[Q] SipDroid/CSipSimple and Google Voice Abroad - General Questions and Answers

I'm running Cyanogen 7.0.3 and I'm still a n00b regarding SIP. I'd like to use my WiFi and 3G to make calls using my GV number, and since I'm in Turkey, I want to be able to make free calls to the US, as well as receive calls on my GV number.
Is there a guide to set this up? I made a PBXes account, but not sure how to proceed...

mxbndr said:
I'm running Cyanogen 7.0.3 and I'm still a n00b regarding SIP. I'd like to use my WiFi and 3G to make calls using my GV number, and since I'm in Turkey, I want to be able to make free calls to the US, as well as receive calls on my GV number.
Is there a guide to set this up? I made a PBXes account, but not sure how to proceed...
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Have you figured it out yet? I can give you a few pointers if not...

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[REQ][APP] Answer Machine

hi, everyone. Im searching for a soft that works like an answer machine, in certain numbers of rings, take call, play a greeting, and then record the msg.
i´m searching for it for a long time and cant find anything like it.
Sorry but my english and thanks!
You mean voicemail?
sitlet said:
You mean voicemail?
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My guess is yes but the OP should look into signing up for Google Voice which will do exactly what he wants PLUS send him a text with a transcription of the message and allow him to play back the voice message on his phone!
yes voicemail
yes i mean voicemail. But google voice dont use a diferente phone number that mine? or i m wrong?
regards
ok, i´m wrong, but im from argentina and cant get a portable number for google voice, then i need an answer machine / voicemail soft. jeje
I would love this too!
Please don't mention Google Voice. This is a request for a local app.
You can forward your voicemail to your GV number while keeping your number. So when someone calls you and it goes to voicemail they get sent to your GV number, quite useful
Mhhh... remember im from argentina, forward to gv charge an international call? Or not?
And if i would check msgskeys (from gv) i need internet connection, need i?
Clode said:
Mhhh... remember im from argentina, forward to gv charge an international call? Or not?
And if i would check msgskeys (from gv) i need internet connection, need i?
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You are correct, currently only the US and Canada get to make domestic calls free. Argentina will be an international charge (until they open it up to everyone which is bound to happen at some point). This doesn't mean you can't use it for strictly a voicemail forward though. I'm 85% sure that voice mail forwarding is a free service.
As far as being online goes, your phone should always be online if you have 3G. You can't check your voice mails on any phone in the world without cell phone reception, the same is the case here.
The other popular one is youmail, but it only works with US carriers as well, so I think you're best be is GV, but you'll need to do some research on the voice mail forwarding policy.
Yes, im always online, i can check gv in anytime, but forward voicemail from my carrier involves international costs.
The soft i need is not so strange and may be easyer to use.
Well i will search a little more.
Thanks anyway!!
Sorry I have to ask, but does Argentina not have voicemail?
Yes, but paid and without much control of it, like around the world.
Hi, I live in Australia and same thing here. I have to pay for my voicemail retreivals by the minute which is very annoying as i get alot for work. At the moment im in a contract so cant shop around for a better plan and having a local app on my device for voicemail would be awesome.
Such an app would be awesome! Since Google Voice also do not work in Singapore.

[Q] Making calls using Google voice

Hello everyone,
I am using a Samsung Captivate with MIUI ROM 2.3.5(1.10.7) and really like it. Congratulations to the developers.
I have google voice installed and its configuration gives an option to make calls from GV, but when I chose 'Ask me everytime' and make a call, it would not give me the option to choose and always use AT&T and not GV. Is there anything I am missing? Have anyone else tried this and got it working?
Thanks
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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are you sure you've assigned yourself a phone number via google voice online? the default phone number google assigns you only works for outgoing browser based calls. you have to change it to unlock texting and get full calling capabilities
Thanks for your replies.
Yes, I have a google assigned number. I can use it to send and receive texts. Problem is with making voice calls.
For voice mail also, I am using the same GV number and it works. Also the calls to my GV number get forwarded to the mobile. All these works except outbound calls from my mobile made using GV. It is going out through GSM and not thru data.
Thanks again
Hi,
I just updated with the latest ROM released today. GV works as expected now.
Thanks

[Q] Call out with Google Voice

I looked around but couldn't find a thread on this problem.
This is my first Android phone (AT&T version), previously I had a 3GS, and I'm having trouble getting Google Voice sorted. I set up voicemail forwarding as the two thread here suggest, but I can't seem to get calling out working right. If I go into the GV app I can call people who've called me/are starred/left messages etc and it will call with my GV number, but I can't call anyone else with that number. I think I have the phone set to use GV for all calls, but it still uses my cell number if I use the phone dialer. Is there a way to/can I set it up so calls I make come from the GV number?
With the 3GS I just used the GV app for everything and that worked since my calls came from the right number, but as far as I can tell I need to use the phone app to call out with this?
Thanks.
Should be able to change this in the settings:
Settings -> Making Calls
I have mine set up to ask me every time I make a call.
Sounds like yours might be 'Do not use Google Voice to make any calls'
Try groove IP app from market.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.0.0.
I feel like the least technologically savvy person in the world, but I re-installed the app, restarted, and now it seems to be working.
It had been set to use google voice for all calls, but for whatever reason calls were not coming through that way.
To follow that up. Are texts managed the same way, or do I need to open the GV app to send them?
Use the GV app for texts via GV. Or you can use any other SMS app with the GV-provided phone numbers that it assigns to people that call/text you. As an example, via GV you would normally see a text from Person. If you looked in Messages or Go SMS, it would be Person - +1XXX-XXX-XXX - text. If you use that number to text Person, they will receive it as if it came from your GV #, not your cell #.
Thanks, I'm all sorted out.

[Q] Reliable VoIP over 4G/LTE

Hello all. I created this thread to get ideas and solutions to a big problem that I am having.
I need to have RELIABLE VoIP over 4G/LTE. By reliable, I mean I will ALWAYS receive my call, and I don't have any difficulties MAKING my calls (like the registration dropping without notice). As I also need SMS across the same number that I am using, the only solution I have found is Google Voice, so that has to be integrated as well.
I think I have tried just about every solution out there to utilize SIP with GV. Either my settings suck on every app I've tried, the app drains power like no tomorrow, or the connection says it's there, but I don't receive my calls. There are only two methods I have found that work great with GV.
1) GrooveIP works great, but only when I first turn it on and sign in, and don't turn off the screen. Once the phone tries to sleep once, my reliability goes way down. In addition, GroovIP doesn't work so well when on the move. Says it is logged in, but doesn't actually work until logged out and back in again.
2) The GV app. This work perfectly, every time, and probably because by its nature it doesn't use SIP at all. The CAVEAT here is, it only intercepts an outgoing "mobile" call. If all you have is a data plan, it won't work.
I want (2) from above to work. I can get a reliable SIP connection from my paid SIP provider, Anveo. What I need is a way to get Android to think my SIP connection IS my mobile connection, so that the GV app will intercept it and call my incoming SIP trunk so that I can make the call.
Any solutions to this that anyone knows of?
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You can use CSipSimple + PBXes.org as a 3rd option. Read this thread for some good information!
The reason for the poorer performance when the screen is off is because Android lowers the wifi power level when in sleep mode to prolong battery, which makes for worse SIP performance. This is also discussed in the thread I linked.
I would like to note here, I do not use WiFi. My setup is strictly high-speed 4G+LTE on AT&T. My ping times are typically very low and data is at least 3 Mbps. That should be plenty to get WiFi like quality, and the phone does not power down the cellular radio (at least, I've never heard of it).
Unfortunately, as far as I can make it work, CSIPsimple can not substitute as a "mobile' network, and therefore make use of the GVoice bridging.
Same situation here with GrooveIP. I am on Prism phone with T-Mobile (don't actually ever get 4G (even though both, the phone and the plan are advertized as 4G, and people right next to me do get 4G from T-mobile), but get stable 3G.
I also noticed it has something to do with Wi-Fi. I think GrooveIP actually prefers Wifi over data connection, because it would be happily green, until I walk into a wifi area and then it goes red and back to green. I didn't know that WiFi gets powered down during sleep. Since it does, then there is no reason keeping in on. Thank you for the tip!
I will have it strictly on data tomorrow (WiFi off), and see if GrooveIP ever disconnects.
Another weird thing about GrooveIP is that when you use it to call you t-mobile message box, the t-mobile system is not able to read your numerical commands, as if it was missing a random number. Say your pin is 1234, then it will "hear" 123, or 234, or 134 and so on.
But, as far as my own search, this is the only app that allows both incoming and outgoing calls and doesn't trigger minutes count as GV does.
OK, today, I changed some more options in GrooveIP, those having to do with GrooveIP staying on, including having my wifi off all day.
Results are negative, still goes red from time to time, but much less often.
Further options include activating the auto renew option (timed resign-on every hour or so).
I believe this should be possible to do.
bluespire said:
What I need is a way to get Android to think my SIP connection IS my mobile connection, so that the GV app will intercept it and call my incoming SIP trunk so that I can make the call.
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Not 100% sure what you meant by GV app intercepting SIP connection.
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Not 100% sure what you meant by GV app intercepting SIP connection.
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The GV app can intercept a call, and then alters the call log DB and some other things. It sends, via data, a request to GV to have GV bridge the call, thereby using the celluar network to make the call. As I understand, GV calls the number I want using my GV #, then GV calls my cell, bridging the call. Unfortunately, GV will ONLY intercept a call made using the "mobile" connection, and won't intercept my SIP (or "internet") calls.
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As I understand, GV calls the number I want using my GV #, then GV calls my cell, bridging the call.
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I understand bridging is how Google voice website works. Google will call you and then connect to the recipient. But I doubt that's how the android gv app works.
Even with GV app, the phone is initiating the call. All android gv app does is to spoof the caller id (CID) as gv number. So the recipient sees your GV number not the mobile number.
I'm still confused what you are trying to do. Because in the OP, you wrote
"I need to have RELIABLE VoIP over 4G/LTE"
"I can get a reliable SIP connection from my paid SIP provider, Anveo." These 2 are contradictory.
Are you trying to display your GV number as CID when making internet calls? If so, you have 3 options.
1. Ask whether Anveo (whoever your VSP) can spoof your CID. Some allow this.
2. Use pbxes and spoof CID as GV number.
3. Use pbxes with gtalk trunk.
Hope this helps.
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acegolfer said:
I understand bridging is how Google voice website works. Google will call you and then connect to the recipient. But I doubt that's how the android gv app works.
Even with GV app, the phone is initiating the call. All android gv app does is to spoof the caller id (CID) as gv number. So the recipient sees your GV number not the mobile number.
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I think you are correct in that my phone makes the call. However, when I look at my bill, I am calling a few specific numbers. Which means GV is still bridging the call. What the APP does is tell GV to expect my call, and then route me to my actual caller. The GV app then spoofs/alters my call log.
I'm still confused what you are trying to do. Because in the OP, you wrote
"I need to have RELIABLE VoIP over 4G/LTE"
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I meant this is my goal.
"I can get a reliable SIP connection from my paid SIP provider, Anveo." These 2 are contradictory.
Are you trying to display your GV number as CID when making internet calls? If so, you have 3 options.
1. Ask whether Anveo (whoever your VSP) can spoof your CID. Some allow this.
2. Use pbxes and spoof CID as GV number.
3. Use pbxes with gtalk trunk.
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For 1) I'll have to check into this.
For 2) Am I using pbxes for only this purpose? Or am I routing my call via them? So far, I have ONLY been able to get reliable SIP via Anveo. I've tried a number of carriers.
For 3) I tried this. I used SIP Sorcery to bridge IPKall with GVoice. Strangely, the only time I got it to work was in India. Since I got back to the states it hasn't worked, and nothing I do seems to get it to work right. I consider myself very capable at troubleshooting these problems. Therefore, I consider it unreliable. Also, GVoice only allows 1 codec, which from my reading is NOT the best for 4G use.
bluespire said:
For 2) Am I using pbxes for only this purpose? Or am I routing my call via them? So far, I have ONLY been able to get reliable SIP via Anveo. I've tried a number of carriers.
For 3) I tried this. I used SIP Sorcery to bridge IPKall with GVoice. Strangely, the only time I got it to work was in India. Since I got back to the states it hasn't worked, and nothing I do seems to get it to work right. I consider myself very capable at troubleshooting these problems. Therefore, I consider it unreliable. Also, GVoice only allows 1 codec, which from my reading is NOT the best for 4G use.
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2. Pbxes is not a VoIP provider. It's a system to manage your VoIP accounts. You can link your reliable anveo within pbxes and have pbxes initiate the call with your gv number showing as cid. You don't need to route the incoming calls.
3. I have used sipsorcery in the past, which is known for its flaky behavior. I agree its completely unreliable. But pbxes with gtalk trunk has been rock solid for me.
If you go to nexus 4 forum, I posted a method to make free VoIP calls using ilbc codec, which is the best codec for mobile data connection. My call quality is often better than tmobile's gsm calls.
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acegolfer said:
2. Pbxes is not a VoIP provider. It's a system to manage your VoIP accounts. You can link your reliable anveo within pbxes and have pbxes initiate the call with your gv number showing as cid. You don't need to route the incoming calls.
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I thought PBXes has a 1000 minute limit or something like that. Would I have all the same features as Sip Sorcery?
3. I have used sipsorcery in the past, which is known for its flaky behavior. I agree its completely unreliable. But pbxes with gtalk trunk has been rock solid for me.
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Good to know I am not the only one.
If you go to nexus 4 forum, I posted a method to make free VoIP calls using ilbc codec, which is the best codec for mobile data connection. My call quality is often better than tmobile's gsm calls.
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Could you post the link, please?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35701104
Not easy to do while on the phone.
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acegolfer said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35701104
Not easy to do while on the phone.
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Now, when you say "reliable", what caveats are there to that? For instance, have you noticed problems with the phone picking up the call? Ever bad audio, or one-way audio, etc. See here's the thing, I can cope with many problems, but I have to pass the WAD (wife acceptance factor). On top of that, I WANT it to be reliable enough to set up her phone with it. Since both will be on a well-covered AT&T LTE network with low population, the network should not be an issue. I get 4G at my house, but it's good signal. I get up the hill and I'm golden.
bluespire said:
Now, when you say "reliable", what caveats are there to that? For instance, have you noticed problems with the phone picking up the call? Ever bad audio, or one-way audio, etc. See here's the thing, I can cope with many problems, but I have to pass the WAD (wife acceptance factor). On top of that, I WANT it to be reliable enough to set up her phone with it. Since both will be on a well-covered AT&T LTE network with low population, the network should not be an issue. I get 4G at my house, but it's good signal. I get up the hill and I'm golden.
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I passed WAF. Good luck!
Most of your issues are answered on that thread.
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[Q] Google Voice and other VOIPs

I'm traveling to Costa Rica next month with our high school youth group on a mission trip. I currently have a Google Voice number for voicemail and things. Can I accept calls on that GV number when connected to WiFi? I've Googled but I can't find anything recent, or anything that answers my question simply. If GV can't do it, is there another one that can?
jessicahll said:
I'm traveling to Costa Rica next month with our high school youth group on a mission trip. I currently have a Google Voice number for voicemail and things. Can I accept calls on that GV number when connected to WiFi? I've Googled but I can't find anything recent, or anything that answers my question simply. If GV can't do it, is there another one that can?
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Yes, you can use your google voice number to make and receive calls over wifi. You will need an app to actually make and receive the calls, I recommend GrooveIP, although there are a few others. Install GrooveIP, it will use your Google Voice number to make and receive calls. Receiving calls can be a little touch and go. Also, I find that I get better voice quality by calling from google Talk inside Gmail on my laptop, but Google Voice with GrooveIP is workable.
I would recommend setting it up and testing it out before you leave the States.
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