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motorola xoom,asus transformer or acer tab?

I can buy either of these three on craigslist but which one should I get?
asus 32gb price $425
xoom 32gb price $400
acer 16gb price $350
so why should I pick this tablet and why? also Im planing on rooting so which would be easy to root?

It depends on your wants and needs. Just look up the available accessories for each. Personally I'd get the asus. If i could trade the xoom for it I would. Because for me, the keyboard attachment is something that could highly benefit me.

Xoom easy as pie to root
The xoom is a "Google Expirence Device".
If you dont want above then choose another tablet.

Kippui said:
Xoom easy as pie to root
The xoom is a "Google Expirence Device".
If you dont want above then choose another tablet.
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ok that sounds fair only complain to the xoom the the back power buttom. seems like a weird place to put it. XD how do u like the power button?

optimaljam said:
ok that sounds fair only complain to the xoom the the back power buttom. seems like a weird place to put it. XD how do u like the power button?
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It is in a spot where it is not accidentally pressed. I personally think its in a ok spot. You get used to it after awhile.

I would keep my xoom for 2 main reasons: usb port on the tab and google experience device. Also to mention the build quality, but well, I understand people would prefer the screen/weight of the TF (keyboard dock is useless for me, I prefer my netbook for that)
I dont think the zero default tab is already available but my xoom is perfect for my needs

thdj said:
I would keep my xoom for 2 main reasons: usb port on the tab and google experience device. Also to mention the build quality, but well, I understand people would prefer the screen/weight of the TF (keyboard dock is useless for me, I prefer my netbook for that)
I dont think the zero default tab is already available but my xoom is perfect for my needs
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alright then well I have my money and I will get the xoom today so whats the best rom for this device? can't wait to get this baby in today!

optimaljam said:
alright then well I have my money and I will get the xoom today so whats the best rom for this device? can't wait to get this baby in today!
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Good choice It's really an 'all in one' tab (meaning connections are on the tab itself) compared to the other ones (Galaxy Tab, Asus). Just the Acer/Toshiba comes close to it in term of connectivity.
Right now I'm just using the Tiamat 1.4.4 (no overclock) which perfectly fits my needs (USB host via usb OTG cable for usb stick/external hdd,camcorder,camera etc..), VPN connections (IPSec to my office Cisco device).
I'm about to test soon the newly Team Tiamat Xoom 1.1 which seems to be very promising
Devs are doing a wonderful job on this tab ! They really break any limitations it comes with.

thdj said:
Good choice It's really an 'all in one' tab (meaning connections are on the tab itself) compared to the other ones (Galaxy Tab, Asus). Just the Acer/Toshiba comes close to it in term of connectivity.
Right now I'm just using the Tiamat 1.4.4 (no overclock) which perfectly fits my needs (USB host via usb OTG cable for usb stick/external hdd,camcorder,camera etc..), VPN connections (IPSec to my office Cisco device).
I'm about to test soon the newly Team Tiamat Xoom 1.1 which seems to be very promising
Devs are doing a wonderful job on this tab ! They really break any limitations it comes with.
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sweet but im really having a hard time to root this bad boy can anyone help is there a video thats detailed and tells u every step?

just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078019
its really easy

thdj said:
just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078019
its really easy
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idk it was really hard to me so many steps and so many links before u root. XP
I went to the xoom forums and found an easier guide but im rooted and im happy with it. so what kind of things can i do with root?

optimaljam said:
idk it was really hard to me so many steps and so many links before u root. XP
I went to the xoom forums and found an easier guide but im rooted and im happy with it. so what kind of things can i do with root?
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Basically, root allows you to customize your Xoom. I've installed custom kernels and ROM (all Tiamat version), I've changed my boot animation and my fonts, with the custom kernel/ROM I can overclock the cpu which gives more speed for various apps, and so on. You can do themes and use apps that require root, to really take control of your Xoom. For me it's the only way to go.

okantomi said:
Basically, root allows you to customize your Xoom. I've installed custom kernels and ROM (all Tiamat version), I've changed my boot animation and my fonts, with the custom kernel/ROM I can overclock the cpu which gives more speed for various apps, and so on. You can do themes and use apps that require root, to really take control of your Xoom. For me it's the only way to go.
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ok I have tiamat on mine and I want to over clock but I want to know that best settings for it, when I over clock at 1.7 it reboots alot so how do i make it not reboot so much. i have setcpu and driod overclock app. and what type of apps use root? also i have flash with hulu but is there one that plays netflixs?

