G2x questions (quality questions) - T-Mobile LG G2x

ok, im getting the onslaught of crappy G2 refurbs, so im considering a new device and the only 2 i will consider is the G2x (might have to pay full retail for it) or another MT4G (already had one, would hate to get another because i already had it but tmo will substitute it for free)
im conflicted with leaving the G2 because it has a keyboard, and overall my biggest issue, but a 4incher may not be too bad, and for that ill have to try out for myself to see if it is suitable.
as for other things, this is where i have questions:
from 4 different internet reviews like cnet, engadget, etc all said battery life in stock form exceeded their expectations by lasting a whole day under medium heavy use, so im just wondering if others are getting the same basic battery life
how is the speaker for ringers on this device? the G2 speaker sounds like some cheap 80's walkman. its not a deal killer, but i would like to know if its better. hard to demo since i dont use stock ringers so i wont have a way to really compare.
screen response, i have read the screen is really sensitive, the G2 screen is not horrid but not impressive either....the MT4G is a lot more sensitive compared to the G2, and going from the MT4G to a G2 is probably what spoiled me on the screen sensitivity. can anyone throw some input on this or confirm that the reviews are accurate?
call quality....this seems to be the number one con on this phone according to reviews online....can someone throw in their 2 cents on this? this is concerning me the most as the G2 call quality is very good, the MT4G call quality was ok but the G2 i found was a lot better.
outdoor screen visibility. this is the other big deal breaker...the G2 in daylight just plain sucks...period. its practically useless even on full brightness, this is the number one reason that will make it easier for me to sacrifice the physical keyboard.
also, after reading this thread, i have some major concerns about the rebooting and freezing and overheating...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081180 are newer built devices doing better than the original release shipments?

G2 with CM7 has very impressive battery life...crushes the G2x.
G2 speaker sounds like my old handheld 1984 green football game with 4 blinking red lights. The G2x sounds like a 2000's walkman, it's serviceable The iPod touch sounds much better...
Screen sensitivity is awesome on the G2x. I never had a problem with the G2, but it's improved here.
No issues with call quality on the G2x for me. My only issue has been with data reception...it's worse than my Nexus S...and I can't get the thing to tether worth a damn. My laptop connects to the hotspot, but never gets internet.
Outdoor screen visibility is unmatched on the G2x.
No reboot/freeze issues here.

ScooterG said:
G2 with CM7 has very impressive battery life...crushes the G2x.
G2 speaker sounds like my old handheld 1984 green football game with 4 blinking red lights. The G2x sounds like a 2000's walkman, it's serviceable The iPod touch sounds much better...
Screen sensitivity is awesome on the G2x. I never had a problem with the G2, but it's improved here.
No issues with call quality on the G2x for me. My only issue has been with data reception...it's worse than my Nexus S...and I can't get the thing to tether worth a damn. My laptop connects to the hotspot, but never gets internet.
Outdoor screen visibility is unmatched on the G2x.
No reboot/freeze issues here.
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pretty much spot on... only extra remark i will make is the battery is that i am almost certain battery life will improve once we get an OTA update including new battery and radio drivers, something is a little off or wonky about them...
assuming you know what you are doing, you should be able to get 20-30 hours of light to moderate use no problem... i got 36 hours of light use on one charge switching between wifi and 4g depending where i was at...

I am lucky to see 12 hour day on stock battery on my G2 running cm7. On my extended battery tho it was awesome.
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Can you Explain your data issues please? I only use wifi at home, cell elsewhere while I'm out. I don't use that hotspot crap. Is it poor reception or just a delayed or slow ping response?
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tackleberry said:
Can you Explain your data issues please? I only use wifi at home, cell elsewhere while I'm out. I don't use that hotspot crap. Is it poor reception or just a delayed or slow ping response?
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Hotspot crap? And yes, from what I can tell, it's poor reception.
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Yea hotspot crap lol. Bad reception is not a good thing. I may hold off because of that
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I tether my Xoom to my G2X with absolutely no problem. If the wifi network is even relatively slow, the hotspot is usually a better option for me. Although the device does get a little warm.

Lg at least from a verizon standpoint was always good and solid and reliable, which a reason why I was considering the g2x....I read about a lot of negative stuff about the g2x and not in a way where I have to search either...I can't seem to find proper specs on the screen tho on what type it is.
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Lg at least from a verizon standpoint was always good and solid and reliable, which a reason why I was considering the g2x....I read about a lot of negative stuff about the g2x and not in a way where I have to search either...I can't seem to find proper specs on the screen tho on what type it is.
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800x480 ips panel. I don't know how many colors it is able to display though
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How does an ips panel compare to an amoled or super amoled etc?
I checked it out in the store its not too bad, but data was not provisioned on the device so I couldn't try it out. General signal seemed identical side by side when looking at the signal meter.
Audio was a night and day difference
Typing seemed ok, but I think I have a mental block with the physical keyboard.
I'm on the edge with it, and when I asked the sales person about problems he seemed shaky but did say it reset a lot and a simple battery pull would fix that until it does it again.
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Returned the G2X , waiting for the HTC Sensation 4G

Usually I am not that cell phone picky , but I never did enjoy this phone.
1. Horrible screen IMO(when compared against the Amoled screens) LCD flashlight corners really bothered me.
2. Form factor : It is too long for the screen size , too much wasted space on the bottom.
3. Power button on top was awkward ( maybe too used to Samsungs)
4. Earpiece quality seemed muffled and too quiet sometimes
5. Picture quality below average
Thats it. Will be going back to either galaxy 4g or Nexus S for now. Looking forward to the HTC Sensation 4G on June 8th or the Galaxy S2 .
I realize that like many things , cell phone preferences are very subjective. If you are enjoying the virtues of this phone( of which there are many) have fun till the next greatest thing
Sad to see you go. Good luck with the sensation, it should be an amazing device.
