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So, I've had my sensation for a week, it was nearly perfect. But I wasn't sure that it was the best unit, cause battery was used fairly quick, GPS kinda weak, and a slightly washed out screen. I took the 14 day advantage I had at Walmart, and just today headed out there after work to grab the last unit they had! I called like 5 diff. walmarts but only that one had one unit.
Even the box was in such pristine condition, compared to the one I bought earlier, even though both were new. The first box had a date of 5/27. This new one has 6/3, so I'm hoping the June units might be better. Both Taiwanese. I haven't even opened my new Sensation yet, feel excited all over again
Anyways, to come to the point, how did you all start using you new phone, did you just take it out, turn it on, and use it? Or kept it off, charged it all the way, then use it? The reason I'm asking is cause the first one I had, I kept it off and charged it all the way. During that process, the phone got extremely hot towards the bottom, I mean hot like I've never ever seen in any phone before. And it pretty much stayed that way for atleast 2 hours straight. I'm thinking that I maybe messed up the battery up, cause too much heat can damage them. What do you guys think?
Edit: Another thing on my previous phone: the battery gauge was wacky. I would use if for hours and it would stay at 100. Then suddenly show like 85 or something.
usually I will leave it off and charge it fully before using it. This time I turned it on right away, let it drain then charged it fully while off. I've only had my sensation less than a week so really cant ccomment on battery life. When you first get a phone though battery life will be worse because you play with it tons when you first get it
Charged it before turning on & it never got hot
Yeah, mines seemed like a fluke, I've never had a phone do that before. This time, I'm thinking that I'll prolly turn it on before charging just to be safe.
My first two, I did. This one I used right away and today it's been unplugged for 11 hours and I'm still at 47%
I play with it until it fully dies, then I let it charge all the way; for the batteries sake. It last much longer that way.
I couldn't wait for it to charge completely.
I wasnt even out of the T-Mobile parking lot before I had my sim card in it and was messing with it lol.
Could you please tell us how your new phone is? I'll update my post when I check my box for the date but my battery does heat up and my power button is the slanted one.
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also what panel is it?
EmceeGeek said:
I play with it until it fully dies, then I let it charge all the way; for the batteries sake. It last much longer that way.
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Exactly....that's what most all manufactures recommend. I didn't notice it in the Sensation's manual, but I know I saw it in my G2X's manual.
For the last 5-6 devices I've had, I always run it dead from the box, then let it fully charge to 100%. As far as I can tell that really does help either calibrate the driver or condition the battery. I also do that pretty much every time its convenient.
I've never just charged it straight from the box.
I've always had great great battery life, under heavy use, for every phone I've had using that method.
I really don't know how important it is, but I know I've never had any of the battery issues that it seems many have with various devices.
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Exactly....that's what most all manufactures recommend. I didn't notice it in the Sensation's manual, but I know I saw it in my G2X's manual.
For the last 5-6 devices I've had, I always run it dead from the box, then let it fully charge to 100%. As far as I can tell that really does help either calibrate the driver or condition the battery. I also do that pretty much every time its convenient.
I've never just charged it straight from the box.
I've always had great great battery life, under heavy use, for every phone I've had using that method.
I really don't know how important it is, but I know I've never had any of the battery issues that it seems many have with various devices.
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Great advice, however I wanted to ask you that when you charged it back to 100% the first time, did you keep the phone off all the way? Also, did you perform any kind of a hard reset on it, and if you did, at what point?
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Could you please tell us how your new phone is? I'll update my post when I check my box for the date but my battery does heat up and my power button is the slanted one.
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I will surely report that info as well as panel info tomorrow after 7PM, as its late, and I havent opened the box yet. I was still trying to figure out the best way to start using the phone, as I didnt want to repeat the mistake I made last time.
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Great advice, however I wanted to ask you that when you charged it back to 100% the first time, did you keep the phone off all the way? Also, did you perform any kind of a hard reset on it, and if you did, at what point?
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No, I let it die...plug it back in, turn it on.
Some people do factory resets out of the box....I never have (out of the box)...
I get easily a full day, 14-16 hours, with consistent use. WiFi always on, gps on when needed, tons of web activity, light gaming, 100+ texts, dozen or so calls. That's pretty normal.
The Sensation seems to go from full to 90% in a hurry, but then really levels off. No idea why, but it's undeniable with mine. Also, this phone is by far the best I've ever owned when it comes to idle power consumption. I'll regularly leave it unplugged while asleep and it might go down 5% at most.
That's my experience.....hope it helps.
Hoggles, thx so much for your insight. So after reading quite a few pages on other forums, especially the IPhone ones, I think I'm gonna fire it up and drain it & then charge it fully while its off. Now the only thing to figure out is when to factory reset the phone, as soon as I first turn it on, or after it has fully charged? Also, when fully charged, is it best to unplug it and then start it, or start phone while plugged in, and then remove the power cable once it comes up?
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Hoggles, thx so much for your insight. So after reading quite a few pages on other forums, especially the IPhone ones, I think I'm gonna fire it up and drain it & then charge it fully while its off. Now the only thing to figure out is when to factory reset the phone, as soon as I first turn it on, or after it has fully charged? Also, when fully charged, is it best to unplug it and then start it, or start phone while plugged in, and then remove the power cable once it comes up?
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I really don't think ya have to get that nit picky...as far as when or how to unplug.
Pretty simple and hard to go wrong....
Out of the box....use it til it shuts off on its own
Plug it in....
Turn it on if ya need to receive calls etc...
Let it charge to 100%...
You're Golden
Repeat whenever you have the time...once, twice a month works for me.
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Hoggles, thx so much for your insight. So after reading quite a few pages on other forums, especially the IPhone ones, I think I'm gonna fire it up and drain it & then charge it fully while its off. Now the only thing to figure out is when to factory reset the phone, as soon as I first turn it on, or after it has fully charged? Also, when fully charged, is it best to unplug it and then start it, or start phone while plugged in, and then remove the power cable once it comes up?
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I'm also use it out of the box until its battery drain and warning indication come out. Then I charge my battery.
I facing a weird condition during charging, where its goes up to 80 or 90% fast, but then to reach 100% very slow. It took 3.5 to 4 hours for my phone to reach 100%!!. I already use my phone for 15 days.
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I play with it until it fully dies, then I let it charge all the way; for the batteries sake. It last much longer that way.
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This is the "proper" way to condition a Li-Ion Battery. it's best for the battery life during every day use and into the long term. Ideally you should use it until it get's down to about 2-3% then charge fully, and repeat at least 2-3 more times. Your battery will thank you for it.
I had started to think that this tried and true method was NOT working on my sensation and then today, almost one week precisely after I'd gotten it I saw a huge, noticeable difference in battery life over the first 3-4 days.
Condition your batteries people! You and your phones will thank you for it!
I got the phone at Walmart the first day it came out and used it then charged it all the way.
Phone got very hot and I can not get it to last more than 6hrs on a charge no matter what I try.
(No GPS No WiFi No extra apps......you get the point)
Trying to return the phone to Walmart but they don't have any.
Something is definitely off her but I don't know if it's the phone or the battery.
My phone has been acting really weird the last few day. I had [ROM][MTD]CyanogenMod 9.0.0-rc2 UNOFFICIAL by TeamAcid[R5][Jul-20-2012 installed on my phone. But it would crash all of the time. Afterwards when the phone rebooted the battery would go from 100% to 9%. If I dont boot the phone back up right after a crash and wait a little while. When I boot it up the battery will be around 40-45%. I used [Heimdall][One-Click] The T959V Heimdall One-Click Collection [05/20/2012] earlier today, Just to see if I continued to have the battery problem. I only had the phone crash once while on the stock rom, and the battery did drain about 50% but I also started having a problem where I would lose my data connection all together. Rebooting the phone brought it back, only to lose it again after around 30min to 1hr. It has not crashed for about 3hrs now and I have not lost my data connection either. Anyone have any ideas what might be going on here? I tried deleting the battery stats with the battery at 100% before going back to stock but that did not seem to help at all. I downloaded a batter calibrator from the market place and tried that as well. Used it when the battery was at 100%. None of this has worked. Now that im back on the stock rom its only crashed once, but the battery did still drain. Any ideas? I would really like to go back to CyanogenMod 9 but its not worth it if the phone continuously crashes and kills the battery. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Try Gremlins Remover.
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So you don't waste any more time, "battery calibration" is snake oil, lithium ion batteries don't need "conditioning" (and actually suffer from both high temperatures and deep discharge cycles), but the moon is made of cheese. Ok, at least the first two are true.
As you're having problems with one of the most stable and reliable GB ROMs for this phone, I suspect that you may have one or more of:
Bad battery
Bad user-land applications
Corrupt application data
Corrupt media data (for example, music on your microSD)
Bad phone
Bad luck
A "start over" approach with a complete clean-out either using the above-mentioned one-click, or doing the equivalent by hand (wiping all partitions, flashing stock, starting with a fresh microSD), then seeing how the phone/battery behaves without any apps would be the path I would take. If it passed that, I'd slowly start adding back apps, and only restoring data/preferences where you really need them.
Im doing the gremlin remover right now. I will let you guys know how to goes. Thanks for the advise, this has been driving me crazy.
Tried the gremlin remover last night and played with my phone today. Its still crashing and then when I boot it up back the battery is pretty much dead... I think i have a bad battery. Never had these problems with the phone before. Thanks for the help guys. I guess Ill get a new battery and see if that fixes the problem.
I have this EXACT same problem. I'm on AOKP and the battery with go from having a decent charge and die. Then if I take the batt out, hold the power button for 15 secs and let the phone sit with no batt for 10 minutes or so, the phone will go back to around 50% batt life. After gremlin remover and Bryan's one click back to stock multiple times, I've finally come to the conclusion that I need a new battery.
I ordered a new battery today. I will let you know how it goes.
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Mine does the same thing... doesn't really crash often.. once in a blue moon. But if I reboot. . I get that instant battery drain ...GR didn't fix it.... I just attribute it to ageing battery.
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So I looked I to this issue more. For anyone having this problem, remove the battery and place it on a hard flat surface to see if it has swollen any, if it has then the battery is defective. My battery actually rocks a little. I could actually tell it had swollen before I even put it on my desk.
That is only for seeing whether a cell has busted. It is normal wear and tear. That is kind of like how u lose battery life after hundreds of cycles because it is just how the current li-ion battery technologies work.
I would download the one click and also reflash boot loaders and repartition your device.
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Tried that, even with bootloaders. OP also stated they used gremlin remover as well. As we we're both having the exact same problem, I was giving him a better solution that wasn't the standard "reflash, repartition, etc."
I finally got my new battery in. And all is well now. Thanks everyone for the advice and help
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thats crazy swapping you battery worked. lol, mine does it too. not so much the crashing just a simple reboot and it will be drop down from 70% to 1%. This was doing the same thing with my phone before my charging port got busted. So i had to swap out the guts from my old galaxy s with broken screen. When i put the new internals in i started with bh's one click back to stock and flashed antonx kernal. Then flashed cm9 and it still does it. i will try a new battery as well.
My thought (AFTER being solved)
Well, I don't mean to come off as rude, but come on guys! I've had this problem for a while, and as soon as it happened I knew I needed a new battery. On top of my phone being somewhat "old", the fact we all play around with it so much, and do so many battery pulls most likely does NOT help the matter. At least I screw around with my phone and try out many ROMs...
But I'm glad I have confirmation that a battery swap will do the trick. It sucks that stores don't carry the t959v battery anymore... Guess I'll be ordering online tonight.
for a few weeks, my one s battery cant pass through 2-2.5 hours of screen time although it used to be something like 4 hours.
i tried to full reset, didnt help.
even noticed that games are lagging, like music hero and subway surfers to the point it can fail me.
most of the time the screen brighness set on 30%, wifi mostly off, gps off, sync off. only 3g is on.
i got s4 version running 2.21 software stock locked unrotted nothing.
as it is from the manufacture.
i dont use alot of apps, mostly basic ones like whatsapp chrome shazam and few more.
i dont think its some bad app which draning my batt, also the phone is 2 month old.
all this time, the phone didnt do any problems but 2 days ago for the first time after unlock the screen phone had restart.
could it be that after 2 months my battery is dying?
If you say that games are lagging there could be something draining your cpu... This could also explain the battery drain.
In the battery stats, what app/task is draining most?
Well, screen by far... No special app drains..
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Well, screen by far... No special app drains..
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Try turning down your screen brightness.
If it's really bad I'd try a reset
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BetterBatteryStats and Carat. Take a BBS dump after a day's use and you should see what's causing major issues. Carat will take care of anything else after a few weeks by showing you what apps are using serious battery power.
it is unlikely that she dies. What radio are you using?
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Why dont you install a Custom ROM for testing if this problem still shows up ? Like someone mentioned above something is fu*** up your CPU for some reason and this is the reason why your battery is going down very fast.
Some questions:
- Do you run any "battery saver" or any other app in the background (except Facebook,WhatsApp,GMail,..)
- Do you charge your battery from totally 0% (when your phone doesnt boot anymore) to full 100% ? It could be a battery de-calibration but this not really explains your lagging problems
i dont want a custom rom because i still want my warranty.
i dont run any battery saver app in background.
i charged the phone from 0 to 100 few weeks ago.
for 2 days im trying to be on gsm only and its seems battery have been improved by almost an hour.
there are less lags in games also and the device is feeling faster.
could be a radio problem?
i have full reception most of the time.
maybe the diztronic skin interrupting radio or something?
in few days carat will give me a report and ill see what he suggest.
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i dont want a custom rom because i still want my warranty.
i dont run any battery saver app in background.
i charged the phone from 0 to 100 few weeks ago.
for 2 days im trying to be on gsm only and its seems battery have been improved by almost an hour.
there are less lags in games also and the device is feeling faster.
could be a radio problem?
i have full reception most of the time.
maybe the diztronic skin interrupting radio or something?
in few days carat will give me a report and ill see what he suggest.
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I understand your argument but if you follow the guides step by step you will succeed. Even if you fail,you still have multiple ways to recover your phone. My broadband chip was broken and i lost my IMEI (Galaxy S1) and i had a custom ROM installed and the support still repaired it.
Maybe you need to calibrate your battery. If you only charged it once it doenst really helps.
Dont know,maybe it could be a radio problem.
You have a skin installed? If you rooted your device the warranty still could be gone.
i dont want to root the device cuz of warrenty.
i have diztronic case from amazon.
and i heared recharging the battery from 0-100 could harm your battery for long term and shorten the battery life.
pookipsy said:
i dont want to root the device cuz of warrenty.
i have diztronic case from amazon.
and i heared recharging the battery from 0-100 could harm your battery for long term and shorten the battery life.
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No. I don't know where you got that from but It's crap. It doesn't harm your battery, in fact it is better than charging from 60%.
GSM only does NOT affect gameplay. Maybe battery, but not gameplay. Somehow I think you're trolling everyone.
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im not trolling, i love this phone and really wondered maybe i did something wrong with it..
gsm only shouldnt affect games but maybe its affecting something else which affect games.
maybe its a software issue or drivers.
Guys, stop being idiotic. "Battery calibration" might as well be telling the person to charge the phone while hopping on one foot and rubbing his other.
It's quite simple. Post screenshots of the top of the list for partial wakelock, process, and kernel wakelock. This will help diagnose battery drain problems. Carat will slowly build a list of battery drainers that you can also use to identify issues.
And please make sure you're not using any task killers or similar apps as they cause more harm than good and are big no-no's on Android.
Speaking of Custom ROMs, I'm not sure what the rules are where you live, but where I live, unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty, so flashing custom ROMs is perfectly safe, just make sure to make a backup first.
And yes, battery calibration is not possible, as these batteries doesn't have any "memory".
Where i live the warranty void sadly.
Im still waiting for carat report but for this moment, using gsm only + wifi instead of auto wcdma/gsm, seems to make my battery life normal - almost 4 hours screen time.
Hey all,
About three weeks ago I had a strange problem. I noticed that in two straight charge cycles, my battery life plummeted from about 80% to zero in just a few hours. I'm not sure what the issue was. I hadn't changed settings, installed new apps, etc. My first screenshot shows an example of what happened. 4G and data were off during the entire time.
Since then, things have been okay. I typically get 3 days standby with 4G on and light use, or 4 days with 4G off. That's mostly standby with maybe an hour or so of talking and minimal use.
After those strange battery plummets, I installed and used GSam Battery Monitor to get more details about what processes were running on my phone in case I noticed the sharp drop happening again. Everything had been fine for over two weeks, with me getting expected battery life before this issue and not experiencing any odd, sudden drops (maybe 5 or 6 charge cycles). This lends me to conclude that my battery's charge capacity is okay, and calibration also shouldn't be an issue.
However, the problem arose once again a couple days ago. Went from 75% to nothing in just a few hours. 4G was off during that time. The third and fourth screenshots show the same issue. Charged my phone, and this morning the same thing happened yet again. At about 90% the plummet began, and within an hour or so I was at 75%. At this point I took screenshots of Android's battery status, and I also did the same for GSam to show what apps and processes were running. The phone's temperature seemed fine.
The GSam screenshots taken when the phone was at 75% and dropping are in the next post, since I'm limited to four images in this one. I have no idea what's causing this massive, sudden battery drain. The only thing I can think of is that I've done Verizon's OTA updates, but otherwise pretty much all my settings, apps, and usage are the same. Plus, for two weeks I had normal battery behavior, so I'm completely baffled.
I also know that cell standby is incorrectly reported in the GS3 battery screen, and I'm getting a good signal where I live so that shouldn't be a problem. I forgot to get screen time for the first case (first two images), but it shouldn't be more than 10-15 min there since most of the charge was lost due to the freak plummet.
If anyone may have an idea of what's going on, or if there are some tools/tests I may use to figure this out, I'd really appreciate it. I turned off my phone after taking the screenshots at 75%, so if I need to turn it on and check something for you I can probably do that. Thanks a lot.
FYI, here are GSam screenshots from when the battery was in the process of plummeting this morning.
i think you built in battery status settings are off. i barely get 12 hrs with medium use, so what i think it happens is that the battery monitor is not showing the proper discharge, and then all of a sudden it catches up to the discharge rate.
are you on stock rom, rooted, unlocked bootloader?
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i think you built in battery status settings are off. i barely get 12 hrs with medium use, so what i think it happens is that the battery monitor is not showing the proper discharge, and then all of a sudden it catches up to the discharge rate.
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I am stock rom. No rooting, no unlocking.
These plunges are definitely an anomaly. Truly, with me barely using the phone and turning off mobile data, I get a few days of standby. I've had the phone since July, and the aberration in battery behavior has been the steep plunges I've shown.
In between these instance of steep plunges, I've had normal use. I really don't think it's an issue of calibration. Please believe me when I say that my normal, light use during the past four months gets me anywhere from 3-5 days with me barely using the phone. When I say barely using it, I mean not even touching it for an entire day if nobody calls me. But now, a sudden plunge in battery life is happening at 80% with no apparent reason.
I think it might be some kind of software or hardware glitch, but it's impossible for this to be normal given the battery life I typically get. Just looking at that steep drop, it's crazy and just happens out of nowhere.
But please trust me when I say that these sudden plunges that have happened a total of 4 or 5 times, causing the battery to drain completely in a few hours when I'm not touching it, are quite a drastic aberration from the normal standby life I get. Something is definitely wrong here, I just don't know what.
And one more thing to add is that after this sudden plunge and rapid drain, charging the battery still takes the normal time it does when I'm not having this issue. That is, about 2.5-3 hours to reach a full charge (and I charge with the phone 'off'). The battery is being completely drained. But this happened twice, then didn't happen for maybe 5-6 charge cycles, then happened again twice.
Before the first instance, I remember an OTA Verizon update around 10/5. My phone was okay for 2-3 charge cycles after that. Then two rapid drains. Then 5-6 normal cycles. Then two more rapid drains. There was a second Verizon OTA update somewhere in there but I can't remember.
and you said it only started once you did the OTA update from verizon right? well you could either try to go back to the stock verizon rom pre-update and see what happens there, or contact verizon and let them know what happens with the new OTA update. they could replace your phone, or it could be a bug of the new OTA update. i am on stock rom and rooted and deleted the apk that kept on trying to push the update. just unlocked by bootloader and so far my battery life has improved compared to previous locked bootloader.
i would take it to a verizon store and show them. They might give you a new battery.
I may have to do that. I'm just not really sure what the issue is.
- The battery can still hold a full charge.
- Based on running services, nothing is causing high CPU usage.
- The sudden plummet almost seems kind of random.
- Since there have been normal charge cycles, it's not an issue of calibration.
I'm not sure if this is a hardware issue or software issue. I'm trying to wrap my brain around what could cause the battery to drain so suddenly and sharply. Could the charge somehow be "leaking"? But in that case I'd expect it to happen all the time. If there's an underlying software issue, is there any other tool I might be able to use to figure it out?
Does the phone get hot?
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Does the phone get hot?
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Not from what I can tell. Note that the first couple plummet drains were overnight.
But today I caught it before noon. The phone wasn't hot, and the GSam screenshots show no CPU stress.
Maybe you can do a factory reset and se if that helps. They will probably do one if you bring it to verizon anyways. It sure sound like a hardware problem. You'd think if the processors are working that hard that the phone would get hot, I know mine gets pretty hot sometimes under heavy use.
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Thing is, all indications show the CPU isn't working hard, and the phone wasn't hot.
I'm stumped.
This is a noobish question, but I presume the only way to go back to stock is to factory reset? One thing I might wait for is the Jelly Bean update, presuming this random drain holds off until then.
But yea, I dread going into VZW because they're just going to try to pass this off onto me doing something wrong, or me not knowing how to calibrate the battery, etc. The information I've provided in my OP and in the screenshots would fly over their heads. Maybe I can just do an online chat and tell VZ to send me another battery?
The only other thing I can think of is that sometime before these plummets happened, I went online to MyVerizon and turned off the Backup Assistant for movies/music/etc. so I wouldn't get all those notifications. I don't think this could be the issue, since the plummet happens when data is off. Plus, GSam would show that Backup Assistant is hogging the CPU or forcing a signal.
I doubt swapping batteries will fix it, though. I'm thinking my internal hardware might have a serious problem.
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Thing is, all indications show the CPU isn't working hard, and the phone wasn't hot.
I'm stumped.
This is a noobish question, but I presume the only way to go back to stock is to factory reset? One thing I might wait for is the Jelly Bean update, presuming this random drain holds off until then.
But yea, I dread going into VZW because they're just going to try to pass this off onto me doing something wrong, or me not knowing how to calibrate the battery, etc. The information I've provided in my OP and in the screenshots would fly over their heads. Maybe I can just do an online chat and tell VZ to send me another battery?
The only other thing I can think of is that sometime before these plummets happened, I went online to MyVerizon and turned off the Backup Assistant for movies/music/etc. so I wouldn't get all those notifications. I don't think this could be the issue, since the plummet happens when data is off. Plus, GSam would show that Backup Assistant is hogging the CPU or forcing a signal.
I doubt swapping batteries will fix it, though. I'm thinking my internal hardware might have a serious problem.
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Before the update, was everything normal?
Is the update with the HE base/baseband?
It probably isn't a hardware problem, just a bad base.
I've noticed after updating my GS3 to the HE base and the battery life was just horrid.
It's said that the new HE baseband uses up more battery also
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Before the update, was everything normal?
Is the update with the HE base/baseband?
It probably isn't a hardware problem, just a bad base.
I've noticed after updating my GS3 to the HE base and the battery life was just horrid.
It's said that the new HE baseband uses up more battery also
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Sorry, I don't know what you mean by "HE" base/baseband.
But yea, this problem didn't come up until after an OTA update.
Check your baseband version under Settings -> About and paste it here
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It's I535VRLHE
Kernel version: 3.0.8-1092717
Build number IMM76D.I535VRALHE
I turned on the phone and within 10 min or so the battery life went down by 2-3% without me doing anything. As a test I've put it into Airplane mode, and it's decreased by about 2% in 45 min.
Now I'm wondering if I have a faulty antenna or something.
Yup ive had it drain 90% overnight many times for no reason. Called verizon and my new battery should be here today.
1+ day on battery and only 11 minutes of screen time?!?
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It's I535VRLHE
Kernel version: 3.0.8-1092717
Build number IMM76D.I535VRALHE
I turned on the phone and within 10 min or so the battery life went down by 2-3% without me doing anything. As a test I've put it into Airplane mode, and it's decreased by about 2% in 45 min.
Now I'm wondering if I have a faulty antenna or something.
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HE is the baseband version and the build number. For example I have: Android Version: 4.0.4
Baseband: I535VRLG7
Build: IM76D.I535VRALG7
which is the version before the update.
Like everybody else said, call Verizon or go to a store and let them know about the battery issues and they should send you a new one. Or even call Samsung and tell them you bought an S3 through Verizon and you are having battery hardware issues.
sonser said:
1+ day on battery and only 11 minutes of screen time?!?
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Well, no calls made or received during that time. No data being used.
So, wasn't really using the phone during that time...
Ive had my htc one x for maybe 5-6 months which is almost the longest ive ever been on one phone and i love(d) it, but its always been doing something very strange and aggravating that seems to be getting worse. Battery drain has always been a problem for me with this phone but ehh i can deal with it, but once my phone gets down to about 14% which is does often because of the draining it starts acting real funny with its power and sometimes goes from 14 down to 5 in an instant literally out of no where and as soon as i plug up itll go right back to 13, or itll shut down entirely at 14% but i can just cut it back on, or itll shut down in the middle of me doing something and i have to charge it for about 5-10 minutes before itll even come back on. The latter happened last night btw. No matter what combination of roms/kernels i try this always seems to be a problem. I really cant deal with this anymore and its to the point where i wanna throw my phone into a wall and just buy another one, which im seriously thinking about doing at this point. If such thing has happened to anyone before or you have insight on this can you please help before i just give up hope completely.
What you have described is normal for our device. Remember that the battery percentage is just an estimate of your actual charge. In addition, you find your phone shutting off around the lower percentages as a result of the device attempting to prevent damage to the battery. That is what the HOXl was designed to do.
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KungFuCracka94 said:
What you have described is normal for our device. Remember that the battery percentage is just an estimate of your actual charge. In addition, you find your phone shutting off around the lower percentages as a result of the device attempting to prevent damage to the battery. That is what the HOXl was designed to do.
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Last night when it did it, as it has before, i was still on 21%.... thats not normal. And this isnt my first android nor first htc, never happened before. Even on my aunts old one s it didnt happen
Do you allow full charges after these "forced shutdowns" occur? This should cause your battery to recalibrate.
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NexusS4gFreak said:
Last night when it did it, as it has before, i was still on 21%.... thats not normal. And this isnt my first android nor first htc, never happened before. Even on my aunts old one s it didnt happen
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The battery behavior on this phone has been interesting. I have the battery last over two weeks on airplane mode and I've had the battery last just a couple of hours with just a stock setup. There are so many factors that play into this. I work in an area with very little to no signal reception and my battery life goes crazy and the phone can get really hot while I'm there so I've seen the best and worst.
What I do to counteract this bad behavior:
1. Charge prior to 40% (I've had the phone go from 40% to zero instantly before)
2. Consider your signal reception and either try out different radios or use airplane mode to reduce erratic battery drain
3. Install a 3rd party app like batterycalibration (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en) and use that when things get hairy (I calibrate every two weeks or so and that does the trick for me.
My phone has been like this since I pulled it out of the box. With a little management, it is just fine. You have seen it before but I'll say it again, you have to get through a few charge cycles when flashing a new Rom to get back to normal.
Hope this helps. It works for me and I work in a cell phone reception hell.
NexusS4gFreak said:
Ive had my htc one x for maybe 5-6 months which is almost the longest ive ever been on one phone and i love(d) it, but its always been doing something very strange and aggravating that seems to be getting worse. Battery drain has always been a problem for me with this phone but ehh i can deal with it, but once my phone gets down to about 14% which is does often because of the draining it starts acting real funny with its power and sometimes goes from 14 down to 5 in an instant literally out of no where and as soon as i plug up itll go right back to 13, or itll shut down entirely at 14% but i can just cut it back on, or itll shut down in the middle of me doing something and i have to charge it for about 5-10 minutes before itll even come back on. The latter happened last night btw. No matter what combination of roms/kernels i try this always seems to be a problem. I really cant deal with this anymore and its to the point where i wanna throw my phone into a wall and just buy another one, which im seriously thinking about doing at this point. If such thing has happened to anyone before or you have insight on this can you please help before i just give up hope completely.
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When a new ROM or kernel is flashed you need to let battery settle for at least 48hrs before you get super worried about battery. If possible during that time let device fully discharge then charge up to 100. Please use a battery monitoring app and then see what's causing the issues. With proper config hoxl will get good battery life. There is always the chance its hardware issue but doubtful as battery prolly would of completely failed by now. Also check your screen brightness settings. Hope this helps
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Madcat8686 said:
The battery behavior on this phone has been interesting. I have the battery last over two weeks on airplane mode and I've had the battery last just a couple of hours with just a stock setup. There are so many factors that play into this. I work in an area with very little to no signal reception and my battery life goes crazy and the phone can get really hot while I'm there so I've seen the best and worst.
What I do to counteract this bad behavior:
1. Charge prior to 40% (I've had the phone go from 40% to zero instantly before)
2. Consider your signal reception and either try out different radios or use airplane mode to reduce erratic battery drain
3. Install a 3rd party app like batterycalibration (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en) and use that when things get hairy (I calibrate every two weeks or so and that does the trick for me.
My phone has been like this since I pulled it out of the box. With a little management, it is just fine. You have seen it before but I'll say it again, you have to get through a few charge cycles when flashing a new Rom to get back to normal.
Hope this helps. It works for me and I work in a cell phone reception hell.
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Ive done all three methods youve mentioned before and still same thing. Also im on 3/4 bars with lte 90% of the time so no reception issues here. And with my current setup ive been running it for about 2 weeks.
DESERT.TECH said:
When a new ROM or kernel is flashed you need to let battery settle for at least 48hrs before you get super worried about battery. If possible during that time let device fully discharge then charge up to 100. Please use a battery monitoring app and then see what's causing the issues. With proper config hoxl will get good battery life. There is always the chance its hardware issue but doubtful as battery prolly would of completely failed by now. Also check your screen brightness settings. Hope this helps
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Ive always let the rom settle in and i constantly maintain the brightness on around mid level (mirror screen protector so i cant go too low) but its not just one rom or a few, its with every rom i flash ad that consists of most roms available for this device
The battery behaviour you described is completely normal if you understand how a battery of this type works, and if you understand how the software (especially the display of battery percentage) works in conjunction with it.
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timmaaa said:
The battery behaviour you described is completely normal if you understand how a battery of this type works, and if you understand how the software (especially the display of battery percentage) works in conjunction with it.
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So youre telling me having the phone get to 22% and instantly drop to zero and power down is normal? Makes no sense at all. Also i cant get it to charge too 100% for anything. So if theres no fix to this, anybody want a one x with a troublesome battery?
What I'm saying is the battery percentage displayed by the software is never exact, it's only an estimate based on the voltage level of your battery. Your battery sounds like its long term life (capacity) has been decreased over time and possibly bad treatment (allowing the device to discharge too much too many times).
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NexusS4gFreak said:
So youre telling me having the phone get to 22% and instantly drop to zero and power down is normal? Makes no sense at all.
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Depends on what you define as "normal". Such behavior is certainly not unheard of (although you particular collection of symptoms may point to a more serious issue, which I'll get to later). Couple things you have to remember: the battery meter is far from accurate. Being off by 10% or more is not unusual (completely normal). So jumping from 5 to 13% as you mentioned is not out of the question. The battery voltage is not actually jumping around, just the % battery number that the phone is assigning to various voltage readings. Reading errors happen, and if a jump is noticed, its just the meter correcting itself.
Which brings us to the other point that should be kept in mind: the battery % is not a "real" measurement. Its just a number assigned to various voltages to give the average person a sense of how much battery is left. Its a completely fabricated and artificial measure that just gives some relative sense of when a user should charge their battery. Phone makers just decided to use a system that average people would understand, like the fuel gauge on a car. Zero doesn't really mean zero (or anywhere close), but reporting in voltages would make no sense for most folks. Also, as we all well know, just because (for example) it took you 12 hours to drain the phone to 50%, does not necessarily mean the phone will last another 12 hours to drain the remaining 50%. It all depends on what you are doing with the phone during that time. Which leaves the question: What does the % battery really mean? Really, not a heck of a lot.
On the other hand, the battery failing to charge to 100% is troublesome, as is the apparent frequency of the meter drops and the fact that the issue remains after various ROM flashes. Leads me to believe there may be some hardware issue going on.
The short answer: IMO while some of the individual symptoms are not unusual, the seeming frequency (you haven't exactly quantified this, but it seems relative frequent just based on your descriptions) may suggest a larger issue, but its not certain.
Thanks it explained a lot but it happened again today, went to the store with ~36% on the meter and walked out, haven't touched it at all, phone was completely dead. Tried to charge and it went to 6% and stopped charging, all signs showed it was charging but it was stuck on 6. Then it started climbing again and reached about 16% and actually started losing charge while on the charger. Switched over to my portable battery charger i just got and it held the charge at about 5% for ~30 minutes, which is what it was when i plugged it in and started to charge, then it stopped againand during the whole process the phone was getting very hot. Yea im getting a new phone :/