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Uk sd cards?

I just ordered a T-mobile Desire and I wanted to get a decent sized SD card for it to take away with me. I had a couple of questions though:
I wondered if I needed any special type of SD card. I looked on Dabs and they have SD cards that have a different class such as class 2, 3, 10, 8 etc.
I wondered if the Desire had some of the same issues as the HD2 has had. That if you use larger SD cards, they might not work or somehow drain the battery. So I wondered if it's best to keep the size down?
Lastly, I wondered where is best to buy SD cards from in the UK to get the best deals?
I also wondered where is best to buy second batteries on price as I am going away and definitely want a 2nd battery to take with me.
Cases too..... are they worth getting?
Thanks

Bandare said:
I just ordered a T-mobile Desire and I wanted to get a decent sized SD card for it to take away with me. I had a couple of questions though:
I wondered if I needed any special type of SD card. I looked on Dabs and they have SD cards that have a different class such as class 2, 3, 10, 8 etc.
I wondered if the Desire had some of the same issues as the HD2 has had. That if you use larger SD cards, they might not work or somehow drain the battery. So I wondered if it's best to keep the size down?
Lastly, I wondered where is best to buy SD cards from in the UK to get the best deals?
I also wondered where is best to buy second batteries on price as I am going away and definitely want a 2nd battery to take with me.
Cases too..... are they worth getting?
Thanks
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Regarding the SD Cards, "Class" is attributed to the speed of the SD Card eg. Class 8 has a higher data transfer rate than Class 2. So when you can, always go for the highest class memory card as this will improve transfer speeds and also if you use Apps2sd on Android (install apps on sd card) it will result in better performance. I have no idea about the issue regarding battery drain, however, I have never noticed any visible changes in battery life using large (16/32gb) cards in my Nexus One over smaller ones.
As for batteries, cases etc. Ebay is always my first stop for accessories. I have bought numerous items from reputable sellers at prices far lower than specific online retailers. Don't be sucked in by gimmicky branding such as "invishield" or "raptor skin" etc, you'll find they all come from the same Hong Kong factories. That said, you tend to get better finishes on the more expensive products but I am using a silicone skin that cost £2.85 and bought 5x screen protectors for 99p and everything is sweet!!
Enjoy the Desire.
Regards.

thanks for the help on the class thing. I didn't know! I'll have to find where in the UK is best to buy the cheapest 16 gig SD card

dunno about apps2sd but when playing music I only have a class 2 SD which set me back about £22 for a 16gb one from ebay UK seller and it all works fine. Though as far as I am aware the better the class the faster the SD card I think ill only use mine for music atm and happy with what its doing
If you can afford it though go for the best class you can!

I'll have to have a look on ebay. I think I'll look for a silicon case for it if I can.
I'll also look on ebay for a 16 gig card too..... thanks.

ebay or ebuyer are probably the cheapest for that sort of stuff unfortunately dabs is quite expensive

I want to go for a 16GB card but I'm also wanting a fast one but struggling with finding anything above a Class 2. Can anyone point me at any 16GB Class 4, 6 or 8's they come across.
Many thanks!

Bandare said:
I also wondered where is best to buy second batteries on price as I am going away and definitely want a 2nd battery to take with me.
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The best price I found for official HTC batteries was Handtec. Even with their postage, it's still very good value (total £18.19) and they say they have them in stock.

norm2002 said:
The best price I found for official HTC batteries was Handtec. Even with their postage, it's still very good value (total £18.19) and they say they have them in stock.
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Are these exactly the same batteries or more powerful ones?

Lats said:
Are these exactly the same batteries or more powerful ones?
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According to their website, just the normal 1400mAh version.

I ordered a class 2 16GB San Disk sd card from Carphone Warehouse £29.99 Delivered

redmongoose said:
I ordered a class 2 16GB San Disk sd card from Carphone Warehouse £29.99 Delivered
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that's a great deal. I looked at that last night. However, as I want to get two SD cards. One for music and another for stuff like video etc, i thought I'd have a really good look. Managed to find one on play.com for £17.99.
Hope you don't mind me posting that now you already got yours Mr Goose
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UPDATE: I got it wrong but after looking again on play.com I found a PNY class 4 for £27.99

Bandare said:
that's a great deal. I looked at that last night. However, as I want to get two SD cards. One for music and another for stuff like video etc, i thought I'd have a really good look. Managed to find one on for £17.99.
Hope you don't mind me posting that now you already got yours Mr Goose
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That isn't micro SD.
I'm too looking out for a class 8 (or so) microSD card that is 16GB. Not had much luck.

Thank goodness Mr goose added a link. I just checked again what he bought and yes, I got it wrong. Thank goodness for double checking and Mr goose adding a link!
Back to looking.

I currently have a Sandisk Class 4 8Gb Micro SDHC in my Blackberry Bold, which I will probably transfer to my Desire (when I get it).
Do you think this would be fast enough for Apps2SD (when the Desire gets rooted)?
What is the fastest class out there at the moment?
I will eventually buy a 16 or 32Gb one I think, but will stick to the 8Gb at the moment.

StuMcBill said:
I currently have a Sandisk Class 4 8Gb Micro SDHC in my Blackberry Bold, which I will probably transfer to my Desire (when I get it).
Do you think this would be fast enough for Apps2SD (when the Desire gets rooted)?
What is the fastest class out there at the moment?
I will eventually buy a 16 or 32Gb one I think, but will stick to the 8Gb at the moment.
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I saw some class 8 cards......

Just to let you guys know you don't really need class 8.
I have a class 2 16gb card. Apps2SD was fine on the G1 and ran like they were on the actual phone (even though people recommend 4 or 6).
The data transfer rate is also fine.

16GB MicroSDHC Cards on Amazon
I had a little look around last week and found the following speedy, but expensive 16GB cards on Amazon:
Transcend 16 GB Class 6 microSDHC Flash Memory Card £52.67
KINGSTON 16GB microSDHC Class 10 Flash Card £85.11
Personally, I feel that's too much money. I think it's a better idea to come down a size to 8GB, because you can find the following:
Transcend 8 GB Class 6 microSDHC Flash Memory Card £13.99
You can buy several 8GB cards for the price of those 16GB jobbies if you don't mind swapping them. Also, time will eventually bring the price of those 16GB high speed cards down to a more sensible level, if you're prepared to wait.
I haven't yet decided whether or not to replace the supplied 4GB card, but if I do, it'll be one of those <£15 8GB cards.
I would have posted the above as links, however, this board thinks I'm trying to post spam. So you'll have to paste the above descriptions into amazon.co.uk and search for these yourself.

Bandare said:
that's a great deal. I looked at that last night. However, as I want to get two SD cards. One for music and another for stuff like video etc, i thought I'd have a really good look. Managed to find one on play.com for £17.99.
Hope you don't mind me posting that now you already got yours Mr Goose
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UPDATE: I got it wrong but after looking again on play.com I found a PNY class 4 for £27.99
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I'm not saying it would be a problem for you but you've already got a Desire yes? You are aware that the memory card is not "hot swappable" as the battery has to be removed to get the card out?
What I am saying though is, personally, it would drive me nuts.

Kingston have recently released a class 10 16gb microsd, but as you can imagine, it's a bit pricey! Most retailers online have it for sale at about £85-90.

which 16gb memory card

hi i'm after a 16gb memory card but don't know what class to get, as cheap as possible but it must be from a well known manufacturer

Probably doesn't matter what anyone says - whichever brand person X stands behind, somenoe else will say it failed on them and to go for brand Y.
Having said that, I have a 16gb Kingston class 2 which has been perfect, cost about £25 or so when I got it. Recently picked up the same but a class 10. That one was about £80 including shipping as I wanted to see the speed difference, etc.
Not sure what others people will swear by. I don't swear by Kingston, but I have yet to have one go bad on me...

isaw said:
Probably doesn't matter what anyone says - whichever brand person X stands behind, somenoe else will say it failed on them and to go for brand Y.
Having said that, I have a 16gb Kingston class 2 which has been perfect, cost about £25 or so when I got it. Recently picked up the same but a class 10. That one was about £80 including shipping as I wanted to see the speed difference, etc.
Not sure what others people will swear by. I don't swear by Kingston, but I have yet to have one go bad on me...
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And was the Class 10 worth it for speed?
I've used both Kingston and Sandisk in the past - and currently have a 8GB Class 6 Sandisk in my desire. It's been just fine.
I'd like to make the leap to a 32GB card, but I'm slightly concerned the Class 2 one available might have issues. (Although I've read many contradicting posts on that subject too!)

@TractorMatty
Between an older 16gig class 2 and the 16gig class 10 yes - galleries rendered much quicker, seemed more responsive, etc.
But between a class 6 and a class 10... meh. Not worth it at the moment.

Does it matter what class you get? Because so far I can only find a 16bg class for over just £20.

Using Team Group 16GB microSDHC Class 6.
Got it from ebay

Go for Classe 6 it's almost like a C10, but cheaper (and you won't really notice any difference).

KameoRE said:
Go for Classe 6 it's almost like a C10, but cheaper (and you won't really notice any difference).
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And you won't with a decent Class 2 either!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Well, i can tell the diff between my shipped in Desire's Samsung 4G Classe 2 and my previous Sandisk 8G Classe 4... My Classe 4 is faster.

I got a 8gb class 4 Kingston.. its fast enough for me...
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

I took the risk and tried the 32gb, online for $40au... failed miserably and still scarred by the copious time spent trying to copy, format, reformat, copy... with most ending up in the lost.dir (except for 1.2gb that ended up working).
Since then, have got a 16gb SanDisk. It's only a Class 2, but haven't had any issues with speed whether it be reading or writing. Avi's play in sync... Good bang for the buck.
Mind you, I only went for SanDisk because they were always good to me in the standard SD days, but have heard plenty of good word on Kingston and Lexar.

32gb on ebay are 75% fakes.

I just got my Kingston 16gb Class 10 card. Do you guys think my card reader's speed is maxed out and it might be able to go faster than this?

I'll be getting THIS ONE when they get it back in stock.

Well, just got a Kingston 16Gb class 10 and can't use it, because it's defective .
But I'm not blaming Kingston, it can happen with any brand and I'm gonna exchange it... Hopefully I have a Sandisk 16Gb class 2, a not-very-fast-but-working-SD-card....

Teppic24 said:
I'll be getting THIS ONE when they get it back in stock.
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Is this website reliable for the quality of the card? it will be 100% original?

dorittos said:
Is this website reliable for the quality of the card? it will be 100% original?
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i've ordered that card so will let you know what its like when it arrives

i got mine from ebay (team class6 16gb)
no issues so far

Just to share with you I gotten myself the Toshiba 16GB Class 4 MicroSD in HK about 44USD
A bit on the high side, but the card is made in Japan
Working fine (using A2SD+) till now

dorittos said:
Is this website reliable for the quality of the card? it will be 100% original?
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very respectable web site. selling genuine items

16gb mircoSD Cards

I'm looking to get a new micro sd card, as my 8gb is out of room and frequently unmounts or goes read-only on my mobile. Im wondering where to get one and what kind of 16gb sd card I should get as after looking on ebay its a bit hard to tell what is fake and what isnt and I dont know any other stores that sell them..
Preferably class4+ and size 16gb
I live in australia by the way..

There is a guy selling some in the market here for $20, legit.
But I think there class 4 cards.
And this is the one thing that I wouldn't trust ebay with because there are so many fakes.

mafiaboy01 said:
There is a guy selling some in the market here for $20, legit.
But I think there class 4 cards.
And this is the one thing that I wouldn't trust ebay with because there are so many fakes.
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Wow nice, if only I lived in canada...
Do you know of a legitimate online store that sells them? I remember a thread that had good quality ones but I forgot the name of it and at the time they were out of stock..

Actually the guy selling them lives in the states.

Hi,
I had the same problem with the sporadically unmounts (sometimes several times a day) so I decided to buy a different card. I bought a class 4 Kingston 16GB sdhc on eBay. I paid in Germany about 29 Euro for it.
Now there are no more problems with the storage. I hope I could help you.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

I've just ordered Patriot 16gb Class 10 through Amazon, it costs 30++ USD without shipping (considered very cheap for class 10 and it has quite a good review from users).

fatthumb said:
I've just ordered Patriot 16gb Class 10 through Amazon, it costs 30++ USD without shipping (considered very cheap for class 10 and it has quite a good review from users).
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Using this card for a few weeks alrdy no problem so far
And I bought it from Amazon too
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Using Sandisk 16GB, class 4 now. What is the cluster size I should be using to format the card?

desztan said:
Using Sandisk 16GB, class 4 (...)
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I'm using the same and am totally satisfied with it. Nice speed and reliable so far.

I got a Kingmax Micro SD TF Card 16GB Class 10 for $80 SGD.
Seems to be quite fast:
Write: 11+ MB/s
Read: 115+ MB/s
http://www.play-asia.com/Kingmax_Micro_SD_TF_Card_16GB_Class_10_W_Adapter/paOS-13-71-18b-49-en-70-40pg.html

Burning_aces said:
I'm looking to get a new micro sd card, as my 8gb is out of room and frequently unmounts or goes read-only on my mobile. Im wondering where to get one and what kind of 16gb sd card I should get as after looking on ebay its a bit hard to tell what is fake and what isnt and I dont know any other stores that sell them..
Preferably class4+ and size 16gb
I live in australia by the way..
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I'm using a Kingston 16GB class 4 card bought from Amazon, in my honest opinion I think that class 10 is much of a muchness and the price difference can be vast.
I would not buy from Ebay, chances of getting a fake is much higher here, rather use Amazon or some other reputable seller.

What is the cluster size did you format.

I got a few off ebay. They start low, around 1$ and go up, i got one for 11$ before.

i SO need to get me a bigger sd card!

PNY 32GB Class 10 MicroSDHC - $55 shipped [NEW COUPON Oct-11]

@Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...MC-091311-Index-_-FlashMemory-_-20178381-L09D
Use coupon code EMCJKJJ45 to bring it down to $55. Pretty decent price for a class 10 chip from a known manufacturer.
Edit: Varying write benchmarks on Newegg and Amazon. Some are hitting class 10 speeds, some aren't. YMMV.

Awesome! Thanks for 2sharing

Just be careful and make sure its genuine, I have heard a lot of stuff about fake cards claiming to be class 10.
Whereas if you go for a good brand it might actually perform better.
I have a sandisk, 32gb, class 4, and i have 20 gb of music of my sensation, it works perfectly, better then my ipod touch! So I wouldnt pay much attention to the class but more to the quality of the card.
Granted the write speed is slow, took me a long time to get the 20gb of music on, but reading speed is somewhere around 10 to 16 mbps, and thats from a class 4!

This one is legit- got suckered in some ebay buys of fake cards, went ahead and bought this one a while back from NewEgg and never looked back. PNY is a good brand. I use this one currently and have had no issues .

Ordered one...
I put in my order at Newegg this morning. Coupon code worked. Unfortunately, since I live in California, I had to pay sales tax so it cost me $3.99 extra

Yep, I bought this card from newegg. It is legit!

meteor999 said:
Just be careful and make sure its genuine, I have heard a lot of stuff about fake cards claiming to be class 10.
Whereas if you go for a good brand it might actually perform better.
I have a sandisk, 32gb, class 4, and i have 20 gb of music of my sensation, it works perfectly, better then my ipod touch! So I wouldnt pay much attention to the class but more to the quality of the card.
Granted the write speed is slow, took me a long time to get the 20gb of music on, but reading speed is somewhere around 10 to 16 mbps, and thats from a class 4!
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It's from newegg and its pny. Can't get more real than that.
Sent from my Sensation

Because the promo code ends today, there is also at Amazon for 56$ if anyone is interested.
http://www.amazon.com/PNY-Hi-Speed-MicroSDHC-Tablet-P-SDU32G10TEFM1/dp/B0052W534E

they have some class 10 32's at frys for 30$ btw

freco said:
Because the promo code ends today, there is also at Amazon for 56$ if anyone is interested.
http://www.amazon.com/PNY-Hi-Speed-MicroSDHC-Tablet-P-SDU32G10TEFM1/dp/B0052W534E
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They change price back to 69. As soon as newegg's offer ended they changed it.

Thank for shared
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium

I got the email promotion and bought it as soon as I saw it lol. Got it in the mail yesterday. Noticable space and performance improvement from the stock 8 gb card. Everything that is on the sd card loads much faster now. This card may not be a high end class 10 card but it is that of a high end class 6 card which should be good enough for phone usage. You will be able to record hd with this card just fine. I've been waiting for it to be instock and on sale since the day i have my Sensation lol. Gotta love new egg.

How can i buy this card from Europe ? The Newegg don't send to Europe.
later edit: meantime i bought from Amazon, they send to Europe

Good price, thanks for shared

Unfortunately my stock 8gb card died. Contemplating between this or the 16gb class 10.

This one (DMY 32GB class 10), at this price, is fantastic. I already put it in my Sensation and the phone is flying (like a pig) with 32 GB. My laptop geting jealous. I warmly recommend it !

I have a 16gb PNY in my Sensation and I have to say I am disappointed with the performance of a so called class 10 card. SD Tools reports write speeds of <8MB/s which is no better than the 8GB Kingston class 4 (though seems to be under rated) that come bundled with the Sensation. Alarmingly, that falls below the 10MB/s minimum for a class 10.
Is SD Tools a reliable app?

anlygi said:
I have a 16gb PNY in my Sensation and I have to say I am disappointed with the performance of a so called class 10 card. SD Tools reports write speeds of <8MB/s which is no better than the 8GB Kingston class 4 (though seems to be under rated) that come bundled with the Sensation. Alarmingly, that falls below the 10MB/s minimum for a class 10.
Is SD Tools a reliable app?
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Test the card on a computer instead.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G

Is the rating for read or write? I have a Patriot 16GB C10 that gets 8.6MB write and 19.4MB read.

GideonX said:
Test the card on a computer instead.
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I think my ancient card reader might hinder things though saying that it's USB 2.0 so will see how it goes thanks.
tuner562 said:
Is the rating for read or write? I have a Patriot 16GB C10 that gets 8.6MB write and 19.4MB read.
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Rating is for write speeds. 10MB/s should be minimum, PNY packaging states up to 15MB.

Samsung 32Gb Class 10 microsd

Just bagged one of these for £39.99, thought it was a good deal
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_6&products_id=112725

Hello,
I have it, bought on Amazon at 32€
It works fine.

I bought Lexar 32gb class 10 for 47$...
www.amazon.com/Lexar-MicroSDHC-Memory-Reader-LSDMI32GBSBNAR/dp/B004AM610M
Waiting for delivery...

I can vouch for LEXAR. perfect at around 10MBPS for video files and ROM zips lol. Bought mine for 50

Thanks for the heads-up on this.
Been looking around for a while for a decent 32GB card and this seems to be the cheapest of it's kind. There are some cheaper ones around but a lower class of 6 or 4.

Pinball_ said:
Just bagged one of these for £39.99, thought it was a good deal
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_6&products_id=112725
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Just ordered one too for just under €30, amazing that the prices are dropping so fast!
http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/?ID=453820

In for the updates.
I currently have a Patriot 32GB Class 10... It's awful. Likely the worst card on the market. I've had so many issues with it. It corrupts easily. It's happened a few times this year. Each time it did it I lost just about everything on the card. (Luckily I use TI Media Sync to back up my card to my FTP server.)
I don't use USB to mount the card as a drive that often. Usually I use Samba or something to wirelessly move files. But the times it has corrupted was when it was either sitting idle or I was watching a video.
I just ordered the ADATA 32GB Class 10 since it's got a lot of good reviews. But I'd like to see how you guys do with this card. I could always sell my ADATA card and buy this one if it turns out to be better.
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Never mind. I canceled my order for the ADATA card and just ordered the US version of this one. I like Samsung products. Their SSDs are freaking amazing and their customer support has been really good so far. This one was only $2 more than the ADATA one so it wasn't worth the wasted time to try the ADATA first.

scm_crash said:
In for the updates.
I currently have a Patriot 32GB Class 10... It's awful. Likely the worst card on the market. I've had so many issues with it. It corrupts easily. It's happened a few times this year. Each time it did it I lost just about everything on the card. (Luckily I use TI Media Sync to back up my card to my FTP server.)
I don't use USB to mount the card as a drive that often. Usually I use Samba or something to wirelessly move files. But the times it has corrupted was when it was either sitting idle or I was watching a video.
I just ordered the ADATA 32GB Class 10 since it's got a lot of good reviews. But I'd like to see how you guys do with this card. I could always sell my ADATA card and buy this one if it turns out to be better.
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Never mind. I canceled my order for the ADATA card and just ordered the US version of this one. I like Samsung products. Their SSDs are freaking amazing and their customer support has been really good so far. This one was only $2 more than the ADATA one so it wasn't worth the wasted time to try the ADATA first.
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Can you share the link where to get the Samsung's
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium

jhobert said:
Can you share the link where to get the Samsung's
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
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This is what I bought: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005TUQV0E

Would you share the link

dazdeeuk said:
Would you share the link
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What link? The one I posted above?

atticus182 said:
Just ordered one too for just under €30, amazing that the prices are dropping so fast!
http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/?ID=453820
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I tried to order one but they do not ship to Greece. Sh...t
Thanks for the info though.

freco said:
I tried to order one but they do not ship to Greece. Sh...t
Thanks for the info though.
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Have someone in the UK buy it and mail it to you.

Azerty.nl only ship to Holland and Belguim so that not an option.
play.com have it cheap too at £34.99 with free shipping:
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...tml?_$ja=tsid:11518|cat:23960650|prd:23960650

Been running ADATA 32G C10 card for quite a few months now . Not a single hiccup
ever ! Great card quality and highly recommended .

I am waiting for micro sd's to go on sale. Lexar 32gb one on amazon up to $66 ._.

Got the Samsung card today.
First off, it's the first and ONLY large capacity SD card I've put into my laptop that was recognized. My Laptop has recognized all cards 4GB and down, but it didn't recognize either of my 16GB or 32GB cards without asking to reformat them. I don't know why. I wasn't expecting my laptop to recognize this 32GB card. But it did. So that's a BIG plus.
Secondly, I'm using RoboCopy to move over all my stuff from my phone over USB to the new card in the SD slot. There's about 20GBs of crap to send over. Robocopy isn't telling me how fast it's going, but it's taking about 5 seconds to copy over 100 MB, so I put that at > 10MB/s easily. Probably a lot faster. I'll run crystal mark on it as soon as I get done copying my crap over and then I'll do an SD Speed test on my phone.
For the record I've never been able to get the Patriot 32GB card in my phone right now to write faster than 8MB/s (which I honestly believe is due to the phone's limitations, not the cards).
The only reason I'm changing cards at all is because the Patriot keeps corrupting. I've lost so much, thanks to the patriot SD. The one week I turned off Titanium Media Sync is the one week my SD card freaked out. LOL That'll teach me to turn off backup.
Anyway, I'll post up the results from both cards if I have time.

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Below is the link you requested for:
http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/?ID=453820

FYI, SanDisk's having a black Friday sale. the 32gb micro sdhc is $50 on their site. can't make out what class from the pic on my mobile.

I would have bought SanDisk if I could find a class 10 micro SD, but I couldn't find ANYONE who sold a SanDisk 32GB class 10.
I think that pretty much all 32GB Class 10 MicroSDs are garbage and SanDisk doesn't want to tarnish their name.
On the flip-side, I've found that the Samsung is just as fast on my Sensation as the Patriot, which is fine. I never had a problem with speed. Lets see how long this one lasts, though.