Sensation is a great device but have fun waiting months for unlocked bootloader,kernels and of course CM7. If ur interested in any of those features, be patient very patient
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I believe cyanogen said he was moving away from HTC until they stop locking the bootloader. The sensation may not actually see cm7.
I guess HTC getting too cocky and going the motofail route only time will tell if they made the right decision, but for instance you can see currently the amount of motofail atrix in the market section.
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My brother got the HTC Thunderbolt which is the qHD LCD display. It too has bleed LCD issue. I'm assuming this is very common issue for LCD display.
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Still deciding my self. I'll probably end up keeping it though. Any minor issues, except for lcd bleed, will most likely be addressed by the devs.
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I can't fathom why you would return the G2X because of the Sensation. The screen issues will be exactly the same, and everything else will be worse because stock ROMs *always* have bugs. The difference is the G2X is days/weeks away from its being fixed, and the Sensation will be lucky to get updates at all the way HTC is going.
Gudluck with your decision. Your reasons are all minor problems for me. Ive been very happy with G2x and love the fact that the world's greatest android dev, Cyanogen is supporting the phone himself. It only means a clear and brighter feature for G2x. I wont have to worry getting left behind with him supporting G2x.
And gudluck with sensation's poor battery life knowing htc the battery wouldn't even last for half a day.
Compared to the sampled display any phone is gonna look dull even the sensation with the qhd display. Qhd just means more resolution, not better colors or contrast.
I bet the ips panel on the g2x will have better colors than the super LCD on the sensation
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My brother got the HTC Thunderbolt which is the qHD LCD display. It too has bleed LCD issue. I'm assuming this is very common issue for LCD display.
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The thunderbolt has a wvga screen not a qhd one
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Maybe people got so spoiled on the Black blacks and saturated colors on an amoled screen
Cm 7 is good but is not the greatest all is personal preference In the long run. There are also more developers beside cyanogen. That are willing to take on the phone. It's a HTC phone that alone will make tons of developers for sense. Run towards it regardless of the phone locked bootloader.
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Yeah, I can see the decision is tough; I opted for the G2x purely for the stock and freedom to truly "own" my phone. If I could find a way to pair my phone with external speakers to hear the ringer through those speakers I would be in "G2x heaven".
Hope your decision works out for ya.
That extra room at he bottom come in handy for otterbox type cases so the phone will be protected more. HTC is known for having huge batterylife issues look up the stats on thunderbolt. One reviewer left the phone alone all day and it still died after 5 hours of NO USE.
I think I can settle for G2x because:
HDMI output: playing games on 42" TV is soooo nice!
easy to root: I can get more control on the phone but the branding is very limited.
"darker" black compared with MT4 (good screen).
money factor (Sensation will be $650 without contract).
wondercoolguy said:
That extra room at he bottom come in handy for otterbox type cases so the phone will be protected more. HTC is known for having huge batterylife issues look up the stats on thunderbolt. One reviewer left the phone alone all day and it still died after 5 hours of NO USE.
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Not all HTC devices are bad. The Nexus One had very good battery life, however I agree, the Thunderbolt was awful. Then again that's what happens when you go with a 1400mA battery on 4g. People using the extended battery are seeing much improved battery life.
Take care. Not to be mean but people not a days are to picky about what you get. The G2X is a great phone when you put it next to the Nexus S and the galaxy 4g. My main selling point for the G2X is that its right next to the galaxy 4g in my T-Mobile store. I show ppl how slow the galaxy 4g is compared to the G2X when it comes to normal things.
Have to agree. With Cyan on board for support, the only way the G2x can go is up

My personal opinion on the G2X

I rarely make threads on XDA, but I must share my opinion on this handset.
Ive owned several phones. MT4G, 3G AND 4G Vibrants, G2, and currently the G2x, and I have NEVER had the problems in which Im having to deal with now.
Im on my second G2x. My first was riddled with random reboots, black screens of death, and terrible data connections. I couldnt even charge my first one overnight without it dying in the middle of the night. My phone was my alarm clock, so when I cant wake up on time, theres a major problem.
My second handset has only froze on me twice, but Ive also only had it a week. It stays awake and I can actually use it as an alarm clock, but the current issue Im having would be the HORRENDOUS data drops. I cant even receive phone calls because the phone cannot maintain a connection.
I am APPALLED that TMO would allow such a buggy handset to release. I looked past the light bleeding, Ive looked past the glitches and Ive looked past TMO AND LG pussyfooting around with the updates. But I cannot, and I will not deal with a phone that cannot make or receive phone calls. Whats the point of owning a PHONE that cannot do its primary job?
I agree. I had these same arguments with Verizon. My g2x has been ok. But it does need help.
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Overall worst android phone I've owned. Going back to Samsung once the Hercules hits and never looking back.
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Wow, some people must have some crummy luck with phones. I've had my g2x for a few days now. Mediocre(not horrible) battery, no black screens, freezing, or reboots. It's not the greatest phone I've had, but it isn't horrible. I do prefer my wifes mt4g though.
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allthrottle said:
Wow, some people must have some crummy luck with phones. I've had my g2x for a few days now. Mediocre(not horrible) battery, no black screens, freezing, or reboots. It's not the greatest phone I've had, but it isn't horrible. I do prefer my wifes mt4g though.
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my wife has the mt4g as well, i looked at her phone 2 nights ago right after looking at mine, and realized how crappy her phones screen is compared to the G2x.
the only things i hate, absolutely hate about the G2x is the lack of trackpad and no dedicated camera button. the camera thing i can deal with, but the trackpad loss is just plain ****ty, coming from a G2 and a MT4g myself both having them and using it to unlock.
i have had crummy luck with phones, for years. the G2x needs a lot of love and help, but overall i am satisfied, and im sure, just like the G2, it will get wayyyyy better. battery life since installing faux kernel and CM7 #34 battery life seems a lot better. the fact that i can see this screen in direct sunlight makes me want to not return this device. the G2 just plain sucks in direct sunlight to the point where it is literally a worthless device, and in moderate sunlight is almost as useless. the G2x on 25% is more functional in daylight compared to the G2 on full brightness. this phone is great, and will scream when the SW catches up to the hardwares ability.
Stop complaining we have enough of the year "g2x is terrible for me" threads. We don't have to know your switching devices just switch. Simple
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Suprah said:
Stop complaining we have enough of the year "g2x is terrible for me" threads. We don't have to know your switching devices just switch. Simple
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should i start a new thread for me?
"hi i have been trolling the G2x forums for 2 weeks, read about how bad it is and then bought one anyway and have been happy"
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Stop complaining we have enough of the year "g2x is terrible for me" threads. We don't have to know your switching devices just switch. Simple
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Oh, crap. I didnt know I had to avoid sharing my opinion to please other users.
How about you just avoid the thread?
trill12 said:
Oh, crap. I didnt know I had to avoid sharing my opinion to please other users.
How about you just avoid the thread?
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yea, youre right, or you could have posted in an existing thread full of G2x disgust LOL
I have a G2X sitting in a box. T-Mobile won't take it back and the battery driver is so bad that I can't reliably tell when it will die on me. I'm on the second battery - the first got so hot that it was uncomfortable to touch and smelled like melting plastic.
So I'm not feeling like letting the phone charge without supervision is such a great idea.
A hard look at the source of the battery driver didn't exactly inspire confidence, either. I mean, seriously, a released production device full of comments like "get capacity using battery voltage for demo". Yeah, good stuff.
A complete and utter lemon of a phone, at least so far. And I, too, am pretty disappointed with TMO.
The battery life issue is annoying. Ill agree that's the biggest issue I have from a sw standpoint.
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Fok these threads..
My opinion. And I've had a n1, hd2, sgs, tp2 etcccc. And this is the fastest, most stable phone I've had.the build quality is amazing and the phone never reboots, never locks up. This phone ia the ****.even the reviews praise it...
Get a new battery, and stop crying .. I've had 3 and all of em have had no issues other then me scratching and one dust.. No screen of death, no reboots (did on my hd2, n1 and sgs, hell tp2s as well), battery is not the best but not the worst......
I recommend this phone to anyone.. Its great.... The haters here will just hate, thats how it goes....... Peace and love
Stop these new threads, their dumb...
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Fok these threads..
My opinion. And I've had a n1, hd2, sgs, tp2 etcccc. And this is the fastest, most stable phone I've had.the build quality is amazing and the phone never reboots, never locks up. This phone ia the ****.even the reviews praise it...
Get a new battery, and stop crying .. I've had 3 and all of em have had no issues other then me scratching and one dust.. No screen of death, no reboots (did on my hd2, n1 and sgs, hell tp2s as well), battery is not the best but not the worst......
I recommend this phone to anyone.. Its great.... The haters here will just hate, thats how it goes....... Peace and love
Stop these new threads, their dumb...
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WHY ARE THEY DUMB?
people having problems with the G2x can't talk about it? Only praises huh? Okay, I'll try that first. I love the fact that my G2x has a 30 day return policy!
Glad you recommend it. I don't. Well, I do if you don't mind the high risk of random reboots, overheating, $hitty battery life and constant drop kicked calls.
If you're a big gambler...go for it.
If you require a little more quality control....wait a little for the better devices to drop.
I've had a G2X for two weeks (after having an HD2 that I absolutely loved and tweaked like crazy), and I think the complaints are valid, and it's all based around the stock ROM. The ROM it ships with is crap, and it's that ROM that causes the battery drain issues (something about the drivers, QIK, and all the other bloatware that can't be deleted), and more than likely is the source of those random reboots and some of the other issues people are having.
I switched to EaglesBlood 1.02 (tried 1.03 and 1.04... I like 1.02 the best) and i haven't had any of those issues. My battery lasts over 24 hours consistently with what I consider regular usage (about an hour worth of wi-fi, lots of web browsing over 4G, about 15 to 20 8mp pictures and maybe 3 or 4 minutes worth of 720p video [smoother frame rate], and a day's worth of calls and texts... and occasionally a few games). It lasts longer than my HD2 did, and runs much better now.
Hopefully once the real Gingerbread update is released it will fix those issues for everyone, but in the meantime I suggest trying a new ROM. The beauty of the G2X is it's dual core without a locked bootloader... take advantage.
trill12 said:
Oh, crap. I didnt know I had to avoid sharing my opinion to please other users.
How about you just avoid the thread?
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Exactly, I am stunned that when people open a thread that they don't need to read, or the simple could care less about others user's experience....why these people that should just continue on to other threads, decided that they need to chip in a 140 character twit remark. I think some of the numb-skulls have hundreds of one line posting...which are basically like farting in a room and walking away, thinking themselves to be clever.
My screen is fine, in fact I think that after I left it face up on my passenger seat that it might have cured some of the glues...might have tightened it up....definitely too early to call.
But the connectivity issues are now becoming a real burden.
1. I lost the ability to hold data connections, after a reboot, they would be there and then get lost. I uninstalled all my task manager stuff, problem was still there....then did some Hard Restores, which put the functionality back.
2. Battery life seems better now. But maintaining a connection in Wifi, is flaky. Since I have no signal at the house I need Wifi, just for phone calls. I have had experience with on a computer it loosing wifi, and then restoring itself, in 20 seconds or less, but after the G2x craps out, its left with real problems.
3. Being new to T-Mobile I think either the phone is not using its hardware correctly to pickup the signal, or the signal on T-Mobile just sucks. Hopefully 2.3 will fix much of this.
4. The build quality, the case, the screen, the touch panel, I like them all, but if it can not have connectivity....its nothing.
5. All my phones I use for alarms, none of them have needed connection in order to be able to put out the alarm....I assume this is true for the G2x.
6. There are now a bunch of HTC Sensation reviews, which I am going to be reviewing. Right now the complaints are the screen is nice, but its not IPS, and the screen angles are weak. I am going to figure out how the hardware is, but I really will need to see a review of it, working on the T-Mobile network.
7. As much as I like the G2x hardware, I mostly need connectivity. I probably need to see if anyone has posted how well their G2x works with early installs of bootleg Gingerbreads. If the connectivity is not improved, I will need a different phone.
DebauchedSloth said:
I have a G2X sitting in a box. T-Mobile won't take it back and the battery driver is so bad that I can't reliably tell when it will die on me. I'm on the second battery - the first got so hot that it was uncomfortable to touch and smelled like melting plastic.
So I'm not feeling like letting the phone charge without supervision is such a great idea.
A hard look at the source of the battery driver didn't exactly inspire confidence, either. I mean, seriously, a released production device full of comments like "get capacity using battery voltage for demo". Yeah, good stuff.
A complete and utter lemon of a phone, at least so far. And I, too, am pretty disappointed with TMO.
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Did you try contacting customer retention? There is no way they will not allow you to exchange that phone for the same/different of equal value.
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WHY ARE THEY DUMB?
people having problems with the G2x can't talk about it? Only praises huh? Okay, I'll try that first. I love the fact that my G2x has a 30 day return policy!
Glad you recommend it. I don't. Well, I do if you don't mind the high risk of random reboots, overheating, $hitty battery life and constant drop kicked calls.
If you're a big gambler...go for it.
If you require a little more quality control....wait a little for the better devices to drop.
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It comes to the point that the complaints are spamming the forum..... When there are already threads to voice your opinion..... Creating a new thread for already fore mentioned issues is just as Annoying as g2x problems that so many ppl are petty about
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It comes to the point that the complaints are spamming the forum..... When there are already threads to voice your opinion..... Creating a new thread for already fore mentioned issues is just as Annoying as g2x problems that so many ppl are petty about
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But isnt that what a FORUM is about? Voicing your opinion about the product you own?
Its definitely not hard to ignore a thread. I think you create more spam COMPLAINING about people that make threads than the actual threads.
All I know is, this is the G2X general forum and Ive made a general post about the feelings of the G2X. Whats the problem here? Other people have done the same. Thats what a FORUM is about.
I have been very pleased with my G2x.. light screen bleed.. no reboots, freezing... over all a bad ass phone. Battery life for me has been great, comes off the charger at 6am used throughout the day (wifi, 4g, texting, phone calls, YouTube and so on.) Then it gets put back on charger at 10-11pm with 15-10% left to spare. Guess I got a good battery too.
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Comparison between G2X and Sensation based on real world experience

Yesterday, I purchased a HTC Sensation from Walmart. I spent the day comparing it to my G2X (which I still have) and decided to see how the phones stack up against each other. The following are my observations:
Screen: I think this one comes down to preference. It's a hard call saying which one looks better than the other. The Sensation did not have any backlight bleeding (my G2X has minimal bleeding). When looking at the same picture on both phones side by side, the G2X seemed to be brighter. The viewing angles on the Sensation were not as extreme as on the G2X, but they were fine (unless your were looking at it from an extreme unnatural angle lol)
Performance: After having used a G2X since it came out, it took a little bit of getting used to the way the Sensation performs. That's not to say it's slow by any means (because it isn't), it just performs differently than the G2X. The Sensation has a lot of transition animations that the G2X doesn't have and this can make it feel slower than the G2X. For example, when you hit the home button on the G2X it takes you straight to the launcher, whereas when you hit the home button on the Sensation it fades into the launcher which takes about a split second longer. After a while I turned the animations setting on "some animations" because I prefer the snappiness of not having so many transitions than having all the eye candy. Of course this is just a personal preference. I'm sure there are plenty of people who will appreciate the eye candy. In using the phone I did not experience any slowdowns or lag. The phone was very responsive. All in all, I'd say both phones are on par with each other when it comes to responsiveness.
Sound: The Sensation wins this one easily. The sound on the G2X is very tinny and gets easily somewhat distorted. While the speakers on the Sensation aren't as good as some phones I've had (such as the Nexus S) they are definitely a higher quality than that of the G2X. The G2X does get a little bit louder than the Sensation, but it's sound quality is not on the same level.
Camera: The camera on the Sensation definitely responds faster than that of the G2X. As far as clarity goes, both phones take pretty decent pictures. I don't really see a world of difference between the two phones. I am pretty satisfied with the cameras on both phones.
Battery Life: Since I have only had the Sensation for one day I can't really speak to in depth on it's battery life. That being said, I will say this, I took the phone off of the charger with the battery around 80%ish and I had 3 hours of phone conversation, about 10 minutes shy of two hours of screen on time, push exchange email, facebook syncing, texting, and web browsing and the battery lasted me a little over 6 hours. This leads me to believe that the battery life on the Sensation is better than that of the G2X. My G2X in the same scenario would have died out much sooner than that.
Conclusion: It's hard for me to say which phone is "better". If you were trying to decide on a phone that was ready to go today, I would say go with the Sensation. Though I've only had it for a day, I did play with it extensively and I did not find any bugs. On my first day of having the G2X, I had already had multiple reboots and freezing. The Sense UI is a bit of an adjustment when coming from vanilla android but it is definitely very nice and very well implemented. The one gripe that I do have with the Sensation is that for some reason it doesn't seem to support bluetooth voice dialing natively. I noticed the leaked G2X gingerbread rom has the same problem so I'm not sure if it's a gingerbread problem or what. Hopefully this thread helps those that might be on the fence between the two phones. If there is anything that I missed that you want to know, just let me know.
