Hello all:
(first of all, I apologize for the double post, I erred and replied to a thread in the diamond forum)
I'm having problems getting my remote desktop to work. Been trying to connect since I picked up my Fuze on the 11th.
I have three different computers that I can successfully administer via my desktop. I've tried using 3G to connect, no success. I've tried using Wi-fi to connect, no success. I've used local computer names, IP addresses, properly forwarded ports --
It has to be a setting I'm missing on the phone. Any ideas? TIA
What version of Windows are you trying to connect to? Do you have a Firewall? And have you done the port forwarding on the router?
But the only options you need is Computer: IP Address and the user name and password. Use a Domain if you are connecting to PCs on a domain. Also when I logged in not using 16bit color under options the PC was almost unusable.
My attempts
The things I have tried since my post:
1) attempting to connect to Windows Server 2003 machine, non-local. Used IP address with port, same IPort that works from my desktop. Left username/password blank -- filled them both in -- left the domain name blank -- filled it in. All failed. Get the error message with three possible causes listed. Connected to my home network via wifi, data connection disabled (sometimes causes problems with my internet browsing if they're both enabled)
2) attempted to connect to a local machine, running XP Pro. Again, tried all possible combinations of username/password completeness, no success. Using Wifi
My local router does have a firewall, and the remote router does as well. I can successfully navigate those using my desktop (or laptop, for that matter)
GTO: I appreciate the quick reply...thank you.
3daysaside said:
The things I have tried since my post:
1) attempting to connect to Windows Server 2003 machine, non-local. Used IP address with port, same IPort that works from my desktop. Left username/password blank -- filled them both in -- left the domain name blank -- filled it in. All failed. Get the error message with three possible causes listed. Connected to my home network via wifi, data connection disabled (sometimes causes problems with my internet browsing if they're both enabled)
2) attempted to connect to a local machine, running XP Pro. Again, tried all possible combinations of username/password completeness, no success. Using Wifi
My local router does have a firewall, and the remote router does as well. I can successfully navigate those using my desktop (or laptop, for that matter)
GTO: I appreciate the quick reply...thank you.
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Okay its been awhile since I used 2k3 sever. Using 2k8 lately but are you trying to use Terminal Server? and if your using 2k3 and you have ISA enabled I know it can be a pain to do port forwarding with it. But let me get this stright. You have no issues using XPs Remote Desktop to log into the server machines Terminal Server/Remote Desktop? Here is an idea. Whatever port your running Terminal Server/Remote Desktop type the IP Address with a : and port. IE 192.168.0.1:3000
Also if you would like you can PM the IP address of one of the Machines and I will try from my phone that I know is working with my machine. I am pretty sure you don't need to end a user name or password and it will bring me up to the login screen or you can make a temp account. On also on the Win2k3 machine I am pretty sure you have to add the option to login with Terminal Server even if its the Administrator account.
I am able to connect to my local XP machine over wifi using the ip addy/no port. Hostname (DNS) connection attempt failed, though. My 2k3 server's power supply died or I would test that for you.
No special router config (port fwd) for my device had been done.
The fact that you can't get to your local box on your local network is where I'd start.
Local Network Issues
Thanks again to you both...
I think that might be the problem -- the local network setup. I can connect via wifi, and browse the web. However, I can't install a network printer using the WinMo app that's included, and I can't seem get to the local PC even when I use the local IP instead of the DNS name. I did check, I'm being issued an IP address by the router (obviously), but still no dice on anything relating to network based traffic.
Is there a way to ping using WinMo? I'd like to be able to use that start.
Cont..
Also, I've noticed that I don't get the same error each time. Depending on which machine I'm trying to connect to, it'll give me an error with either two or three options as to why it's not working. Trying to figure out what that's telling me.
As far as Terminal Services are concerned, when I connect from the desktop, I believe I'm using Remote Desktop there (honestly, I haven't been paying attention -- I just use whatever pops up when I type 'mstsc' from the Run dialog, lol), and I can connect to the 2003 server. However, I can't play with this anymore today, because apparently the server is down, and I won't be able to get to it till Monday.
I think I'm going to go play with the ATT proxy and see if that changes anything. I think mine is still enabled because I read that it might help with the GPS problems...
I have found some freeware app... pocketping 1.6 and microsoft has a network tool offering which I am not sure will work on WM6. I have no exp. with either tool on WM.
Can you get to your http/https router mgmt interface from the device? Check your router's client table? Does your router have any logging capabilities?
Sorry, more questions than answers.
Router
I am able to "dial" into the router from my phone -- it shows the HTCP4600 in the clients table with an IP of 192.168.2.108 ... all good.
My logging on the router was disabled, but now it is enabled. What should I be looking for?
I think i'll try the pocketping...
Now make sure inside of the router then you have all the correct ports forwarded.
It should be port 3999 to 3999 On UDP and TCP and then your PC ip behind the firewall.
