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I'm an early adopter of the N1. My G1 will now only have wifi connectivity and I am wondering if there are any roms that are optimized for non-phone use. I think the desire for that kind of optimization will only grow as people start replacing their first loves. I might be completely off-base, I have been up for a couple days. I'm not even sure what I want when I say optimization. But I didn't know what I wanted from custom roms when I got my first G1 and now I can't wait until Cyanogen drops his first full rom for the N1.

I see where you are comming from.. as I LOVE my G1 and at the same time lusting for the N1. I would like to have another use for the G1, something like a media center remote.. or anything.
I think this is a good idea and look forward to some of the dev responses.

You dont need a special rom for it without service. If you dont have service then phone and the like just wont work. Uninstall what you dont want. But there arent going to be any devs making roms just for g1 without service, it is a complete waste of time. There wouldnt be anything different, minus no phone.

i dont really see the point of that tbh - you can change the call button to open something else for example
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garok89 said:
i dont really see the point of that tbh - you can change the call button to open something else for example
furthermore - wrong section
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lol.. OMG dude your sig is so right. I used to love helping people with anythign electronicall or software related... Since I joined here I realized, noone wants help... they want someone to hold their hand and do it for them. Bunch of ungreatfull spoiled brats.
Sorry, but this will get moved or deleted anyway lol

thanks dude
if you like that then you will love my autoreply for emails to [email protected]
email me there and you will see it (yes im the idiot who decided to help people who are apparently idiots coz most ask the same bloody questions that have been answered in a million threads before)

garok89 said:
thanks dude
if you like that then you will love my autoreply for emails to [email protected]
email me there and you will see it (yes im the idiot who decided to help people who are apparently idiots coz most ask the same bloody questions that have been answered in a million threads before)
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Classic! I love the auto-response...

crypysmoker said:
But there arent going to be any devs making roms just for g1 without service, it is a complete waste of time. There wouldnt be anything different, minus no phone.
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If the device no longer needs to maintain the functionality of a phone, the door is even wider open. It could, for example, be a rom with debian cooked in, or it could be something like no6969el described.
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Really? This is not the place to discuss a certain type of rom?
I think the both of you are too closed minded.

you are asking a question, not contributing to the good of the android community
they answer is simple - yes...but pointless
i am far from close minded - i am always up for expanding the capabilities of my phone....not detracting from them like this idea
you can use the phone as a media centre remote with the aid of a simple app on the market
you can disable mobile data and use only wifi
you can reprogram the call button to do whatever you want
you can install debian/ubuntu rather easily and use it with vncviewer
all these things can already be done using stock android - nevermind having to modify it

Nothing I have said or asked has detracted from android. Asking questions has its place in development, it causes thinking. Re-purposing old gen hardware happens, sometimes with fantastic results. First generation android devices, like the G1, have many possibilities other than telephony.

I am wondering if there are any roms that are optimized for non-phone use.
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i do believe that is asking a general question
anyway, i am not here to argue... i just feel that the original question belonged in the QnA section

PhotoCall same as Iphone

Is it possible with HTC HD2 photocall the same with Iphone with whole screen photo?

isnayper said:
Is it possible with HTC HD2 photocall the same with Iphone with whole screen photo?
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use s2u2 instead std lock and you can set full screen photos

masi0 said:
use s2u2 instead std lock and you can set full screen photos
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How can i use s2u2. Sorry for being noob.

isnayper said:
How can i use s2u2. Sorry for being noob.
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Search the forum for s2u2 and install it as the readme say's,... could say enough Google is your friend. besides, this forum has a great search feature.

Prom1se said:
Search the forum for s2u2 and install it as the readme say's,... could say enough Google is your friend. besides, this forum has a great search feature.
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Thanks a lot, i've done searching, installing, setting, but i dont like it in my Leo, CallerID is not the same as with Iphone, so i've uninstalled it.

I am sorry to say but I will never, never understand people who wants their phone looks like an iPhone... Simpliest way would be, go and buy an iPhone, no ?
This is really something beyond my understanding .. So many posts like that ...
I don't flame you, just do not understand.

tlefeuvre said:
never understand people who wants their phone looks like an iPhone...
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sorry man, but dont u think that htc itself copied a lot iphone producing senseUI?
music tab, photo tab in landscape...they are so iphone-like don't they? wm slide to unlock, htc text selection....
so......I like my hd2, but if iphone does something that i prefere, why I cant have it in my wm phone?

Seems pretty easy to understand to me, they want a phone with better hardware, but there are elements of the iPhones UI that they like and want to replicate. Seems straightforward enough? No?

You can get what you want but its gonna replace the contact manager as well.
Have a look here: http://www.iconsoft.com/?language=en&menu=62e094db10fc83b1

lorin.bute said:
You can get what you want but its gonna replace the contact manager as well.
Have a look here: http://www.iconsoft.com/?language=en&menu=62e094db10fc83b1
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i love it, sadly its not free .. only i want my caller in full screen..

I'd also quite like this feature but without changing any of the other existing Sense UI design, I've tried the other options out there but was hoping for something that just appeared to be a mod of the original UI?
I'm not sure how easy this would be to implement but I've attached a pic to show what I'm getting at

the above jpg. is exactly what im looking for. I hope there is a cab file for this.

so what you want is for someone to develop some software for you, spend their time and effort, but you dont want to pay them for it?
That's what you're saying?
mm
if you want it then BUY phonex as stated above..

Resco contact manager does this too but again it's more than just callerid and it cost money.

fards said:
so what you want is for someone to develop some software for you, spend their time and effort, but you dont want to pay them for it?
That's what you're saying?
mm
if you want it then BUY phonex as stated above..
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Not at all, I'd gladly donate to someone if this mod could be made to the Sense UI caller ID screen. To me it seems like you would need to overlay the full screen caller image over the existing caller ID screen yet under the 'slide to answer' section, trouble is I haven't the faintest idea how to go about this??
The problem with Phonex et al is they are all apps designed to replace more than just the caller ID screen and I for one really like the Sense UI just the way it is, I'm merely asking if it's possible to mod the original UI for this one bit?

im still hoping this will exist!

New Home Screen Alternatives

I checked the first 3 pages of the forums and didn't see this posted.
Here are some upcoming home replacements for Android. One name that should be familiar to us old WinMo users and a "newcomer."
http://www.tat.se/home/
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pre...gs-support-for-symbian-and-android-along.html

they both look pretty cool but I think tathome looks like it might be a little more to my liking.

SPB isnt out yet, is tathome available yet, i didnt see a download.

+1 for TAT home it looks like it could be NICE I checked out the video (good music and all ;-)) here: http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/tat-home-the-gesture-powered-3d-home-screen-your-android-device/
I used SPB Mobile Shell 3.x with my Touch Pro and I wasn't too impressed.
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Here is a video of Mobile Shell http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/mwc-video-spb-mobile-shell-50-on-android IMO Mobile Shell is suffering from what it always has LAG!!!!! Even on the N1 it looked slow, maybe because it's BETA.

Negrito said:
SPB isnt out yet, is tathome available yet, i didnt see a download.
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I don't think it's out yet either. You can sign up for the preview here http://www.tat.se/home/ They said that "more information" will be sent later.

koricua74 said:
I don't think it's out yet either. You can sign up for the preview here http://www.tat.se/home/ They said that "more information" will be sent later.
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i signed up, thanks. good find.

I signed up as well hope I get to test.

wtphoto said:
I signed up as well hope I get to test.
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same here... looks like something to test at least...

Looks cool! I signed up for the TAT preview.

Hrm, TatHome looks like what I envisioned Android 'should be' , I'm liking the look it quite a bit!! Next: to find out whether it really runs that smoothly on my Hero. 3d and graphics are great, but if it slows my phone down in the slightest its automatically going to get turned off.

Fird said:
Hrm, TatHome looks like what I envisioned Android 'should be' , I'm liking the look it quite a bit!! Next: to find out whether it really runs that smoothly on my Hero. 3d and graphics are great, but if it slows my phone down in the slightest its automatically going to get turned off.
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cant imagine that it would slow it down anymore than sense but time will tell

muahaha, smooth as an iph*ne, and yet still kicking the pants off of it in terms of functionality = complete win for Android.

See, this is why Android is better, and why most everyone here bought an Android phone Since mostly everyone here probably signed up for that preview, the first person that gets the .apk for this, can you please post it up here incase they delay the preview to some people?

mrinehart93 said:
See, this is why Android is better, and why most everyone here bought an Android phone Since mostly everyone here probably signed up for that preview, the first person that gets the .apk for this, can you please post it up here incase they delay the preview to some people?
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+1 on this but at the same time this is why some dont want to develop for android

Why would it make them not want to develop for it? Because some devices have different specs? I'm just curious.

mrinehart93 said:
Why would it make them not want to develop for it? Because some devices have different specs? I'm just curious.
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Yes there are a lot of different spec'd Android phones out there but I think he is referencing the fact that Android apps are easier to "warez" than the apps on other OS's. All you have to do is sign up for the paid app extract the .apk post it somewhere. Also any dev can try to "reverse engineer" the app, change a few components and BAM it's on the Market as their "original" creation. Just my .2 cents

koricua74 said:
Yes there are a lot of different spec'd Android phones out there but I think he is referencing the fact that Android apps are easier to "warez" than the apps on other OS's. All you have to do is sign up for the paid app extract the .apk post it somewhere. Also any dev can try to "reverse engineer" the app, change a few components and BAM it's on the Market as their "original" creation. Just my .2 cents
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that is correct. when swype was first leaked I was actually talking to them about the bennifits of releasing it through the market instead of through manufacturers and one of the biggest concerns that was brought up was the fact that security for apps is too lax. now dont get me wrong everyone knows that for every security mesure there is always a way around it but android security just sucks thats why for the most part people afften have a free version and a donate version. if people can try it and like it then they are more likely to buy it rather than just pirate it. setcpu is a perfect example of this. sure the dev could have made it a protected app (but being a member here at xda he probably knew it was pointless) but he offers it free here and then if you like you can buy from the market to donate to help keep him developing.
so basically all im saying is...ok we all (me included) have pirated apps but if you like the app make sure to go buy it from the market and help keep these people developing for us.
I know I went off on a rant there but without intrest in app development this great platform will fail.

I might be the only here without pirated apps then haha. I did have CoPilot once, but I didn't like it much so I got rid of it. The only time I ever use something pirated is to try it. If I like it and feel the developer should get credit, then fine, I'll donate/buy it.

mrinehart93 said:
I might be the only here without pirated apps then haha. I did have CoPilot once, but I didn't like it much so I got rid of it. The only time I ever use something pirated is to try it. If I like it and feel the developer should get credit, then fine, I'll donate/buy it.
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same here the only thing I am using pirated right now is swype but thats only becuase there is no way to buy it. but thats also because im a cheap ass and maily use free apps unless I really find something useful but to date the only things that I have bought are setcpu and beautiful widgets. im trying cachemate now but it really doesnt seem to be very helpful. I wish I knew a little more about programing there is an app for the iphone that I would love to have on my hero.

i played around with "pandahome" some yesterday. it seems beta right now but they are apparently coming out with pandahome2 soon. it's a good idea, just not quite finished yet. (fc's and whatnot)
anyway you might go check it out (if your feeling froggy).
lots of options and skins ect.ect.ect.
marketplace. free.

Android Rom coming out for windowsmobile standard

making a android rom if u want join in u can just message me or replied to this. the rom would work on 3 devices one is samsungjack,blackjack1,2 and the htc snap, an one more sorry its going to be only 4 got carry away.This rom would have htc icons and new different homescreen with a android digital clock like real androids but going to be small and it may be having a new bootscreen thats going to be customize to work on these devices and not harming them the next features it would have is maybe a better quality to the phone ,give the rom htc 3d weather that i been working for quit somtime like almost 3 weeks been working on it and for last it would have is new battery just like my other project i finish yesterday 3/30/10 and new signal icons and much more.THAt why my team needs your help to make this happen for all you windowsmobile standard fans.
If you want to get your htc android on your phone now just follow this link in plz replied of what you think of the improvements that i put into it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654166

sorry if got your hopes up but the rom wont be starting untillthe beginning of may due to bugs in my other app and working on windowsmobil7series stuff like a app lockscreenand much more.thats why its not going to be develop this month but u cancan help when we start developing it for the devices that i had said.im am real sorry but not that bad working on windowsmobile7seris and working on the htc app/theme u can still enjoy them.

Hi...
Would like to follow you, i have an samsung i600 blackjack and wanted to try android OS on my fone. Let me know if its out and just a curios, will it fully support the hardware on jack? because i know android can not sync to outlook and the only way to syc it is with google.
Thanks, keep up the good work.

othmansuseno said:
Would like to follow you, i have an samsung i600 blackjack and wanted to try android OS on my fone. Let me know if its out and just a curios, will it fully support the hardware on jack? because i know android can not sync to outlook and the only way to syc it is with google.
Thanks, keep up the good work.
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ya it would support the jack if you want to join the team just message me or just replied to this thread and would have videos on my youtube to see where my team progress is at .but note that we didnt start yet we just making ideas and designs for it so it would look right on are phones may take time.
you can enjoy my other apps by looking at my other threads.

julian2596 said:
ya it would support the jack if you want to join the team just message me or just replied to this thread and would have videos on my youtube to see where my team progress is at .but note that we didnt start yet we just making ideas and designs for it so it would look right on are phones may take time.
you can enjoy my other apps by looking at my other threads.
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there will most likely never be "Andriod for the Jack, i617, or i607 or i600". And if it does happen to get developed it wont be by you. Your threads are pointless and you have never provided any info that isnt 100 other places. Stop taking credit for others work. "Your apps"? You have NO apps. Can I get a hooah?