Nice review
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Thanks for the great review. I have been considering purchasing a Sensation to go with my G2X. AFter reading a lot of reviews I had decided against it. After reading your review I am back on the fence again as to whether to buy it off contract or not.lol Would be interested in your findings after about a week . Once again thanks for posting an honest objective review!!!!!
Have you tried the death grip on this? Supposedly covering the back of the phone with your palm kills all the radio signals.
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Have you tried the death grip on this? Supposedly covering the back of the phone with your palm kills all the radio signals.
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Yeah I've tried to replicate it but really couldn't. Now if I deliberately cover the phone in a way to intentionally block the signal then yeah you can lose signal, but of course that is true on every phone lol. I think whoever decided that to be an "issue" might have been someone just looking to fine problems, because I don't see any way possible you could unintentionally do that.
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Yeah I've tried to replicate it but really couldn't. Now if I deliberately cover the phone in a way to intentionally block the signal then yeah you can lose signal, but of course that is true on every phone lol. I think whoever decided that to be an "issue" might have been someone just looking to fine problems, because I don't see any way possible you could unintentionally do that.
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I don't actually believe you can do it with every phone to the same extent. Like the iPhone 4 with the Sensation, your skin comes into direct contact with the antenna (or at least the cover which houses it) which causes MORE attenuation then say the G2X.
In the G2X the antenna is inside the phone and then there's a battery cover between it and your hands so your skin/hands NEVER touch the antenna. With the Sensation your fingers touch the antenna (exact issue as iPhone 4) so it will cause a disruption to your signal greater than the G2X.
Even if I cover my G2X completely with a deathgrip I don't see anything close to the results that gsmarena video shows. Not saying this is a dealbreaker but don't fool yourself to say this isn't a possible problem depending on how you hold your phone.
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I don't actually believe you can do it with every phone to the same extent. Like the iPhone 4 with the Sensation, your skin comes into direct contact with the antenna (or at least the cover which houses it) which causes MORE attenuation then say the G2X.
In the G2X the antenna is inside the phone and then there's a battery cover between it and your hands so your skin/hands NEVER touch the antenna. With the Sensation your fingers touch the antenna (exact issue as iPhone 4) so it will cause a disruption to your signal greater than the G2X.
Even if I cover my G2X completely with a deathgrip I don't see anything close to the results that gsmarena video shows. Not saying this is a dealbreaker but don't fool yourself to say this isn't a possible problem depending on how you hold your phone.
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The Sensation death grip is supposedly only for WiFi and Bluetooth (the two holes near the camera). Every report I've seen indicates the cell radio is not impacted...at least that is my understanding.
Well now it's a deathgrip thread. Wack.
Great review.
Gotta say I did like the sensation. It's a tad heavier then the g2x and I really liked that.
I only got to play with one for a minute but I loved the screen. I think it's got a really nice screen.
I did notice lag. The app drawer did have a slight delay before it would open.
Not a the fade out effect it does. Also the weather app was nice. Really like that.
But my g2x is faster.
Really that's all. The g2x is just as nice feeling.
Now the kicker.
I would just use adw ex on either phone. And I love the speed of the g2x.
Either phone would make me happy. But until I get gingerbread on my g2x is can't give an honest opinion.
Because my g2x is faster on 2.2. Has no issues but screen bleed. That never bothers me
So when 2.3 drops.
I was actually looking at the evo 3d now.
I may have to check it out.
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mobilehavoc said:
Have you tried the death grip on this? Supposedly covering the back of the phone with your palm kills all the radio signals.
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I would think even if the death grip exists, the vast majority of superphone owners use a protective case, so that should really never be a major issue.
To the OP.... thanks a BUNCH for your real world comparison! That's exactly the kind of info I needed. I'll still be within my exchange window when the Sensation hits T-Mo stores on the 15th and I'm still undecided if I want to return my G2X. The screen size and resolution of the Sensation is very appealing to me
I don't know, I'm hearing that there are quite a few problems with the Sensation. A buddy of mine got one yesterday and his is locking up and randomly rebooting on him. He's had problems with the GPS locking on and also says the audio leaves a lot to be desired.
Also, if you go to the Sensation forum here on XDA you can see that people are reporting various problems. One that concerns me is several people are reporting that dust particles are getting in behind their screens. That's not cool at all...
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The Sensation death grip is supposedly only for WiFi and Bluetooth (the two holes near the camera). Every report I've seen indicates the cell radio is not impacted...at least that is my understanding.
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Here's a direct comparison against the SGS2. The phone signal is effected but not to the degree Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are. You'll need to use Google Translate.
http://www.nordichardware.se/testla...tungviktare-med-hoeg-upploesning.html?start=8
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The one gripe that I do have with the Sensation is that for some reason it doesn't seem to support bluetooth voice dialing natively.
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What's your definition of "natively?" From the Bluetooth headset without an intermediate app like Google Voice?
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What's your definition of "natively?" From the Bluetooth headset without an intermediate app like Google Voice?
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I mean without the need for a 3rd party app (such as Vlingo).
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I mean without the need for a 3rd party app (such as Vlingo).
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I still don't understand. So, you push the connectivity button on your headset, what do you want to happen?
BarryH_GEG said:
I still don't understand. So, you push the connectivity button on your headset, what do you want to happen?
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Basically what I expect it to do is go into the bluetooth voice dialing prompt (like it does on the G2X). I don't really want to have to use Vlingo.
hows the wifi calling
Im good with my G2X I need a Gyroscope for future gaming and 1 gig rom wont cut it and I hate quadrant on the snapdragon but sensation is a great device but so many hardware woes no Gyroscope people keep not pointing out witch is on the iPhone 4 and galaxy s 2 and LG 2X only.
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Basically what I expect it to do is go into the bluetooth voice dialing prompt (like it does on the G2X). I don't really want to have to use Vlingo.
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Someone posted the fix. That's why I didn't understand what you were trying to do. Kind of stupid on HTC's part.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117912
Having left T-mo with a MT4G to go to *SpRent with the EVO4G and now back with the Mo I was looking for a HTC-ish device. The G2x was the common ground I decided on. I still own 2 Evo4g's (hustler plug) and have been waiting for this Sensation of a deal for T-Mo. Your review seems legit and non biased. Would like to hear what happens within a month of usage though.
"Y a month?" because within in that time, to me, you will have done what ever type of testing (unknowingly) there is to do with the device repeatedly in the many environments you frequent. And been able to post its abilities against the G2x under any and all situations you normally face.
See you in the Future
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hows the wifi calling
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I've only used the wifi calling a few times so far, but I will say it's been stable.
In other news: I've noticed that the bluetooth signal strength is not as strong as on the G2X. With my G2X I could put the phone on the charger and go upstairs or go outside and get as far as the driveway. With the Sensation I get about half the range that I was getting with the G2X.

[Q] sensation the great

all that i've seen on these threads are some of the issues with the sensation, i am one who really likes this phone. i guess every phone has its issues and a few bad apples, but this is by far the best i've tested so far. is there anyone else who likes this phone.
I don't think so. We all pretty much hate it............
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TJBunch1228 said:
I don't think so. We all pretty much hate it............
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yeah, I cant stand it... it's a POS If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you
graffixnyc said:
yeah, I cant stand it... it's a POS If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you
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lol do i hear manhattan, $.25 to the first bidder?
This is the best phone I've ever had. No problems at all......I'm coming from the Droid Incredible. Which was also best phone ever for me. Until now.
I love mine. I am on my second one due to a bad USB port but other than that its the best phone I've had.
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OP: I'm glad you like the sensation.
The majority of the new purchaser haters, are kind of 'weak newcomers to the Smartphone ' genre.
They have to appreciate that the majority of these phones have faults. None so bad as the secondary MT4G screen, and even then some, none so bad as the N1 touchscreen, with still patriotic N1 followers such as myself .
Edit: Pardon the noobs.
I love the phone too I switched from evo 3d sprints data is terrible. Yea I had with evo random spurts of 12mbps but majority of the time I got the weak 500kbps on sprints weak 3g. Yes I live in a 4g area but its so spotty. I go 1 mile and have 4g then don't have it then have it and don't have it. When it switches from 4g to 3g the phone lost data for 20 seconds. Not worth ot. With tmob I consistently get 7mbps down and 1.5 up. No loss of data and same buttery smooth ui. Yes buttery smooth without a live wallpaper I have no lag issue in sense 3.0. This phone is sexy and a monster of a phone.
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Now that my touchscreen is working, I say this is the best phone in the world
I just got mine over the weekend and love it so far. I came from a nexus one which was one of the best phones I ever had. Seems like it takes forever to charge though. Is that just me?
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I just got mine over the weekend and love it so far. I came from a nexus one which was one of the best phones I ever had. Seems like it takes forever to charge though. Is that just me?
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First one I had had a defect battery, took me a little 8 hours to charge(and about 4 hours with 2 hours display to completely drain). The one I have now charged in 5 hours before the FOTA, and somewhat around 4 hours after the FOTA. I also noticed that the battery of my first phone tended to get extremely hot, while this one gets a little warmer at well, but not at the battery but more at the bottom.
Also noticed change in batterylife, first phone as mentioned couldn't make it through the day, this one managed 20 on first charge-cycle, and now around 25 hours with medium use. (2,5 hours displaytime)
It would be a great phone, if they fixed the known issues. Luckily I don't have the touch screen issue, but I have death grip and lag. Death grip is hardware, and can only be fixed by a new back cover.
i love my phone's guts! and my 2 bff's who touched it loved it instantly and are selling their Desire and Galaxy to get this
Thanks to all for the POSITIVE feedback on the phone and to the OP for starting this. Yeah I guess most of us prefer to point out problems. I've had this phone on the radar for months now (since first announced) and as I'm due for an upgrade at the end of the month, I have been getting very nervous with all of the death grip, dust under screen, unresponsive screen posts etc. Since I definitely don't want to go the alternative duo core plastic route, it is good to see some positive experiences.
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it is good to see some positive experiences.
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you need to put what you read on the forums into perspective...though there are people from all over the world here, we are a very small cross-section of the market - the geeks, the ones who would see a teeny issue and freak the fck out because we want DA BEST!!!!11
so 50 people have a problem, i very much doubt htc gives a crap!
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I love the phone too I switched from evo 3d sprints data is terrible. Yea I had with evo random spurts of 12mbps but majority of the time I got the weak 500kbps on sprints weak 3g. Yes I live in a 4g area but its so spotty. I go 1 mile and have 4g then don't have it then have it and don't have it. When it switches from 4g to 3g the phone lost data for 20 seconds. Not worth ot. With tmob I consistently get 7mbps down and 1.5 up. No loss of data and same buttery smooth ui. Yes buttery smooth without a live wallpaper I have no lag issue in sense 3.0. This phone is sexy and a monster of a phone.
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This was my experience with Sprint too, and the main reason I didn't go with the Evo 3D. Sprint signal at my house is one bar on a good day, and every Sprint phone I've ever had has had problems just *connecting* to data. I had a Touch Pro 2 before I got my HD2 & I had to toggle airplane mode practically every few hours just to get the damn data to connect. I have full signal & full 4G with T-Mo, no data problems, and my speed is about 6-8mbps on a BAD day(and I've gotten up to 14 at times!).
Yes, this phone has it's share of problems but what phone doesn't? People will ***** about a negative before they gush about a positive, don't think that the Sensation is a POS because some people don't like it(which, IMO, user error/inexperience with smartphones in general is a big cause of). I absolutely love it. Great battery life, great sound, great screen, great speed, FANTASTIC camera, etc. It's a winner in my book.
