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I would like to to change the task switcher (what pops up when you hold "home") to behave similar to the "home screen switcher". To get an idea of what I mean, think the "cards" view of running apps from WebOS, but in a hexagon. With some obvious differences.
NOTE: By "home screen switcher" I mean the animation you see when that occurs when you "un-pinch to zoom out" on any of the 7 home screens, allowing you to select one (in Senses UI for 2.1). NOT the application of similar name.
Basically replace the homescreens with snapshots of 6 running apps.
If you get what I am talking about, and you know anything about the logistics of making it happen, I would appreciate you input. I don't know the first thing about developing, but I'm thinking about starting this as a learning project. I'm not asking anyone to do it, just let me know how feasible it is, and steer me down the right path. I know this is a development thing, but I spend all my time in this section of the forums, and I wanted ask the devs here first. I've been here a bit and never even opened a thread, so please don't crucify me.
If you ARE interested beyond that, PM me. I came up with this while celebrating 420, and while I was in a creative state of mind I typed up an EXTREMELY in-depth description of how it would ideally behave.
Well, I guess no one is interested. But I've started looking at it, but I'm stuck
running logcat I see this when I "zoom out"
I/ActivityManager( 81): Starting activity: Intent { act=android.intent.action.MAIN cat=[android.intent.category.HOME] flg=0x10200000 cmp=com.htc.launcher/.Launcher }
W/Rosie_3D( 159): onWorkspaceStopScroll , CurrentScreen = 3, mIsAnimation = false, mStopAnimation = false
W/Rosie_3D( 159): TIME_SHOW_CURRECT_PAGE , CurrentScreen = 3
and nothing when I hold home to make the stock "open app switcher" pop up.
For starters, anyone know if either of these fuctions are part of an .apk? If not, anything would help.
palm web os
now you know what would be sick, if someone ported web os but for the hero, but kinda like an htc version of web os but still had the same exact feature as the palm pre, i own one, i think it would be sick, if im not mistaken doing something like that would be illegal..........
i had a palm pre so i have alot of ideas i can bring to the table.
what i think you should do is this
have a notication up that with the program name
slide down and click it
when clicked all your running apps will pop up in a "card-view"
then you can hold for 2 secs to close or touch to open up...
i believe that's the fastest way to get your apps and open and/or kill them
holding the home key takes to long to pop up but that can be another way to do it.
This would be awesome
Demoyo23 said:
now you know what would be sick, if someone ported web os but for the hero, but kinda like an htc version of web os but still had the same exact feature as the palm pre, i own one, i think it would be sick, if im not mistaken doing something like that would be illegal..........
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yeah hp & palm would make you pull this.
this is why i wanted htc to buy palm, i really wanted webos on a htc phone, maybe even port it to a android phone.
its already been done on the iphone, hp and palm wouldnt make you pull crap lol..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671147
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snXCC9mTvI4 < Iphone video
Have you tried appswipe?
I am no dev either but considering webos is built on linux I would image the right genius (or collaboration of geniuses) could probably pull this off
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Have you tried appswipe?
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this app takes it out me mouth it just needs to be more tweaked for speed and alittle bit more funtional.
XxsydenxX said:
its already been done on the iphone, hp and palm wouldnt make you pull crap lol..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671147
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snXCC9mTvI4 < Iphone video
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holy ****, i wish we had a palm theme that was that functional.
I have not tried app swipe. And im not the genius trying to port webOS, although that would be awesome. I'm really just looking to modify/ reverse engineer a little.
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I have not tried app swipe. And im not the genius trying to port webOS, although that would be awesome. I'm really just looking to modify/ reverse engineer a little.
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app swipe sucks, i just tried it, nothing like webos cards.
fixxxer2008 said:
app swipe sucks, i just tried it, nothing like webos cards.
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Not close but show running and recent. Useful until you guys work your magic
fixxxer2008 said:
app swipe sucks, i just tried it, nothing like webos cards.
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TaskOS is the only thing close to web os cards
teddypepper52 said:
I would like to to change the task switcher (what pops up when you hold "home") to behave similar to the "home screen switcher". To get an idea of what I mean, think the "cards" view of running apps from WebOS, but in a hexagon. With some obvious differences.
NOTE: By "home screen switcher" I mean the animation you see when that occurs when you "un-pinch to zoom out" on any of the 7 home screens, allowing you to select one (in Senses UI for 2.1). NOT the application of similar name.
Basically replace the homescreens with snapshots of 6 running apps.
