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mobile wifi router (does it cost extra?)

Hi i have mobile wifi router installed on my phone (came with duttys rom) and i was wondering if using it my network could tell and charge me extra?
I have an unlimited data plan but i know I could pay an extra £10 and then my phone could be used as a mobile boradband device, does this mean that if i try to use the mobile wifi router program that my carrier would be able to tell and block it or charge me extra?
Also is there a way to share the phone connection with a pc without using wifi and without having to buy the networks extra mobile boradband package because I will almost never use it but its good to know i have the option if i go on holiday or whatever, maybe i want to prows the web in the garden soemthing like that

no wifi works even if you don't have a sim card in the phone
just like pda's with wifi and no phone
just like your laptop connecting with wifi to the router
just like your desktop connecting with wifi or cable to the router

no its not that, mobile wifi router converts your phone into a router so your laptop/whatever can connect to it and use its data connection to connect to the internet, I was just wondering if doing this the network can tell and then charge me extra as they usually charge for using your phone as an internet access point

the connection from the phone to the laptop or computer is free anything wifi
the cost to go onto internet will however depend on your satat rates, just to be sure id ask your operator

Hi thanks for trying to help, but thats not what I was asking. I know wifi connections are free what I was asking is if my operator will be able to tell the difference between my phone using its data connection and my laptop using my phones data connection.
The reason I ask is that I have unlimited data for my phone.
but
you can pay extra money to upgrade your account to allow your phone to be used as a mobile broadband dongle
but if they can't tell the difference between phone using its data and pc using its data then there is no need to pay the extra money.
is this the case or am i missing something

Depending on your operator, there could be a max of MB's. So it might be 500 MB/month, but also unlimited internet. With that, you are able to use it without any extra costs.

Is it possible to somewhat put up a wifi network on your phone via some program (WiFi Router is one I think) and connect to it and use it ON your phone?

aaah teething
as far as I know they should not be able to detect it
but I could be mistaken

If the usage is large 500MB/month, carrier might suspect unusual activity. teething is paid service with some carriers.

I have a G1 tethered on T-mobile USA. I have talked to customer service. They said they do not support tethering but that it is not illegal. Their solution is to allow a soft cap of 10gb of data service with their unlimited plan and once you reach the cap they throttle the internet speed down from 3g to 2g levels. Not to horrible. I play all my online games with my G1 connection, Counter Strike Source, Perfect World International, Flyff, and download quite a bit of music and usually only reach about 300mb a day which gives me a full month of service before i reach that cap. And at the start of the new month I get reset.

I´m in the same situation.
I´ve got an unlimited data plan, which covers phone/PDA use, but EXCLUDES using the device as a modem for a PC/Laptop (tethering).
I´ve tethered it ocasionally, and it worked.
My carrier didnt charge me extra, nor blocked. BUT i know the risk exists. I´ve tried to research.
What i read is that carrier COULD tell if you are tethering by traffic analysis (one way is looking the user agent of your web pages request, which identifies yor browser), but that this traffic analysys is not practical, and most carriers dont do it....by now.
So of you tether ocasionally, you are safe.....today, ....until carriers perceive there is a number significant enough to make profits,of people tethering under a data plan intented just for phone use, then they can start charging you.

jdshifflett said:
I have a G1 tethered on T-mobile USA. I have talked to customer service. They said they do not support tethering but that it is not illegal. Their solution is to allow a soft cap of 10gb of data service with their unlimited plan and once you reach the cap they throttle the internet speed down from 3g to 2g levels. Not to horrible. I play all my online games with my G1 connection, Counter Strike Source, Perfect World International, Flyff, and download quite a bit of music and usually only reach about 300mb a day which gives me a full month of service before i reach that cap. And at the start of the new month I get reset.
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ha nice, well im gonna give it a go anyway and see what happens, its just funny that they specifically advertise to upgrade your account to be able to do this as if they can somehow tell. I dunno what mobile boradband is like in the us but in the uk there advertising it all over the place as if its someting people really need instead of something that is ocasionally useful, apart from in your case its mad how much you do through your phone.

sirgawain123 said:
I´m in the same situation.
I´ve got an unlimited data plan, which covers phone/PDA use, but EXCLUDES using the device as a modem for a PC/Laptop (tethering).
I´ve tethered it ocasionally, and it worked.
My carrier didnt charge me extra, nor blocked. BUT i know the risk exists. I´ve tried to research.
What i read is that carrier COULD tell if you are tethering by traffic analysis (one way is looking the user agent of your web pages request, which identifies yor browser), but that this traffic analysys is not practical, and most carriers dont do it....by now.
So of you tether ocasionally, you are safe.....today, ....until carriers perceive there is a number significant enough to make profits,of people tethering under a data plan intented just for phone use, then they can start charging you.
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thanks for this, if the only thing they can do to check is by the web requests of your browser surely there is a way to pretend to be opera mobile for example which should receive the full web anyway. Anyway as you say I won;t be using it much if at all so if i do fancy it i think ill just take the risk and see what happens worse they can do is charge me a little extra and i may even be able to avoid that by pleeding ignorance

ArtieQ said:
Is it possible to somewhat put up a wifi network on your phone via some program (WiFi Router is one I think) and connect to it and use it ON your phone?
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I don't quite understand this question, you could use the program i mentioned to make your phone into a wifi access point and use its data connection to the internet then anything you like could then connect to it e.g. another phone, psp, ps3 laptop .....
is that what you ment?

3g/4g usb modem

Hello,
I was wondering if anyone knew if there was any work being done on getting USB 3G/4G modems to work with the g-tab. I saw there is some effort on the archos 101 but it is still in the early stages. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940470 I am pretty new to the whole android world so I have no idea if something like that is even possible on the g-tab. Anyone?

For me, I would use a wireless broadband router. Or, tether it to a 3G phone if you have broadband access on it.

fab4272 said:
For me, I would use a wireless broadband router. Or, tether it to a 3G phone if you have broadband access on it.
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+1 This is how I do it...works great. I always have my phone with me so it's convenient. I don't have to pay for an additional data line for the tablet, either!

Yeah, thats how I would if I had the option at the moment heh. My company pays for my phone and for a 3g usb modem. The phone (even though its a crackberry) has a 10mb a month limit on it so tethering isn't possible and they don't want to let me get unlimited data and give up the usb modem, go figure... heh been trying to convice them to at least let me trade the device in for one of those wireless 3g routers that verizon has...
Well thanks for the feedback though! knew it was a shot in the dark heh.

vortico said:
Yeah, thats how I would if I had the option at the moment heh. My company pays for my phone and for a 3g usb modem. The phone (even though its a crackberry) has a 10mb a month limit on it so tethering isn't possible and they don't want to let me get unlimited data and give up the usb modem, go figure... heh been trying to convice them to at least let me trade the device in for one of those wireless 3g routers that verizon has...
Well thanks for the feedback though! knew it was a shot in the dark heh.
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We worked on it for awhile, but the support just isn't there and no one wants to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935810
EDIT: Or grab one of these: http://www.amazon.com/CradlePoint-P...2ELY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298959835&sr=8-1 (I just can't convince myself for 80 bucks)

TheJesus said:
EDIT: Or grab one of these: http://www.amazon.com/CradlePoint-P...2ELY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298959835&sr=8-1 (I just can't convince myself for 80 bucks)
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This is what I use with my Clear 4G modem. I then use VOIP and a Tekkeon battery and no more cell phone charges (plus the G-Tab has an always on WiFi too). There is the Clear charge (of course), but I was paying for that anyway. Needless to say, the savings on dropping the AT&T plan quickly pays back for the CradlePoint and the Battery

lostpilot28 said:
+1 This is how I do it...works great. I always have my phone with me so it's convenient. I don't have to pay for an additional data line for the tablet, either!
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What provider do you use? I have T-Mobile and have been tethering successfully. So far they haven't added a tethering plan for me. Until now that I've outed myself.

[Q] 3g modual

can a 3g modual be used on the g tab. if so which ones work thanks all for help

How about...?
Hopefully this isn't too off-topic but why don't you just use the 3G connection from your phone (I assume you have an android phone)? That is what a lot of folks with the gTab do now.
I have a rooted Droid X phone that I've installed Wireless Tether on and since I have an unlimited data account with Verizon I turn my phone into a 3G hotspot and connect my gTab to it to surf when I'm out and about. This works great for me since I always have my phone with me.
Anyway, hopefully this info helps as I do not know of a way to add a 3G module to the gTab. Some folks have been discussing using a 3G or 4G usb dongle modem but I don't think they've been able to get that to work yet.
Good luck,
Steve

sjmoreno said:
Hopefully this isn't too off-topic but why don't you just use the 3G connection from your phone (I assume you have an android phone)? That is what a lot of folks with the gTab do now.
I have a rooted Droid X phone that I've installed Wireless Tether on and since I have an unlimited data account with Verizon I turn my phone into a 3G hotspot and connect my gTab to it to surf when I'm out and about. This works great for me since I always have my phone with me.
Anyway, hopefully this info helps as I do not know of a way to add a 3G module to the gTab. Some folks have been discussing using a 3G or 4G usb dongle modem but I don't think they've been able to get that to work yet.
Good luck,
Steve
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Absolutely agree!
I was in the quest of finding 3G module for my tab, preferably GSM, not CDMA (Werizon).
Later on I started counting and something dawned on me....LOL
If I install that module on G-Tab.... I have to pay for the access...
Since I already paying for my phone data plan, it would be a double whammy..
I have HD2 running WinMo 6.5 and WMWiFiRouter, which is the great program to tether to G-Tab.
Hope it helps.

[Q] Tethering/Hotspot

Hello,
I was curious if performing an S-Off on my Sensation 4G would allow me to create a hotspot and tether?
I currently don't have a hotspot/tether plan with T-Mobile, but I've heard there are many ways around it.
I tried searching for the keywords "hotspot" and "tether" in the "Q&A" section but the posts were from before AlphaRevX & unrevoked's S-Off came out.
Does anyone know if this is possible and if so do you have any recommendations?
Thank you,
lilhugo

lilhugo said:
Hello,
I was curious if performing an S-Off on my Sensation 4G would allow me to create a hotspot and tether?
I currently don't have a hotspot/tether plan with T-Mobile, but I've heard there are many ways around it.
I tried searching for the keywords "hotspot" and "tether" in the "Q&A" section but the posts were from before AlphaRevX & unrevoked's S-Off came out.
Does anyone know if this is possible and if so do you have any recommendations?
Thank you,
lilhugo
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theres a app called android tether in the market or search google it works i have it on my girls hd2 not on my sensation because i have a tether plan

Doesn't under 'Settings - Wireless & networks', turning on 'Portable Wi-Fi hotspot' not essentially tethering out your phone's internet to whatever device connects wifi to it?
I had someone try this on an ipad2 but claim it was very slow.
I use the USB tethering setting to whatever device that can recognize the internet connection via usb...but things like tablets usually don't take usb like for that.

That's exactly what I had to do today.
igotpunkipowa said:
Doesn't under 'Settings - Wireless & networks', turning on 'Portable Wi-Fi hotspot' not essentially tethering out your phone's internet to whatever device connects wifi to it?
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Internet at the office was down so I lent them my Sensation to use as wifi hotspot for the rest of the week.
I haven't installed any special software for it, so I'm pretty sure I could have done that before S-OFF.

NoSubstitute said:
Internet at the office was down so I lent them my Sensation to use as wifi hotspot for the rest of the week.
I haven't installed any special software for it, so I'm pretty sure I could have done that before S-OFF.
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if you have tmobile us that comes out off your data plan so if you reach or someone else the max data you will get throttle so watch who you lend your wifi sevice to

Okay cool.
Thanks for the info guys. I was curious... Why have a tether plan if you can just use "Wireless tether for Root Users" instead of paying for the tethering plan??
Thanks again,
lilhugo

lilhugo said:
Hello,
I was curious if performing an S-Off on my Sensation 4G would allow me to create a hotspot and tether?
I currently don't have a hotspot/tether plan with T-Mobile, but I've heard there are many ways around it.
I tried searching for the keywords "hotspot" and "tether" in the "Q&A" section but the posts were from before AlphaRevX & unrevoked's S-Off came out.
Does anyone know if this is possible and if so do you have any recommendations?
Thank you,
lilhugo
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Why not just use the built-in hotspot app or tethering function?
Or does T-Mobile block that stuff in the US?

phonegod said:
if you have tmobile us that comes out off your data plan so if you reach or someone else the max data you will get throttle so watch who you lend your wifi sevice to
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Not to worry. As you can see, I live in Sweden and I have no superficial limit on my data plan. Also, they only use it to surf and check emails.