Pocketping, JETCET Print 5, and success
Here's the update:
Discovered that by disabling the AT&T proxy on the Fuze, I was finally able to connect to my network printer -- the Fuze doesn't have the drivers for my printer, but that's another thread.
So I was able to make my first IN-Network contact. Installed pocketping 1.6, and it's a very useful tool. I'm able to successfully ping the computers on my network now that the proxy is disabled -- an voila...I can also connect to my laptop on my own network! The main trick was to use the network IP address and not the DNS name.
Thanks to both of you who helped out.
So i have the HTC HD2 and want to use the remote desktop which is build in the phone. The problem is that i have no clue how to set up my pc.
Im running on windows xp home edition and using a router. I saw a tutorial for setting it up where he basically told me to open a port and it works. After doing that it didnt work and i suspect there are some things not explained in the tutorial... Can anyone help me out on this?
Will not work on XP Home.
Ah i kinda had that feeling, im trying the same thing on my laptop which is windows xp proffesional. But i still cant log in. I also enabled the "allow remote"
Have you activated "Allow remote assistance" or did you activate "Allow connections" ? The latter is the one you need. Also make sure you're in the list of allowed users.
Doing this off the top of my head, I'm using Vista and it's been a while since I've needed to go into those options in XP.
You must have a password set too, so if the computer boots up and goes straight to your desktop without you having to log in, you'll need to set a password.
To access your computer when on the same network (wifi) use the computer's IP address.
Get this by running cmd on the computer and type ipconfig (then hit return).
To access your computer via the internet (over the phone network) use the computer's external IP address.
Get this by going to whatsmyip.org
You'll also need to configure your router to forward TCP port 3389 to the computer's IP address (found via ipconfig as above).
The thing is, with most home broadband connections, your external IP address can change, so get around this problem by using dynamic DNS.
Some routers have a DDNS client built in, with a list of compatible DDNS services. Just go to one of those services' websites and sign up, often it's free. Pick an domain name to register, ie p03p.dyndns.org, and use that to connect rather than your external IP address.
Best to check you can connect via wifi first using the computer's internal IP address.
If that doesn't work, are you running a firewall?
If you don't have a 3rd party one like Symantec/Norton, then check the windows firewall - ensure the Remote Desktop exception is ticked, if it is, then disable the firewall, and also untick the network connections on the advanced tab (even though the windows firewall says it's disabled, don't expect it to know that!).
If you use a 3rd party firewall, then look into how you can add a rule for port 3389 (RDP)
One way to get around the issue of a dynamic IP address on the home PC is to use Himachi2....it's a super-simple way to create a tunnel to your home pc no matter what the ever-changing external IP address is, and they have a winmo client now too. You simply set up the host once on your home PC, and as long as you leave it running it's very easy to create the remote connection just like you're on the local network with the PC....then you just use Remote Desktop that way
I ticked both the allow options just to be sure. What i also did is go on my 2nd laptop which also has windows xp pro on it to try and connect to my 1st laptop which also didnt work.
I think the problem lies in the list of allowed user. When i get into that list i dont see anyone in it. I assume i have to add my 2nd laptop in that list in order to get this to work. I tried to look a bit arround but i dont know how to add someone to that list.
I want to set my Mum's new tablet so that it can only access the Internet via the SSH server running on her Buffalo router (with Tomato firmware).
I've got the server working and accessible remotely and so far the only app I've found that has a Global Proxy setting to redirect everything via the SSH server is SSHTunnel, although I gather that it's not totally reliable when connections drop/change and I can't expect my Mum to cope with monitoring it and re-enabling it manually. When it's disabled, all traffic will just go over local connection unencrypted so that's a concern.
Ideally there'd be some way to setup the SSH settings at a system level, with no way to disable them and force all the traffic go out like this but I'm not sure if there is any way to achieve this.
The other part is setting a firewall (AFWall+ or Android Firewall seem to be the main ones) to only allow traffic via the SSH server. I'm not sure what whitelist rules would be required for this. For example, SSHTunnel connects to the server at x.x.x.x:x, so I presume I'd need a rule to allow connections to this address and this port (I had a quick play with the Avast firewall, which only allows creating custom rules for IP or port, so I'd need two rules with that and it doesn't allow entering the DynDNS name, only a IP address, so that's no good).
Then SSHTunnel has a Local Port (1984) and remote addressort (127.0.0.1:3128) so I presume I'd need rules to allow all of those as well (I'm not sure which of these need to be incoming/outgoing or both). Then there's the question of whether I need to allow other ports like DNS (53) and so on, or if that all goes over the SSH tunnel and doesn't require setting allow rules specifically.
It might be that a VPN server would be more suitable for what I'm trying to acheive than a SSH server and I think the Tomato firmware on the router has that facility (or if the version currently flashed doesn't, there's probably another version I could flash that does), so if that's the case, I'd appreciate advice on locking it down that way instead. Android has built-in VPN support, so it might be possible to use that but it depends on whether it will auto-connect and stay connected all the time or if it requires user intervention and I'll still need to setup firewall rules to prevent data being sent without the VPN in case it does get disabled.
Another issue is whether these firewall rules will prevent the device even being able to connect to any public Wi-Fi points before redirecting the traffic via the SSH/VPN server, which would obviously be no good.
OK, maybe there's another way
I was thinking of setting up a VPN on a Raspberry Pi installed at my parent's house, as they have reasonable broadband speeds, something like 100/10MB. Is there anyway that I could setup my Mum's tablet so that it passes everything through the VPN whether at home or away, so that she doesn't have to worry about toggling the VPN or firewall?
I can point it to the No-IP domain name I've setup but then I think every request would go out onto the Internet (albeit encrypted) before coming back in to the VPN, which would then have to go out again to retrieve whatever webpage, etc is being requested, which would obviously be stupid. If I point it to the LAN IP of 192.168.1.66, that will avoid doing that when at home but won't work when away.
So, any ideas?
Some research into bypassing T-mobile’s tether restrictions reveals there are several things carriers can do to detect hotspot usage and block those packets:
-is hotspot data sent through a second anp?
-does carrier mark the packets coming through the wlan interface?
-do they filter by user agent strings?
-do they view the ttl?
-do they block urls that phones do not use?
-do they have a monitoring app pre-installed? (ex delete com.tmobile.pr via titanium backup)
Getting around these restrictions while using the native hotspot functionality requires work-arounds that I did not go far enough to successfully implement. One cannot by default edit the APNs for instance. I had to set up a duplicate, but theorize T-mobile was still routing to the hotspot APN I could not edit. With root access (which I have) it should be possible to achieve success, but I have found satisfactory non-root ways of achieving unlimited internet with MetroPCs (owned by T-mobile). I have, however, compiled a number of resources and may look back into what hacks must be used on the native app in the future. If anyone has a good guide on how you're getting hotspot with the Nougat LG V10 please post!
It stands to reason that one must use a non-native application to disguise the tether usage, or significantly modify the native one. After stalling with the mods, I pursued the non-native of attack and found (2) independent working ways to get unlimited tethered internet.
Wifi Tethering apps
I tried various wifi tether apps and without additional modifications or configuration I could not get them to work including:
-native hotspot (which works despite not having a hotspot plan, but t-mobile blocks)
-Wifi tether router by Fabio Grasso ($2.90) (requires root access)--(t-mobile was blocking the connection)—in discussion with developer on how to get working, will update. UPDATE: After back and forth with dev, he recommended using a VPN. His app does route the VPN through the hotspot connection if that feature is toggled. I have not tested. Potentially, changing the TTL of the computer may do something.
-Open Garden Wifi Tether—crashed when attempting to start service
Wifi Direct apps:
Wifi apps such as NetShare (red-themed play store entry is completely free, several paid versions) which use the native wifi direct functionality create a proxy server through which you can connect to via wifi. These DO WORK without additional modifications, but most native desktop apps on your computer cannot access the internet. All websites will load however. You have to set up your internet connection as through a proxy server on the client side but do not need to install additional software. A GOOD OPTION TO HAVE. I have found that one sometimes may need to stop and start the service to get it to give you internet access. The way I do it is start then quickly bring up the wifi menu, computer recognizes the network and connects quickly. If there is too much of a delay between starting and connecting via the client Netshare(Pro) doesn’t seem to work without a quick disable/enable afterwards.
USB tethering apps:
Rely on the phone’s native USB debugging feature in the hidden developer tools menu. (Go to about phone, software info, and tap on build repeatedly until enabled.) NO ROOT required. I tested Easy Tether ($9.99) and ClockWorkMod Tether ($4.99). Both worked well. PDAnet+ may also fall into this category but I have not researched. THIS IS MY PREFERRED METHOD so far. It is also possible to USB tether to certain types of wifi routers and thus get wifi for the home.
-There are PC, Mac, or Linux applications and drivers which must be installed on the computer side.
-Must have USB debugging enabled, and USB options set to Photo Transfer (Media Transfer does not work, and why I originally failed with ClockWorkMod…otherwise probably would have not pursued root!)
-These USB tether apps have the benefit of reducing the heat generated by your phone (no wifi signal generation), so runs cooler (think chips last longer) and uses less energy than when you have wifi hotspot enabled. For this reason, and for the phone being so handy when connected to my laptop, I actually prefer this method. Plus you have access to the pictures and DICM folders of internal storage so you can transfer stuff to the phone fairly immediately. To get full access, however, you’ll have to switch to MTTP mode, which on LG phones such as this V10 will break the internet connection. Other phones may not have this particular issue.
Bluetooth Tether apps:
Easy Tether and probably PDAnet+ support Bluetooth tether. With easy tether I wouldn’t suspect any issues at all using this.
Potential other methods WHICH SEEMED PROMISING, I sorted through a lot! For your inspiration:
-One youtuber mentioned using a desktop hospot application + PDAnet+ to get legit wifi hotspot functionality. The desktop PDAnet+ application apparently disguises the tethering operation. Video here: https://youtu.be/D98abWOkkQI
-Exposed framework and tether for rooted devices (did not try): https://highonandroid.com/android-a...n-rooted-android-att-t-mobile-sprint-verizon/
-Claims you’ll be able to tether any rooted android with this rooted wifi app and particular settings (similar to wifi tether router) https://highonandroid.com/android-a...android-smartphone-or-tablet-universal-guide/ (UPDATE: I tried, app is not compatible with the phone)
See comments section of this article for the below quotes: https://www.groovypost.com/howto/hide-data-usage-get-truly-unlimited-tethering-tmobile-one/
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“The main issue I see people having is the lack of apn editing. This has been my setup for four years now
-Dd-wrt with iptables to edit the ttl value to 65 -Change TTL on windows PC to 65 so that it appears data is coming from the phone. (41 in hex = 65 in dec) https://social.technet.microsoft.co...o-live-ttl-in-windows?forum=w7itpronetworking
-Changed apn of hotspot to match the apn of normal mobile date. Doesn’t matter if you use fast.xxxx.com or alpha/beta BUT YOU CANT USE THE ORIGINAL HOTSPOT APN it’ll say mobile web or some ****. If you do you will be routed through their hotspot server and tracked. I’ve done this on iOS and android.
-FOR THE FOLKS THAT SAY THE VPN DOESNT WORK. Once again you MUST change the apn AND you have to make sure that your traffic is actually being routed through the VPN, in my experience on both android and iOS hotspot traffic bypass your phones VPN, and VPN on the router/computer traveling through the phone can be tracked if the phone isn’t the one using the VPN, to make it force traffic through the VPN I had to use the for data option in the tether me app on iOS. These things all work if you do it properly.”--Wifi tether router does have this VPN routing function but I have not tested.
"My COMBO works for me on T-Mobile unlimited.
Nexus 5x – rooted 6.01 with “settings put global tether_dun_required 0”
PLUS
Asus n31u router (w/ net.ipv4.ip_default_ttl = 65, bridge mod)
Works for Window 7 desktop and laptop, chromebook, and tablets. All about 80 Gigs last month”
“The TTLstands for “time to live” it is a counter on the data you send for its maximum hop count, or the number of devices it can travel through, for ever device it goes down by one, windows has a default TTL of 128, while Android has one of 64, if you change the TTL for windows to 65 when it gets to the phone the TTL will go down by one makeing it equal 64 the same as the phone. There are more adwanced way to do this so you can run a whole network off this by using a router with either DD-wrt, Tomatos or open-wrt or a dedicated pc running either pfsense, linux, or freebsd to act as a router and mangle the TTl on the fly, the benefits of this is it gets ALL of the data(windows seem to miss a small amount arohnd 5%) and its possible to edit the User agent in ways that dont mess up websites with squid and just appending the device.”
Reserved
For USB tether clients, ClockWorkMod seems to be programmed in a lower-level fashion and produce significantly less heat than running Easytether. I will be monitoring and update.
Arr123 said:
Some research into bypassing T-mobile’s tether restrictions reveals there are several things carriers can do to detect hotspot usage and block those packets:
-is hotspot data sent through a second anp?
-does carrier mark the packets coming through the wlan interface?
-do they filter by user agent strings?
-do they view the ttl?
-do they block urls that phones do not use?
-do they have a monitoring app pre-installed? (ex delete com.tmobile.pr via titanium backup)
Getting around these restrictions while using the native hotspot functionality requires work-arounds that I did not go far enough to successfully implement. One cannot by default edit the APNs for instance. I had to set up a duplicate, but theorize T-mobile was still routing to the hotspot APN I could not edit. With root access (which I have) it should be possible to achieve success, but I have found satisfactory non-root ways of achieving unlimited internet with MetroPCs (owned by T-mobile). I have, however, compiled a number of resources and may look back into what hacks must be used on the native app in the future. If anyone has a good guide on how you're getting hotspot with the Nougat LG V10 please post!
It stands to reason that one must use a non-native application to disguise the tether usage, or significantly modify the native one. After stalling with the mods, I pursued the non-native of attack and found (2) independent working ways to get unlimited tethered internet.
Wifi Tethering apps
I tried various wifi tether apps and without additional modifications or configuration I could not get them to work including:
-native hotspot (which works despite not having a hotspot plan, but t-mobile blocks)
-Wifi tether router by Fabio Grasso ($2.90) (requires root access)--(t-mobile was blocking the connection)—in discussion with developer on how to get working, will update. UPDATE: After back and forth with dev, he recommended using a VPN. His app does route the VPN through the hotspot connection if that feature is toggled. I have not tested. Potentially, changing the TTL of the computer may do something.
-Open Garden Wifi Tether—crashed when attempting to start service
Wifi Direct apps:
Wifi apps such as NetShare (red-themed play store entry is completely free, several paid versions) which use the native wifi direct functionality create a proxy server through which you can connect to via wifi. These DO WORK without additional modifications, but most native desktop apps on your computer cannot access the internet. All websites will load however. You have to set up your internet connection as through a proxy server on the client side but do not need to install additional software. A GOOD OPTION TO HAVE. I have found that one sometimes may need to stop and start the service to get it to give you internet access. The way I do it is start then quickly bring up the wifi menu, computer recognizes the network and connects quickly. If there is too much of a delay between starting and connecting via the client Netshare(Pro) doesn’t seem to work without a quick disable/enable afterwards.
USB tethering apps:
Rely on the phone’s native USB debugging feature in the hidden developer tools menu. (Go to about phone, software info, and tap on build repeatedly until enabled.) NO ROOT required. I tested Easy Tether ($9.99) and ClockWorkMod Tether ($4.99). Both worked well. PDAnet+ may also fall into this category but I have not researched. THIS IS MY PREFERRED METHOD so far. It is also possible to USB tether to certain types of wifi routers and thus get wifi for the home.
-There are PC, Mac, or Linux applications and drivers which must be installed on the computer side.
-Must have USB debugging enabled, and USB options set to Photo Transfer (Media Transfer does not work, and why I originally failed with ClockWorkMod…otherwise probably would have not pursued root!)
-These USB tether apps have the benefit of reducing the heat generated by your phone (no wifi signal generation), so runs cooler (think chips last longer) and uses less energy than when you have wifi hotspot enabled. For this reason, and for the phone being so handy when connected to my laptop, I actually prefer this method. Plus you have access to the pictures and DICM folders of internal storage so you can transfer stuff to the phone fairly immediately. To get full access, however, you’ll have to switch to MTTP mode, which on LG phones such as this V10 will break the internet connection. Other phones may not have this particular issue.
Bluetooth Tether apps:
Easy Tether and probably PDAnet+ support Bluetooth tether. With easy tether I wouldn’t suspect any issues at all using this.
Potential other methods WHICH SEEMED PROMISING, I sorted through a lot! For your inspiration:
-One youtuber mentioned using a desktop hospot application + PDAnet+ to get legit wifi hotspot functionality. The desktop PDAnet+ application apparently disguises the tethering operation. Video here: https://youtu.be/D98abWOkkQI
-Exposed framework and tether for rooted devices (did not try): https://highonandroid.com/android-a...n-rooted-android-att-t-mobile-sprint-verizon/
-Claims you’ll be able to tether any rooted android with this rooted wifi app and particular settings (similar to wifi tether router) https://highonandroid.com/android-a...android-smartphone-or-tablet-universal-guide/ (UPDATE: I tried, app is not compatible with the phone)
See comments section of this article for the below quotes: https://www.groovypost.com/howto/hide-data-usage-get-truly-unlimited-tethering-tmobile-one/
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“The main issue I see people having is the lack of apn editing. This has been my setup for four years now
-Dd-wrt with iptables to edit the ttl value to 65 -Change TTL on windows PC to 65 so that it appears data is coming from the phone. (41 in hex = 65 in dec) https://social.technet.microsoft.co...o-live-ttl-in-windows?forum=w7itpronetworking
-Changed apn of hotspot to match the apn of normal mobile date. Doesn’t matter if you use fast.xxxx.com or alpha/beta BUT YOU CANT USE THE ORIGINAL HOTSPOT APN it’ll say mobile web or some ****. If you do you will be routed through their hotspot server and tracked. I’ve done this on iOS and android.
-FOR THE FOLKS THAT SAY THE VPN DOESNT WORK. Once again you MUST change the apn AND you have to make sure that your traffic is actually being routed through the VPN, in my experience on both android and iOS hotspot traffic bypass your phones VPN, and VPN on the router/computer traveling through the phone can be tracked if the phone isn’t the one using the VPN, to make it force traffic through the VPN I had to use the for data option in the tether me app on iOS. These things all work if you do it properly.”--Wifi tether router does have this VPN routing function but I have not tested.
"My COMBO works for me on T-Mobile unlimited.
Nexus 5x – rooted 6.01 with “settings put global tether_dun_required 0”
PLUS
Asus n31u router (w/ net.ipv4.ip_default_ttl = 65, bridge mod)
Works for Window 7 desktop and laptop, chromebook, and tablets. All about 80 Gigs last month”
“The TTLstands for “time to live” it is a counter on the data you send for its maximum hop count, or the number of devices it can travel through, for ever device it goes down by one, windows has a default TTL of 128, while Android has one of 64, if you change the TTL for windows to 65 when it gets to the phone the TTL will go down by one makeing it equal 64 the same as the phone. There are more adwanced way to do this so you can run a whole network off this by using a router with either DD-wrt, Tomatos or open-wrt or a dedicated pc running either pfsense, linux, or freebsd to act as a router and mangle the TTl on the fly, the benefits of this is it gets ALL of the data(windows seem to miss a small amount arohnd 5%) and its possible to edit the User agent in ways that dont mess up websites with squid and just appending the device.”
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I recently been looking into this as well. I've currently been using the new pdanet with with wifi direct but it seem to be hit or miss when getting a internet connection when using the proxy method. I have a few devices where i cant install the interface so im looking for reliable method
Few scenarios im looking at. The first one you cover quite a bit, was wondering if your using IPV4 or IPV6 with your different apn settings? 2nd scenario is being able to tether when connected to wifi like from a hotel and being able to pass that to other devices and the 3rd is being able to pass along a vpn connection if connected to free wifi places
Sorry for the necropost, I just wanted to point out that currently the only method you can use to hide tethering from T-mo is PDANet with it's "Hide Tether Usage" feature.
All other methods are detected and if you have tethering, will count against your tethering allotment.
majikfox said:
Sorry for the necropost, I just wanted to point out that currently the only method you can use to hide tethering from T-mo is PDANet with it's "Hide Tether Usage" feature.
All other methods are detected and if you have tethering, will count against your tethering allotment.
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Thanks for the heads up. Just wanted to make sure since I wanted to try the TTL method, but that is also blocked by T-Mobile correct?
TTL 65 didn't work on my computers, but 85 and 99 did. So don't be afraid to try different things.
However, the phone should be able to modify the TTL before it forwards the packet. How is there not an app that does this, or is there a setting or hack we can do to make it change the TTL as it passes through the phone?
edit: have searched more and learned some apps do, but they don't work on my phone. Not sure why.
I have metro pcs with 15gb of hotspot data.. i run out every month.. once my data runs out i use hotspotvpn. A free app on the google play store and it works for everything.. been doing it for months..never had any issues
CHEEF WALKING-FROG said:
I have metro pcs with 15gb of hotspot data.. i run out every month.. once my data runs out i use hotspotvpn. A free app on the google play store and it works for everything.. been doing it for months..never had any issues
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Which one do you use? I saw a few that had the same name
Same here metro
13crigby said:
Which one do you use? I saw a few that had the same name
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Im also wondering which app you're referring to. Theres quite a few with that name
CHEEF WALKING-FROG said:
I have metro pcs with 15gb of hotspot data.. i run out every month.. once my data runs out i use hotspotvpn. A free app on the google play store and it works for everything.. been doing it for months..never had any issues
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Let me third the request. I just clocked through 8 or 9 different apps with that name. Who is the publisher?
Thanks!
Bypass With Termux
I've done this for ever and it's not going to be restricted to who you have but it will 100 percent get around any data throttling.
Download Termux app and install openssh-server on it. Go ahead and hotspot your phone, then run ifconfig inside Termux to get your current tethering local IP. It will be the only 192. spit out when you run ifconfig. Save this. Run sshd -dD inside Termux which starts an openssh server waiting to be connected to in debug mode to audit traffic. Now pop onto a PC or router you can SSH into, whatever and connect it to your hotspot from your phone. Now SSH tunnel all the traffic from the device back through the openssh server your running on the Termux app. Now that you are on the same local network you can SSH tunnel into that IP address you saved earlier. As long as you make sure all your traffic passes through the tunnel it 100 percent shows that all your internet is being used by Termux app not your hotspot app so you need no other spoofing of hops or anything because to your phone and carrier you are just using a bunch of data in termux, you do it right you will never be throttled I've used 150GB data multiple times.
Step by step > https://github.com/RiFi2k/unlimited-tethering
RiFi2k said:
I've done this for ever and it's not going to be restricted to who you have but it will 100 percent get around any data throttling.
Download Termux app and install openssh-server on it. Go ahead and hotspot your phone, then run ifconfig inside Termux to get your current tethering local IP. It will be the only 192. spit out when you run ifconfig. Save this. Run sshd -dD inside Termux which starts an openssh server waiting to be connected to in debug mode to audit traffic. Now pop onto a PC or router you can SSH into, whatever and connect it to your hotspot from your phone. Now SSH tunnel all the traffic from the device back through the openssh server your running on the Termux app. Now that you are on the same local network you can SSH tunnel into that IP address you saved earlier. As long as you make sure all your traffic passes through the tunnel it 100 percent shows that all your internet is being used by Termux app not your hotspot app so you need no other spoofing of hops or anything because to your phone and carrier you are just using a bunch of data in termux, you do it right you will never be throttled I've used 150GB data multiple times.
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This is amazing. How do I use my Windows PC to connect to the openSSH server to create the traffic tunnel? Also, how do I force my Windows 10 traffic through the tunnel?
I am guessing with Putty and then setup SSH proxy in a browser to force traffic? Won't that only allow browser based traffic through the tunnel and not all traffic from the Windows computer?
VICosPhi said:
This is amazing. How do I use my Windows PC to connect to the openSSH server to create the traffic tunnel? Also, how do I force my Windows 10 traffic through the tunnel?
I am guessing with Putty and then setup SSH proxy in a browser to force traffic? Won't that only allow browser based traffic through the tunnel and not all traffic from the Windows computer?
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So I am an everyday linux user and for me personally I use sshuttle to route everything back through the tunnel because it already handles the TCP over TCP problem because the guy that wrote it is a boss. This here explains that.
If I was on windows I would go with their vagrant solution because then you get the benefit of sshuttle and all your responsible for is making sure all traffic goes through the VM. Also you could use something like proxycap and putty works as well although I guess it's slow people have said.
Browser traffic can be handled with SOCKS proxies.
I feel like it's a pretty great solution overall and can benefit some people so I started a repo and I'll fully document how it works, I'm just too tired tonight so keep an eye out https://github.com/RiFi2k/unlimited-tethering and I'll step by step linux and windows for everyone as much as possible, plus if anyone else has scripts and whatnot feel free to contribute.
RiFi2k said:
So I am an everyday linux user and for me personally I use sshuttle to route everything back through the tunnel because it already handles the TCP over TCP problem because the guy that wrote it is a boss. This here explains that.
If I was on windows I would go with their vagrant solution because then you get the benefit of sshuttle and all your responsible for is making sure all traffic goes through the VM. Also you could use something like proxycap and putty works as well although I guess it's slow people have said.
Browser traffic can be handled with SOCKS proxies.
I feel like it's a pretty great solution overall and can benefit some people so I started a repo and I'll fully document how it works, I'm just too tired tonight so keep an eye out https://github.com/RiFi2k/unlimited-tethering and I'll step by step linux and windows for everyone as much as possible, plus if anyone else has scripts and whatnot feel free to contribute.
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Thanks a lot, will read up on this. Adding your github to my bookmarks as well. :good:
RiFi2k said:
I've done this for ever and it's not going to be restricted to who you have but it will 100 percent get around any data throttling.
Download Termux app and install openssh-server on it. Go ahead and hotspot your phone, then run ifconfig inside Termux to get your current tethering local IP. It will be the only 192. spit out when you run ifconfig. Save this. Run sshd -dD inside Termux which starts an openssh server waiting to be connected to in debug mode to audit traffic. Now pop onto a PC or router you can SSH into, whatever and connect it to your hotspot from your phone. Now SSH tunnel all the traffic from the device back through the openssh server your running on the Termux app. Now that you are on the same local network you can SSH tunnel into that IP address you saved earlier. As long as you make sure all your traffic passes through the tunnel it 100 percent shows that all your internet is being used by Termux app not your hotspot app so you need no other spoofing of hops or anything because to your phone and carrier you are just using a bunch of data in termux, you do it right you will never be throttled I've used 150GB data multiple times.
Step by step > https://github.com/RiFi2k/unlimited-tethering
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Had any user tried this already and confirm that it works with metropcs?
Pdanet+ documentation details that only usb tether+hide tether usage works with metropcs. It took me a while to go around all of it, but I haven't tested due to I want to switch carriers to metropcs.
RiFi2k said:
I've done this for ever and it's not going to be restricted to who you have but it will 100 percent get around any data throttling.
Download Termux app and install openssh-server on it. Go ahead and hotspot your phone, then run ifconfig inside Termux to get your current tethering local IP. It will be the only 192. spit out when you run ifconfig. Save this. Run sshd -dD inside Termux which starts an openssh server waiting to be connected to in debug mode to audit traffic. Now pop onto a PC or router you can SSH into, whatever and connect it to your hotspot from your phone. Now SSH tunnel all the traffic from the device back through the openssh server your running on the Termux app. Now that you are on the same local network you can SSH tunnel into that IP address you saved earlier. As long as you make sure all your traffic passes through the tunnel it 100 percent shows that all your internet is being used by Termux app not your hotspot app so you need no other spoofing of hops or anything because to your phone and carrier you are just using a bunch of data in termux, you do it right you will never be throttled I've used 150GB data multiple times.
Step by step > https://github.com/RiFi2k/unlimited-tethering
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Hey bro!! Thank you !!
This is great idea, I would try it on my country to see if this works
myself379 said:
Hey bro!! Thank you !!
This is great idea, I would try it on my country to see if this works
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For sure! See the nice thing about this method is that your phone doesn't register any of the data used as coming from the tethering app, it 100% all gets attributed to the Termux app because of the SSH tunnel. So basically there is no way for anyone at your carrier to know, or prove that you actually were tethering at all. If you open up the apps section and check out the part where it shows you how much data each app used you will see what I mean. So basically it really doesn't matter what country / carrier / phone you have, as long as you have access to be able to tether and you have a computer you can use for the SSH tunnel it's impossible for them to throttle you because they can't prove you actually used the data tethering. When you read the fine print about them throttling it basically says the same thing, if they can't definitively prove the data came from tethering it doesn't go on your tethering cap.
Hello RiFi2k,
OK, thanks for the information. I'm trying to translate this into a windows environment(Windows 10 phone and PC).
Here is what I have so far, but a few of your points are unclear. A little clarity would be fantastic.
Translation for Windows 10 phone
Since, I'm on a windows phone there is no Termux app. I guess Termux is used to install the SSH server and gain access to a command prompt, correct?
1. Ok since openssh server is built into the windows phone OS and I can access the command prompt via putty, I should be fine, right.
2. Generate key pair and stored public key on phone. Working fine.
3. Hotspot connection to phone.
4. Run ipconfig(windows) on phone or local machine. On local machine, gateway address is the needed ip, same as hotspot address on phone.
5. SSH Server is started on phone once the phone is placed in development mode.
Can't put server in debug mode on phone, but I'm pretty certain that it's hard coded to listen on port 22.
6. Your instructions on github.com have duplicated the step number 5, which should be 6 and I am having a little trouble sorting through it.
7. I guess the only way to tunnel to the phone is to run a putty session from the Windows machine configured per your instructions.
Are these commands executed on the device or phone?:
ssh -D 8123 -fqgN [email protected].1 -p 22 (ssh client)
sshuttle -r [email protected].1:22 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0 (sock proxy)
Either way, I will need to use putty for the SSH Client portion. What are the switches in your example "-fqgN"? Are the switches concatenated?
-f Specifies a per-user configuration file.
-q Quiet mode
-g Allows remote hosts to connect to local forwarded ports.
-N ???
And finally, depending on where the above commands are run, I will need to find a sock proxy solution, if I want all traffic going through the tunnel.
Again, thanks for all your hard work.
davy4620 said:
Hello RiFi2k,
OK, thanks for the information. I'm trying to translate this into a windows environment(Windows 10 phone and PC).
Here is what I have so far, but a few of your points are unclear. A little clarity would be fantastic.
Translation for Windows 10 phone
Since, I'm on a windows phone there is no Termux app. I guess Termux is used to install the SSH server and gain access to a command prompt, correct?
1. Ok since openssh server is built into the windows phone OS and I can access the command prompt via putty, I should be fine, right.
2. Generate key pair and stored public key on phone. Working fine.
3. Hotspot connection to phone.
4. Run ipconfig(windows) on phone or local machine. On local machine, gateway address is the needed ip, same as hotspot address on phone.
5. SSH Server is started on phone once the phone is placed in development mode.
Can't put server in debug mode on phone, but I'm pretty certain that it's hard coded to listen on port 22.
6. Your instructions on github.com have duplicated the step number 5, which should be 6 and I am having a little trouble sorting through it.
7. I guess the only way to tunnel to the phone is to run a putty session from the Windows machine configured per your instructions.
Are these commands executed on the device or phone?:
ssh -D 8123 -fqgN [email protected].1 -p 22 (ssh client)
sshuttle -r [email protected].1:22 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0 (sock proxy)
Either way, I will need to use putty for the SSH Client portion. What are the switches in your example "-fqgN"? Are the switches concatenated?
-f Specifies a per-user configuration file.
-q Quiet mode
-g Allows remote hosts to connect to local forwarded ports.
-N ???
And finally, depending on where the above commands are run, I will need to find a sock proxy solution, if I want all traffic going through the tunnel.
Again, thanks for all your hard work.
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Ok, so the N is `-N Do not execute a remote command. This is useful for just forwarding ports (protocol version 2 only).` reference https://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh
It's completely fine if you don't have debug mode on when you start the sshd server on your phone, you actually don't technically need any flags. One is debug and one is detached so it runs in the background, which you are generally going to want.
Both those commands are run on your computer, but you only use one or the other. Follow my link to sshuttle they have information for using it on Windows, it will transparently route all your traffic through the tunnel for you already so it's way better than anything else.
So just to recap, you start the sshd (ssh server) on your phone and it will spit out a port. Then you go to your PC and ssh or sshuttle (ssh client) connect to your phone.
I'm around if you need more help!
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Also once you get it working on Windows with your phone if you don't mind letting me know what version of Windows and what model your phone is, and where the directions hung you up, because I'll mention it all to help the next person.
Thanks for the quick reply. I'm going to have to dig a little deeper. It looks as if Microsoft is doing some kind of filtering on the WiFi interface and blocking this approach. Again, thanks for the great start.