If you get what I am talking about, and you know anything about the logistics of making it happen, I would appreciate you input. I don't know the first thing about developing, but I'm thinking about starting this as a learning project. I'm not asking anyone to do it, just let me know how feasible it is, and steer me down the right path. I know this is a development thing, but I spend all my time in this section of the forums, and I wanted ask the devs here first. I've been here a bit and never even opened a thread, so please don't crucify me.
If you ARE interested beyond that, PM me. I came up with this while celebrating 420, and while I was in a creative state of mind I typed up an EXTREMELY in-depth description of how it would ideally behave.
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Kinda exists already its called task OS in the market
Btw with appswipe you can flick to kill too
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TaskOS is the only thing close to web os cards
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too bad it's painfully slow to the point it almost locked up my hero.
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too bad it's painfully slow to the point it almost locked up my hero.
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It's rather zippy on my hero o.o.
downloading now to see how it is.
So far, I love almost everything about Mango. But there's one thing that's pissing me off. It used to be that you could start a download and just keep right on browsing. I found this VASTLY superior to the experience of the marketplace on iPhone, where you choose an app to install and it dumps out of the market.
Unfortunately, the new Marketplace on WP7 does exactly what the iPhone app store does now, and it sucks. SUCKS! Is there any way to revert it to the old behavior? Of all the features to parrot from iOS, this was the worst!
I think there's no way to revert the old function in Mango. But I think you just have to hit "back" one time to go back to the market? I will try it
Edit: Hitting "back" one time works fine for me In my opinion it's not really annoying.
Yes, back button is a quick workaround. I was annoyed also, but as I don't install a lot of apps at once, this is only annoying at the first configuration.
iOS has back button?
It annoys me a lot more the dissapear of the "tabs" button in the web browser than this.
Just hit the back arrow, it's not that big of a deal.
I'm not sure if iOS / iPhone has got a back button
Wait?! On NoDo there was a button for the "tabs", right? And now we have to slide up the menu and click on it. Am I right?
No, of course no iOS devices have a back button, that's common knowledge. This IS a big deal though, when you factor in that Zune STILL can't simply backup your apps for easy reinstall, making it a giant hassle to get all your apps back. Now it's made worse because you have to back straight up again. Still not as bad as iOS, but definitely a step in the WRONG direction.
I agree about the tabs in IE; the new way to get to them is lame.
I must say I don't tend to install 10 apps at a time, so pressing back if i need to add a second one is not an issue at all.
In other words I think this is a step in the right direction
Personal choice I guess ... but imho nothing to start an entire thread on ..
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No, of course no iOS devices have a back button, that's common knowledge. This IS a big deal though, when you factor in that Zune STILL can't simply backup your apps for easy reinstall, making it a giant hassle to get all your apps back. Now it's made worse because you have to back straight up again. Still not as bad as iOS, but definitely a step in the WRONG direction.
I agree about the tabs in IE; the new way to get to them is lame.
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If you install your app via Zune, it'll automaically installed when you reflashed / hard reset your phone.
Nope, not a single app I'd installed from Zune automatically reinstalled. On top of that, if you *didn't* install it from Zune to begin with, you can't install it from Zune at all--EVER. It's locked out. No choice but to do it from the phone ad infinitum.
So far I'm loving 95% of Mango, but it's not without its missteps, unfortunately. I agree it's not usually a HUGE deal to have to press the back button, but it's still a step in the wrong direction. Android marketplace has it right, and Windows Phone marketplace used to.
There's another thing which is absolutely broken. You can't reinstall anything from Zune. If you try, it will tell you it's already installed and the install button is greyed out.
People have different tastes, I get it. You might say the back button is a big plus in usability compared to ios.
But I think on ios they rarely screw this kind of functionality.
maybe they haven't update their zune or marketplace according to mango.
I read an article from Microsoft about this before, if i recall correctly, the reason why it dumps you to the application list is to show you where you can find your app once it was installed.
People were not aware of where their app was located once they hit install in the Marketplace. You hit install, the progress bar appears, and then once its done, the app simply disappears with no indication as to where it went. People were confused by this behavior. By visually showing people that their app was being installed into the application list, they now know exactly where to find their app, and they can also launch the app once it is done installing/downloading. Same thing with games, people were not finding the game they installed, so now it shows you that its in the Games hub.
In my opinion, this method is more intuitive. An option to disable it would be nice, because I know where my apps are going, but I think for most people, this method makes more sense and is more fluid.
The upside is that you can simply press back to get back to the marketplace. Another positive is the fact that you can now launch your app immediately as it finishes, instead of having to back out all the way start screen, then swiping to the right. I'm sure most people install apps one at a time, rather than a whole bunch at once, so in the long run, this method makes much more sense.
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There's another thing which is absolutely broken. You can't reinstall anything from Zune. If you try, it will tell you it's already installed and the install button is greyed out.
People have different tastes, I get it. You might say the back button is a big plus in usability compared to ios.
But I think on ios they rarely screw this kind of functionality.
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The back button is a HUGE deal and makes an incredible difference over any iDevice. I'm all about different tastes, of course. I completely agree that the Zune software's ability to reinstall apps is completely, totally, 100% BROKEN. However, that's not an iOS advantage, that's an iTunes advantage (and let's face it, iTunes has so few of them, LOL) and I'd never go back to the crapware that is iOS now that I've enjoyed WP7 and especially Mango.
But that said, yes, there is still work to be done. I'd hoped mango would fix everything, but alas it's failed to do so. I must give it credit, though--it fixes *almost* everything
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I read an article from Microsoft about this before, if i recall correctly, the reason why it dumps you to the application list is to show you where you can find your app once it was installed.
People were not aware of where their app was located once they hit install in the Marketplace. You hit install, the progress bar appears, and then once its done, the app simply disappears with no indication as to where it went. People were confused by this behavior. By visually showing people that their app was being installed into the application list, they now know exactly where to find their app, and they can also launch the app once it is done installing/downloading. Same thing with games, people were not finding the game they installed, so now it shows you that its in the Games hub.
In my opinion, this method is more intuitive. An option to disable it would be nice, because I know where my apps are going, but I think for most people, this method makes more sense and is more fluid.
The upside is that you can simply press back to get back to the marketplace. Another positive is the fact that you can now launch your app immediately as it finishes, instead of having to back out all the way start screen, then swiping to the right. I'm sure most people install apps one at a time, rather than a whole bunch at once, so in the long run, this method makes much more sense.
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I get where you're going, but I humbly disagree. it would be better to prompt the user once an app finishes installing: "Would you like to see where we've installed your app?" Let's face it: if you can't figure out that your app is in the *alphabetical list* of APPS, maybe you shouldn't be using a smartphone at all
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I get where you're going, but I humbly disagree. it would be better to prompt the user once an app finishes installing: "Would you like to see where we've installed your app?" Let's face it: if you can't figure out that your app is in the *alphabetical list* of APPS, maybe you shouldn't be using a smartphone at all
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Well now that is a more annoying solution. That last thing I want is another prompt asking me another question. The old way or the new way is much better than having to go through another prompt. That breaks the fluid flow of the app installation process. The less prompts, the better.
Not to mention, the new method feels more complete. Like a full circle. Find an app -> choose to install it -> see download/installation progress and where its located -> launch and go.
Though I do agree that if you can't find where your apps are to begin with, you've got some issues there, but one of the points of Windows Phone 7 was to be a friendlier and more intuitive phone, and this only reinforces that thinking.
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I get where you're going, but I humbly disagree. it would be better to prompt the user once an app finishes installing: "Would you like to see where we've installed your app?" Let's face it: if you can't figure out that your app is in the *alphabetical list* of APPS, maybe you shouldn't be using a smartphone at all
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A prompt will be completelly awful, the current behaviour is very intuitive for all users, but Microsoft usually add things for power users like a lot of key combinations and stuff, so I feel that in this case they are missing like a "Install in background" option if you hold your finger over the install button, or the application, or in a menu.
Also about the tab switch in IE, I also feel that a 2 finger swipe is REQUIRED to switch tabs. WP7 barely uses finger gestures, and in this case flip a tab is a 3-step action...
eried said:
A prompt will be completelly awful, the current behaviour is very intuitive for all users, but Microsoft usually add things for power users like a lot of key combinations and stuff, so I feel that in this case they are missing like a "Install in background" option if you hold your finger over the install button, or the application, or in a menu.
Also about the tab switch in IE, I also feel that a 2 finger swipe is REQUIRED to switch tabs. WP7 barely uses finger gestures, and in this case flip a tab is a 3-step action...
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A prompt might not work, it was just a thought. However, having an option in settings to be able to choose the preferred behavior would be ideal.
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I read an article from Microsoft about this before, if i recall correctly, the reason why it dumps you to the application list is to show you where you can find your app once it was installed.
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This actually makes sense. I did have this exact problem in NoDo, where I wasn't sure if an app had downloaded, or where it could be located. Dumping the user into the application list is not a problem when the system has a "back" button.
two finger swiping to change tabs would be awesome. Even pinch zooming right out like with the pictures.