Where are the Kernels

I know there is a lot more development for the HTC phones I've previously owned, but where the heck are kernels on this damn thread? Most of the ones i'm finding are in "All-in-one" packages.
Can someone point me to any threads that are just standalone kernels? Otherwise, a recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
Specifically, I'm looking for a kernel that works with WiFi tether. I've tried every app, changed all the apppropriate settings, and nothing works.

slapshot591 said:
I know there is a lot more development for the HTC phones I've previously owned, but where the heck are kernels on this damn thread? Most of the ones i'm finding are in "All-in-one" packages.
Can someone point me to any threads that are just standalone kernels? Otherwise, a recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
Specifically, I'm looking for a kernel that works with WiFi tether. I've tried every app, changed all the apppropriate settings, and nothing works.
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Rootzwiki bro..http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3426-kernel-gb-imoseyon-kernel-stock-repacked-v400-11611/
edit:also this http://rootzwiki.com/topic/137-kernel01-15-12peanutbutta-jelly-time/

jager420 said:
Rootzwiki bro..http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3426-kernel-gb-imoseyon-kernel-stock-repacked-v400-11611/
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Thanks for that. Unfortunately, his kernels don't support wifi-tether. Any tether app I attempt to load with the imoseyon 4.0.0 kernel, tethering tells me

Wow, aren't we demanding...
As I see it, you can run Imnuts kernel. You can run Imoseyon 4.0 kernel. You can run stock kernel and root it.
You can run Froyo if you want with its respective kernels.
I'm certain WiFi tether works on all the GB and likely most of the Froyo kernels (I tried all the Froyo kernels to my knowledge.) There are some active threads regarding Wifi tether in QandA as well as General.
My recommendation is to try stock deodexed/debloated EP4D with IMO 4.0 kernel or run Tweakstock with IMO 4.0 kernel. I think its a great kernel.
I'm sure that Infinity with Infinity kernel is pretty sweet too, I ran an earlier release of it.
The development for this phone is actually pretty good considering. There aren't too many options, but at least the options we do have are great, especially considering the hurdles that developers have had to cross to get it where we are now.
I can thank this phone for making me dive deeper into learning about Android than I otherwise would have if I had a phone that was easier to mod.
One its set up right, I prefer this phone over any other phone that is available today (on any carrier.)
SAMOLED+, Wolfson DAC, 4G, anyone?

slapshot591 said:
Thanks for that. Unfortunately, his kernels don't support wifi-tether. Any tether app I attempt to load with the imoseyon 4.0.0 kernel, tethering tells me
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Try this, go to this site:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
click on the downloads tab and choose one of your choice, i tried the new versions and they did not work for me, wifi did not work after turning it off, so i use an older one:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/detail?name=wifi_tether_v3_0-pre12.apk&can=1&q=
now install it,
once installed, open it, press the menu key then choose Settings and then go to the option "Change Device-Profile"
I've tried the "Samsung Captivate" and the "Samsung Epic 4G" options and they work i believe that the "Samsung Galaxy S" and the Samsung Fascinate" work as well.
Then go back and go to the option that says "Change Setup-Method" and choose "Softap for Samsung (master)"
the rest of the settings is up to you, i believe that there are certain forms of security protocols not supported but you do have access control that allows you to choose who you allow to connect through your phone
hope this helps
This has been supported by all kernels ive tried so far including stock, you just need root access
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slapshot591 said:
I know there is a lot more development for the HTC phones I've previously owned, but where the heck are kernels on this damn thread? Most of the ones i'm finding are in "All-in-one" packages.
Can someone point me to any threads that are just standalone kernels? Otherwise, a recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
Specifically, I'm looking for a kernel that works with WiFi tether. I've tried every app, changed all the apppropriate settings, and nothing works.
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Starting with Gingerbread, Verizon has blocked the ability of 3rd party apps to enable the stock wifi tethering app as you could with froyo, now you HAVE TO use other tethering apps such as the one i posted earlier
the one posted allows the phone to act as an AP(Access Point), other apps such as barnacle(available in the market) can only do ad-hoc or peer-to-peer sharing, this is sometimes not supported by some devices such as Xbox 360, and the Nintendo 3DS

xdadevnube said:
One its set up right, I prefer this phone over any other phone that is available today (on any carrier.)
SAMOLED+, Wolfson DAC, 4G, anyone?
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+100 to the rest of your post but this part is the essence of why I love this device. One additional thing is that this phone's camera performance is unsurpassed by any other phone I've seen. Others are blown away by the quality. With that said, I haven't messed with an nokia n8/n9, but I wouldn't want to daily those devices anyway so that's a moot point.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk

You could also pay for tethering, then you shouldn't have any problems...

imnuts said:
You could also pay for tethering, then you shouldn't have any problems...
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Hahaha very true XD

QUOTE=ferny_dx
This has been supported by all kernels ive tried so far including stock, you just need root access.
This is very true!!. If having issue with wifi tet., just reflash your Image and try again. Sometime flashing Rom+Kernel too much without proper wiping can cause residual and corruption.

I know I'm some months late here but I wanted to thank you all for the input provided. I ended up using an older WiFi tethering app. This was for a coworker's phone, so that's why my question sounded so rushed/demading. Just picked up a Galaxy Note

Xoom ICS & Cisco Access Points

This thread is only for people running a Cisco Access point, preferably a Aironet 1200.
I currently have the 3g/4g version, and this behavior seems exist on all ICS builds I've tried.
I started a thread on Motorola's forums here.
I have 35/35 at home, and on pre-ics builds I get about 25/25 on my xoom. With ICS builds however my download is about 400kb-1200mbits. With upload being 25mbits. So it seems to only be on the downlink where the issues exist.
I've tried building it from source, I've tried other roms, everything that is ICS is slow download which makes streaming terrible.
My Nexus S running ICS does not have this issue so it seems something specific to ICS and the XOOM.
Anyone running the same sort of equipment as me, and running into the same problem?
Thanks

I got a Xoom on stock ics, and I have a bunch of aironet 1231g and 1242ag aps at work. I could try some stuff out if I knew what you meant by the 35/35 or 25/25 stuff, I probably wouldn't want to change my xoom that much with roms or anything (I just rebuilt it tonight to see if it fixed some slowness I was seeing after the ota to ics) but could test on stock ics, just tell me how your testing it... if it makes a difference the aps are all light weight aps managed by WLCs. I could probably snag a 1242 ( and maybe a 1231 if I can find a spare one) and dumb it down with autonomous image if that is more how you are rolling, but it might take me a couple of days...
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I'm running
Cisco IOS Software, C1250 Software (C1250-K9W7-M), Version 12.4(25d)JA, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
What I mean by 35/35 is thats what my internet is at home. But any speed test will show the issue if it is a cisco issue. You'll see that download is terrible, and upload is normal.

Im still not sure what 35/35 means, i've never seen any metrics for throughput / network performance displayed this way...
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35mbits over 35mbits.
I have a symetrical fiber connection that gives me somewhere between 35-45mbit download, and 35-40mbit upload.

We found a solution on the other thread. It appears that the new broadcom drivers are now 802.11 certified and there appears the be a bug that causes 802.11 draft APs achieve data decent data rates.
So here are the 3 fixes.
1. Buy a new AP
2. Disable you're mcs rates and lose 802.11n
3. Pray that motorola fixes it.
I'm currently running with 2. Shopping around with 1. Oh and have no doubt in my mind that 3 is a pipe dream.

Any Doubleshot ROMS have USB Host Support?

Just wondering. Waiting to really do some fun stuff with this fun if/when we gain that capability. Does anyone know if any of our roms have it?

Bulletproof doesn't yet but I was around and very closely following that develop from nothing to something on the Nook Color and have at least some of the project files from playing along way back when.
It's on the short list when I get the chance to start working on the ROM again, because I plan to use that as a band-aid for the PS3 controller while working on fixing the BT issue around that in Sense.
It would also be nice to be able to plug in and use my handful of flash drives while out and about using the compact package the doubleshot is instead of having to rely on something as large as the tablet as the best I got.
Right now there are other issues to work out on the device first as far as my dev time is allocated, and I can't speak for any other dev's work, but I am curious as well to know if anyone else is spending time on this.
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Thanks Blue "The Reason I Still Have My Doubleshot" 6IX. I am looking forward to the day this arrives. Been in the NC forum salivating over USB host stuff. It's more than a bit for my skill level at this point but fascinating! I'm going to mainly be utilizing DSLR Controller.
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Blue6IX said:
Right now there are other issues to work out on the device first as far as my dev time is allocated, and I can't speak for any other dev's work, but I am curious as well to know if anyone else is spending time on this.
Sent from a digital distance.
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Well I'm so glad you have a plan
Just a side question for you Blue: IF we do get a OTA update from T-Mobile or HTC and it is ICS...would you rebase to that and start developing for ICS?
Because I see you are trying hard to make the stock ROM all that it can be; but if we get a OTA ICS would you switch your attention to making that 'all that it can be?'
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!

Blue6IX said:
Bulletproof doesn't yet but I was around and very closely following that develop from nothing to something on the Nook Color and have at least some of the project files from playing along way back when.
It's on the short list when I get the chance to start working on the ROM again, because I plan to use that as a band-aid for the PS3 controller while working on fixing the BT issue around that in Sense.
It would also be nice to be able to plug in and use my handful of flash drives while out and about using the compact package the doubleshot is instead of having to rely on something as large as the tablet as the best I got.
Right now there are other issues to work out on the device first as far as my dev time is allocated, and I can't speak for any other dev's work, but I am curious as well to know if anyone else is spending time on this.
Sent from a digital distance.
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whaddya mean ps3 controller? is my doubleshot going to finally work on a ps3? O.O and what is usb host support exactly anyways and what can it be used to do ?

Appreciate the kind words _atlien_
@CoNsPiRiSiZe :
If HTC releases an official ICS ROM with corresponding kernel source, i'd jump on that pretty exclusively in an instant without a backward thought.
The only kernel source we have is 2.6.35.10 which corresponds to the 1.28.531.9 / .10 software version. This is really the limiter on my decision for what to work with.
Being as this is my first Android phone, I don't really know enough yet about how it works to be comfortable writing my own source for a kernel (basically) from scratch like tbalden and others are doing, so starting with a working and official source is necessary at this point in my education so I can make progress instead of a mess.
I imagine by the time I eventually move on to another device I'll know enough to just do what I want. Not having prior experience with this stuff is a bit frustrating sometimes because I do really want to play with ICS and the latest and greatest Google is providing us. Intentionally ignoring it sucks, but i'd rather make progress and not problems, hence this is my pennance for not getting a smart phone before this device launched.
I'd rather get a solid education then a whole lot of scattered knowledge if possible, my aim is for being involved with Android for a long time to come so having the patience and restraint to build a solid base of knowledge on how it works will serve me well in the future, even if it forces me to work with yesterday's software now.
Think of it like learning to drive a stickshift on a $200 beater P.O.S. instead of in a lamborghini - you could do it either way but one method makes more sense then the other.
The other thing, though, is the balance of trying to do what would most benefit the whole doubleshot user base the most instead of just the people on my ROM or whatever, so something like working on and posting details about progress on S-OFF trumps it all because that is the single most important issue I can help with I think. Even if I don't get it, maybe my notes and discoveries will help someone else solve it who has a better understanding or more experience with that kind of stuff.
Both of my devices were S-OFF and I had to go out of my way to learn how to put one S-ON again to work on the problem, I could have just ignored it because it didn't affect me but i'd rather try to help everyone, at any cost, then just serve my own selfish desires.
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The question still remains, though, is anyone else working on USB host / OTG cable support?
Sent from a digital distance.

Some_dude36 said:
whaddya mean ps3 controller? is my doubleshot going to finally work on a ps3? O.O and what is usb host support exactly anyways and what can it be used to do ?
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PS3 controllers cannot connect to and be used by HTC Sense devices, the bluetooth software HTC went with prevents it. If you flash an AOSP ROM you can use one, though, so it's not that it doesn't work but that HTC doesn't want to let us. (Technically broadcomm, but their name isn't printed on the device)
USB host support means that if you get a micro-usb to female USB cable or an adapter you could plug in flash drives, portable hard drives or even other devices to this phone directly.
Since I can get usb cables and adapters at the dollar store now, they aren't hard to come by.
Being able to plug in a flash drive, or install linux on the doubleshot and use it to run the android sdk and program other phones or android devices by plugging it in to this one would be nice - I can install linux on my nook color and then plug this phone into it directly and run fastboot commands while I'm sitting on the bus or something without a bulky laptop - pretty sweet, huh?
No reason we can't do it with this nice, tiny, portable android powehouse other then someone hasn't sat down to take the time and make it happen.
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I thought the cable used for the ps3 was for charging only and still sends signal via bluetooth. I knoww that's how the xbox works with it's plug and play kit.
Sent from my HTC myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium

ps3 controllers
PS3 controllers communicate with either USB or bluetooth. He was refering to using the bluetooth part with our phones and "sixaxis controller" app to pair them together.

Any new word on this?
I know tbalden an kornyone have put together a customized kernel for the CM9 alpha releases in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644084
I haven't seen any mention of USB host mode, but I don't have enough posts on xda to ask if that's even a consideration.

my aokp rom has customizable usb host support. idk if cm does

Man, I'd love to see OTG in Miktouch or one of the Sense ICS ROMs.

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UPDATED 10-27-2012 (r7b)
ROM
This is the stable version of CyanogenMod 9.1 with some modifications:
- Battery drain bug fixed
- Remote Wipe hack/exploit patched (see here)
- Includes modified kernel (see next section)
Stable Kernel
- Linux Kernel 3.0.48
- Kernel debugging disabled to improve performance]
- USB Fast Charge - credit to yank555-lu and xmc-wildchild22
- Undervolting tweaks - credit to xmc-wildchild22
- Overclocked GPU - credit to xmc-wildchild22
- Snapdragon optimizations - credit to xmc-wildchild22
- Inverted front facing camera mirroring issue [r3] (CyanogenMod)
- bluetooth deep sleep issue fixed (lpm -- credit to Agrabren) - modified in [r5] to (hopefully) reduce wifi drain issues
- ondemandx governor (existz [email protected])
- lulzactive, lulzactiveq, and hotplug governors (thanks to SilverL for the pull request)
- IO Schedulers: noopp, deadline, cfq, sio, vr
- USB OTG support (SebastianFM)
- Camera flash enabled down to 5% battery [r7]
- zsmalloc from kernel 3.5 (godmachine81) [r7]
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Too bad it isn't a Sense ROM. Hopefully, someone will be able to incorporate it into one soon. I just don't like CM or AOKP at all.

[Q] Latest Stable Rom? [Galaxy S Relay 4G]

Hey guys,
With the communities help, I've rooted my phone, and have begun experimenting with roms, I'm pretty excited about all this -- but so far, I haven't found one yet that meets my needs.
The only roms I could even find are the ones linked to by this thread. But I can't comment there because I'm an uber-n00b. **** yeah, n00b status! XD
So here's some of the issues I'm having, maybe someone can point me in the right direction:
I'm using CWM to flash roms, and I can't flash the "Debloated Jelly Bean stock image" linked to in that thread, CWM tells me there's an error in the zip halfway through. Though if I do an "unzip -test" on it from the command line, it verifies okay -- so I'm guessing the package is either borked, or intended to be used differently than how I'm trying to use it.
That being said, I've had great success flashing the unofficial, and experimental Cyanogen 10.1s -- but none of them that I have tested have all of the features I want working. Is there a recommended version? The features I want are pretty basic things:
First and foremost: Wi-Fi tethering (I'd pay for it if T-mobile had an option for it, but they don't -- not on unlimited anyway -- and I always hit my data-cap even without tethering, if I went on a non-unlimited plan, it would cost me $20/more a month and for about the last 10-15 days of each month I'd be stuck on EDGE/2G -- to me, that's unacceptable.)
Being able to connect to Wi-Fi networks (obviously not at the same time as tethering, but I expect both to work).
GPS
Bluetooth!! (The latest "stable" the Unofficial 13-03-09 does not appear to be able to connect to my headset.)
The Stock Clock: Alarms App (Also seems to be broken in the 13-03-09 release.)
And obviously: Calling, Texting, Camera, Flashlight
Basic Battery Stuff (Latest "stable" and nightlies both have issues with determining if the battery charger is connected or not, reboot seems to fix it most of the time).
The one thing I don't use (that I know about) on my phone is NFC. I like the idea of NFC, especially to pay for things, I just have never bothered to **** with it to set it up.
So, Is there a list of the nightlies and like some quick indicators that say which key features are working or not? If not, I might be willing to set one up for the most recent ones (at least until I find one that has features that I want all working more or less). If this already exists though, it would be a great time saver. If not, is anyone willing to help me set this up? The testing will go a lot better with >1 person testing things.
I figure stock does almost everything I need except tethering, but I can't figure out how to get the debloated stock rom on, and installing the tethering fix for regular stock (or Cyanogen for that matter) just makes the phone not boot.
Thanks for reading, any thoughts / comments -- and even moreso: answers -- are greatly appreciated. [And hopefully, none of the above is taken as criticism to anyone, as it's not meant that way, clearly, I'm a little frustrated, but I'm also very much excited to be finally modding my phone, and it wouldn't be possible without all the community support that has gone into this development!]

DERP
OH MAN! I just flashed the MC5 modem; BLUETOOTH WORKS NOW ON THE UNOFFICIAL 2013-03-09 RELEASE!
I haven't tested everything yet, but pretty much everything seems to be working now it seems!!! :good::good::fingers-crossed::good::good:
Man, I wish this was all in a guide somewhere so that I wouldn't have to stumble around in the dark like this. :silly: