[Q] Complete lack of even preliminary reviews - HTC Sensation

I know that at least some people have the phone but there is a complete lack of even preliminary reviews on the web/here. Whats the story? Surely more than the two or three people who got their hands on one here have the device.
Can anyone point me at a basic overview of first impressions etc of the device that wasnt written in April.

i was thinkin the smae thing, not a single review or unboxing :l

I think it's because it's on an exclusive with Vodafone. (this is "logical" speculation) but I think that the techsites would prefer to get a sim-free phone (that they may sell on when they've finished testing and reviewing) and so they can't get that due to the exclusivity.
Also from what I've heard from a few on phandroid is that their pre-orders have been "delayed." Some have reported to be getting them by monday or maybe saturday (due to delivery times) but who know's if they'll give some kind of review.
The exclusivity is really annoying!! I NEED an in-depth, final build, review and video so I can decide between this and the GSII - the decision is DRIVING ME NUTS!!

Wow, it's been ONE day. Calm down! No doubt the site/youtube will be inundated with reviews as the phones start to get into peoples hot little hands!

Alistair25 said:
Wow, it's been ONE day. Calm down! No doubt the site/youtube will be inundated with reviews as the phones start to get into peoples hot little hands!
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True, but I've been trying to make the decision for literally a month now...
too eager to make a proper decision

unless testers had thiers before today. it makes sense to review after day or 2 testing. unboxing maybe tommoz as a few of us have got one. Im getting mine hopefully tomorrow.

Im there on youtube refreshing this page every hour. I need a life
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...o_date_uploaded&suggested_categories=28&uni=3

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unless testers had thiers before today. it makes sense to review after day or 2 testing. unboxing maybe tommoz as a few of us have got one. Im getting mine hopefully tomorrow.
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You're quite right and I doubt that testers had pre-release units.
When testers have pre-release units there are normally two scenarios:
1) they release a review of a pre-release unit before it comes to market
2) they sit on the review till it comes to market which means they would have published a review today the moment they were available in stores.
So we'll most likely see reviews in two days as you said and then maybe in a week for some others. I don't think they'll care too much about whether it is sim-locked or not (I'm talking about the bigger sites as they often get loaners for their reviews).

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XDA Flint for sale

Hi guys. I'm selling my Flint...here it is:
link
Yeah, it's a bit cheeky, but when it's gone, it's gone...so hurry
If I saw this 3 weeks ago I would have gone for it surely
knowing HTC Athena 2 due out soon, I now prefers to wait till Athena 2 released.
best of luck! I did best offer you on that auction, but was declined.
Yeah too right it was declined. People offering me silly money. Think I'm stupid??? If people don't want to pay what these things are worth, they should either forget it and get a device that suits their budget, or wait a couple of years until it drops to the price you want to pay (judging by the offers, it'll be about 10 years!! ), instead of wasting my time and looking a little bit foolish...
Anyway it's still for sale if anybody's interested. Link updated and slightly reduced price.
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
Can you still actually leave buyers negative feedback? I thought that had been stopped by ebay.
Ponder said:
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
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O2 do not, and never have SIM locked their Windows Mobile devices. The Flint is pretty much the standard HTC offering, though the current ROM does not have the HTC Home front end.
O2 also tend to do warranty repairs based on the IMEI, so do not necessarily need the original owner to mediate things, as long as you are using an O2 SIM.
It seems amazing that prices seem to vary from around £320 to well over £500 on Ebay.
Thanks for clearing that up, if I were in the market it'd justify the cost for me.
Maybe if matmaneyre could point these things out in the item description it'd clear things up to the public in general and bring about a quicker sale
I still don't think it's possible to leave negative feedback to a buyer though, especially one with whom no transaction has actually occurred.
Yes- you're right. Ebay changed the rules at the end of last year, for better or worse, though as you say, it was never possible to leave FB for someone who didn't actually buy.
With Ebay, the content of the advert say's an awful lot about the product and the seller
I thought about buying that from you off of eBay.
Something doesn’t quite feel right about that auction.
You say it’s an upgrade, yet it’s not available as an upgrade!? Also you say it’s too complicated for you but it’s no more complicated than any other Windows mobile device.
Maybe I’m paranoid but...
To be honest, by 'too complicated for me' I really meant not quite right for me, as it has too many features I am not going to use, and I think I would be better off cashing in and getting something more suitable to my needs. Hope that clears it up a bit. I'd have put that in the description, but it seems to take so long to create a good listing just the way you want it, minor things that the everyday person browsing for such a device just get overlooked when you preview your listing before submitting it. Once you get to a stage where you think it sounds and looks good enough, you kinda just go with it.
As you say, it's no more complicated than any other WM device. It is available as an upgrade through O2, but strictly only to business customers. They are extremely hard to get hold of otherwise. I hounded them literally everyday for a month because I returned my faulty Serra (see my signature) and they couldn't offer me an equal or better replacement. All their Serras were out of stock - really messed me about for 4 weeks. In the end they backed down as there was nothing else they could offer me.
They don't know their ear from their elbow.
And I didn't realise you couldn't leave negative feedback to a buyer as luckily I've never been in a situation where I'd want to, although that's really only on there to make people think seriously before submitting an offer. I don't want to be relisting all the time for the sake of someone not reading the buyer restrictions or trying to scam me.
Hope that explains a few things...if you're still wary,. check my feedback. I've sold all my WM devices of the last 5 years on ebay (see sig again!) And see my postcount and view my posts too. I am a real, genuine human!!
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
In general section is a thread called Buy & Sell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434069
Let´s use it for that porpose
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Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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Thanks for that, means a lot!
I didn't realise there was a buy and sell section. Thanks for that. If a mod would like to move me, feel free.
Anyway, relisted (again), updated link (again) and reduced (again)!
SOLD now, thanks.