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No, of course no iOS devices have a back button, that's common knowledge.
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Maybe for you as you had an iDevice before. But why should I know this? I don't care about iDevices
The methods mentioned in this thread sound great I'd like to be asked whether to use a "tabs" button or the "two finger swipe". An option in the settings would be perfect.
And I also like how an app is installed
But the best solutions are to provide options so that the user can choose his favourite way
I don't know what idiot made the decision to make the right trackpad button to work as "back" but he needs to be fired from his job. The transformer already has atleast 2 back buttons, and probably a few shortcuts for back that I don't know about. Why make the right mouse button also "back"?
The transformer would be a full laptop replacement, if I had a right mouse button like every other computer I've ever owned in my entire life. Do I need to write a letter to my congressman or something to make this happen? Hell, I'd be willing to learn to solder and rewire the keyboard just to make it work (not really, once I learn to solder I'll be moding my electric motorcycle, but that's not the point). Honestly, if someone makes an app to fix this, I will buy it, then send a nice letter to google/asus telling them to offer that person a job for being smarter than one of their current employees.
lol i completely agree. It would be great if the right click was the equvalent of a press and hold. would make everything so much easier
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I don't know what idiot made the decision to make the right trackpad button to work as "back" but he needs to be fired from his job. The transformer already has atleast 2 back buttons, and probably a few shortcuts for back that I don't know about. Why make the right mouse button also "back"?
The transformer would be a full laptop replacement, if I had a right mouse button like every other computer I've ever owned in my entire life. Do I need to write a letter to my congressman or something to make this happen? Hell, I'd be willing to learn to solder and rewire the keyboard just to make it work (not really, once I learn to solder I'll be moding my electric motorcycle, but that's not the point). Honestly, if someone makes an app to fix this, I will buy it, then send a nice letter to google/asus telling them to offer that person a job for being smarter than one of their current employees.
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+1!!!!!!
Don't know if its possible to change that. Kinda unfortunate
seems like every app has a different "hold" duration and not all apps have this feature
so implementation would be inconsistent
Could you exagerate or be any more of an asshole at all? Merely because you do not understand why it was made as a back button instead of *whatever you want it to be* does not give you the right to sit there and type a two paragraph rant about how ASUS is full of idiots. Talk about self-entitlement and impatiance.
It does not function as a "right click" (I don't know how the hell it could) because Android doesn't have a right click. It simply doesn't exist. A longpress is a lot different from a right click, and it isn't possibly/trivial to just map the right click button to be a long press.
hmm... I wonder if it would be possible for 2x or other RDP/vnc clients to "capture" the right-click on the pad and send it as a right-mouse button to windows/linux/etc that actually does make use...
That would be nice rather than me hunting for where the options in windows are without right-click..
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Personally, I like the right button being back button! In Andoid, you use the back button alot. If using the trackpad, it makes perfect sense to have teh right button be a back button - otherwise you'd be reaching up all of the time to press the on-screen or on-keyboard back button.
At least that my opinon! Same if using an external mouse... I use the right button constantly.
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Far more configurations would be great here.
Under the keyboard/input settings where the mouse control is, and the keyboard 'do I want auto capitalisation', having an advanced button that takes you to;
Top Row AndroidControl|Function Keys
Back Button Back|Escape
Right Mouse Back|RightHold
And allow you to select the functionality/remap, without having to mess about with root, would be /really/ useful. We can change the cursor to a pointer/gestures, but can't remap the right click?
And as an aside, I can't find through googling, but does anyone know what the 1 and 6 numbers are highlighted?
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Personally, I like the right button being back button! In Andoid, you use the back button alot. If using the trackpad, it makes perfect sense to have teh right button be a back button - otherwise you'd be reaching up all of the time to press the on-screen or on-keyboard back button.
At least that my opinon! Same if using an external mouse... I use the right button constantly.
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Remote RDP lite does this. Emailed him and he did it. Quite fast too.
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Remote RDP lite does this. Emailed him and he did it. Quite fast too.
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I was about to suggest Remote RDP Lite as well, my problem with that over 2x though is Remote RDP Lite doesn't seem to fit perfectly on my tablet screen while 2x does running at the same resolution. Not to Threadjack, but have you noticed this as well?
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I was about to suggest Remote RDP Lite as well, my problem with that over 2x though is Remote RDP Lite doesn't seem to fit perfectly on my tablet screen while 2x does running at the same resolution. Not to Threadjack, but have you noticed this as well?
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Well I have Remote RDP Enterprise, And in each computer settings, you can change the screen resolution (1280x750) or try fit device (at bottom). Not sure if RDP lite has it. Fits my screen perfect.
Long answer: Seeing how the Transformer is the only tablet with a keyboard dock that has a trackpad, the answer is no. Issue is too small for Google to address it and it would only effect 1 device. Asus probably won't do it either since they didn't intend for the Transformer to run different OS's, such as Ubuntu where a right click would be necessary.
Simple and sweet answer: No, if you don't like it, buy a laptop
EDIT: After reading your original post again, you're the idiot. Why would a touch screen operation system need a right click? Android's right click is the long press. Asus decided to make a nice keyboard dock but like I said earlier, it was made for Android, not Ubuntu/Windows/etc.
FTR if you actually use a mouse plugged into the dock the middle mouse button is the Menu key. I agree with the back button being the right click. I use primary (left click), back and menu keys a lot more than I use long press [even without a mouse]
I may be an idiot, but i use "long press" often enough that it would be exceptionally useful to have a button on the trackpad that has the same function. Far more useful than another back button. Also when useing the trackpad/mouse, "long click" is really slow. Having an equivalent "right click" button would also make Android a more competitive operating system. Instead of having a laptop and a tablet, i can have tablet that transforms into a laptop. I'm pretty sure that was Asus's original idea, hence the name "transformer." Also, It's intuitive, a right button brings up additional options, like "back." It's how it works on every other computer.
actually, the right click button is always a back button in android. I have run android in an emulator before and right click was the back button (this was an eclair build as well). I think it's been in there for so long that it would be harder to fix than you would think. And, as mentioned before, the long press on items is inconsistent in different apps. Sure, it would be usefull for newbies to the transformer (my sister wanted to try it out and told me that the browser kept going back a page whenever she wanted to right click on a link to open it in another tab) but I am personally used to it when using an external mouse
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Very Nice! Thanks for pointing out Remote RDP lite. I also manually typed in a resolution of 1280x753 and it fits the transformer screen perfectly.
In addition to using the right-click as a right-click on the windows RDP, it also tracks your mouse cursor as you move it, not just when you click, so mouse-overs Work!!! Very Nice!
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I may be an idiot, but i use "long press" often enough that it would be exceptionally useful to have a button on the trackpad that has the same function. Far more useful than another back button. Also when useing the trackpad/mouse, "long click" is really slow. Having an equivalent "right click" button would also make Android a more competitive operating system. Instead of having a laptop and a tablet, i can have tablet that transforms into a laptop. I'm pretty sure that was Asus's original idea, hence the name "transformer." Also, It's intuitive, a right button brings up additional options, like "back." It's how it works on every other computer.
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The Transformer isn't every other computer now is it? Stop looking at it as a laptop replacement, that's not what it's meant for. Tablets are extensions of your phone.
Yes it's called the Transformer because of the dock, but it transforms into an ANDROID laptop, not another OS. You really think Asus is gonna spend time hardcoding a right click into a OS that is pretty much based around the long press?
Having a right click button doesn't make Android any more competitive than it already is. You really think someone is going to say "Oh this has a right click but that has a nice flashly OS and it's made by Apple!!!" If you really think a right click is going to be a deciding factor for purchasing a tablet, you are just ....
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Having a right click button doesn't make Android any more competitive than it already is. You really think someone is going to say "Oh this has a right click but that has a nice flashly OS and it's made by Apple!!!"
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Watch as apple comes out with a dock for their tablet saying "It's magic!! When I plug in the dock it becomes a computer complete with right mouse button support."
You show me a tablet with dock that will function just like a netbook/laptop and doesn't have Windows or Apple on it, and I'll definitely give it a try. If it works well, I'll buy it.
The transformer is the number one selling Android tablet right now, and I'm pretty sure it's not because of the tablet. It's probably because of the full keyboard with track pad. I take that as a pretty clear sign that people are expecting more than just an extension of their phone. They are looking for a tablet that can do more.
Tablet's are now competing with netbooks, and soon with laptops. There are plenty of threads here about people wanting to use their transformer for school, business, and work. To do these things require functionality. Functionality requires input options that are easy to use. Currently, for anything other movies, music and games, the transformer is a bit of a pain to use. Even browsing the internet isn't that great. Sure it can do these things, but not gracefully.
Google needs to step up their game. If they didn't plan to compete with laptops/netbooks, then I'm wrong. But I have a feeling this Android thing is going to go way past phones and extensions of phones, and Google was planning that. These recent updates of adding support for multiple SD cards and screen scaling after the hardware comes out is crap. Think ahead Goggle, and build your OS for the hardware that will come out next year, not what was released last month.
Don't defend Google because it's difficult to change their software. Challenge them to make the difficult changes now, so that when we buy new hardware next year, we don't have to wait for updates to make it functional and user friendly.
I think Asus or someone else from their company said that when google android 4.0 comes out they will port it to the tf and of course their future tablets.. so i hope android 4.0 will bring the big changes we expect..
I didn't know that it would've been an issue of the inability of an OS, I'm using a Prime and there is a thread in the forums that gives the ability to remap each individual keys of the dock. So I had a thought that wouldn't it be possible to map the right click button to the command 'bring up context menu' just like how long pressing brings up the context menu
I have a question, why is it that the only way to return to an app suspended state is via the multitasking card view? I mean, it should be like ios that whenever an app is in memory, if you open that app i will take you to the saved state.
Currently if i exit an app via the windows key, then try to reopen said app from the app list it will open like it was the first time...
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I have a question, why is it that the only way to return to an app suspended state is via the multitasking card view? I mean, it should be like ios that whenever an app is in memory, if you open that app i will take you to the saved state.
Currently if i exit an app via the windows key, then try to reopen said app from the app list it will open like it was the first time...
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Yes,this is a design inconsistency.I have mentioned in another thread...if you use windows button to exit an app,then the next time you open it,you will need to relaunh the app again. Unless,you long pres back button in order to let the app go into multitask mode. Then you only press windows button. If not, the system won't memorize the app. Windows button is simply cancel everything off.
This situation same goes to the live tiles, if you use windows button to exit an app,the live tiles will never update. However, if you use back button,the live tiles will be updated,you can try this by using network dashboard or any live tiles apps.
Please fix the Windows/home button command and functionality,it is just a shame....
To me it seems like the multi-task is more of a recent memory than a multi-task. For example, if i'm in a game of angry birds, regardless of what way i use to get back to the home page, when I get back into the game via the multi-task menu.. it relaunches the app and puts me at the home page.
what gives?
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To me it seems like the multi-task is more of a recent memory than a multi-task. For example, if i'm in a game of angry birds, regardless of what way i use to get back to the home page, when I get back into the game via the multi-task menu.. it relaunches the app and puts me at the home page.
what gives?
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I have no idea with angry birds,but other games yes...even if you long press the back button,it will just relaunch the game,maybe they haven't update the app to mango compatible.
However, IMHO, Microsoft really have to fix the windows/home button command ot functionality,to make it adapt to the fast app switching,multitask/resume and the live tiles.
Yes... Angry birds has not been updated...
And it just seems weird to me that an app thats saved in memory have to start again... I would think its not that hard to fix this....
Ok.. update on my own thoughts. Maybe I'm thinking of something different than you guys, but here's what I found.
I remembered the game 'Penguins' updated right after mango. I tried this out with that game. In the middle of a game, I can pause, hit the windows button, do whatever I want on the phone, then using the multitask menu go back into the game, and I'm back in the game at the pause screen. Alternatively, I can hit the windows button without even pausing it, and I can later resume the game. It appears there's no issue with the software, it's just a matter of how the programmers write the apps. Again, I could be missing the idea here, but I think this is what you guys were talking about
I find holding the back button to he much more efficient than going to the home screen into a grid of icons to find and launch the app again. another ridiculous multitasking complaint brought to u by yours truly.
elcapo24682 said:
I find holding the back button to he much more efficient than going to the home screen into a grid of icons to find and launch the app again. another ridiculous multitasking complaint brought to u by yours truly.
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Whats wrong with you,buddy? please edit your post,ridiculous complaint???OP never complaints about anything,it is clearly a question and a discussion here.
Furthermore,in regard to the ways you provided is not a good way in some manners. For example, if I'm checking my tweets and then i press home button and go out,make some calls texts and calendar. Then,i think it better for me to go back the app by access it from the app list or tiles. Therefore, back button is simply useless in this case.
You shouldn't be surprised. That's just eric12341 using a fake name to try to sneak around his account suspension.
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You shouldn't be surprised. That's just eric12341 using a fake name to try to sneak around his account suspension.
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Yea, I know, I have read some posts at the Nokia device specs out thread talking about this guy.
Troll almost everywhere.
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Whats wrong with you,buddy? please edit your post,ridiculous complaint???OP never complaints about anything,it is clearly a question and a discussion here.
Furthermore,in regard to the ways you provided is not a good way in some manners. For example, if I'm checking my tweets and then i press home button and go out,make some calls texts and calendar. Then,i think it better for me to go back the app by access it from the app list or tiles. Therefore, back button is simply useless in this case.
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check tweets from the Me tile, it's really fast. its impossible for an app to remember the last state it was in unless u have a bg agent. its not that hard to use the back button. first people complain /criticize for no multitasking now there's complain/criticize over how its implemented. get a grip.
I agree with the OP. It sucks so bad. I'm no troll, but it takes me much longer to hold the back button and find the instance instead just press windows and first tile.
I'm not even mentioning the problems I'm having with my keyboard auto hiding while i'm typing, and the problem with auto correction in third party apps. Whenever I have an special character, it doesnt overwrite the whole word to correct it. "blahblaç" turns into "blahblaçblahblah". Genious.
Oh, and yeah, you cant use toast notifications! If you use it to redirect to your whatsapp message, it will reload the whole app instead resuming it.
Whats the point of implementing multitasking and turning it so ****ing difficult to use?
Whatsapp toast notification reloading the whole app is true. And it makes no sense to me.
BTW i love wp7, so im not hating at all... Its just that this problem seems soo easy to fix, its just silly.
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Whatsapp toast notification reloading the whole app is true. And it makes no sense to me.
BTW i love wp7, so im not hating at all... Its just that this problem seems soo easy to fix, its just silly.
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Guess we are alone with this. No one seems to care about how MS implemented it. As long they can use it somehow.
Just wrote about my time with the LTE One X today at AT&T. Posted it in another forum but wanted to share the link. Also included photos I snapped at the store.
I just spent 20 minutes with the One X at my local AT&T store. My second round. Some observations.
The screen just blows away the iPhone 4/4S. It's honestly absurd how sharp it is. Whites are significantly white and everything just looks incredible. (Pictures, video, text, backgrounds, etc.)
Wi-fi was enabled however the sales rep told me they were having an issue with the cellular connection (I didn't ask what exactly). The rep was nice enough to download Chrome Beta for me to mess with.
Chrome Beta over wi-fi was faster than Safari on my iP4. I was able to handle the unit somewhat easily with one hand. I have smallish hands but was able to reach the address bar with my thumb in portrait without too much discomfort. I think the light weight of the device and curved backing help a great deal with respect to using it with one hand.
There were seven levels with respect to increasing and decreasing the volume. I believe the iPhone has 16 levels.
The unit I was handed appeared to have full power. Because ICS does not have a battery percentage indicator by default, I was unable to notice how much battery I lost in my 20 minutes on wi-fi. When I returned the device it did not appear as if the battery icon changed much, or at all.
I do have one serious gripe, and it has to do with Chrome. In order to access your bookmarks, you need to tap 'Menu' and then 'Bookmarks'. On Safari I simply tap the dedicated bookmarks icon. So it's an additional step, and while it may not seem like a big deal, it most certainly is. At least for me it is. That extra tap is a pain in the arse. I spend a lot of time browsing on Safari with my iPhone and I can't get used to that additional step. I can't believe Chrome doesn't have a dedicated bookmark icon like Safari.
The stock browser also has no bookmarks icon. You need to tap 'Menu' then 'Bookmarks' just like Chrome. Puzzling.
Also the Chrome browser does not have a '.com' button on the keyboard. The stock browser on the One X (and Safari of course) do.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know of any Android browser that does have a bookmark icon? Dolphin perhaps? Opera? Perhaps Chrome will adopt this feature down the road.
Anyways, that serious gripe aside, I didn't walk away making a decision. I was banking on using Chrome if I jump ship, but this bookmarks issue really bothers me. I think I'm still going to wait till after WWDC to make a decision.
Lol. That sounds like a small insignificant problem to base your decision upon, don't you think?
Chrome's cloud syncing of the bookmarks with your desktop Chrome browser is better than anything else out there.
Accessing my desktop open tabs through the mobile chrome beta tops anything any other browser has ever done. Period.
We have a think called 'widgets'... there's a bookmark one that allows you to go straight to your bookmarked pages (without the browser even open in the first place)...
so that's a step less than the iphone technically. lol
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Lol. That sounds like a small insignificant problem to base your decision upon, don't you think?
Chrome's cloud syncing of the bookmarks with your desktop Chrome browser is better than anything else out there.
Accessing my desktop open tabs through the mobile chrome beta tops anything any other browser has ever done. Period.
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Not at all. It's an unnecessary extra step.
I'm not saying that alone would stop me from getting the One X. But I could not transition to Chrome or any Android browser that requires that extra step.