Nope, I was using wifi tether the day I bought the phone long before S-off. The function has always been there for Tmo US. And you don't need a tether plan, just the data plan which is required anyway.
It has always been under the, Settings/Wireless/Portable Wifi hotspot.
Just set a password and ssid and enable the hotspot and connect your laptop, tablet ect.. and off you go!!

lilhugo said:
Hello,
I was curious if performing an S-Off on my Sensation 4G would allow me to create a hotspot and tether?
I currently don't have a hotspot/tether plan with T-Mobile, but I've heard there are many ways around it.
I tried searching for the keywords "hotspot" and "tether" in the "Q&A" section but the posts were from before AlphaRevX & unrevoked's S-Off came out.
Does anyone know if this is possible and if so do you have any recommendations?
Thank you,
lilhugo
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Hi,
I've got a European Sensation, I have S-OFF,and my wifi hotspot is working just fine.

igotpunkipowa said:
Doesn't under 'Settings - Wireless & networks', turning on 'Portable Wi-Fi hotspot' not essentially tethering out your phone's internet to whatever device connects wifi to it?
I had someone try this on an ipad2 but claim it was very slow.
I use the USB tethering setting to whatever device that can recognize the internet connection via usb...but things like tablets usually don't take usb like for that.
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Do you pay extra for USB tethering?

Sterling787 said:
Do you pay extra for USB tethering?
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See attached photo of notification from Tmobile that popped up on my Sensation (rooted, using the native Android tethering functionality)
List of phones I used for tethering in the past without getting in trouble:
Touch pro 2 via bluetooth and USB (was told at the time by tmo that there was no fee for tethering)
HD2 via bluetooth, wifi and USB (winmo and Android)
MyTouch 4g via wifi-tether (got a notice while downloading a 167MB custom ROM a month ago while driving Owned the MyTouch for 9 months without a notice, and i tethered many times a week. Even Skype video calls, and Netflix on a couple occasions)
Just got popped on my Sensation today with the attached notice. It came through "Push" messaging. I can't find where to view any previous pushed messages, but I took a screen capture before i navigated away. I think i was only watching a couple YouTube vids that were embedded in a page at 360p quality. I hadn't been tethering when the message hit my phone. It was an hour or two late.
You do have to pay if they catch you. Last month they didn't add anything to my bill. My impression is that they are starting to watch the network for signs of tethering (bittorrent would be an easy example) Or large 167MB files. They threaten to shut your connection off during tethering or severely throttle.
If you're doing light browsing on occasion, you should be fine. I'm still mad that I have a 5GB cap on 3g/4g (i average about 2GB) where they'll throttle me down to Edge if I exceed that cap. That doesn't really bother me. I don't mind the cap. Just let me tether occasionally under that cap for free. Sometimes i need to send files on my laptop to someone. Or i need the big screen for a few minutes to type a word doc to send out. It's not worth $10-15/month extra. I still have the cap to keep me honest...
The issue really came up when the Tmobile G2 was released a year ago as the first phone to take advantage of HSPA+. That's the first i ever heard of tethering requiring a special plan.

My hotspot does not work now with the stock ROM based on the new Sensation 2.3.5 leaked RUU with sence 3.5.
can anyone else with this rom or custom sence 3.5 ROM check and see if the hotspot works (to share the mobile internet)
Or anyone know how to fix? I downloaded wifi tether from the market and it conects to the PC but doesnt connect to the internet..
thanks in advance for any help.

deadpool2e said:
My hotspot does not work now with the stock ROM based on the new Sensation 2.3.5 leaked RUU with sence 3.5.
can anyone else with this rom or custom sence 3.5 ROM check and see if the hotspot works (to share the mobile internet)
Or anyone know how to fix? I downloaded wifi tether from the market and it conects to the PC but doesnt connect to the internet..
thanks in advance for any help.
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Not sure this is right place for your troubleshooting question. Try asking in a thread where the ROM is being discussed... This thread is more about not having to pay Tmo for the privilege of tethering. Most of us have a data cap (2GB or 5GB) and we want to use it up without being told which device has to be the end user of that data. Tmo is trying to make sure people don't abuse the network with high demand like replacing a home internet connection.
But, here's my advice:
Make sure you are getting a data connection on the phone. Then make sure the PC is truly getting an IP (not a private IP that usually starts 169.x.x.x i think?), it should be 192.168.x.x. If you have trouble still, try disabling the security [WEP or WPA] in the tethering app. Then see if you can connect. If you can after disabling security, then you might need to tweak the security settings in the app, and replicate them on the PC to get secure again. I don't have that ROM, so i can't be of more help.

