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These forums are getting littered with people asking for help after screwing up their phones trying to install CM7. Why are people who don't know what they're doing trying to install a ROM that is not yet fully functional? This should be left to devs who are trying to fix issues, not people who need their phones to work. I just don't get it.
I thought the topic was taken down.
Edit: Nevermind, the topic is still there. Imo though, I think it should be taken down and only progress be shown. Might prevent the massive amounts of bricking and general failure to read directions.
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Its actually pretty stable and works great long as you read step by step.
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Lol, gingerbread I suppose. :facepalm:
But yeah, they should know what they are doing. Otherwise, bricks ahoy!
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
Thats exactly it, Gingerbread.
41LY45 said:
Lol, gingerbread I suppose. :facepalm:
But yeah, they should know what they are doing. Otherwise, bricks ahoy!
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
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I bricked mine like 3 times trying to get "simple" Serendipity to work for the first time.
Gotta love the jig though. Didn't have one brick during the CM7 process though. Just a lot of resets back stock b/c of the mistakes.
41LY45 said:
Lol, gingerbread I suppose. :facepalm:
But yeah, they should know what they are doing. Otherwise, bricks ahoy!
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
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Lol, it's amazing how badly some people cream their pants over bigger version numbers.
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miahsoul said:
I bricked mine like 3 times trying to get "simple" Serendipity to work for the first time.
Gotta love the jig though. Didn't have one brick during the CM7 process though. Just a lot of resets back stock b/c of the mistakes.
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Tough luck brah.
Flashed Andromeda 1.0 for my first ROM. Worked like a charm.
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Lol, it's amazing how badly some people cream their pants over bigger version numbers.
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People are people and
It's Gingerbread!!
Not sure if gingerbread is worth the risks, but I'm happy that there's lots of people trying it out so I can use a stable release in the future.
lightswitch2159 said:
Thats exactly it, Gingerbread.
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And exactly what is in Gingerbread that makes salivating fools out of so many?
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Not sure if gingerbread is worth the risks, but I'm happy that there's lots of people trying it out so I can use a stable release in the future.
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Yeah, but too many of those people are ending up in here looking for help when it goes bad. It just takes up space and energy better used to solve issues with actual working ROMs. Let the Devs do the development work that they're so good at.
Probably because CM is a big name dev and people think it'll be superior to what they're currently using, oh, and like it was said earlier, Gingerbread... I don't see what the huge fuss is about with Gingerbread, nothing huge has changed from Froyo and Ice Cream is already in development so I think Gingerbread will turn out to be like the early 2.0 Eclair build, something to skip over until a big update is available.
CM isn't what it used to be back in its hayday with the G1/Dream and MT3G/Magic, so I'm not sure what people are expecting... Nothing against the CM team of course, the entire team does great work even if the releases are taking a really long time compared to before.
I'll be waiting it out, if I get an official Gingerbread update for either of my phones, I'll do them, otherwise I'm going to wait for the next big update which is actually worth installing... But I agree, there seems to be a huge deal about a simple update for no apparent reason at all, Its not like the Eclair > Froyo update which improved performance by a good margin, so really, there isn't much to gain by installing Gingerbread other than a few UI improvements (which most of us won't see anyways since we all use 3rd party launchers).
Here's a perfect example of how dangerous this place can be sometimes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11894653&postcount=8
She just joined, just got a Captivate and already she's asking about flashing CM7. Apparently, none of the warnings were enough, she's willing to take the advice of absolute strangers, some who are willing to push her onward.
It's that damn lock crt-off animation. It's our generation's version of the three sirens, and instead of sail boats, we have android phones
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These forums are getting littered with people asking for help after screwing up their phones trying to install CM7. Why are people who don't know what they're doing trying to install a ROM that is not yet fully functional? This should be left to devs who are trying to fix issues, not people who need their phones to work. I just don't get it.
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I haven't flashed it because I don't know what I'm doing, scared and too lazy to start messing with odin or the like, but I understand the urge. By all accounts it's stable enough. I'll probably give it a go within a few days. At which point, if I brick my phone, I'll get a new one and consider it a learning experience. Plus, based on what I read yesterday it's never going to be as simple as updating a .zip anyway, so I might as well cross that bridge sooner rather than later.
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It's that damn lock crt-off animation. It's our generation's version of the three sirens, and instead of sail boats, we have android phones
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And yes, I'm not one bit ashamed of lusting for the obvious the gimmick. Gingerbread CRT out animation alone would be worth the risk, tbh, much less the whole gingerbread rom.
If people refuse to heed warnings, its their own fault.
As for Gingerbread, I can't speak for the others, but I want SIP support.
JVM improvements
Gingerbread claimed to have faster garbage collection and OpenGL among other things. It will probably have bigger memory footprint on a downside.
I will wait til Audience noise suppression support is there, which is likely never.
I will probably try it when Voodoo Sound and OC/UV are in the kernel, and all major bugs fixed. This likely to happen with the help of Galaxy S community.
I don't get the attitude towards being more AOSPish. AOSP is already out there. It is Samsung Captivate which needs native driver support to have all its internals fully functional.
I keep Torch 1.5 as a workhorse for now.
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I haven't flashed it because I don't know what I'm doing, scared and too lazy to start messing with odin or the like, but I understand the urge. By all accounts it's stable enough. I'll probably give it a go within a few days. At which point, if I brick my phone, I'll get a new one and consider it a learning experience. Plus, based on what I read yesterday it's never going to be as simple as updating a .zip anyway, so I might as well cross that bridge sooner rather than later.
And yes, I'm not one bit ashamed of lusting for the obvious the gimmick. Gingerbread CRT out animation alone would be worth the risk, tbh, much less the whole gingerbread rom.
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Yes, that cursed crt animation. Was drooling over it on preview vid.
The risk of bricking my everyday phone w/o a jig prevents me from doing so.
Swyped from my Froyo-ed Captivate.
bravomail said:
Gingerbread claimed to have faster garbage collection and OpenGL among other things. It will probably have bigger memory footprint on a downside.
I will wait til Audience noise suppression support is there, which is likely never.
I will probably try it when Voodoo Sound and OC/UV are in the kernel, and all major bugs fixed. This likely to happen with the help of Galaxy S community.
I don't get the attitude towards being more AOSPish. AOSP is already out there. It is Samsung Captivate which needs native driver support to have all its internals fully functional.
I keep Torch 1.5 as a workhorse for now.
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There is no aosp for the captivate. Cm is built from actual source compared to piece together roms...which have been good by the way. And why create a thread about cm7 and peoples motives for flashing? Its new...that's why I flashed it! I have never used cm before so I personally wanted to see what it was like. It is the best rom I have used for speed without any lagfix. People have started flashing phones since I have been a member with no experience...it is going to stay that way. It hasn't just started with cm.
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There is no aosp for the captivate. Cm is built from actual source compared to piece together roms...which have been good by the way. And why create a thread about cm7 and peoples motives for flashing? Its new...that's why I flashed it! I have never used cm before so I personally wanted to see what it was like. It is the best rom I have used for speed without any lagfix. People have started flashing phones since I have been a member with no experience...it is going to stay that way. It hasn't just started with cm.
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True, but while every ROM has its share of issues, I see more posts from people who tried to flash CM7 and had it go horribly wrong than any other. It is a completely different animal as far as flashing goes.
I have been using this build for quite a while now and decided to write a review of the ROM. Please keep in mind I am not a developer !!! I am simply writing this from a user standpoint and cannot nor will not support your problems. This is a review based on my opinions and usage of the ROM.
Pros:
I do like the UI. It is fairly stable and I haven't had much trouble out of it for the most part. The combination of ADW Launcher and the Cyanogen settings are great. The speed of the ROM is pretty good for a ported ROM based on GingerBread. I can't complain much about that. General things that I like are the advanced menus for customizing the dock and theme settings. The themed settings change icons for contacts, mail, messaging, phone, browser,calendar, and videos ( I may have missed some). The cyanogen settings cover an array of things that you can poke at but in my opinion should be included with stock builds as well. Overall if you were wanting to use this on a daily basis I think you would be ok to go ahead and install this ROM... NOTE: Don't hold me responsible if you brick your phone trying. It isn't one of the easiest roms I've
ever installed. The sleep policy has been fixed so that the phone doesn't reboot on unlock...which on my first flash hadn't been fixed and really really turned me off from this ROM.
Cons: I have yet to figure out why this is (again not a dev) but your microSD card will not mount when connected to the pc. I'm sure they are working on this but I haven't downloaded an update or nightly (which is current at the time of this post btw) that has fixed it. I do have some random picky things that I can't get an answer to, and good luck if you do...feel free to send them to me also. Some of my .mp3 ringtones will not work period. Different ones of even larger file size work... I'm not sure how that works out. Text messaging (native) doesn't work for incoming or outgoing... But I will say that I was having issues with that before so I can't blame that on this ROM. There are a few apps that won't work with this build easy uninstaller is one, I just get a fc. Battery is another issue that may be addressed with future releases. I don't run GPS (so don't ask if it's accurate) but keep wifi on all the time. I get probably about 8 hours with wifi on all the time. Not the best but definitely not the worst. You also cannot charge the phone while it is off... really not sure why, and the extended power menu doesn't work. And for the most part is an in depth install procedure... Back to stock with odin, flash two kernals, then a couple of files... Pretty lengthy and you have to be precise or else it bricks. Here it is if your interested... Thanks to MobileTechVideos for the instructions and video.
How to install CyanogenMod7
Other than that I have had virtually no problems (that I consider major) with this ROM and do like it and will probably continue to use it. If you have any general questions please feel free to ask. Again, again... I am not a dev so questions of that nature should be posted here: CyanogenMod7
I tried it and liked what works but it is still alpha quality and so i will wait for a few weeks until i give it another shot.
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I tried it and liked what works but it is still alpha quality and so i will wait for a few weeks until i give it another shot.
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I agree, it is definitely still a beta build and as noted by Cyanogen... hasn't been put into the stable build section of their forums. I do look forward to a stable build. Perhaps the Dev's can address some of the weird issues that I mentioned above.
i also was not able to send multi media mms never would go through i tried for 20 mins to receive and send ,
this rom is great but here is why it sucks, i watch the cyanogen nightlies for the galaxy s phones, and with the types of updates im seeing on the cappy versus lets say the vibrant , there is no ****ing hope and this rom is dead.
the last update fixed an install file wtf. so at this rate cyanogen will be rc in o id say next year. ill have a new phone by then. my money is on miui
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I agree, it is definitely still a beta build and as noted by Cyanogen... hasn't been put into the stable build section of their forums. I do look forward to a stable build. Perhaps the Dev's can address some of the weird issues that I mentioned above.
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Well you completely forgot to mention that, currently it cannot handle lots of video format, most importantly mkv and even if you find something like Rock Player, there's a lot of lag in it. You cannot charge the phone while its off (because it'll turn on as soon as you plug the charger in). Also, you might encounter a totally new problem which you may not have an idea about. If captivate is your spare phone then play with it else stay away for a while until a RC is released.
This is just my opinion from 3 days of experience on CM7.
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It was a total flop for me :/
It ran well when I first installed it, but started running "funny" (random crashing) after I installed gapps, then totally started crapping out after the 3/16 update.
I ended up ditching it for a 2.2 rom, mostly because I didn't feel I was gaining anything substantive and losing things I regularly use, like a feature rich camera app and divx playback support.
Been running for 3 days. 0 problems.
I've ran into a few bugs. External SD, booting when usb plugged in. Only charging to 95% (apparently a feature not a bug). At one point my signal shot down to searching, then it recovered and grabbed a signal. Not sure what caused that, but it was random.
I also cannot get it to mount to my PC. Kind of annoying, but if I need to transfer anything I just use dropbox.
I like it, and I think I'll keep with it. Even though it isn't 100%, I love gingerbread, and it's working for me.
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Well you completely forgot to mention that, currently it cannot handle lots of video format, most importantly mkv and even if you find something like Rock Player, there's a lot of lag in it. You cannot charge the phone while its off (because it'll turn on as soon as you plug the charger in). Also, you might encounter a totally new problem which you may not have an idea about. If captivate is your spare phone then play with it else stay away for a while until a RC is released.
This is just my opinion from 3 days of experience on CM7.
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I did forget that you cannot charge the phone while off and now that you mention it the extended power menu doesn't work either. It is fairly aggravating that Cyanogen updates the vibrant with "real" fixes other than this fixing little things but... All in all, it is still usable, just not stable or reliable.
Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.
I am on it from I think last friday...Not a single problem...atleast how i use it...of course except battery life...which I am trying to solve...
Rock player worked well for me...I watched couple of movies when I was on road....never lagged just stopped couple of times....
great GPS...instant locks...i am amazed...But I also tried MIUI...and it is very very fast...and something different which I never experienced before...I think people should give it a try...ofcourse it has bugs too as it based on CM7...but they fixed camera bug and little stuff.....
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Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.
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I am by no means saying that it is ready for the masses... The only one that I would suggest without a second thought to someone who isn't willing to deal with at least some problems is Cognition Series by DesignGears. To my knowledge (and opinion) this is the absolute best rom for the captivate. IF ... Cyanogen gets to the point of a Cognition rom in function and use, then I might suggest it for the masses but not until then.
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Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.
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Your right in regard to it not being ready for most users (many are already praising the miui 2.3.3 also which is even less stable.....not saying it isn't promising). I think it breaks into 2 camps.
1. If you are a power user that wants all aspects of your device to function as intended...not for you. More specifically, If you use an external SD especially if your moving files to and from mounted to a PC....this is not the rom for you (this is my biggest gripe at this point). If you do lots of video in different formats...not for you as you will face compatibility issues. If you have to ask how your flash back to stock....this is probably not for you. If you value battery life as a top priority...not yet for you. Most of the other deficiencies or shortcomings had adequate work arounds but you until the major issues are resolved you will quickly find yourself flashing back to Phoenix, Firefly, Serendipity, Andromeda, etc.)
2. If you don't use and external SD and/or do much media vid/music then i can see why many view this as "stable" for their purposes. The UI, menus, and animations are smooth/fast and i never really had any issues with force closes while using it. Maybe its better linguistically to say its incomplete rather than refer to is as unstable and sorry if it offends the early adopters but if you are using it as your daily driver its pretty obvious you are using an inferior rom @ this point.
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I am by no means saying that it is ready for the masses... The only one that I would suggest without a second thought to someone who isn't willing to deal with at least some problems is Cognition Series by DesignGears. To my knowledge (and opinion) this is the absolute best rom for the captivate. IF ... Cyanogen gets to the point of a Cognition rom in function and use, then I might suggest it for the masses but not until then.
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i would easily put a handful of roms on par with cognition:
Firefly, Supernova, Phoenix, Serendipity, Andromeda.
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Your right in regard to it not being ready for most users (many are already praising the miui 2.3.3 also which is even less stable.....not saying it isn't promising). I think it breaks into 2 camps.
1. If you are a power user that wants all aspects of your device to function as intended...not for you. More specifically, If you use an external SD especially if your moving files to and from mounted to a PC....this is not the rom for you (this is my biggest gripe at this point). If you do lots of video in different formats...not for you as you will face compatibility issues. If you have to ask how your flash back to stock....this is probably not for you. If you value battery life as a top priority...not yet for you. Most of the other deficiencies or shortcomings had adequate work arounds but you until the major issues are resolved you will quickly find yourself flashing back to Phoenix, Firefly, Serendipity, Andromeda, etc.)
2. If you don't use and external SD and/or do much media vid/music then i can see why many view this as "stable" for their purposes. The UI, menus, and animations are smooth/fast and i never really had any issues with force closes while using it. Maybe its better linguistically to say its incomplete rather than refer to is as unstable and sorry if it offends the early adopters but if you are using it as your daily driver its pretty obvious you are using an inferior rom @ this point.
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Excellent post.
Glad to see users sharing their experience on CM7. This is always good foe the community. I hope to see new users to read this thread prior to making any decision whether to flash CM7 2.3.3 or not.
On another note, I'm sure once Samsung do final release of Gingerbread 2.3.3 for i9000 series (last I heard that an early beta was released), we cappyites will see stable release.
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Regarding the phone turning on when charging, I believe it's a gingerbread "feature". It's been said that it is working as intended. Also, the iphone does the same thing so I don't really see it as an issue. It's probably google seeing behavior they like and implementing it.
You can not mount the external sd but you can transfer to your internal then on the phone transfer to external, so I am not certain it Is fair to say you can not use your external sd. Video is an issue, and battery is as well.
At this point in time it is a trade off, there are several things cm7 can't do well or can not do at all. there are also several things it does much better than any 2.2 rom or are not available on 2.2 roms.
Its all preference and priorities. Kinda like any best rom discussion.
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Every time I try and warn someone that CM7 is not yet ready for primetime I get bashed for it, yet there seem to be plenty of people echoing my comments. Like I said in another thread, the people that are saying CM7 is stable and works great are either not using their device to its full potential or are willing to live without certain features. There is really no compelling reason to live with a ROM that has this many bugs or deficiencies when you consider how many really good ROMs there are available for our Cappys that have few, if any, issues. Yeah, they may not have Gingerbready theming or cutesy animations, but they just work. Andromeda 1.2 is one that comes to mind.
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Largely it its because you have never used it, and have only tried one rom. That and you are compelled to jump on any thread that mentions it as if it is a personal mission. It its not as if you do not make some valid points, but it is not hard to see why it may rub some the wrong way after a while.
This is not an attempt to start something, but your comments make it seem like there is no warrant to people who go back at you.
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Largely it its because you have never used it, and have only tried one rom. That and you are compelled to jump on any thread that mentions it as if it is a personal mission. It its not as if you do not make some valid points, but it is not hard to see why it may rub some the wrong way after a while.
This is not an attempt to start something, but your comments make it seem like there is no warrant to people who go back at you.
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Agreed... I was not trying to start a thread to bash any rom. However I do know that there are some hard feelings that are out based on certain features that work or don't and peoples impressions about the ROM itself. I also know that there is quite a bit of loyalty to certain ROM creators that no matter what they aren't going to be going to a new ROM simply because they are loyal to that dev... which is fine! I simply wanted to create an avenue for people who have used the ROM to pass along information and opinions on the ROM to people who are thinking about switching to it. People are entitled to their opinions and I am all for that... Just don't bash any of the devs or their work, it is not easy putting this stuff together and I for one am happy that I have a place I can go to that allows me to get away from stock. I hope that all will realize that
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Largely it its because you have never used it, and have only tried one rom. That and you are compelled to jump on any thread that mentions it as if it is a personal mission. It its not as if you do not make some valid points, but it is not hard to see why it may rub some the wrong way after a while.
This is not an attempt to start something, but your comments make it seem like there is no warrant to people who go back at you.
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The terminology might be better as incomplete instead of unstable. great post.
Guys, just wanted to know your thoughts, if its advisable to move to GB on Captivate or remain on Froyo. In short, what are the advantages of moving to GB, over Froyo on Captivate, other than GB being the latest and greatest. I'm not sure if Captivate hardware at this point, can be supported completely by GB yet or other way around.
So let the discussion begin
I'm using miui and I love it. Had serendipity before and battery life is so much better with gb.
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GR-12, I9000 reoriented vG.1.2 and UGKC1 modem works better than any other I9000 port I have ever used. GPS is way better without any "fixes" added!
Don't be fooled by the "glowing" testimonials. All the GB ROMs are still in development and have some issues. It just depends on whether you can live with those issues or not. If you need everything on your phone to work properly, stick with a Froyo-based ROM for now.
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GR-12, I9000 reoriented vG.1.2 and UGKC1 modem works better than any other I9000 port I have ever used. GPS is way better without any "fixes" added!
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You mean that GPS is better on GB ? I never had any issues with GPS in all the latest Froyo ROM's.
I think GB is just better out of box! Better performance, FANTASTIC (comparatively) GPS, stability, and bragging rights to me friends (maybe that one is just me ha).
The only disadvantage is the lack of variety. There are GB ROMs surfacing, but it'll take time before we have more than maybe 5 to choose from, with 1 or 2 elites (well, that's with froyo as well regardless of the number of ROMs IMHO).
Basically, the choice is yours. I love GB, but it has presented some unforseen problems on some of my friends' phones and I've had to fix them (nothing major, just randomness).
There's my two cents!
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Don't be fooled by the "glowing" testimonials. All the GB ROMs are still in development and have some issues. It just depends on whether you can live with those issues or not. If you need everything on your phone to work properly, stick with a Froyo-based ROM for now.
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Yea, to be frank, I did use a couple of GB ROM's and they were good, but lots of bugs still to be fixed. I personally felt the only 2 reasons to go to GB was bcoz it was the latest/greatest and some GB ROM's support Netflix
P.S: One of my favorite apps Galaxy Tuner doesn't work on GB
I have been using continuum 5 for a couple of days and for me, it's been better than stock froyo for sure.
Speed, battery life, bluetooth connection and reliability, etc...
Try it for yourself to be sure, cause you cat ask 100 different people here and get 100 different answers.
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You mean that GPS is better on GB ? I never had any issues with GPS in all the latest Froyo ROM's.
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You have a newer build? Mine is 1007, sucked eggs without a nudge.
Miami_Son said:
Don't be fooled by the "glowing" testimonials. All the GB ROMs are still in development and have some issues. It just depends on whether you can live with those issues or not. If you need everything on your phone to work properly, stick with a Froyo-based ROM for now.
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How many GB roms have you tried? I'm on GR-12 after trying every gb release to date and have zero problems and full functionality. Better than any froyo rom I've used and I've used most of them.
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How many GB roms have you tried? I'm on GR-12 after trying every gb release to date and have zero problems and full functionality.
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Here's the problem with anecdotal evidence, it only applies to the person giving it. What you consider to be "zero problems and full functionality" is only relevant to the way YOU use your phone. It doesn't mean everyone using that ROM will have the exact same experience because they likely don't use their phone exactly as you do. Reading the various GB ROM threads, there's enough people having issues ranging from minor to major to validate my statement. I don't have to use the ROM to see that. There's a reason "best ROM" threads get deleted or closed in here. It's because what works for one may not work for another. Rather than try to pass off my experience with a ROM I prefer to caution people not to accept the "glowing reviews" without a grain of salt. Maybe there'd be less people with problems if they were just a little hesitant to jump into flashing XYZ ROM based on those glowing reviews.
All gb based roms, as they are right now, are full of bugs/problems. Anyone who states otherwise is either a liar a fan boy or just doesn't know what they are talking about. Period.
GB roms have better battery life which is very important for me. and gallery flies : )
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Here's the thing, GB is the future around here. Very little development is continuing on froyo roms. One very popular rom is being finished by it's developer and a few others are also being finalized. The focus is rapidly shifting to GB for obvious reasons, it's just better and has way more potential. Personally I've had no issues with it and find it every bit as stable as the best froyo roms.
You will never know if you don't try it how it will run for you, but reading threads and listening to people complain about this and that can be found in any rom thread, froyo or GB.
bigbooty said:
Here's the thing, GB is the future around here. Very little development is continuing on froyo roms. One very popular rom is being finished by it's developer and a few others are also being finalized. The focus is rapidly shifting to GB for obvious reasons, it's just better and has way more potential. Personally I've had no issues with it and find it every bit as stable as the best froyo roms.
You will never know if you don't try it how it will run for you, but reading threads and listening to people complain about this and that can be found in any rom thread, froyo or GB.
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The problem is that because it is the next big thing, there are those who are jumping into it who have neither the expertise or ability to fix it when it goes wrong. I see people who haven't even mastered the simpler task of updating from Eclair to Froyo willing to start right off with the more complex procedure of flashing a GB ROM. Then many of those people (if they don't screw up the flash) end up trying to go back not knowing anything about the changed bootloaders and they end up in a world of hurt. The forums are filled with them and their issues. I'm all for experimentation, but human nature often overrides common sense and you get too many people who would rather jump feet first into the deep end and then come looking for someone to throw them a life preserver instead of putting on a flotation device before going into the water.
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The problem is that because it is the next big thing, there are those who are jumping into it who have neither the expertise or ability to fix it when it goes wrong. I see people who haven't even mastered the simpler task of updating from Eclair to Froyo willing to start right off with the more complex procedure of flashing a GB ROM. Then many of those people (if they don't screw up the flash) end up trying to go back not knowing anything about the changed bootloaders and they end up in a world of hurt. The forums are filled with them and their issues. I'm all for experimentation, but human nature often overrides common sense and you get too many people who would rather jump feet first into the deep end and then come looking for someone to throw them a life preserver instead of putting on a flotation device before going into the water.
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Thats a personal decision. I'm not about to tell someone not to try something, it should be their decision based on how comfortable they feel about the process. In reality it's more like 1 or 2% who end up with serious issues, I believe it was icezar who confirmed those percentages. If people take the time and read the instructions, it's no more difficult than flashing froyo. I remember a few bricks when froyo roms started appearing. Your always going to have some idiots who don't read first and get in trouble. Thats why all Devs post a disclaimer in their original posts. User beware no matter what you flash.
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I haven't ran into any problems that have warranted switching back to Froyo ROMs yet. Sure, they're not as polished as some of the Froyo ROMs, but it's not something you can notice right off the bat anyways, unless you're a developer yourself and actually looks for bugs/problems.
Went MIUI a couple of hours ago.
Now i find myself restoring back apps on A3 via TiBu.
Spoiled by stablity.
GR-12 actually got me to use my Captivate again, and even though I sold it, it worked fine for everything I used it for. That's texting, talking on the phone, and GPS, to name a few. Bluetooth may not work while your streaming Pandora as you drive down the road using the calculator, but I didn't really try any of that.
CM7 Inspire 4G
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You have a newer build? Mine is 1007, sucked eggs without a nudge.
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Mine is 1009 and GPS doesn't work on any custom ROM, used to work on stock 2.1.
Ok, normally its a no brainer as im used to CM7 on the G2, but i have been reading there is a lot of bugs with it (i have not read since nightly release 17 or so and i think its up to 30 or something around that now so i gotta catch up a bit i just got the phone today). I also read that eaglesbread or something like that is mentioned all over the place. normally i would not ask this question, but with this phone there is a lot of issues and want to clarify everything.
im an avid CM7 user, so trying other roms makes me nervous, so overall what has been the best ROM where everything works (gps, wifi, 4g, reboots, etc etc etc)
I would also like a rom with an overclockable kernel built in, as im kinda nervous about flashing kernels, but please feel free to share combos of roms and kernels that work outstanding as well. again, im used to a G2, so over there i dont ask this question, as i started and will continue to use CM7 on my G2.
my G2x is already rooted.
You are going to get alot of opinions cause at this point in time no rom is that much better then any other
Now wait for a while longer and I am sure it would be an easier answer
tweezit said:
You are going to get alot of opinions cause at this point in time no rom is that much better then any other
Now wait for a while longer and I am sure it would be an easier answer
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lol, sadly in the back of my mind, thats what i was thinking.
usually before i buy a phone, first thing i look for is how easy it is to root, then i look at hardware, then roms and stability. as you can tell, i have been trolling the G2x forums for almost 2 weeks now looking around and have not seen anything that is straight forward like on the G2, but i also got the G2 in feb 2011, so it was already out for a while prior to my purchase compared to this phone has been out for what 3-4 weeks now?
my initial plan was to stick with stock rom, just root it and change the font and remove some bloatware and wait for the official GB update and install it manually from one of our great developers on this site
my device has very very minor screen bleed at each of the 4 corners and even that was hard to find, screen build quality seems good and all day under moderate use has not locked up on me. i will have to figure out why wifi was having an issue with me, but my G2 was also have wifi lockups that it never had before so it may be an issue on my end. but 4G connectivity has been working 100%.
tackleberry said:
lol, sadly in the back of my mind, thats what i was thinking.
usually before i buy a phone, first thing i look for is how easy it is to root, then i look at hardware, then roms and stability. as you can tell, i have been trolling the G2x forums for almost 2 weeks now looking around and have not seen anything that is straight forward like on the G2, but i also got the G2 in feb 2011, so it was already out for a while prior to my purchase compared to this phone has been out for what 3-4 weeks now?
my initial plan was to stick with stock rom, just root it and change the font and remove some bloatware and wait for the official GB update and install it manually from one of our great developers on this site
my device has very very minor screen bleed at each of the 4 corners and even that was hard to find, screen build quality seems good and all day under moderate use has not locked up on me. i will have to figure out why wifi was having an issue with me, but my G2 was also have wifi lockups that it never had before so it may be an issue on my end. but 4G connectivity has been working 100%.
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If you're a Cm fan, now's the time to jump on board. #34 is fairly stable. I use it as my day to day. The battery readings are still f'd up something major. Bionix is a really nice rom. Smooth and clean, and really no major bugs that I noticed. I rocked that for about 7 days, in between #26 and #33 CM. The battery goes fast with Bionix however...if the reading is, in fact, correct.
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If you're a Cm fan, now's the time to jump on board. #34 is fairly stable. I use it as my day to day. The battery readings are still f'd up something major. Bionix is a really nice rom. Smooth and clean, and really no major bugs that I noticed. I rocked that for about 7 days, in between #26 and #33 CM. The battery goes fast with Bionix however...if the reading is, in fact, correct.
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Thanks for the input, would you mind clarifying what you mean by fairly stable?
Nonsense!
I've been using Eagles Blood 1.04 Froyo for about a week now and its been great. I chose this one because it looks stock and I like that (black status bar is a nice mod too). Everything has worked fine: wifi, calls, GPS, 4G, good battery life, etc. I tried a couple Gingerbread variants but I had too many issues -- freezes, major keyboard lag, GPS not locking on. Haven't tried CM yet, although I loved it on my Nexus One.
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There are some freezes with any of the roms when you use the kernels but what do you expect when you overclock to 1.5? From my experience the most stable set up for me is running stock froyo or EB froyo, but I always change my mind and go to GB and CM7 so go figure. Mind you the freezes for me are about 3 times a day and are annoying but the trade off IMHO is worth it
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There are some freezes with any of the roms when you use the kernels but what do you expect when you overclock to 1.5? From my experience the most stable set up for me is running stock froyo or EB froyo, but I always change my mind and go to GB and CM7 so go figure. Mind you the freezes for me are about 3 times a day and are annoying but the trade off IMHO is worth it
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I am running the froyo eb. 04. Seems pretty good. Battery life has improved a lot so far. I do want volume button wake but I haven't read where that was yet or if its even available I just remember seeing it somewhere.
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tried them all and like eaglesblood the best!
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I would also like a rom with an overclockable kernel built in, as im kinda nervous about flashing kernels
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You should be much more concerned about overclocking your device than flashing a kernel. You really don't have much to fear, just dont get careless.
CM is a crowd favorite but its not for me so I dont think you would benefit from my opinion on the available roms.
I just encourage you to take a deep breath and start flashing rom to rom. You just might find that you like something else a lot more.
Faux asop is pretty solid for me. His latest with kernel is doing well so far. I haven't had the random loss in audio lately. If the battery is wrong I don't care because I am ocd and it helps me not worry!
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I have come to like stock Froyo the most, without bloatware of course.
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Cm7 and faux aosp is epic win right now. I'm waiting on krylon to release bionix rc2.....
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You should be much more concerned about overclocking your device than flashing a kernel. You really don't have much to fear, just dont get careless.
CM is a crowd favorite but its not for me so I dont think you would benefit from my opinion on the available roms.
I just encourage you to take a deep breath and start flashing rom to rom. You just might find that you like something else a lot more.
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Same here. I liked cyanogen mod up through 4.1.11.1 on my G1 but ever since then there have been roms that are both faster and more stable. Props to cyanogen for influencing the movement though. Not knocking him, just not my style anymore... going to try faux's aosp I think.
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Anyone have an update on their favorites? Seems like we've had an explosion of new ROMs lately.
Hey devs, might you want to consolidate your efforts a bit?
I wrote out a whole post but realized it was mostly rambling so I figured I would condense it, although its still pretty rambling:
It seems like our phone (Maxx HD) just missed the developer bandwagon and that roms aren't really going anywhere and never actually will. Everything seems like a quick port and I have had very little success with most of them. The only stable one I have found has been Nexesque, although its basically stock with a few tweaks and add-ons.
I have been running XenonHD for the past 2ish weeks, 3 maybe with horrible battery life and a heat problem. I was running with all of the regular performance tweeks, a very dark blue (almost black) solid background, low brightness and a black theme so I have no idea what could have caused it. I would run out of full battery by 12 or 1 half of the time with an incredibly hot phone, and the other half of the time I could make it to 6 or 7 but no later. I have reflashed and am almost positive I followed the steps correctly.
I'm not asking what the best rom is, but I'm asking if there is a rom that people are actually happy with out there (preferably 4.2) or if there are any real hopes for a tangible one to come out in the near future. It seems like we're kind of screwed as the user when compared to other phones development, and while I have nothing to offer outside of small donations I would just like to know if my predictions are accurate. Is everybody waiting for something that will never come out?
VCavs said:
I wrote out a whole post but realized it was mostly rambling so I figured I would condense it, although its still pretty rambling:
It seems like our phone (Maxx HD) just missed the developer bandwagon and that roms aren't really going anywhere and never actually will. Everything seems like a quick port and I have had very little success with most of them. The only stable one I have found has been Nexesque, although its basically stock with a few tweaks and add-ons.
I have been running XenonHD for the past 2ish weeks, 3 maybe with horrible battery life and a heat problem. I was running with all of the regular performance tweeks, a very dark blue (almost black) solid background, low brightness and a black theme so I have no idea what could have caused it. I would run out of full battery by 12 or 1 half of the time with an incredibly hot phone, and the other half of the time I could make it to 6 or 7 but no later. I have reflashed and am almost positive I followed the steps correctly.
I'm not asking what the best rom is, but I'm asking if there is a rom that people are actually happy with out there (preferably 4.2) or if there are any real hopes for a tangible one to come out in the near future. It seems like we're kind of screwed as the user when compared to other phones development, and while I have nothing to offer outside of small donations I would just like to know if my predictions are accurate. Is everybody waiting for something that will never come out?
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To be honest I think you need to step back and put everything in prospective.hash dh etc are working on a from scratch kernel that will fix the nagging problems the 4.2.2 roms have had. This kernel is a work in progress, but I think it will be finished to a point acceptable to most people soonish. That being said, besides the annoying gps flash from stock issue and no camcorder I'm not sure there are any major bugs with the 4.2.2 roms. There have been a lot of ports because there are a lot of good roms out there for other devices that people wanted to bring over. We were "screwed" when we bought the phone as this phone had a locked bootloader(with no apparent unlock) and there were never a ton of devs to begin on moto due to the same bootloader issue. That being said, I think a lot of devs have rallied around the hd since the unlock and things will only get better after hash gets the kernel up to speed. I agree nexesque is awesome (it's what I'm running right now in fact) but there are already a lot of choices on each of the 4 most popular forums.
Tl/dr patience lol
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I really like this device atm I am using stock Rogers Fw . I have tried many of the 4.2 I prefer to hang back and let it get better the phone itself is a nice piece
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I imagine that we will probably also get get an android update at some point (though very unclear what and when). Maybe this will renew developer interest in the device?
I the meantime I hope the kernel development will play out well.
Personally, even if I love personalization and community development, I actually think the stock rom (xt925 Vodafone) is quite good. Good battery life and better ui than much of the competition.
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