? i wish there app that change cpu depending on location. is this possible?
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I could not really see a situation where that would be ultimately useful, but yes download CPU Spy as the poser above me said and have a look at after a day's data gathering.
you should only have one cpu over clocking right.
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correct only one. Personally I use fauxclock with faux's kernal
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faux works on da-g kernal?
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lg g4 warms easily

So I have had this for about two days well the first day it got really hot around the camera an topper screen portion so hot holding just was a no an it was just doing normal task no apps installed just browsing so I factory reset it an that helped but not completely
So I then rooted to see if I could change kernel settings well it looks like my cores are almost always running at max speed so I downloaded kernel auditor to change setting an that still always want to go to maximum clock speed so I so I lowered it an it was still just at maximum 90% of the time So I disabled some cores bringing cpu temp down to around 94/96 degrees Fahrenheit is this normal or is it just me
Sorry for scrub questions I only had a s4 before this which was much less complicated
Thanks in advance sorry if I was confusing
Maybe there are some app running in background..try checking the usage manager, ..using bloatware tool also helping it to cool down
tryed it
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Maybe there are some app running in background..try checking the usage manager, ..using bloatware tool also helping it to cool down
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Tried safe mode an deleted a lot of bloat an it's just almost always like this except when screen off
Can you post screen shot of kernel auditor's frequency table? both of them..bigLittle
For me it was a circle case widget which was causing it to heat up. I used CPU monitor and found it. Closed that and it is fine since.
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Little cores
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So I was looking an it won't let me list the screen shot but the little cores seem to push pass the limit just by touching the screen it will raise the maximum an minimum to 1248 then when I'm not settings go to normal
so that happened
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For me it was a circle case widget which was causing it to heat up. I used CPU monitor and found it. Closed that and it is fine since.
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So I disabled the smart circle case thing an now it's better like ok
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So I disabled the smart circle case thing an now it's better like ok
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Alright good to know. You can try running CPU monitor app and see what is taking most of the CPU.
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yeah
adi_vastava said:
Alright good to know. You can try running CPU monitor app and see what is taking most of the CPU.
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Can I give me a list of system apps I can delete
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Can I give me a list of system apps I can delete
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You can refer to this
ok
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Can you post screen shot of kernel auditor's frequency table? both of them..bigLittle
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Okit wouldn't let me add the picture so here's a link Screenshot_2015-08-14-10-32-17.png - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1amLS5fOK4ONUdVbk1UZEhRbDg/view?usp=docslist_api
I also have problems as above and unresolved
I've been playing with kernel settings for a week now
so far i've noticed something regarding battery life (SOT) and its temperature
If i set big cpu to ondemand and LITTLE to interactive(default) the battery life stays much longer but the phone feel hot..
then if i set big to interactive and LITTLE to ondemand, the phone itself doesn't heat much but the battery life became poor..
and if you noticed, big cpu seldoms reach more than 384mhz..that's most of the time it stays in lowest of it frequency table
Maybe we can experimenting it together and discuss about it here

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