Nottach said:
there will most likely never be "Andriod for the Jack, i617, or i607 or i600". And if it does happen to get developed it wont be by you. Your threads are pointless and you have never provided any info that isnt 100 other places. Stop taking credit for others work. "Your apps"? You have NO apps. Can I get a hooah?
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ok and who are u for saying all this and yes i can be done and u acting like its going to look just like it its going to be similar to the android

julian2596 said:
ok and who are u for saying all this and yes i can be done and u acting like its going to look just like it its going to be similar to the android
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i didnt do nothing to u and u acting like we making it we still dont know if we are still making it because we got to see would this work and right now we are just thinking and designing how we are going to do this anyway and if we do make it just going to have new htc icons a new scroll bar,change the front homescreen buttons to look like htc buttons and maybe change the interface and startmenu to look alittle more good looking and that all we would do.now calm down with all of this.you are like the only annoying person i ever seen if u dont like then leave me alone then im just trying to make my device and other devices look better then it planself and for others who is reading this sorry to anyone

and ya i do make apps just finish it two days ago nottach

What "app" have you created that isn't just other people's work bundled into a single package?
So you want Andriod on your Jack to make it look pretty? So you want an Andriod theme. Not the OS. There's a section here on xda specifically for themes. you should be posting there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=525
Are you using Google translate for posting? I probably wouldn't have posted that if you weren't constantly butchering my native language. Your posts are a bunch of incoherent random thoughts. Learn some grammar and punctuation. Even the native Chinese or Spanish speaker's posts are more proper than yours, and you live in the U.S., according to your flag.
You joined Jan 2010 and you've got over 250 posts! And in 250 posts you said something informative maybe twice.
Take your eyes off your phone, stop thinking how you can make it prettier, make the world prettier.

stll looking for more people who wants to join this team to make this rom happen.Already have 4 people so far need 2 more people who are good at designing and a person who knows alot about windowsmobile phones like me but u have to know lot about standard devices thene we would be able to get started on the rom

I gotta say this...

I have been a loyal HTC owner since 07 and a member here since 08 (i believe, lol). As you all can see I rarely post anything. I do however have a good reason... Everybody says search before you ask. So i did and always find the answer, every time. Sometimes it takes a bit of work but I find the answer.
It is just now that I started posting because I believe I graduated from super Noob to quasi Noob. I have flashed, installed, bricked, recovered bricked, and tweeked all my phones and finely believe that I have something to contribute.
Anyways I started this thread to simply say Thank You...
Thank you to all the members, moderators, developers, cooks, and everybody else. It is because of everybody here that we are able to take cutting edge and bend it to out will. It is because of you all that we are able to reflect who we are though electronic style, much like a hot rod designer or fashion designer.
Again THANK YOU and keep it up!!!

x2 from another quasi-noob (Though I have not bricked a phone...)
You are right though. Just put a little effort into searching and you will find the answer.
Now on to the serious question... How do I install Android on my hd2?

freeincolorado said:
x2 from another quasi-noob (Though I have not bricked a phone...)
You are right though. Just put a little effort into searching and you will find the answer.
Now on to the serious question... How do I install Android on my hd2?
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Hay... it was my first flash ever and something went wrong, LOL. I recovered it. I guess that does not count at bricking does it???
The easy way? Drop t-mobile and get sprint with an EVO or Verizon with the incredible. Other then that... Or, gotta wait till some super phone Einstein dude\dudet takes the core of the android port for the TP2 and adapts its to the HD2. Least I think it can happen like that.
Huh? It just occurred to me we have the same... issue. I want the EVO but DO NOT like android. I use my phone for business. I own my own repo company and I'm always working with PDF's, word, excel, e-mail, ect. I know android does SOME of these but I need all of them no questions asked. It should be a choice. I think when you buy a smart phone (especially HTC) you should have the choice of android or WM. Don't cha think? However, I guess that's like asking for you cake and eating it too.

Yes thank you all here, i've spent hours reading through posts and helping myself to many great roms and addons.

I was just kidding about installing Android on my hd2. I actually like WinMo quite a bit. I guess sarcasm doesnt translate to text well.

freeincolorado said:
I was just kidding about installing Android on my hd2. I actually like WinMo quite a bit. I guess sarcasm doesnt translate to text well.
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Epic "oops" fail-

Bountyhunter1000 said:
Epic "oops" fail-
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Lol... I've had many of those. There are loads of Android on hd2 threads in the T-Mo hd2 section. It cracks me up, there is a new one everyday.