Thanks for the reply, I would put it in the Rom thread, but don't have enough posts to do that yet.......

deadpool2e said:
My hotspot does not work now with the stock ROM based on the new Sensation 2.3.5 leaked RUU with sence 3.5.
can anyone else with this rom or custom sence 3.5 ROM check and see if the hotspot works (to share the mobile internet)
Or anyone know how to fix? I downloaded wifi tether from the market and it conects to the PC but doesnt connect to the internet..
thanks in advance for any help.
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FIXED with this http://androidforums.com/1734672-post32.html
guess it was just a orange thing....

Tmous action against tether
Ok. Now Tmo has gone farther. I posted earlier in this thread about their notices against tethering. Now they've gone a step further. I was tethering this morning and uploading a 55MB youtube video from my laptop. I got another push message warning me against tethering without the add-on plan and then my upload failed. I tried to pull up google.com on my laptop, and it went to a tmobile page encouraging me to add the tether option to my monthly plan. (see attached).
I am rooted and even just installed a 3rd party app for tethering by barnacle. Somehow Tmo still figured it out. The worst part is i could email the 55MB (via gmail) to my phone and then I could upload it to youtube via 3g/4g on my phone. This would cost Tmobil data twice (once each way to my phone).
I'm not asking to abuse my internet connection (i'm capped at 5gb/month anyway, then EDGE speeds after that). On my phone, I could easily watch Netflix for a few hours and Skype video conference all day long, and tax their network like crazy. But even with tethering, i've only used 1-2 GB per month. Maybe I'll send the video to my dropbox, then download it to my phone, and upload it from there. F*%k you Tmo! I'm buying 5GB/month, let me used it on my 15" screen with a full keyboard! I'm not asking for unlimited high speed data to replace my DSL (yeah, i know DSL is no faster than my 4G. It's better at my house than my tmo connection though).

pokeycd said:
Ok. Now Tmo has gone farther. I posted earlier in this thread about their notices against tethering. Now they've gone a step further. I was tethering this morning and uploading a 55MB youtube video from my laptop. I got another push message warning me against tethering without the add-on plan and then my upload failed. I tried to pull up google.com on my laptop, and it went to a tmobile page encouraging me to add the tether option to my monthly plan. (see attached).
I am rooted and even just installed a 3rd party app for tethering by barnacle. Somehow Tmo still figured it out. The worst part is i could email the 55MB (via gmail) to my phone and then I could upload it to youtube via 3g/4g on my phone. This would cost Tmobil data twice (once each way to my phone).
I'm not asking to abuse my internet connection (i'm capped at 5gb/month anyway, then EDGE speeds after that). On my phone, I could easily watch Netflix for a few hours and Skype video conference all day long, and tax their network like crazy. But even with tethering, i've only used 1-2 GB per month. Maybe I'll send the video to my dropbox, then download it to my phone, and upload it from there. F*%k you Tmo! I'm buying 5GB/month, let me used it on my 15" screen with a full keyboard! I'm not asking for unlimited high speed data to replace my DSL (yeah, i know DSL is no faster than my 4G. It's better at my house than my tmo connection though).
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You have got to be kidding me .. what next?

I have never had this problem with tmous. I regularly tether laptops, tablets and ipods to my Sensation with no issue/message. Heck, I moved into my new apartment a few months ago, and while I didn't have internet, I tethered my xbox to my sensation and played on that. HSPA+ was more than fast enough to give me no lag while pwning n00bs.

[Q] Tether phone to computer using phones wifi?

This probably seems like a silly idea and I may not be able to get my point across directly.
I want to use a cell phone as a WiFi dongle using my home WiFi to connect my wifi'cardless computer to the internet.
Clarification: not looking for a link to tethering, WiFi hotspot 101 threads.
They sell usb WiFi dongles at best buy for $15 but I was wondering if there was a way to get my phone to do the same thing.
Thanks in advance for the inevitable tethering/WiFi hotspot guide links.

DevilDogg said:
This probably seems like a silly idea and I may not be able to get my point across directly.
I want to use a cell phone as a WiFi dongle using my home WiFi to connect my wifi'cardless computer to the internet.
Clarification: not looking for a link to tethering, WiFi hotspot 101 threads.
They sell usb WiFi dongles at best buy for $15 but I was wondering if there was a way to get my phone to do the same thing.
Thanks in advance for the inevitable tethering/WiFi hotspot guide links.
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I don't this this would be feasible. Since your PC does not have wifi, the phone would need to emulate a Wifi dongle, which is not trivial and possibly not feasible. :good: