[Q] No continuous autofocus in camcorder mode? - HTC Sensation

Reviews of the Sensation seem to imply that there is no continuous autofocus in camcorder mode... can someone with the phone confirm that?
would be a real shame!

From this spec comparison between SE Neo and HTC Sensation, it says:
"There are some attractive features which the Neo has and the Sensation doesn’t, notably video calling, continuous autofocus, video light and smile detection, but overall we feel the HTC is better equipped with its dual LED flash, image stabilisation and higher quality video capture."

Yeah, I've read that too.. but would be good if someone with a Sensation in hand could confirm it.
Having 1080p recording without the continuous autofocus is a joke.

This video shows autofocus and zoom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_DKoCL-DQg&feature=player_embedded
(notes say it was made with a prelim version, so final may vary)

The user guide for the sensation does mention in page 69 that after starting recording:
6. You can freely zoom in or out while recording video.
7. You can change focus to a different subject or area by just tapping it on the
Viewfinder screen.
Which implies that you can zoom while recording & that Focus does change.

omar302 said:
The user guide for the sensation does mention in page 69 that after starting recording:
6. You can freely zoom in or out while recording video.
7. You can change focus to a different subject or area by just tapping it on the
Viewfinder screen.
Which implies that you can zoom while recording & that Focus does change.
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Anyone confirm?
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Here's a posted video. Looks to me like everything is kept in focus at varying distances.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U70LGfTlsq4
Without the phone I can't confirm, but I've seen several vids and none show signs of losing focus when the distance to objects varies.

Look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZDcpggOHRc&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=SP9E838D931C71486D
After watching this video, we can conclude that the HTC Sensation's camera does sport continuous autofocus and/or tap-to-focus.
I guess it would be a whole lot easier if someone in possession of a HTC Sensation could've posted in this thread.

It's tap to focus. You tap the object on the screen that you want to focus on and it then focuses on that object for you.
Have tested it, but haven't uploaded it.

Some of the 1080p videos that I've taken with my Sensation have involved lots of panning around and objects sometimes being a lot closer than others, and when playing the video back on my PC screen everything is always sharply in focus.
"Tap to focus" is like a manual override of autofocus. For example: If the camera has focused on somebody in the foreground, but you actually want the background to be in focus, or vice versa.

I jsut had a play around with it on my Sensation. While panning around with the viewfinder it does auto focus. While actually recording video it does not, but refocuses if you touch the screen. I'll get a video done showing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JjH6Uln1Xo
Youtube really kills the framerate... anywhere else I could upload that would be better? As you can see, it does not automatically refocus. When you do touch the screen it refocuses quickly though.
Edit: This should do - Dropbox link to video file

Lazzzara said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JjH6Uln1Xo
Youtube really kills the framerate... anywhere else I could upload that would be better? As you can see, it does not automatically refocus. When you do touch the screen it refocuses quickly though.
Edit: This should do - Dropbox link to video file
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It's goooood! Youtube really makes the videos look like sh*t...

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Sample photos?

I'm 75% certain I'm going to get this phone next month, does anyone have any sample photos from it? (JPS 3D)
All I've ever been able to find is 3D video and I've never been able to find sample 3D photos
can anyone help?
I've looked through this forum and cannot find any unless I've missed something
mmace said:
I'm 75% certain I'm going to get this phone next month, does anyone have any sample photos from it? (JPS 3D)
All I've ever been able to find is 3D video and I've never been able to find sample 3D photos
can anyone help?
I've looked through this forum and cannot find any unless I've missed something
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Nope,nothing 3d pictures on the web yet. Ask to the owners in the other threads
I have a few that I will upload to my dropbox then I will post the link..
Brilliant, thank you
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14815214/IMG001.jps
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14815214/IMG002.jps
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14815214/IMG003.jps
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14815214/IMG004.jps
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14815214/IMG005.jps
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14815214/IMG006.jps
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14815214/IMG007.jps
Would you also be able to upload some 2D pictures at 5mp.
really thank u man - and please some 2D pictures
Hmmm, the stereo seperation seems as bad as I had heard it was - much less than the 3DS. I wonder if forcing the seperation in software can help enough to give decent depth to the photos as viewing them on my 3DS its really subtle and seems to strain my eyes more than usual. Lets hope partly its due to viewing them so low resolution compared to their native.
Why did they put the cameras so close together?
dinoric81 said:
Would you also be able to upload some 2D pictures at 5mp.
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Rename the files to .jpg instead of .jps and view them in any image viewer you have installed.
It is simply 2 jpeg images side by side, taking a separate 2D image should be exactly the same as the left image in the jps stereo pair.
Alex Atkin UK said:
Hmmm, the stereo seperation seems as bad as I had heard it was - much less than the 3DS. I wonder if forcing the seperation in software can help enough to give decent depth to the photos as viewing them on my 3DS its really subtle and seems to strain my eyes more than usual. Lets hope partly its due to viewing them so low resolution compared to their native.
Why did they put the cameras so close together?
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Just looked at the sample images on a 50 inch plasma with 3d glasses. Separation is good.
Some of the images have issues since they were taken with a tilted angle which affects the depth effect, maybe this is the reason for some complaining about the separation.
Stereo photo maker has an auto aligment feature that corrects height difference between the left/image: http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stphmkr/
The problem is shown on the tree animation at:
http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stphmkr/help/multiple.htm
Cameras are close since the battery takes up half the phone size, it is a PCB design thing, maybe not enough space to have the battery in the middle. HTC Evo 3D has the same layout.
LG Optimus 3D
The image are awesome liked it.
Hey i would like to share LG optimus 3D specification/features of the phone
- 3D LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
- LG 3D User Interface
- Auto-rotate
- Gyro Sensor
- Touch-sensitive controls
-Dual 5 MP
- Pic Res: 2560x1920 pixels
- Stereoscopic photos and videos
- LED flash, autofocus, geo-tagging
- Video 1080p @ 24fps
- 3D Video 720p @ 30 fps
- Android OS
- Social Networking Integration
- YouTube, Google Talk, Gmail, Google Maps, Search etc.
- MP4/DivX/XviD/WMV Player
- 1080p (2D) / 720p (3D) Player
- HDMI Port
- SMS, MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
- HTML
- Stereo FM Radio with RDS
- Document Editor
Feature of LG optimus 3D.
Does anyone still have a copy of them?
I went away to France when he posted them, now I'm back they have been removed
i missed them also....

HTC Sense 3.0 Camera

I was testing out the HDR options for this and they do not seem to do much at all. There is a difference, but it is VERY minor. I took a shot without HDR, one with HDR, and then one using the free HDR app, and the HDR app simply blew the HTC HDR mode completely out of the water...
Has anyone else had any experience with this? Is there something I may be missing?
HDR always seemed like something better left to photo editing software to me (like photoshop). Phone camera filters always seem kind of lackluster, but then again, none of us are taking professional shots with a cell camera I assume
On topic though, I wouldn't doubt it being better. Sense stuff isn't exactly always perfection as far as software quality and HDR was probably just an afterthought tied into the camera so they could tick off a notch somewhere on some sheet for features.
Absolutely the same as my experience. I used HDR Camera from the market before this (free), and I really loved its results. When I installed the 3.0 Sense camera and saw the HDR setting, I was happy until I tried it. My theory is that it is NOT taking multiple pictures, but only doing an image adjustment --->> NOT the same thing. HDR Camera doesn't have the issues that some of you described. You do not have to be rock steady and my phone is plenty fast enough to take the three photos within about a second. The image settings are also adjustable (color, etc.).
On the other hand, the panorama mode in the Sense camera is Awesome!
yareally said:
HDR always seemed like something better left to photo editing software to me (like photoshop). Phone camera filters always seem kind of lackluster, but then again, none of us are taking professional shots with a cell camera I assume
On topic though, I wouldn't doubt it being better. Sense stuff isn't exactly always perfection as far as software quality and HDR was probably just an afterthought tied into the camera so they could tick off a notch somewhere on some sheet for features.
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Software cannot do what HDR does. HDR takes 2 pictures, adjusting the gain on the sensor between low and high. It combines the best of both images to gain detail in low light areas and avoid over exposure in high light areas. Software will not work after the fact because the extra information gained from low/high gain is not present. Unfortunately the HDR option is poorly implemented by HTC. If you try HDR on the Iphone, you can see a drastic difference.
Actually, I use Pro HDR on my Evo, and it takes fantastic pictures in true HDR. It is a touch slower than a pro camera, but it does actually meter the scene and adjust the camera's aperture accordingly. It then allows for adjustments between the composite image and allows for saving the final as well as the source images, meaning you can do further editing elsewhere. Outside of some cropping, I haven't had problems.
With that said, I would be curious to know what the deal is with Sense. What's interesting is if you put it in HDR mode, it shows the little icon in the top right with multiple images...like whoever designed it at least understood how true HDR *should* operate. Then, if you push and release it instead of the regular shutter button, it beeps and you hear the lens go, and the image focuses itself. So...idk. I don't see a noticeable effect in the regular images at all...

Recording video is zoomed in compared to taking a photo?

When i switch to video in the camera app the view is zoomed in compared to taking a photo. This is the minimum zoom level in the video mode but would be zoomed in a few times in photo mode.
Anyone else experiencing this and know how to fix it? I've had this issue with all the roms i've tried - ICS & GB.
It's really annoying having to stand far away from the thing I want to record
itsReggie said:
When i switch to video in the camera app the view is zoomed in compared to taking a photo. This is the minimum zoom level in the video mode but would be zoomed in a few times in photo mode.
Anyone else experiencing this and know how to fix it? I've had this issue with all the roms i've tried - ICS & GB.
It's really annoying having to stand far away from the thing I want to record
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yeah in video mode the image is little bit zoomed ( i would say 2x max) but that will not cause any trouble at all you can still take videos of near objects with ease...
BTW if you want your video quality to be quadrupled try this mod...the video quality is amazing im taking videos of my niece and they are absolutely godly when compared to crappy stock video
try the mod if you have custom rom installed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533238
It is very annoying and I find I have to move quite far back to record a video of something right infront of me, unlike just taking a photo.
Yeah i know about that mod and love it, it increased video & photo quality by 1000%

Camera questions (upgrading from Z5)

I have a few questions as I am considering upgrading from Z5 to XZ Premium.
1. Is 4K mode still distinct from other video modes? I recall reading somewhere that the XZ1 has 4k mode part of the canera app now but not sure if it was XZ1 or XZP. Also, are you able to tap and lock focus in 4K or any other mode? On the Z5, I can't tap-focus in 4K mode
2. Can video white balance be made constant? I've seen many videos of the XZ Premium and XZ1 where the white balance shifts in tone when the camera pans in different lighting conditions. The Z5 has this same problem and you can only adjust the colour tint but it will still automatically shift around. This is extremely annoying of you want to take serious video since white balance should not be set "auto", and other Android smartphones are able to have a constant white balance seting. I am only able to change video white balance in the 4K app. If not, is there a third-party app that is able to do this?
3. How reliable is the predictive burst capture of the XZP? Is there times when it does not trigger properly? From what I've read there's still no real burst mode on the XZP but hopefully Android Oreo will bring the XZ1's new burst function to the XZP. However I'm not banking on it because of how Sony treated the Z5 series (practically no updates to the camera despite software updates to 6.0, 7.0, 7.1 etc.)
4. Does touch capture focus on the tapped spot before it captures the image? After updating to 7.0 on the Z5 they made it so that touch capture just triggers the middle part of the image to be focused!
predictive capture is close to worthless on the xz p since its auto only. I can rarely get it to trigger when I want (trying to take pictures of kids).
4k mode is separate from the standard video mode on it.
Touch capture is focusing and then taking a photo where it is touched.
will have to look into the white balance
Are you able to touch focus or manual focus in video? It is frustrating that the camera hunts focus when filming something like fireworks, when other cameras have manual focus for video.
in 1080p it appears to track focus on what you tap, in 4k it is doing nothing when tapping.
well that's really disappointing. Did you take a look at the white balance settings for video yet?
There is no white balance settings in 1080p video, only in 4K.
Mine is doing great specially in capturing moving subjects no blur at all.
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Mangtas_666 said:
Mine is doing great specially in capturing moving subjects no blur at all.
Sent from my G8142 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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got some tips? getting my kids to be not blurry is def hit or miss. predictive captures almost never goes off.
admad said:
There is no white balance settings in 1080p video, only in 4K.
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thanks, now that's really disappointing. For the XZ1 they are merging the 4K modes but I'm concerned that means they will take away white balance altogether. Is there any third-party app that allows for manual white balance of video?

How do you change video frame rate to 60fps.

