Related
battery is ALOT better without 4G. I came from an EVO and its the same thing...just keep it off and we'll be good. its not necessary to have it on at all times, especially when you're in areas where theres no 4g or on the edge of it and it keeps jumping from 1x-3g-4g. I know the dialing method is going around here but i found a better way...not exactly a "widget" but better than dialing.
Instructions
"1. Download an app from market (it is free) called Any Cut.
2. Once downloaded, run the app and Select New Shortcut.
3. Select Activity.
4. Scroll way down to Phone Info and select it.
5. Rename it to what you want it called and tap OK.
6. A new shortcut will be on your homescreen.
7. Go into the newly created shortcut and scroll down to Set Preffered network type:
For 3G only, select: CDMA auto (PRL)
To go back to 3G/4G select: CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto
Hit the back arrow...
Credit for the find goes to ThatDudeButch for this info.
Source : http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-thunderbolt/69957-poor-mans-4g-toggle.htm"
Huge thanks, been wanting to do this since I got it to preserve battery!
I recommend the an app called "Network" From Philipp Manelow.
Its a shortcut that takes you to the settings page to turn 4g on/off.
Just install and open.
All it does it make a shortcut.
Here is the link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=de.mangelow.network&feature=search_result
I actually think I get better 3g speeds with HTC phones than my moto phones. I rarely ever got over .75 down and .5 up. Now that I turned 4G off and tried it I get 1.5 down and about 1 up. With my TP2 I regularly got 1.25+. WIth the D2 I don't remember getting that much ever.
I've been using Quick Battery.
Thanks for the info! How much more time are you seeing now?
I did a combination...
Installed Network AND QuickBattery.
in quick battery, i selected quick action and pointed to the "Network" widget
So now i see a battery meter and if i press it i can go into the setting and turn on my 4g
or dial *#*#4636#*#*
Scroll down to select network type
CDMA = EDGE
EvDo = 3G
LTE = 4G
personally I have mine on LTE only ( live in Houston strong 4G network (D/L speeds constantly in midteens to low 20's Mbps ) and my battery isnt that bad.
1454 said:
I actually think I get better 3g speeds with HTC phones than my moto phones. I rarely ever got over .75 down and .5 up. Now that I turned 4G off and tried it I get 1.5 down and about 1 up. With my TP2 I regularly got 1.25+. WIth the D2 I don't remember getting that much ever.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol for me it makes me remember why I left verizon in the frist place. I maybe get .50 down at my house if I am lucky on 3g. My house is like an anti-cellphone but still with AT&T I was almost always at 1.5 down. But with LTE I always pull 10-11 ish at my house, so I have no complaints
thanks I will try any cut now..I have been doing the dailing method...3g off is very good on the battery
I used to get much better results with my old winmo device, I'm not sure why? The droid 2 was just downright awful for 3g speeds. The most I ever remember seeing was maybe 1.0. Maybe different phone act differently with the speed test like apps. Or different radios? I'm not that smart, I just know that there has been a difference between htc and my moto phone.
my_handle said:
or dial *#*#4636#*#*
Scroll down to select network type
CDMA = EDGE
EvDo = 3G
LTE = 4G
personally I have mine on LTE only ( live in Houston strong 4G network (D/L speeds constantly in midteens to low 20's Mbps ) and my battery isnt that bad.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If anyone have sperodic 4g, switches back and forth on 3g and 4g but you want to it to be consistant with 4g, turn it to LTE only and it'll stay lock on 4g. My house is in the 4G coverage but I'm near the edge. I would get 4g if i move near windows but if i moved to center of my house, it switches to 3g. This drove me nuts. So found out about this shortcut and now after setting to 4G LTE only, I'm lock onto 4g everywhere in my home...Happy camper. Battery life, what battery life? I'm making through the day with 25% left when I come home. Medium to heavy user too.
VY.
I downloaded anycut this morning before going to work and my charge meter was at 96%, 14 hours and 16 minutes later after talking, we browsing with 3g, using my bluetooth and wifi my battery life is still at 37%. Ladies and Gentleman, I'd say we have a winner!
definitely easier to just use network by mangelow..
So i set my phone to cdma PRL auto..
and i was playing with th phone running emulators for about 2 hours.. batt dropped to around 70%. The Battery is already much better....
Now i want to try how long it will last for tomorrow if i leave it in 3g or if i set it to exclusive LTE. In NY verizon has pretty good coverage.
Im sure in 3g it should last a pretty long time. I am assuming this phone should have a pretty efficient 3g chip by now that wont suck dry your battery dry
Yeah. Went to work with just 3g and I went about 8 hour and only hit 86%
damn.. so LTE is sucking like 3x (made up number) more batt power. Guys please keep updating this.. looks like were definetly up to something here lol
BTW im using the stock rom.. havent rooted yet. im gonna leave it in 3g for tomorrow all day and see how i fare..then LTE the next.
Cg006 said:
damn.. so LTE is sucking like 3x (made up number) more batt power. Guys please keep updating this.. looks like were definetly up to something here lol
BTW im using the stock rom.. havent rooted yet. im gonna leave it in 3g for tomorrow all day and see how i fare..then LTE the next.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not so much the LTE. Someone else posted that them having LTE only gives them a good amount of use throughout the day with medium to heavy usage. The problem is that the 3g and 4g never cancel each other out, they are both always on....
Ive been doing alot of reading around here.... i didnt catch that piece....i guess i will go LTE only tomorrow for work. If LTE dont suck so much power... i may as well leave it on
I guess this can be addressed in a new software update?
I LOOOOOOOVVVVVEEEEEE these speeds with LTE. just did a test, 15.78mbps down.... epic!
Sweet thanks, this should help some with the battery life.
I would think that once it is locked onto LTE, it won't drain as much juice as it was. Because before it probably switches back and forth so it is constantly looking for that 4G signal. I was at the verizon store today after work, and when I got there, all they had for their coverage was 1x. The guy said that the converage had been switching back and forth. He left to help other people and i got into the phones settings to change the signal. LTE only got perfect 4G. EvDo wouldn't connect for some reason. CDMA gave the 1x. I also tried to see if i could browse the web while on the different settings, and it only worked with LTE.
Hey guys, anyone know if there is a good 4G toggle widget compatible with this phone?
I tried beautiful widgets' 4G toggle and it doesn't do jack ****. :|
Sent from my rooted G2X
DrowsyMalice said:
I tried beautiful widgets' 4G toggle and it doesn't do jack ****. :|
Sent from my rooted G2X
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL Same here
welll...
I don't think you can find one because there isn't really a switch. Cause unlike sprint, which can use wi-max, and Verizon, which uses LTE, there is really no change in the network in T-mobiles service. Cause there is GSM(Edge/2G), UMTS(3G), HSDPA and HSDPA+(4G). Cause even on my Nexus One i could use HSDPA, and i would see slight speed increase, but only "4G" phones can take full advantage of the new towers. So, there is not exactly anyway to turn 4G of outside of switching to 2G or simply turning the internet off...
Found an app called switch pro allows me to toggle data on and off. turning it off when not in use saves me a lot of battery.
Sent from my G2x
I use one called 2g-3g on off by CurveFish. I dont htink there is any way to have a true toggle (like wifi or BT), but this brings me to the settings screen and I can adjust it easy enough as needed. It's about the best we can hope for at this point
The the 4g is actually 3g, it uses the same radio. So there is no way to toggle it off, unless you want to use 2g.
I second the CurveFish App, very simple and reduces clicks necessary to disable data.
Anyone know of a toggle widget that will put phone in 2g and back to 4g without having to go to the setting screen? I save so much battery not being on 4g. 5hrs and only used 25% battery on 2g vs 55% on 4g with the same usage..
ive been looking for the same, except to toggle to 3G
King Royalty said:
ive been looking for the same, except to toggle to 3G
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
for the Sensation 3G & 4G are the same thing. whether you're on UTMS or HSPA really would be negligible when it comes to battery drain. It's when you start actually getting 4G like LTE where it'd be a noticeable difference.
This is why i was asking about 2g cause GSM does not drain my battery and the temp on the phone is at 89.5 not 105.5 as when im on 4g.
I use the 2g 3g widget from curve fish doing in the market...it's more of a shortcut, but takes me where I need to go quicker than through settings
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App
I'm looking for the very same thing but it seems like not available at the moment....
cableline02 said:
Anyone know of a toggle widget that will put phone in 2g and back to 4g without having to go to the setting screen? I save so much battery not being on 4g. 5hrs and only used 25% battery on 2g vs 55% on 4g with the same usage..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Settings - Wireless & networks - Mobile network settings.