HTC HD2 on O2.........

Hi all,
Release date for the HD2 on O2 was yesterday, I have been trying my utmost to get hold of one of these. Does anyone know any insider information?
I seem to be getting different info from different O2 reps.
I WANT ONE NOW!
Nobody knows - but the best guess at the moment is next week at the earliest. O2 just can't seem to answer a straight question different representatives giving different answers. It could come out this afternoon but nobody knows
looks like its been delayed until november now
loomx said:
looks like its been delayed until november now
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based on what?
Gonna phone them again. They are all saying its due this week but can't tell me when. They say only once it shows on the system can they price it etc.
Next rep has said they are conducting tests on it and it will be released on the 26th November. I am so bloody impatient!
ianmason said:
Next rep has said they are conducting tests on it and it will be released on the 26th November. I am so bloody impatient!
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i know it's terrible waiting! i am so DESPERATE for this phone lol
Getting around all the hype, I don't think the Palm Pre has been a fantastic seller for them and I think if the HD2 drops now it will leave them with a lot of unsold Pre's.... so they are holding it back for the that reason (pure guesswork on my part).
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Next rep has said they are conducting tests on it and it will be released on the 26th November. I am so bloody impatient!
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The HD2 was supposed to be "in the final stages of acceptance testing" last week.
Joezhang said:
Getting around all the hype, I don't think the Palm Pre has been a fantastic seller for them and I think if the HD2 drops now it will leave them with a lot of unsold Pre's.... so they are holding it back for the that reason (pure guesswork on my part).
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How they expected the Pre to sell as well as their marketing implies that they expected it to, is a mystery to me - the Pre offers very little new or exciting, with the OS being the only real exception (and I've heard a wide range of opinions on the OS). The problem is, if they hold back the HD2, they're going to end up not selling many of those as most people who want one will have moved to a different network or got one unlocked (O2 is one of the worse networks now IMHO - presumably they spent all of their money on iPhone exclusivity and subsidisation rather than improving their network and offering good deals).
Why doesn't the BBC interview O2 about the HD2 instead of wasting time interviewing them about the Pre?
I agree
Joezhang said:
Getting around all the hype, I don't think the Palm Pre has been a fantastic seller for them and I think if the HD2 drops now it will leave them with a lot of unsold Pre's.... so they are holding it back for the that reason (pure guesswork on my part).
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I think you might jus be right on that one my friend hopefully that wil teach them next time not be greedy and try to stock every handset under the sun
Yes, been pushed back to 3rd week November. However none of the reps I have spoken to are absolutely sure when it will be out, nor what the final pricing structure will be.
I am assuming they will definitely be out by December to catch the Xmas traffic.
WB
Lol,
they will be selling it on estonia at late october on early november.
T-mobile is also selling them on 6 Nov according to them. I guess O2 thinks they are special and people will wait for them
Keep an eye on this thread guys.
Ok, WHOS calling o2 everyday (Multiple times) like me?
ianmason said:
Ok, WHOS calling o2 everyday (Multiple times) like me?
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You sad timewaster. Hassling O2 isn't going to make it arrive any sooner.
Moandal said:
You sad timewaster. Hassling O2 isn't going to make it arrive any sooner.
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Blimey!!
Just eager to get hold of it as soon as I can.
Moandal said:
You sad timewaster. Hassling O2 isn't going to make it arrive any sooner.
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How do you know? One of the early excuses for an ambiguous date was that O2 didn't want the HD2 to hurt Pre sales. However, there's clearly a lot more demand for the HD2 and a lot less demand for the Pre than they expected, so O2 might decide to fast-track the HD2.
Latest from o2;
I called customer services and spoke to a guy who said they will definitely be getting stock over the weekend and it will definitely be on sale on the 26th October. I have now spoken to quite a few o2 reps and none have sounded as positive as this one. He didn't even have to go and ask a supervisor/manager/buyer........
We shall see!
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How do you know? One of the early excuses for an ambiguous date was that O2 didn't want the HD2 to hurt Pre sales. However, there's clearly a lot more demand for the HD2 and a lot less demand for the Pre than they expected, so O2 might decide to fast-track the HD2.
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Thing is, they were originally planning to launch the HD2 on 12th October, so that blows your theory out of the water. See here:
http://www.redmondpie.com/o2-uk-launching-htc-hd2-on-october-12-lkj621/
and various other news reports.
ianmason said:
Latest from o2;
I called customer services and spoke to a guy who said they will definitely be getting stock over the weekend and it will definitely be on sale on the 26th October. I have now spoken to quite a few o2 reps and none have sounded as positive as this one. He didn't even have to go and ask a supervisor/manager/buyer........
We shall see!
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Of course he didn't have to ask a supervisor. He was just telling you what you wanted to hear so he could get you off the line and move on to the next customer with a genuine need of assistance.
I'm not trying to be nasty, but there's no way the HD2 will be on sale from O2 on Monday, when none of the e-tailers are getting it until 11th November at the earliest. So for the next month or so, why don't you be patient, leave the poor call centre staff alone and get on with enjoying your life. It's only a phone.