OK, now I feel like a newb but this is my first Pixel device and the Google camera seems simple enough but I can't find how to set my video framerate to 1080p 60fps. I have it on 1080p and the only options I can find are on the top bar with color temp and flash and all it gives me is Auto and 30fps. Auto seems to go anywhere between 120 and 30 fps, I can't figure out the logic behind how it chooses. I really just want to lock it to 60fps for 1080p. Can someone help me out?
Turn off video image stabilization?
[email protected], [email protected]/60/120fps, [email protected], [email protected] (gyro-EIS)
jamgam said:
Turn off video image stabilization?
[email protected], [email protected]/60/120fps, [email protected], [email protected] (gyro-EIS)
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I turned off IS and am still not seeing it, I tried 720p too and nothing but auto and 30fps. Open Camera and Filmic both give me 60fps.
I'm thinking anything over 30 fps is "slow motion" only. Still looking around myself b/c I'd love the 240 fps for videoing my golf swing
jamgam said:
I'm thinking anything over 30 fps is "slow motion" only. Still looking around myself b/c I'd love the 240 fps for videoing my golf swing
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The Pixel 2 camera has 240 in slow motion.
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Woah. This is a near deal breaker here. I can't seem to find 60fps on my $850 phone.
Update I found the place where you set the framerate, but unlike the Pixel 2 (which shows 30 and 60), the Pixel 3 only shows Auto or 30. W. T. F. This "auto" icon is located in the lower left when in video mode.
For what it's worth, I've gotten near the proper framerate with 3rd party apps. Both Open Camera (free) and Filmic Pro (paid) hit 59.667 on 60fps mode. The proper framerate is 59.94 (60,000/1001). Filmic Pro can do an exact even 60fps too if you force the framerate. I may try to gen some answers from Google directly if I don't figure this out over the weekend.
BackCheck said:
For what it's worth, I've gotten near the proper framerate with 3rd party apps. Both Open Camera (free) and Filmic Pro (paid) hit 59.667 on 60fps mode. The proper framerate is 59.94 (60,000/1001). Filmic Pro can do an exact even 60fps too if you force the framerate. I may try to gen some answers from Google directly if I don't figure this out over the weekend.
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I tried open Camera, and it looks like 30fps when I force 60fps. It just says about 30.095, Min 22.222 and max 43.103 in Media Info. This is fail.
Can't find it myself! help
Was wondering the same thing. Selecting info on a recorded video doesn't show framerate either.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
Automatic FPS Switching
First, a new option to automatically switch FPS during video recording has been added. According to a Product Manager that we spoke to at the event, people have trouble deciding what the best framerate is before recording a video. This new feature lets the Google Camera app decide what framerate to record at – either 30 or 60 fps – depending on what’s on screen. The feature can even switch framerates in the middle of a recording. It doesn’t work with 4K videos, though.
Google Pixel 3 Auto Framerate
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bartolo5 said:
Can't find it myself! help
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djy said:
Was wondering the same thing. Selecting info on a recorded video doesn't show framerate either.
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Hold the phone horizontal and select video mode. On the lower left corner you will see a little icon "A". Touch this icon and you will see "Auto" or "30fps".
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https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
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Great, so 30fps is working as intended on an $850 phone. Thanks for finding this gem. Glad I don't have to wait 6 months to a year for this quote from Google to find out it essentially will never be fixed. Hopefully they don't regress on the Pixel 2, because this isn't a improvement in my book. How about Auto, 24, 30, 50, 60 option on an $850 phone?
This is not acceptable.
I want to be able to lock it to 60fps, not to leave Google device the frame rate for me.
Guys, we need to send feedbacks via the Camera app and try to involve the media (@madebygoogle on Twitter).
That's the only thing we can do to hope they'll release an update enabling 60fps selection.
matteventu said:
This is not acceptable.
I want to be able to lock it to 60fps, not to leave Google device the frame rate for me.
Guys, we need to send feedbacks via the Camera app and try to involve the media (@madebygoogle on Twitter).
That's the only thing we can do to hope they'll release an update enabling 60fps selection.
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I just confirmed on their support chat that there is no option for 60fps, like we didn't already figure that out. They suggested going to 'settings -> about phone -> send feedback about this device' and sending feedback that way. I am already posting what I can on social media as well. Wish we could get this in the front page of xda.
I just used Open Cam set to 60fps and the Google Cam on auto to record the same scene and I must admit that they look identical. I cannot see the difference with my naked eye.
yankeesfan714 said:
I just used Open Cam set to 60fps and the Google Cam on auto to record the same scene and I must admit that they look identical. I cannot see the difference with my naked eye.
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This is exactly my observation. Which means, this could be a limit of the new hardware and/or part of the Visual Core stuff which might be a harder thing to fix. We shall see how Google responds.
I think it will be "working as intended" or the hardware is limited to auto, because (insert some sort of white wash excuse). I would prefer darker video of 60 fps over brighter 30fps variable frame rate hogwash.
So today at my son's baseball game I used open Cam locked in at 60fps and goggle at 1080 auto and the open Cam video looks choppy and looks like it skipped frames. The Google Cam video looks very smooth like 60fps does. So I'm gonna say that Google Cam does a dang good job of chosing the best fps.
Video recording is an afterthought on the Pixel series. Stabilization is top tier, but everything else (image quality, audio quality, etc) takes a back seat. I'm actually not upset since I rarely ever record videos, and when I do, they are short clips at home that have ZERO production value. I'd be willing to be 95% of consumers are the same way.
Heck, have you noticed how every amateur video that goes viral on the news is shot in portrait mode and not landscape?! #PetPeve

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