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First off, hello, i am new to the forums and am a happy owner of a nexus one. I think it is a great phone, especially the insane hardware, and i like the android OS.
However i do have one issue with it. the stock android theme does not feel as good as the rest of the phone does. one of the things that make the iphone great is its UI. it just feels robust and high quality, which is something apple is know for. i love the android OS, but the stock icons, notification bar, and menus just dont feel quite as high quality as the device itself. if the iphone OS is based on os x, the silver and green of the android UI are reminiscent of windows XP.
i don't want to start an iphone VS nexus argument (as i clearly love my nexus one and have never owned an iphone) but i just wanted to see if i am the only one with this feeling.
NOTE: i have not rooted my nexus yet, i am still hoping for a relock. also, after looking at many themes, none IMHO has been able to create a true look of a high quality stock theme. Dont get me wrong, there are some pretty incredible themes out there, just none that are truely great.
in other words: do you agree that android needs a facelift?
I can't say I agree with u on any of those points.
Just yesterday me and my friends were discussing how the iPhone OS is nice but looking very outdated compared to android 2.1, I mean the icons are so much better on android not to mention the res.
If u want u can make it look just like an iPhone, just unimaginably clog up your home screens with nothing but icons : )
I don't really see the resemblance to windows, only that android has more of a desktop feel to it.
i agree with you about the incredible resolution. i dont want to emulate the iphone theme, that was just an example of a "solid" user interface. i just think the color choices, and several of the icons, and other images just dont look quite as high quality as they could be, especially on a phone with a 800X480 resolution.
I don't see what people like about the iphone. The only thing I ever liked about the iphone is the smoothness of its OS. Everything else is horrible.
I would never, ever give up the Android os, with the awesome notification window/bar, on screen widgets and direct toggles to different parts of the phone (direct text, calls, different app or system functions, etc...) for a phone with nothing but block after block after block. Nothing appealing about the iphone OS other than its smoothness.
Really, does anyone prefer Iphone home screen with nuttin but blocks or a home screen streamlined with news, weather and pretty much whatever else you need quick access to?
I have to agree that I think the stock UI looks like it is stuck in Win95 mode. However, I urge you to check out Manup's NexTheme. That's the one I have on my N1, and I love it. I think it adds just enough polish to make it good to look at. The black everything gives it a clean and futuristic feel, too. That will be my theme as long as he keeps up with Cyanogen.
EErez said:
First off, hello, i am new to the forums and am a happy owner of a nexus one. I think it is a great phone, especially the insane hardware, and i like the android OS.
However i do have one issue with it. the stock android theme does not feel as good as the rest of the phone does. one of the things that make the iphone great is its UI. it just feels robust and high quality, which is something apple is know for. i love the android OS, but the stock icons, notification bar, and menus just dont feel quite as high quality as the device itself. if the iphone OS is based on os x, the silver and green of the android UI are reminiscent of windows XP.
i don't want to start an iphone VS nexus argument (as i clearly love my nexus one and have never owned an iphone) but i just wanted to see if i am the only one with this feeling.
NOTE: i have not rooted my nexus yet, i am still hoping for a relock. also, after looking at many themes, none IMHO has been able to create a true look of a high quality stock theme. Dont get me wrong, there are some pretty incredible themes out there, just none that are truely great.
in other words: do you agree that android needs a facelift?
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That's the beauty though.
You don't like something? then change it.
There is no possible way anyone could design an OS that everyone loves the look of.
You just happen to be one of those who don't like it.
Ummmm... What?
I have to agree with everyone else.
Android UI has such a better feeling that my iPhone did. I liked my iPhone for about 2 months then it began to get Boring. I did come from an Android UI, so i was kind of spoiled. but from an owner of both a Nexus, and an iPhone. I say the Nexus wins hands down. not only for the crazy hardware, but specially for the UI. Android FTW.
Amdathlonuk said:
That's the beauty though.
You don't like something? then change it.
There is no possible way anyone could design an OS that everyone loves the look of.
You just happen to be one of those who don't like it.
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i guess you are right.
if only i could relock the bootloader as a safety net...
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this because it seems everyone around here is in love with Sense UI, but it drives me nuts. Especially that stupid Genius button. I now have to waste an entire row of my home screen with the Google search widget.
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Sense!
Seriously, I can't stand it. I LOVE the hardware on this phone but am thinking of returning it and buying something used and rootable so I can install a vanilla version of Android.
Despite the facts that I would never use the physical keyboard and would rather have the front facing camera and the faster processor, I almost bought the G2 just for the clean version of Android.
Just curious if anyone else feels this way. I swear, if I could just double the RAM on my original MT3G, I would be satisfied to overclock it to 614 or so and go on my merry way.
I feel your pain.
I'm not a fan of any UI overlays, they just don't seem to add much. Most of their features are already part of Android.
I'm leaning to purchasing the MT4G, just waiting for full root first. Pretty sure I'm going to drop some coins into the pot for the devs next pay day.
1. G2 and mt4g have simlar processors, just that the g2 is underclocked. So they are capable of the SAME SPEEDS.
2. Sense, especially expresso on the mytouch, is absolute garbage! Its so ugly I can't believe people actually like it. It looks waaay to much like an iphone...only uglier.
3. I honetly don't care about ffc, if I need to video chat, then I can just use the one on the back of the g2.
4. Keyboard on the g2 is brilliant. Add in the fact that it comes with swype makes it ridiculous. Sorry you don't like physical keyboards, but I absolutely love this one. By far one of the p-keyboards...ever.
5. Screen on the g2 is slcd, unlike the mt4g which has an absolutley crap screen, reminds me of the screen on the motorola cliq.
6. G2 is amazing, sorry you made the wrong choice, should def switch back
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1. G2 and mt4g have simlar processors, just that the g2 is underclocked. So they are capable of the SAME SPEEDS.
2. Sense, especially expresso on the mytouch, is absolute garbage! Its so ugly I can't believe people actually like it. It looks waaay to much like an iphone...only uglier.
3. I honetly don't care about ffc, if I need to video chat, then I can just use the one on the back of the g2.
4. Keyboard on the g2 is brilliant. Add in the fact that it comes with swype makes it ridiculous. Sorry you don't like physical keyboards, but I absolutely love this one. By far one of the p-keyboards...ever.
5. Screen on the g2 is slcd, unlike the mt4g which has an absolutley crap screen, reminds me of the screen on the motorola cliq.
6. G2 is amazing, sorry you made the wrong choice, should def switch back
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All good to know. I never said I don't like physical keyboards. In fact I really like the one on the G2.
I just don't think I'll end up using it because touchscreen typing is faster/easier for me.
It's ok. You can install another launcher to make it look different. The genius button, however, is a whole different matter. There is no way to override its behavior, so that really bothers me.
I hear you! I hate sense as well and it reminds me of Windows Mobile to much!!! I just use LauncherPro which is great!
I like it. I'd rather not see all the crazy widgets that it ships with however. I do like that it's prettier than stock Vanilla. I mean, I want to kill myself looking at some of the stock apps. I'd just as soon send them back to 2004. And, having that ugly Android robot thingy peeking out from the corner? Talk about tacky!
OK, flame away.
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I like it. I'd rather not see all the crazy widgets that it ships with however. I do like that it's prettier than stock Vanilla. I mean, I want to kill myself looking at some of the stock apps. I'd just as soon send them back to 2004. And, having that ugly Android robot thingy peeking out from the corner? Talk about tacky!
OK, flame away.
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Are you kidding me? Sense, especially expresso, is one of the ugliest UI's I've ever seen. But if you like it....to each their own. I actually like what android was meant to look like. If I wanted that look I would have went with an iphone...
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Stock android is boring and lacks the great builtvin features that HTC Sense has. The menus, widgets, and built in functionality name HTC Sense more fun to use for me. I doubt many of you G2 owners have even used a myTouch 4G. The UI is a lot more polished than stock android 2.2.
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Are you kidding me? Sense, especially expresso, is one of the ugliest UI's I've ever seen. But if you like it....to each their own. I actually like what android was meant to look like. If I wanted that look I would have went with an iphone...
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Well, coming from the Vibrant, I like it much better. The Vibrant's UI was little Fisher-Price for my tastes. This just seems a little more fresh, almost business-modern. Why does everyone come back to the iphone when this topic arises anyway? We're here to stay, so let's just drop the iphone comparison. There is almost unanimous agreement that the iOS offers one of the greatest UI experience bar none. It's too bad there are too many glaring omissions in its functionality. So, to compare this UI to the iphone's isn't a bad thing in my book. I mean, if this Android phone were encased in an iphone's garments, complete with a skin that looked exactly like the iphone's, I would be no more apt to go with an iphone. To suggest that you would points to your obsession with that device, no?
I understand that, hence why if you love the iphone UI, you should go get one. If you don't, stick to a UI that does not resemble iphone ie anything not sense...
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Personally I like the functionality that expresso brings to the table. Its like an ugly girl that has a great package who gives a great blowjob in return atleast that's how I see it.
pierrekid said:
I understand that, hence why if you love the iphone UI, you should go get one. If you don't, stick to a UI that does not resemble iphone ie anything not sense...
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First, I don't even think this looks remotely like iOS, let's be reasonable. OK, perhaps a *tad* bit more than stock or TouchWiz. Secondly, I won't hide my affection for the iOS's UI. It's very nice. But, your reasoning still alludes me. Why "should I get one" if I like its UI only? Android is infinitely more customizable and inherently more powerful and scalable - not to mention, it's a lot more open-source-y. I make my decision based on the whole package, not simply a phone's UI. While important, it's not the end all. So, can we stop the whole childish "if you love the iphone UI, you should go get one" bit? Really. While it may not be apparent, you're giving the iphone more credit than it deserves by bringing it up in the context of an Android overlay.
Preference. Sense has a huge following and for good reason. Not just the widgets but browser functionality and mail pinch to zoom. The cut, c.c.p. and dictionary search, language translation is nice to have. If stock Android had the, desk clock, browser, mail pinch to zoom, FM radio, wifi calling, Flip weather clock, bookmark widget and ffc, I wouldn't mind vanilla. Just that HTC brings nice functionality that many of us prefer. All you have to do is venture over to Nexus development and check out Evil D's following and the EVO and DINC, Desire and you will pretty much see there is a huge market for the Sense UI. If you don't like it or think it is ugly then by all means have you some Cyanogen or Enom or MIUI. Coming on here crying about your preference is kinda lame and retarded.
Phateless said:
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this because it seems everyone around here is in love with Sense UI, but it drives me nuts. Especially that stupid Genius button. I now have to waste an entire row of my home screen with the Google search widget.
I...
****ing...
hate...
Sense!
Seriously, I can't stand it. I LOVE the hardware on this phone but am thinking of returning it and buying something used and rootable so I can install a vanilla version of Android.
Despite the facts that I would never use the physical keyboard and would rather have the front facing camera and the faster processor, I almost bought the G2 just for the clean version of Android.
Just curious if anyone else feels this way. I swear, if I could just double the RAM on my original MT3G, I would be satisfied to overclock it to 614 or so and go on my merry way.
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Install launcher pro, and enjoy having the best of both worlds. The sense launcher sucks (in my opinion), and launcher pro gets rid of that problem. Then the things that the sense UI does better (like the lock screen) you still have. I hate sense, and after minor tweaks and mods, like my MT4G way better than my G2.
RealityDesign said:
Install launcher pro, and enjoy having the best of both worlds. The sense launcher sucks (in my opinion), and launcher pro gets rid of that problem. Then the things that the sense UI does better (like the lock screen) you still have. I hate sense, and after minor tweaks and mods, like my MT4G way better than my G2.
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Mt4g sense is still running smart one, so you loose all that great ram while at the same time running launcherpro. Meaning a severe decrease is resources.
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I have always been a vanilla Android fan, I always bought vanilla handsets and the OS updates, and stock features were more than enough for me.
However, I was open and gave mySense a shot on this phone and I have been impressed so far. The contacts, gallery, music, alarm clock and several other apps are so much more fully featured and integrated than I thought. Also, if you pick the right theme, widgets and wallpaper combination, the UI can really be beautiful. I think I would have a hard time going back to stock android now.
For example, I really miss having the vibrate slider on my lock screen like my Nexus had, but with this phone I get a seperate lock screen wallpaper for more customization and I can read text messages and emails on the lock screen. The trade off works for me.
Obviously it's a matter of personal preference, but bashing someone for liking a skin is idiotic. I have an iPod Touch, and I cannot stand iOS, I think it's hard to understand, boring and limited, but most of the world thinks it's the greatest OS on the planet. I don't bash iPhone owners for liking it. Like most things, you just have to have an open mind, give it a shot and maybe you will be surprised.
I prefer mySense now for what it can do, but I will jump to the next great handset in another year or so and be perfectly happy. If that phone happens to be vanilla or sense I have no idea, but I would be cool with either.
I don't mean to sound rude, but is installing Launcher Pro really that hard?
I'm just waiting to being able to install miui on this phone. Expresso sense is not THAT bad... i could do without some bloatware but it doesn't bother me much. I happily retired my nexus and traded in the bulky g2 for this phone.
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SE7EN- said:
Personally I like the functionality that expresso brings to the table. Its like an ugly girl that has a great package who gives a great blowjob in return atleast that's how I see it.
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I couldn't have put it any better myself
So, what do my fellow MT4G'ers think of mySense? Love, hate, indifference?
Coming from TouchWiz, I must say I deplore mySense. I seriously don't understand why people rag on TouchWiz and claim Sense is amazing -- my experience says otherwise: I absolutely loved TouchWiz. Then again, most of this is subjective to personal preferences; so cast your vote and let us know how you feel!
Can you add an option for "I haven't seen it since day one"?
Sense was great on WinMo because the alternative was horrid. I'm not a fan on Android, but I have to say the day I got it I played with it and it's not as bad as full blown Sense IMO.
I had a Samsung captivate on att. It had touchwiz 3.0. I found it to be very usable... particularly because of how well it mimiced iOS which I just switched from. I liked the slide contact to call feature. And although the samoled was rich, I find this screen to be sharper... almost on par with iPhone 4.... but definitely washed out. I am surprisingly liking he UI on this phone. I haven't even bothered to perm root it yet. I like the fact that it all just works.
On the captivate I ran launcher pro. On this phone I have no real desire to change launchers.... and the sense clock and weather widget is frikkin sweet.
I don't find the UI to be intrusive and some of the added features are the best I have seen on a phone... in particular the copy context menu where you can look up anything your browsing is better than iOS. Hands down.
My smartphone acquisition disorder has been quelled.... for the moment.
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I saw on your "what rich colors" thread you mentioned your love for touchwiz.
I think if manufacturers were to make their UI an app instead of implementing it on their devices it would speed the updates. And they could sell them on the market for $2 make some money and please a lot more people than they are now. Just my opinion.
I'm impartial, would prefer Vanilla android though.
mySense is growing on me, I'm starting to love it.
I like it so far..
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Adw launcher + mysense framework = bliss
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Only thing I can say I TRULY hate about it is the blocks around the icons on the desktop and in the application drawer...
Other than that I have no problems with it!
I've used vanilla 2.2 (N1) and TW (Vibrant) and I can say that MySense isn't bad at all... do away with those blocks and it's golden - definitely better than TW.
Been using it for about 20 mins now and HATE it. Theres a reason my buddies on the Hero and Aria (that i flashed with cm6) dont miss that crap, because its just that, crap.
I'll pray every night for a vanilla rom until its available.
I have been a vanilla android user since my G1 (then N1). The mysense is starting to grow on me. There are some good functions that aren't on vanilla android.
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Adw launcher + mysense framework = bliss
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i just downloaded ADW from the market and im deff loving my phone more with this launcher, altho i must say, its a bandaid fix at best.
Im a Keep It Simple STUPID!!!! type of guy and dont like the thought of one launcher overlayed over the sense launcher thats running in the background.
only used sense for the first day then downloaded and upgraded to launcherpro plus!! amazing!!!!
I'm gettin use to it. used launcher pro plus for a min, but came back.
DarkAgent said:
So, what do my fellow MT4G'ers think of mySense? Love, hate, indifference?
Coming from TouchWiz, I must say I deplore mySense. I seriously don't understand why people rag on TouchWiz and claim Sense is amazing -- my experience says otherwise: I absolutely loved TouchWiz. Then again, most of this is subjective to personal preferences; so cast your vote and let us know how you feel!
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this is tmobile version of sense....not a true rep of the HTC sense~
it's ok to me...coming from a vanilla G1 and vanilla G2
Up in the air
I'm not sure what to think about the UI. There's elements of Sense that I like and there are those that I could do without.
I wish I could have the ADW Launcher with the Sense widgets since I hate the boxes around every icon and the mySense Launcher is kinda weak.
The theming idea is cool for those that don't want to run custom ROMs... maybe CM will port some of the goodies over.
What I would REALLY want is the ability to use HTCSense.com... Here's to the Sense port team!!!
It's ok with me for now. The MT4G has more than enough memory to support it, so the whole "slow" factor is irrelevant really. If it had a proper bluetooth stack so I could use my wiimote I would be much happier.
I like it better than vanilla Android but not a big fan of the launcher or app drawer
I'd like the original Sense UI personally
- White MyTouch 4G -
Permaroot + S=Off
I thought it ran pretty good! Installled launcher pro after a day. I just like the look alot better now.
Its not true sense but espresso or mysense or whatever they are calling it. I really don't like it tbh. I hate the fact that I have to choose a theme, which I think all look like crap. I love Launcher Pro and that gets rid of most of the sense ui. Just waiting for CM6.1.
On the iPhone/iPod Touch, there is an app called DreamBoard. What DreamBoard does is incredible. Its been a really long time i've touched it since i've had my Droid incredible 2 and lately i've been really interested in the WP7 Launcher and everything. I recalled the page, and the community apart of DreamBoard ported windows phone 7, called it OS7 and it exploded. Before the WP7 phones came out, my friends had it on their iPods and iPhones, which then convinced them to get droids and WP7s because it was possible to port over anything and everything. Now what im asking, is how possible is it to use those mods? The pages are below showing you and explaining what it is exactly. I did buy DreamBoard from Cydia a while ago to support. Like i said, There are so many Mods and so many coding tutorials i was wondering if it could be possible to port all those over. Check it out, and tell me what you guys think. I'd love to see this happen!
http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/750527-mods-os7-w-live-tiles.html
http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/753996-release-dreamboard.html
http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-n...-droid-incredible-2-incredible-s-add-ons.html
http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/758750-os7-release-free.html
DreamBoard is amazing but it's a major RAM hog on my iPod.
iPwn_ said:
DreamBoard is amazing but it's a major RAM hog on my iPod.
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It is, but the Droids today have a LOT more power than the iPods and iPhones its made for. Thats another big thing
Wow I never even heard of DreamBoard but I'm glad I just read
This..
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
Have used dreamboard, but to be honest it just accentuates why I miss android, shows to me just how basic the iPhone ui really is, great mod, but once you have gone through this much modifications to your iPhone you really have to ask yourself, is the iPhone right for me.
THUDUK said:
Have used dreamboard, but to be honest it just accentuates why I miss android, shows to me just how basic the iPhone ui really is, great mod, but once you have gone through this much modifications to your iPhone you really have to ask yourself, is the iPhone right for me.
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Mhm i do agree, but to me i see it as much more making the phone do what you want it do to. I do love my droid, but i'd really truly would love to see this. I'm beginning to think about how i can use all those mods and mod my WP7 Launcher
it would be nice to have a launcher like the dreamboard that allow you to customize your phone freely.
on the other hand there is something called Go launcher for androids which is much nicer than iphones. it has some great widgets which iphone people been dying to copy and especially the live wallpaper which the dream of having lol
sorry for reviving the thread, but have you seen sweeterhome? it does the same as dreamboard, with some differences.
Sorry didnot use dreamboard before.
Thank you useful information.
Metamorph was used sort of similarly but ultimately seems to have died off (compared to the days of the Dream)
Does anyone else out there think ICS looks like complete ****? I watched the leaked nexus video on YouTube that was released a few days ago and the first thing that came to mind was omfg look how ****ty that looks. I know I know *puts on flame suit* . I just can't get over the fact that ICS is the best thing that they could come up with I mean we are talking about Google here, were some of the brightest minds in America go to work. I just don't know, what are your guys thoughts? I feel they could create something a little bit more appealing with better Widgets idk let me know what you guys think...
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It looked amazing today when they announced it.
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I think it's beautiful.
Today's Live Wallpaper sucked dicks though.
The only thing I disliked were the on-screen buttons, but today's presentation made me feel less icky about it.
I love the look of ICS
I think its awesome and I like the new font theyve created as well
looks much better than all the earlier versions of android
It looks nice but not quite what I was hoping for.
They killed the menu button and use the wp7 like … icon. Wonder how the interface will be unit galaxy nexus runs gingerbread apps.
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They killed the menu button and use the wp7 like … icon. Wonder how the interface will be unit galaxy nexus runs gingerbread apps.
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Like on Honeycomb tablets I think a button will appear along the 3 existing ones.
I also was expecting more. I'm a bit dissapointed
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By the way, shouldn't be this topic on Android general forum?
I absolutely love how ICS looks. I adore the understated look and smooth transitions. The sold solid colors and Metro inspired design-language looks just fine to me. It is disappointing that the design of Ice Cream Sandwich is receiving so much negativity.
At least Gizmodo agrees that is is beautiful, and maybe that will help calm others a bit.
I think I kind of see a bit of disappoint. I think there was a bit too much speculation over it. There's always CyanogenMod
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