[Q] Buy or wait for what happens in Oct.

Sorry if there is any other post like this, I didn't find any in the search function.
I am wondering if it is worth it to plunge into this device or I should wait to see what happens on Oct. Supposedly the rumors are that there is going to be some new transformer or what not.
I'm kinda on the fence whether or not to just take the plunge and buy this tablet or just wait 2 more months... Help?
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Sorry if there is any other post like this, I didn't find any in the search function.
I am wondering if it is worth it to plunge into this device or I should wait to see what happens on Oct. Supposedly the rumors are that there is going to be some new transformer or what not.
I'm kinda on the fence whether or not to just take the plunge and buy this tablet or just wait 2 more months... Help?
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October is all rumors! There wont be new model this year, Im 95% sure and ordered one myself yesterday.
3G model is coming in next month, if you need that, but it will add the price too much for my needs.
agegsg said:
Sorry if there is any other post like this, I didn't find any in the search function.
I am wondering if it is worth it to plunge into this device or I should wait to see what happens on Oct. Supposedly the rumors are that there is going to be some new transformer or what not.
I'm kinda on the fence whether or not to just take the plunge and buy this tablet or just wait 2 more months... Help?
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I am in the same situation. With the christmas season right around the corner, manufacturers would be crazy not to introduce new models in the Oct/Nov window. I've heard that the new Kal-El cores from nVidia should be released in August as well.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/02/asus-next-gen-eee-pad-transformer-to-pack-nvidias-quad-core-ka/
That being said, I've been looking into the Transformer and Iconia and will probably just wait out the 2-3 months till the holiday season.
Thank you for your opinions.
I wish these companies gave better clues...
New article to add to rumors...
http://popherald.com/technology/ipa...es-alongside-new-asus-transformer-claims/9531
Its weird that they would release one around the same year they released this one.
I guess I'll go to the store and take another look and see if I can get suckered into buying one
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Thank you for your opinions.
I wish these companies gave better clues...
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That's probably never going to happen. Its in their best interest to make you think that nothing better will ever come along and you might as well get one now because you're just wasting time while everyone else is out having fun. The problem is that they also need to show investors that they are ahead of their competition with innovation and new products. So they are intentionally vague in order to put you right in the situation you're in...decisions, decisions
The truth is that just as you purchase your TF, something new will come out the week after. If you're wanting to be on the bleeding edge of a new tech, then it's going to cost you. I personally, like to let others figure out how to root my favorite devices then just buy them a beer. If it hadn't been for the $100 coupon floating around last week, I would still be waiting. If you want, you could even wait for the newest "Kal El" tablet to arrive then pick up a tegra2 for cheap!
Good luck, and make sure you can be happy with whatever decision you make.