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you need to put what you read on the forums into perspective...though there are people from all over the world here, we are a very small cross-section of the market - the geeks, the ones who would see a teeny issue and freak the fck out because we want DA BEST!!!!11
so 50 people have a problem, i very much doubt htc gives a crap!
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This is true. I doubt the average consumer is worried about having an AUO or a Sharp panel, haha.
I love this phone! I'm coming from the tp2. I have the creek problem with the bottom right of my screen but honestly it doesnt bother me. I love the keyboard that it comes with and coming from the wonderful hardware keyboard on the tp2 I was a little worried about going all touchscreen but I've had no problems with it! Truely an amazing phone!
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Every problem I had with my prior Sensations is gone now except for Sense reloads but I never see that from LauncherPro. Battery life is craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy on this new one! I go all day without recharging now. I can't even believe it. Used it all day yesterday and still had 37% 20 hours later. Took it off the charger today. Didn't use it for 8 hours and still at 100% even while receiving texts and emails. 13 hours later and some usage photos, G+, etc and 86%. Both other phones would have been dead by now.
I have an AUO panel now and it's great. I prefer the Sharp I had originally because the viewing angles seemed better.
Camera is fantastic with sharpness and saturation turned down.
Only probs I have are with Sense 3. Biggest bother is built in apps2sd feature telling me I dont have space on my sd card if i try to move more than a few at the same time. I don't really care much though. I have 90 something apps installed and 870mb free.
Almost forgot - my speaker is either a different component than the others or something. Maybe the default hardware settings are modified. Sounds much better than on the units I had to return. Don't have to use Volume+ at all.
First time writing here... hi all!
I've been reading these forums for month at least...checking SGS2 and Sensation. With all those troublesome posts I decided to bite the bullet and get myself HTC Sensation. Been using it for 2 days now and everything is working absolutely perfect, smooth and fast! No dust under screen, working flawless while unlocking in every possible situation (on the desk, on the floor, while charging, in my hands), no death grip no matter how hard i try though i can fell some small glitches while typing an sms or a message (maybe it's my sweaty fingers...it's horribly hot here)...but that's about it.
I asked the guy who sold me a phone if people are returning phones with anomalies or bad stuff happening but he answered (like we can believe that ) that they didnt have any of those big issues mentioned here. Guess we are lucky in Croatia
Not sure if phones were manufactured much precisely in the last weeks but this is really a fresh looking phone. Although I must mention there was no WOOOOOW factor as when I bought Desire last year (Maybe cos it was my first Android ).
Nevertheless I'm enjoying the phone and so far I'm glad that I didn't take SGS2 (didn't really fit in my hand, although it's faster and I'm not into gaming).
That's about it...good luck with your phone, it's a nice piece of hardware!

How is this phone?

So I'm getting a new phone. Right now I have a Cliq 2, but I'm getting a new one in the next week.
Right now I'm trying to decide between this, the G2x, or the GSII. I would say the Amaze, but I've heard bad things about it.
I'm not trying to get you guys to tell me why I should get this phone over the others, I'd just like to know what this phone is like. What are the ups? The downs? How's the phones radio? Custom ROMs? Battery life? And anything else you feel might be good to know before I make a decision.
Thanks!
Well I would scratch off the G2x right off the bat and as for the other two? There is a thread about the GS2 and the Sensation a little ways down if you want to find it.
What did you heart bad about the Amaze? I see others jumping to that from this phone.
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masondoctorjt said:
What did you heart bad about the Amaze? I see others jumping to that from this phone.
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Yeah..they jump because its being offer by their provider due to issue having with out senny . Not because its owesome!! Lol
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masondoctorjt said:
What did you heart bad about the Amaze? I see others jumping to that from this phone.
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Yeah, I've heard that it's the phone the sensation was supposed to be, but apparently it's got awful battery life and a very small development community.
Nothing to bad, but if this phone is almost exactly like the Amaze, I'd rather go with this, because it's cheaper
Honestly just go look at the amaze forum. As far as I can see it isn't even fully rooted yet. I am happy with my sensation.. yes... Will I switch to a better phone the first chance I get... Yes... The t-mobile sg2 has almost the same hardware and really we still have the best phone they offer. Is the regular sg2 more powerful.. yes, but in reality there are a lot of things better with the sensation. It's all opinion though.. is the dev dead here.. no not really. We have superior sense development continuing on a daily basis here. The aosp dev is crawling because no code release from cm7. Ics is slower to dev on this phone definitely and noone has a good reason why. Personally I am satisfied with the sensation... Am I looking for the next thing I can afford and get... Yeah I am
Edit: And o yeah just x out the G2x its in a different league now in comparison
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Haha yea the Amaze. Xboarder is doing a commendable job trying to keep the dev community alive over there, but TBH it looks pretty slow over there. I think it's just him, Mike, NRG and ComputerKid holding down the fort. Faux might have dabbled in an Amaze kernel, but that's more or less it. It's too bad though. Seems like pretty nice hardware. Too bad it's US exclusive (I think?) so the dev community will remain small on that side of the fence.
Anyway, to the original question. Off the top of my head:
Sensation ups:
Relatively inexpensive now
Nice screen
Good dev community, kind of slow on ROMs lately but there isn't much else to do until ICS. Our kernel devs however are still very active.
Pretty snappy once you rid yourself of the stock rom/kernel
Official ICS is coming early next year per HTC
Sensation downs:
Wifi deathgrip when holding the phone in landscape (this one really sucks)
Reports of dust getting under the screen near the volume rocker (get a case that covers the volume rocker!)
Cell antenna is integrated into the removable back cover
Terrible battery life
Terrible speaker and low volume
CM7 never made it out of alpha stage
No true AOSP ROMs available for the speed freaks
You should probably ask this same question in the SGS2 forum.
Having just bought a sensation myself, I'm a little biased. Having said that, I'd stay far away from the g2x, I researched for weeks before deciding on a sensation and there are a LOT of people with a LOT of problems with the LG phone. I personally don't like the tmo version of the GS2, too big with a low res screen. I really like my sensation so far but I've only had it a single day.
Any of these will be a major step up from the cliq2 though, so I'd say read the forums and go with the one that suits you best.
There are rumours that Telstra (Australia) might be releasing the Amaze as their flagship 4G device.
That might help dev movement a little.
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my inputs on sensation:
Pros:
screen, speed, build quality, touchscreen responsiveness, Good ROM options on XDA
, excellent sound quality via headphone, nice camera (for both stills and movie)
Cons:
Bad speaker volume, Battery (Can be improved with aftermarket one like Anker), Poor cellular reception, wifi death grip
I have also used SGS2 of my friend and LG optimus one, both get more cellular signal bars than sensaion. Even my old BB curve has better reception for both cellular and wifi.
HTC Sensation 4G- price-performance ratio: Ok
abachhan75 said:
my inputs on sensation:
Pros:
screen, speed, build quality, touchscreen responsiveness, Good ROM options on XDA
, excellent sound quality via headphone, nice camera (for both stills and movie)
Cons:
Bad speaker volume, Battery (Can be improved with aftermarket one like Anker), Poor cellular reception, wifi death grip
I have also used SGS2 of my friend and LG optimus one, both get more cellular signal bars than sensaion. Even my old BB curve has better reception for both cellular and wifi.
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That's not quite my opinion!
I'm using the Sensation since April and I'm actually satisfied by using this phone! I have installed a custom ROM with other Kernel (CM7.1 based on Bricked AOSP v1.4ondemand_p1984)without Sense and without any HTC or Provider Apps. Everything nice to use!
But!!!
It might be better in terms of so many things!!
Positive:
It have the perfect size and form for a mobile phone- nice to handle, right size of display to manage and watch movies, have a very good camera with LED spots, it's excellent to listen to music over headphones, etc.
Everything perfect, you think!?
Negative:
you have to hold it with two fingers to get no restriction by receiving mobile networks or wifi, bad battery performance with standard ROM, high heat production while charging or using internet (3g or wifi), RAM and internal memory could be some more, the overall quality of housing and little parts (the materials of Samsung phones or especially Apple iPhones looks and feels better, "more expensive")
Summarized:
nice smartphone for beginner! relatively low price! lots of ROM's!
could have!
no must have!!!
But I also think, that the other smartphone manufacturers similar problems have!
So HTC is on a good way, I think!
The amaze is a way better phone then the sensation I just changed to it from the sensation, there isn't many devs but its further then the sensation was at this same time since release the unlock of the bootloader still lets you flash whatever you want and the battery life for me is better, I'm running sense nrgz28s rom its way faster then my sensation ever was, camera is way better front and back and storage space is better, more development will come to it and since HTC will be updating to ics this will be a better phone since it has nfc support as well I'd go for the amaze its also not a us exclusive wind mobile and telus carry it too I believe outside the us. IMO the only other comparable phone is the gs2 but I can't stand lower resolution aftee qhd
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I used to have the g2x but got sick of the random shut downs, tmobile replaced my g2x twice and I finally gave up on it. I have the sensation now and am pretty happy with it. The screen is a little bigger and much clearer than G2X. My only complaint is the speakerphone is very weak. Volume is too low to hear if in a crowded/loud area even on highest level. There's lots of great roms and support for this phone. I personally like hypersensation for it's minimalist feature set. Don't have any experience with the SGII but my sister has it and has been having some problems with it so it might be a few updates away from being perfect. The sensation has been out for a while now so most of the kinks have been worked out already. I get about 8 hours of pretty heavy use out of it on a single charge with an upgraded battery (more than a day with light use). I would recommend it.
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That's not quite my opinion!
(the materials of Samsung phones or especially Apple iPhones looks and feels better, "more expensive")
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Did he really just say that Samsung materials and feel of the phone is more expensive feeling than an HTC?
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Having just bought a sensation myself, I'm a little biased. Having said that, I'd stay far away from the g2x, I researched for weeks before deciding on a sensation and there are a LOT of people with a LOT of problems with the LG phone. I personally don't like the tmo version of the GS2, too big with a low res screen. I really like my sensation so far but I've only had it a single day.
Any of these will be a major step up from the cliq2 though, so I'd say read the forums and go with the one that suits you best.
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Problems with an LG phone!? Never!
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KadaverHTCS said:
That's not quite my opinion!
I'm using the Sensation since April and I'm actually satisfied by using this phone! I have installed a custom ROM with other Kernel (CM7.1 based on Bricked AOSP v1.4ondemand_p1984)without Sense and without any HTC or Provider Apps. Everything nice to use!
But!!!
It might be better in terms of so many things!!
Positive:
It have the perfect size and form for a mobile phone- nice to handle, right size of display to manage and watch movies, have a very good camera with LED spots, it's excellent to listen to music over headphones, etc.
Everything perfect, you think!?
Negative:
you have to hold it with two fingers to get no restriction by receiving mobile networks or wifi, bad battery performance with standard ROM, high heat production while charging or using internet (3g or wifi), RAM and internal memory could be some more, the overall quality of housing and little parts (the materials of Samsung phones or especially Apple iPhones looks and feels better, "more expensive")
Summarized:
nice smartphone for beginner! relatively low price! lots of ROM's!
could have!
no must have!!!
But I also think, that the other smartphone manufacturers similar problems have!
So HTC is on a good way, I think!
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But the iPhone is glass so dropping it usually means a shatter, and the GSII is plastic, along with most Samsung's, so they tend to feel cheap.

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