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We have a think called 'widgets'... there's a bookmark one that allows you to go straight to your bookmarked pages (without the browser even open in the first place)...
so that's a step less than the iphone technically. lol
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How exactly would that work though? And could I use it with Chrome and not the stock browser?
You can try Dolphin browser's latest version (it may still be in beta), which you swipe in from the left side and you can access the bookmark directly. No clicks!
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How exactly would that work though? And could I use it with Chrome and not the stock browser?
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Yes, the bookmarks widget asks you on your first use what browser you want to use, if you have more than one installed.
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How exactly would that work though? And could I use it with Chrome and not the stock browser?
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isn't the stock browser chrome? anyways, you have the option when you download a new browser, or you can default your favorite one and it will automatically open when you go to any webpage.
as far as how widgets work, you have many options. from a simple text or tile that takes you two that page, to fully updated previews that simply go full screen. folders, menus, scrollables, man, it's limitless...that's android.
Well it appears there is a solution to my gripe. (Widget or another browser.) Even with that said I still think Chrome should have a dedicated icon for your bookmarks like Safari does. Makes more sense then having to tap 'Menu'.
Well if you use chrome on your pc and have a home page set up to where you have pinned tabs "basically bookmarks", then you can log into the chrome browser and it will basically have a home page identical to the pc.
Edit: Dont quote me on that I cant quite remember if you have to do any extra steps because I uninstalled chrome because Im waiting on the HOX, simply tired of the captivate.
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Well if you use chrome on your pc and have a home page set up to where you have pinned tabs "basically bookmarks", then you can log into the chrome browser and it will basically have a home page identical to the pc.
Edit: Dont quote me on that I cant quite remember if you have to do any extra steps because I uninstalled chrome because Im waiting on the HOX, simply tired of the captivate.
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Does your Chrome have a little box next to the address bar? Isn't that essentially the same as the tabs? When I click on it and I have multiple pages open, it brings me to a view of all open tabs so I can choose the one I want...seems like tabs to me.
I am a little confused. Was this a review on the One X or on Chrome Beta?
^^^^ LOLOLOL +10000000
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Plus chrome is beta who knows it might have bookmark tab later
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I am a little confused. Was this a review on the One X or on Chrome Beta?
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Plus chrome is beta who knows it might have bookmark tab later
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...whole point of it having the 'beta' moniker still attatched to it.
The beauty of android is option. I agree with the lack of bookmark taking an extra step, so I use Quick ICS browser, it is based off of ICS default browser, downloaded from market. A simple swipe from either edge of phone brings up an awesome array of quick options. Take a look at the play store.. By far the best option out in my opinion.. You will fall in love with it I am sure. Also note this can be used in the default ICS browser, enabled under options.. Hope this helps.
Thanks for all the replies. This being Android, there are several options. Also Chrome is still in Beta. Maybe they'll bring a bookmarks button down the road. (Or not.)
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The beauty of android is option. I agree with the lack of bookmark taking an extra step, so I use Quick ICS browser, it is based off of ICS default browser, downloaded from market. A simple swipe from either edge of phone brings up an awesome array of quick options. Take a look at the play store.. By far the best option out in my opinion.. You will fall in love with it I am sure. Also note this can be used in the default ICS browser, enabled under options.. Hope this helps.
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The sheer genious of Apple is their understanding that the majority of the population don't WANT options. I don't have data back this, but I would bet anything that the vast majority of Android owners are also Windows PC or Linux OS users. This is because we are the types who WANT options. I want the freedom to change my CPU or graphics card on a whim, and I want the option to change the code in my phone. Most people don't. This is why there will always be Apple products vs something else.
I didn't completely get this until I bought my parents iPhones. It was the only smartphone my parents could figure out and they fell in love with it immediately. When I asked why, my mom replied "because I dont feel like I can screw it up by changing something." They liked something that they felt was set in stone and didnt have too many options.
This fundamental difference in personality type is also why 90% of iPhone vs Android (or Mac vs PC) arguments are ridiculous - it is often a matter of taste, not a matter of fact.
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The sheer genious of Apple is their understanding that the majority of the population don't WANT options.
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You're totally right, there are a lot of people out there that like being put into an environment where no matter what they do it will never be "wrong". They don't want to be scared to use their phone.
I love the choices android gives though. The funny part is that I'm a mac user, I just use my macbook as a hub, so I never tinker around with it (I like the box, lol) but when it comes to phones I love playing around with them.
And I'm sure chrome still has some tweaks left to do, like others have said, it's still in beta.