HTC Sensation XL Winner - Waiting for phone

Hi,
So I won the HTC Sensation XL from this competition: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683209. I have been announced the winner and I am eagerly waiting for this device.
The phone has been "shipped off" on the 16th and would arrive at mine on the 18th. I have waited but the shipment can take a week as I am told. I am not jumping to conclusions just yet but I have asked the OP of the competition where my phone is and other questions... He is ignoring my PM's unlike before ( he could be really busy after he announced the winner ) but he is sometimes online but always ignores me.
I have sold my phone and I am waiting for this SensationXL... Do you think it will come? I will let you know if it arrives after a week or if it was all a fake.
Thanks
ProtoDeath
Actually you ARE drawing conclusions. Give it some time, Shipping to UK can take a bit (especially if you packet draws attention to the customs).
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Hi,
So I won the HTC Sensation XL from this competition: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683209. I have been announced the winner and I am eagerly waiting for this device.
The phone has been "shipped off" on the 16th and would arrive at mine on the 18th. I have waited but the shipment can take a week as I am told. I am not jumping to conclusions just yet but I have asked the OP of the competition where my phone is and other questions... He is ignoring my PM's unlike before ( he could be really busy after he announced the winner ) but he is sometimes online but always ignores me.
I have sold my phone and I am waiting for this SensationXL... Do you think it will come? I will let you know if it arrives after a week or if it was all a fake.
Thanks
ProtoDeath
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Dude...really?
And it's your fault for selling your phone before getting the Sensation...
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Actually you ARE drawing conclusions. Give it some time, Shipping to UK can take a bit (especially if you packet draws attention to the customs).
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I think he is worried more than jumping to conclusions...
weeo said:
I think he is worried more than jumping to conclusions...
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He'd have nothing to worry about if he didn't go ahead and sell his phone. It's his own fault. I highly doubt this guy threw a contest just to troll everyone.
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He'd have nothing to worry about if he didn't go ahead and sell his phone. It's his own fault. I highly doubt this guy threw a contest just to troll everyone.
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True. We shall wait for a week and see. Yeah it is too bad he sold his phone... thats a negative on his part. I know FireStone00 and he is pretty legit. Just calm down dude
@OP,
And you needed to create a new thread for this because?...
If it was shipped on the 16th, which was a Friday, and they told you it could take up to a week, just wait. No need to create a thread announcing the possibility/theory that the contest was a scam. It makes the OP of the thread look bad for no reason. Do you have a tracking number? or even a confirmation from the carrier that the phone was shipped? If the answer to either question is yes, then give it some time.
I will close this thread now as it makes absolutely no sense and you are simply inviting animosity over a concern that you have for something you are getting for free as well as ill feelings towards someone who likely is undeserving of it (the contest maker).
Thread closed.
PS. Just changed the title of your thread as you made it sound like you were scammed or something...

The HTC One A9 is a huge gamble that might just pay off

If you've ever been to an electronics market in certain parts of Asia, you'll be familiar with iPhone knockoffs running Android. Within weeks of a new Apple device, you can get a gray market iPhone lookalike running Android Jelly Bean or something, for a third of the cost of the real thing. But we never thought we'd see a 'real' manufacturer take this approach. Until now
If I were living under a rock, and came across the One A9 on holiday, I would absolutely believe it was a gray market ripoff. I can just imagine coming home to tell my friends, “Hey, check out the fake HTC iPhone I bought,” only to be informed HTC itself actually put it out.
We can lay some blame for this odd decision on the exodus of HTC designers – Scott Croyle in 2014, and Jonah Becker in 2015 – and presume the design department at HTC is full of empty desks following their departure. Or we could put it down to a last-ditch effort to get someone, anyone, to buy an HTC device.
But what if this is actually the best decision HTC has made in a long time?
Exactly! The fact that it comes from HTC! HTC POSSIBLY THE MOST INNOVATIVE COMPANY EVER! Or should I say was. I think HTC has absolutely NO idea what they are actually doing at the moment. Every time they make decisions that are even worse than before. Like the don't even care about user feedback! They are becoming the 2nd Nintendo I could say. I really hope Sony won't end like this too because they actually know what they are doing!
despite the positive reviews ive seen im skeptical about buying. i don't do preorders and ive been burned too many times by false reviews. the device does look pretty nice though.
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despite the positive reviews ive seen im skeptical about buying. i don't do preorders and ive been burned too many times by false reviews. the device does look pretty nice though.
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I've mentioned this in another thread before if you're interested in the device and don't pre-order it will cost you an extra $100 on November 7th. which is the end of the promotional pricing. HTC offers a 30 day no questions asked money back guarantee why not take them up on their offer? You can always send it back if it doesn't suit you!
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I've mentioned this in another thread before if you're interested in the device and don't pre-order it will cost you an extra $100 on November 7th. which is the end of the promotional pricing. HTC offers a 30 day no questions asked money back guarantee why not take them up on their offer? You can always send it back if it doesn't suit you!
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Does the 30 days start from the time of purchase or the time of delivery?
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Does the 30 days start from the time of purchase or the time of delivery?
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It would have to start from the day of delivery, I have another pre-order that has already been pending for 30 days, if the trial started at the time of purchase my trial period for that order would expire before I ever received the product. Makes 'Sense' to me, sorry bad pun..... Good Luck!!!
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Does the 30 days start from the time of purchase or the time of delivery?
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From the date of delivery. Confirmed by Rep over the phone. I am still waiting for my Sprint A9, which I ordered on 20th last month :crying:
Huge... I think too ... Thanks HTC...

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