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I have a question that turns me on the head a few weeks, but there is a real alternative Home? .. I mean, almost two years now I have the hands on my HTC Dream, I must admit that I've seen very few, and try less. The question arises, there really is a programmer who is working on a real alternative to classic and multiple ROM that you see around? or we will always have many copies of already cooked ROM with only small changes that can range from icons, graphics or small settings to improve performance? Well i notice I'm not complaining about the excellent results we are getting our programmers, who try to keep pace with each new release, ported to every device imaginable (almost all with small donations) etc etc. but I doubt that I'll never have a real alternative as it could be TAT Home or easier SlideScreenPro ..
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Good point, wrong section.
You're totally right about devs who only change or pimp Cyanogen's work. I think it's dumb and pointless. I understand amount of work etc, most of android devs on XDA are very talented people, but after trying 34 or 67th custom rom i saw there's nothing better than CM. Of course, there were several awesome roms like SuperD or sth like that, but after all it's just another pimped CM.
Speaking about home replacements - the greatest apps are those which are modified stock launchers. I don't like a fact, there's no really good other home replacement, but i'd rather use perfect-working ADW or LauncherPro than incompatible, slow, unstable, blablablah, etc. home like TAT, SlideScreen or Zune. And of couse most of those super-extra-special-unique home replacements (which don't even work stable) are paid. There's nothing more to say.
in the pre-CM5 era, there were lots of roms not based on cyanogen
anyone remember open eclair? it had the BEST boot animation ever.
Make your own Simple as that. If you're not capable hire someone. Or lastly, learn to code so you may make your own. Don't think any of the three are worth it, then maybe your idea isn't worth it. Just saying. A last option or rather possibility is having someone more talented than you(coding wise) do it out of their own free will because they share your thoughts.
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in the pre-CM5 era, there were lots of roms not based on cyanogen
anyone remember open eclair? it had the BEST boot animation ever.
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You got that right. The only real reason all our ROMs are based on CM now is because almost everyone has moved on to a better phone. As soon as the N1 came out it started and hasn't stopped. Also, for that reason, this topic is pretty pointless. If this were occurring way back when Android was new and everyone copypasta'd cyanogen then it would make sense. That was never the case.
And there is nothing wrong with tweaking Cyanogen ROMs. Open source is meant for this. Cyanogen modifies AOSP then themers and file pushers share their optimizations on top of that.
And about a real home replacement: ADWLauncher is a real home replacement that kicks major a**. Ander states that his work is open source as well... So you can take his wheel and make your own little bike, dude. Peddle on...
I've been wondering for a while now why nobody has come up with a better method to copy and paste in Android. I've seen devs do amazing things with Android in general and some other devs make fantastic apps but I haven't seen anything worth looking at in the way of a good, solid and workable "copy / paste" solution.
I know that Gingerbread brings improved copy and paste but even that seems inconsistent and fiddly. The HTC Desire HD has a pretty good implementation of it but that's limited to the Sense UI. All this leaves me to ask the question I have already in the subject line. Is it really difficult to improve copy and paste? I dislike the iPhone for a lot of reasons but one thing I think they've done well is copy and paste. It still has issues but it's far above what Android has to offer right now. Even the improved version in Gingerbread is just for text selection. Is anyone up to the task?
Well I'm glad that I managed to get such a big response to this issue >_> Seriously though, nobody can improve on what we have? We have kernels that blow the stock ones out of the water, replacement launchers that make people weep in joy, mods like CyanogenMod that make everything run super smooth but nobody has ever touched copy and paste functionality.
Because it works. Yes it could be there for improvement but it's something that already works and is decent enough. You make it sound like that it needs such a vast improvement. Android is for phones, not desktops. I see no problem in using copy and paste because it works fine. Devs have other issues to be getting on with like making stable roms, kernels, so on.
The same could be said about a whole heap of stuff like the default launcher, the default widgets, kernel etc. They all work but have been vastly improved by the dev community. I'm just wondering if there's a better reason than nobody has bothered yet. You might think it's decent enough, frankly I think it's a pretty weak point in Android.
There are lots of legacy devices that won't see 2.3, some won't see 2.2 and others that won't even see 2.1 but are still very capable phones. I can live with how it works in 2.3 and when HTC use it to improve their 2.2 copy and paste it'll be even better but as I said not everyone will have that ability. I honestly think that anyone who came up with a better solution for older phones could make a fair amount on the market. If I had the programming skills to attempt it myself I would.
I guess Google made decisions to sort of "cut back" on their dev like widgets and launcher because they wanted a nice dev community. And guess what, they've got one. Go ask a developer directly. I don't think that they would of seen this post. Personally, I think that Android is such an awesome OS to use and I can't really say anything bad about it. To be honest, all the stuff that Google does is free and is a great service.
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Posting this on an android forum your going to get major disagreements, but I totally support you. Switched from an iPhone 3Gs to a Nexus S and I would change back in a heartbeat!
Everythings so much more, polished, okay not as many mods, etc for battery life but the battery lasted so much longer anyway!
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Posting this on an android forum your going to get major disagreements, but I totally support you. Switched from an iPhone 3Gs to a Nexus S and I would change back in a heartbeat!
Everythings so much more, polished, okay not as many mods, etc for battery life but the battery lasted so much longer anyway!
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that's exactly what I want, i want people to argue their case, i've explained through personal experience why I feel this way, if somebody beg's to differ, I want them to explain why! Please enlighten me!
As it stands there are more mod's and tweaks available for a Jailbroken iOS!
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i jailbroke and unlocked a lot of iphones i must that iOS is a dry OS with nothing to look for too after i saw the iOS 5... also iTunes is a Piece of **** of a program..
i cant imagine myself need to jailbreak everytime i update the phone it kinda annoying and insane..
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i jailbroke and unlocked a lot of iphones i must that iOS is a dry OS with nothing to look for too after i saw the iOS 5... also iTunes is a Piece of **** of a program..
i cant imagine myself need to jailbreak everytime i update the phone it kinda annoying and insane..
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the iOS updates only come once every few months, and only when major updates are required. In this case, u wait until that release is jailbreakable and hold off. In the mean time u can find apps that backup all ur tweaks and settings so its a simple backup and restore process once u re-jailbreak on the newer firmware. no biggy.
iOS is only dry if you don't tweak it, if u use all the tweaks and addons, lockinfo screen, biteSMS, sbsettings, home screens, dock modifiers, it's all there.
I don't see how you can say it's dry if the apps on iOS look pristine compared to Android apps
Android is easier to work with
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easier to work with how?! have u used a jailbroken iPhone?? at least explain
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easier to work with how?! have u used a jailbroken iPhone?? at least explain
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The only thing jailbreaking really allows is the use of 3rd party apps...which android can do out of the box. Not a shot at you, but you probably don't know enough about android or computers in general to have a clear cut idea of what you can really do. The ability to use adb and fastboot and apply System themes (not just overlays) make the possibilities endless. The ability to change between sense, touchwiz, blur and AOSP ROM's. Changing fonts, creating your own app icons, bootanimations, splash screens. Android gives you the tools to easily do these things on your own, not just use someone elses. You can create your own theme in 10 minutes online.
Cydia would not be possible for Android. The tweaks and mods android uses go much much deeper into the system than anything on Iphone. Changes made to the system are not compatible for every phone. And with the such high number of android phones it would make it an almost impossible app to keep up with, and not really worth the time.
I'm going to leave most of this topic alone, as I've never used an iPhone and therefore have no way of countering any claims made in its favour, however I must point out that I don't consider the availability of pirated apps when I decide on which phone to purchase.
If you can afford a $600 phone you can probably afford to buy a few apps as well.
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the iOS updates only come once every few months, and only when major updates are required. In this case, u wait until that release is jailbreakable and hold off. In the mean time u can find apps that backup all ur tweaks and settings so its a simple backup and restore process once u re-jailbreak on the newer firmware. no biggy.
iOS is only dry if you don't tweak it, if u use all the tweaks and addons, lockinfo screen, biteSMS, sbsettings, home screens, dock modifiers, it's all there.
I don't see how you can say it's dry if the apps on iOS look pristine compared to Android apps
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It is a huge headache about iOS updates. Yes you don't have to update, but what if your device broke and you needed a replacement? All your pre-5.0 SHSH blobs are now useless and you are stuck with a phone that is user friendly enough for your mom, but not powerful enough for yourself.
I don't even need to explain how terrible iTunes is.
Yes, iPhones are all good phones, and iOS is a good OS, no doubt about that (actually I myself am an iPhone user). But to say it's easier to mod and tweak iOS than Android is just not true.
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The only thing jailbreaking really allows is the use of 3rd party apps...which android can do out of the box. Not a shot at you, but you probably don't know enough about android or computers in general to have a clear cut idea of what you can really do. The ability to use adb and fastboot and apply System themes (not just overlays) make the possibilities endless. The ability to change between sense, touchwiz, blur and AOSP ROM's. Changing fonts, creating your own app icons, bootanimations, splash screens. Android gives you the tools to easily do these things on your own, not just use someone elses. You can create your own theme in 10 minutes online.
Cydia would not be possible for Android. The tweaks and mods android uses go much much deeper into the system than anything on Iphone. Changes made to the system are not compatible for every phone. And with the such high number of android phones it would make it an almost impossible app to keep up with, and not really worth the time.
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ok i see your point on some stuff here, it is "possible" to make these smaller detail changes to Android and not just overlays (ful themes etc) but you have to completely do it all yourself using command lines, pulling files, modifying java perhaps etc this also probably requires a computer therefore u can't just do it directly on your phone like you can with cydia, its also not organized into categories simply for downloading and patching, as it is with cydia
I beg to differ about the depth (system wise) of these tweaks and mod's, because although you have to do more work to apply them on android, the depth of them, relative to the system processes, is exactly the same really.
Either way, I do see your points, do you have any suggestions for good methods of modifying say for example: the colour of the GSM reception bars ONLY, in absence of everything else, without having to code in java?? (it would probably be very hard to come up with a simple answer to this question, yes i know. Because it's not straight forward and easy like it is on a jailbroken iPhone)
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It is a huge headache about iOS updates. Yes you don't have to update, but what if your device broke and you needed a replacement? All your pre-5.0 SHSH blobs are now useless and you are stuck with a phone that is user friendly enough for your mom, but not powerful enough for yourself.
I don't even need to explain how terrible iTunes is.
Yes, iPhones are all good phones, and iOS is a good OS, no doubt about that (actually I myself am an iPhone user). But to say it's easier to mod and tweak iOS than Android is just not true.
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simple, if this was to ever happen and you lose your previous SHSH blobs then u just have to wait AT MOST, a month of jailbreak to become available. maybe 2 weeks, if its a fresh firmware
most likely if u had a replacement device then the firmware if came with would be jailbreakable anyways because each firmware gets jailbroken very quickly, and again its not like they come out with new firmwares every week. Rarely do people run into SHSH blob problems now that it's always auto backed up by cydia
forget itunes.. what do we use it for now anyways? its only a partial server backup of ur apps and such, i dont use it for music or movies etc.
In any case, when i upgrade firmwares, i resync all my apps back, from itunes cracked or not.. and all the backed up cydia apps and tweaks also.. in no time ur device is back to normal.
Im still saying its definitely easier to mod and tweak iOS when it's all laid out for you right there in cydia, without having to punch a whole bunch of command lines, pull files, edit some java and then put the file back in, thats the bare more hard way to ever have to tweak or modify for your average non-programmer user.
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simple, if this was to ever happen and you lose your previous SHSH blobs then u just have to wait AT MOST, a month of jailbreak to become available. maybe 2 weeks, if its a fresh firmware
most likely if u had a replacement device then the firmware if came with would be jailbreakable anyways because each firmware gets jailbroken very quickly, and again its not like they come out with new firmwares every week. Rarely do people run into SHSH blob problems now that it's always auto backed up by cydia
forget itunes.. what do we use it for now anyways? its only a partial server backup of ur apps and such, i dont use it for music or movies etc.
In any case, when i upgrade firmwares, i resync all my apps back, from itunes cracked or not.. and all the backed up cydia apps and tweaks also.. in no time ur device is back to normal.
Im still saying its definitely easier to mod and tweak iOS when it's all laid out for you right there in cydia, without having to punch a whole bunch of command lines, pull files, edit some java and then put the file back in, thats the bare more hard way to ever have to tweak or modify for your average non-programmer user.
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Hmmm at most a month? Are you sure about that? I waited 3 months before I could jailbreak my iPad 2. And that's because comex was not working for Apple then. Apple has always been keen on patching vulnerabilities so I would imagine jailbreaking becoming more and more difficult.
Cydia backs up the blobs automatically? How can you even do that if you can't jailbreak in the first place?
Sure, Cydia is easier for average users. But how good is it if you can't even put it on your device?
Anyways I don't think it's a good idea for a user to mod his phone if he can't even search on forums for mods.
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ok i see your point on some stuff here, it is "possible" to make these smaller detail changes to Android and not just overlays (ful themes etc) but you have to completely do it all yourself using command lines, pulling files, modifying java perhaps etc this also probably requires a computer therefore u can't just do it directly on your phone like you can with cydia, its also not organized into categories simply for downloading and patching, as it is with cydia
I beg to differ about the depth (system wise) of these tweaks and mod's, because although you have to do more work to apply them on android, the depth of them, relative to the system processes, is exactly the same really.
Either way, I do see your points, do you have any suggestions for good methods of modifying say for example: the colour of the GSM reception bars ONLY, in absence of everything else, without having to code in java?? (it would probably be very hard to come up with a simple answer to this question, yes i know. Because it's not straight forward and easy like it is on a jailbroken iPhone)
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Rom Toolbox has icons for the GSM reception bars, along with some others.
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Rom Toolbox has icons for the GSM reception bars, along with some others.
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i'll check it out for sure
UKROB86 said:
ok i see your point on some stuff here, it is "possible" to make these smaller detail changes to Android and not just overlays (ful themes etc) but you have to completely do it all yourself using command lines, pulling files, modifying java perhaps etc this also probably requires a computer therefore u can't just do it directly on your phone like you can with cydia, its also not organized into categories simply for downloading and patching, as it is with cydia
I beg to differ about the depth (system wise) of these tweaks and mod's, because although you have to do more work to apply them on android, the depth of them, relative to the system processes, is exactly the same really.
Either way, I do see your points, do you have any suggestions for good methods of modifying say for example: the colour of the GSM reception bars ONLY, in absence of everything else, without having to code in java?? (it would probably be very hard to come up with a simple answer to this question, yes i know. Because it's not straight forward and easy like it is on a jailbroken iPhone)
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Personally, I would rather it not be that easy to tweak and mod. Changes that deep into the system can eff up your phone, and if it is as easy as clicking an app..you probably won't know how to fix it. Plus, when it is hard, less people do it. So while you debate about Apple being better, I already know my Android is better than the guy's next to me.
Well as said, something like cydia would not work for us since we have so many devices with different hardware and structure. I do not get what you mean by more customizable though. We can change our notification bar, launcher, icons, system layout, anything. Literally anything. Why? Cuz we have the friggin source code. I could go and get the source code and make android have some code in it to make a backdoor that sends your private information to me. I really could do anything. Get how drastic the changes could be? Now here's what it comes down to really, the app developers. The people who would spend time and implement your ideas or make apps that would satisfy your needs. Nothing to do with android the system, has to do with its ecosystem however.
Well in my opinion, the Android is not easy to work with, but it is easier to understand. I used to be an Iphone user but, it didn't work out for me. Its features confused me and I didn't understand what its JailBreak meant for it. I also found it difficult (Was an Iphone Jailbreaker ) on how to get to where I wanted to get.
One major thing to consider: Android has more than one phone. Not every single developer has the same exact phone which they are all developing for. If every Android user had a say, HTC EVO 3D, then the development community for the EVO 3D would be huge, like Apple's. This is not a draw back, but a difference between the two platforms. I respect both, but I love Android too much to leave with. And yes with multiple phones comes fragmentation, but hey get the best phone every time you can, like me, or root that SOB!
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I am getting really frustrated with my wife's Nexus S. Currently it has ICS with glados kernel, but the problem persists no matter what rom/kernel combo I put on it, the phone always randomly reboots. It has been doing this for months now. It will be sitting on the bed and we'll just see the boot animation, it turns right back on so only has a few seconds of down time but it does it CONSTANTLY, every couple of hours.
Is it possible the phone has something physically wrong? What can I look into? I'm bout ready to unroot and warranty exchange. I run the app "aLogcat" on it, but that doesn't really answer much *probably because it's a bit over my head* When I set it to Fatal level logging, nothing really even shows up. I can post the log cat result if anyone would care to look at it for me
Have you tried raising voltages??
Are you using any oc settings or live oc?
I haven't messed with anything related to processors since I had a G2 lol. Do I just use Set CPU? I've never really dredged into that subject because I don't know what voltages to set it to, etc. Can logcat help confirm that could be the issue? The only thing I can really interpret from it is that winamp is having Wifi issues... but I don't even have wifi activated in the app.
I see these posts all the time and I'm sorry I picked you to harass.
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DON'T MOD YOUR WIFE'S/GIRLFRIEND'S/FRIEND'S/ANYONE'S PHONE!
Seriously, they don't care about overclocking, undervolting, cool mods or whatever as much as they care that the phone turns on, makes calls and doesn't reboot. And if they really do care you need to tell them to do it themselves.
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Also reboots are annoying and I hope you are able to get yours sorted out.
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I see these posts all the time and I'm sorry I picked you to harass.
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DON'T MOD YOUR WIFE'S/GIRLFRIEND'S/FRIEND'S/ANYONE'S PHONE!
Seriously, they don't care about overclocking, undervolting, cool mods or whatever as much as they care that the phone turns on, makes calls and doesn't reboot. And if they really do care you need to tell them to do it themselves.
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Wow, I didn't realize that you knew my wife. She had a rooted G1 when I met her, and has been using Cyanogenmod since CM5, with a break while she had a vibrant because it doesn't have CM. You are extremely offensive to women, and you are a sexist, close-minded neanderthal.
She does lots of things with her phone, and hates it stock. She and I are both stumped about the issue so *I* posted up. I'm not some retard that modded my casual girlfriend's phone and screwed it up on her.
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Also reboots are annoying and I hope you are able to get yours sorted out.
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Yeah it's really frustrating, at least it comes right back up. My Evo 3D needs a battery pull when it happens because it locks up on the bootanim
I may look into newer ICS builds, but like I said this is across all rom's/kernels
Can SetCPU help even if I'm not sure the exact voltages to play with? I've just always been against Profiles running so I haven't used it in quite a while. Any ideas to try out?
I think that you should go back to a factory set with GB just to check that the hardware is fine...
I'll try that probably tomorrow. Going to drive her nuts stock though haha. I know her vibrant GPS issues ended up being hardware
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Wow, I didn't realize that you knew my wife. She had a rooted G1 when I met her, and has been using Cyanogenmod since CM5, with a break while she had a vibrant because it doesn't have CM. You are extremely offensive to women, and you are a sexist, close-minded neanderthal.
She does lots of things with her phone, and hates it stock. She and I are both stumped about the issue so *I* posted up. I'm not some retard that modded my casual girlfriend's phone and screwed it up on her.
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See I knew I was going to say it to the wrong person. I'm not sexist it's just that so many people think it's a good idea to mod someone else's stuff and usually what I read on here is "my gf". I'm actually quite sure that tons of users on here are women either intentionally trying to hide there gender or use a name that is neutral. Which is sad if they have been made to feel that is necessary. Anyway if your wife actually does some flashing, modding, or whatever then I apologize to you. However, my point still stands for the rest of users that mod other people's phones. Just don't do it!
Didn't mean to go off on ya, but we're definitely not that case Our whole house is full of modded stuff, Modded Wii, PSP, Anything android, lots of *geek* mods to my car, etc. I've swayed her this way but she already had it in her to begin with
But yes, I agree with you. I have people coming to me ALL the time to root/mod/whatever their phones and I used to help out a lot, but now I debrief them on what it all means and most back out of it because it isn't relevant to them. And whoever I do help I treat it more like a learning experience and teach them how to maintain it on a basic level without me *changing roms, etc* and don't help people unless they're willing to understand it. Pretty good system I think lol
I'm also having random reboots on the Nexus S that I got just recently. I ran a 100% stock unrooted rom for about a day and no reboots, but I primarily got the nexus for cm7 so I had to go back. Sure enough, within about 12 hours of rooting and flashing, got another reboot. Tried many different roms/kernels and underclocking/overclocking. Let me know if you find a solution.
likewise, if ya beat me to it
Anyone know what voltages to try out? I'm in the process of booting up into GummyNexus, and to test it out I flashed this too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236779
Anyone heard of the Adrenalin Shot? Found it while digging into the Vibrant 4G forums. Universal flash, says it can even help an Evo 3D's 3D Picture quality, but general snappyness. This Nexus S is running crazy fast/good at the moment, but not sure if thats just because its a fresh flash with no apps loaded yet.
Try Matr1x v14.0!!!
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I purchased a third party battery and have been using it for nearly a week without any reboots after having a reboot nearly everyday with the stock battery. Although it doesn't make much logical sense, a different battery seems to have fixed the issue
The battery: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DC2MF6/ref=oh_o00_s00_i01_details
Running Gummy Nexus I haven't seen any reboots VERY stable rom, highly recommended. I also flashed the Universal Adrenaline Shot. I found it hidden in the Galaxy S 4G threads but it's got a specific GS4G version, then a universal that worked great. Very snappy
I have a Galaxy s blaze and i rooted it to get rid of the bloatware. I did not install CWM. Still on stock rom adn everything. I heard about "bln" and that it requires kernels that support it.
However it seems that only CM roms support this. I am satisfied with gingerbread so i will not flash any roms.
Is there not a kernel for gingerbread that i can flash?
-Thanks in advance
It's great that you recognize you are satisfied with GB, but I was also recently jealous of button light notifications so I looked a little into it, with getting them in ICS somehow. I was on stock rooted ICS for a time, found it fine, but it really seems that as time passed, advancements with features was always geared with whatever was the most recent.
Having BLN, from what I read anyways, requires both kernel support, as well as framework stuff that is usually just included with the rom. It seems the kernel stuff was on the easier side to do...
Assuming that is correct, if there's a kernel that supports BLN for it, you're going to need it in the rom anyway, and the stock rom doesn't do it. Which means you're going to be flashing anyway.
Having said all that, jellybean has some nice additions that certainly made it worthwhile for me to switch. I've been real happy with CM10, and wouldn't go back. But if I wanted to, it would literally only take a few minutes to switch back to ICS.
What I'm trying to say is...give an updated rom a try. I have a suspicion you'll not want to go back.
I get what you're saying. However for me its a more been there done that. I owned a Wildfire S and tried a lot of their roms and stuff but overall for me when it comes to phones i really like it normal. I hate now they includes their boot animations and extra backgrounds and all these extra options. I know they took their time to make it but i like the t-mobile feel of this branded t-mobile phone.
Anyway so you're saying i will have to flash roms if i want backlight features. However no GB roms support?
As I mentioned in the first reply, seemed that way to me when I was first looking for something with BLN.
As for the "boot animations and extra backgrounds and all these extra options." opinion, I'm not sure if this really makes sense to me.
Cyanogen for example, actually has a less obtrusive boot animation. I mean, it flashes Samsung briefly, than the circle shape cyanogen thing spins around for a bit, and then you can unlock your phone. I have not timed it, but I think it's even a faster boot time, this is good, right? I think most would agree the boot animation doesn't even matter, but let's be realistic, it's not like the stock boot animation on this phone is something that someone would say is cool, or anything. It just is.
As for the background situation... uh that doesn't make any sense either. As I'm sure you're aware you can use whatever background you want. Personally I have almost always used the "no wallpaper selection" because I like the plain black background. Icons and what not, are pretty much the same. Any of the "over stylized" stuff are just themes, something that's not even included with CM10 by default. If basic and not stylized is what you want, CM10 is EXACTLY that.
Heck, I'd go so far as to say that a large portion of the people who use CM10 like it for that very reason, because touchwiz is in fact the over modified monstrosity they are trying to get rid of.
As for the extra options...They are options, you don't have to use them. You don't even have to use BLN, but in your case I know you want to.
You can also very easily set it up to only have BLN active when you want it to, even on a scheduled basis, thanks to the alarm clock being able to change your profile, if you wish.
I've not used it so it's not a personal recommendation, but it sounds like AOKP might be something worth checking into for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989825
If the icon placement and arrangement looks foreign to you, it's just a launcher. You don't even have to use it. Just saying.
In the end, customization is what makes Android great. If you want simple and straight forward, with additional features, loading a non-stock rom is by far the best way to get it!
Again I get what you mean but I've used cm on my wildfire and I didn't like it. Yeah it's a different phone but the basic rom itself is universal if I'm not mistaken just every phone have their different features. I like touchwiz and I love how fast and responsive my phone is now. I COULD get better performance from any other mod but I'm not willing to try that. My phone and my laptop don't really come across each other a lot and I like that. I don't wanna install cmw and do all this other stuff. For instance, with my wildfire I rooted and the only reason I did a custom rom was because I messed up the stock one without doing a backup. Everything worked fine for a few months then if I tried restart the phone it would boot loop. 10 minutes later after I had to re flash it and use titanium I had the phone back but it was a hassle. Maybe bad rom maybe my fault but that's the point I'm trying to say I don't want that stress. I even got tricked into updating the wildfire which turned out to slow it down even though most people said they got better performance.
Also I mean I bought a t mobile phone from Samsung and I like the professional boot animation representing that. I actually like watching the loading bar. It boots way faster than my wildfire and I only restart it when I'm in my room anyway so speed really isn't a priority for me in this department.
I just thought bln was a cool simple idea that maybe someone would have made compatible one gb and maybe I missed it when searching. But I guess not :/
Mohamed1993 said:
I just thought bln was a cool simple idea that maybe someone would have made compatible one gb and maybe I missed it when searching. But I guess not :/
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It wasn't simple. Still isn't. as BLN is still buggy for us.
Thanks I guess? I'll just check In a couple months and see if they make one for gb through Odin or something. :silly:
That's not gonna happen gingerbread is a wrap. Soon ICS will be too. Open the jelly bean jar or forget about bln. I use it and love it no kinks. Plus its a lifesaver when you didn't hear a text or noti .
I've not used it so it's not a personal recommendation, but it sounds like AOKP might be something worth checking into for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989825
If the icon placement and arrangement looks foreign to you, it's just a launcher. You don't even have to use it. Just saying.
In the end, customization is what makes Android great. If you want simple and straight forward, with additional features, loading a non-stock rom is by far the best way to get it![/QUOTE]
I don't follow what you're saying. Couldn't find any support on bln and why that rom even exist?
Mohamed1993 said:
]I don't follow what you're saying. Couldn't find any support on bln and why that rom even exist?
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Aaaaaand I'm done.
So if you don't like a custom boot/shutdown animation what's stopping you from replacing it with the stock ones? That seems like a silly reason to avoid a rom
As others have stated, development for GB is over and done. If there's something you want that's missing in GB you need to change versions to get it. This rule applies to all OS's i.e. wanting trim in windows xp.
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