Set network mode to GSM only (instead of GSM/WCDMA auto)
SwitchPro's widget will take you to Mobile network settings. That's the best I've found.
Widgetsoid is good, has dozens of functions and that's one of them. Plus, has aosp power widget appearance.
Sent from my HTC Sexiness.
neocx said:
Settings - Wireless & networks - Mobile network settings.
Set network mode to GSM only (instead of GSM/WCDMA auto)
SwitchPro's widget will take you to Mobile network settings. That's the best I've found.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is it.
I searched for a program like this before and everyone kept giving answers like widgets that take me to the setting page. Im pretty sure the type we want doesnt exist, and you would have to put a custom mod on for that to work
c19932 said:
I searched for a program like this before and everyone kept giving answers like widgets that take me to the setting page. Im pretty sure the type we want doesnt exist, and you would have to put a custom mod on for that to work
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Android does not allow direct switching like that thats why allmost all widgets take you to the settings
Try this
https://market.android.com/details?id=de.mangelow.network&feature=search_result
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App
Looks like ATampT is becoming notorious for not including any 3G or 4G toggles. Not only can customers not turn off 3G in spotty 3G areas but now they can't turn off 4G LTE????!!!! Does AT&T not realize that someone who is in a spotty 4G LTE area will have their phone die twice as quick? I don't understand for the life in me why they don't give the customer the option to choose which network they want to be on?
I know I have the option to turn off cellular data but then I have no data whatsoever. If my phone sits in the drawer at work most of the day why can't it be forced to EDGE??? I know for a fact AT&T has an EDGE network to fall back on out here.
They allow iPhone 3GS and 4 owners to toggle 3G but not the 4S which is HSPA+. Now they don't allow you to turn off 4G LTE unless you root. WOW!!!
Honestly, they could care less about the battery life, but they do want you to use more data so they make more money. The faster the connection, the easier it would be to exceed your limit without realizing until its too late, or you may upgrade your data package because its faster. Either way is a win win for AT&T which means more money.
americasteam said:
Honestly, they could care less about the battery life, but they do want you to use more data so they make more money. The faster the connection, the easier it would be to exceed your limit without realizing until its too late, or you may upgrade your data package because its faster. Either way is a win win for AT&T which means more money.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow I never thought of that. I have unlimited but I guess the faster the connection the faster I can be throttled. Boy do I wish there was a good cell phone company in America that actually gave a sh*t about their customers.
Hopefully I will be able to add the toggles in on my rom.
another idea, make another APN without the info for LTE.
designgears said:
Hopefully I will be able to add the toggles in on my rom.
another idea, make another APN without the info for LTE.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
was just coming in here to ask if installing a custom rom would allow AT&T users to toggle edge/3g/hspa/lte . that would be REALLY nice!
Genetic517 said:
was just coming in here to ask if installing a custom rom would allow AT&T users to toggle edge/3g/hspa/lte . that would be REALLY nice!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, there are many roms for the Samsung SkyRocket that allow such toggles. Its a setting with the modem radio.
MattMJB0188 said:
Yes, there are many roms for the Samsung SkyRocket that allow such toggles. Its a setting with the modem radio.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
would there be any way of using these toggles without using another rom?
Genetic517 said:
would there be any way of using these toggles without using another rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, hence my frustration. Yea I like rooting but I'm pretty new to it and we shouldn't have to do it to gain this functionality.
Genetic517 said:
would there be any way of using these toggles without using another rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, but may need a modded kernel, root for sure. there are apps that shut off lte and 3g but require root. like DD said, try changing the apn.
It's also because they want to alleviate their load on the towers. All the people on 4g LTE are not on 3g, they don't care if it kills your battery because the signal is spotty.
does this mean even after sim unlock. i wouldnt be able to use this phone overseas and have 3g working?
Can you not change it under *#*#4636#*#* under phone info and scroll to preferred network type.
someone posted the answer to this question in another thread.
The LTE is integrated. So it just looks for the best available network. If you dont have lte, then it will connect you to 3g or hspa+.
MattMJB0188 said:
Looks like ATampT is becoming notorious for not including any 3G or 4G toggles. Not only can customers not turn off 3G in spotty 3G areas but now they can't turn off 4G LTE????!!!! Does AT&T not realize that someone who is in a spotty 4G LTE area will have their phone die twice as quick? I don't understand for the life in me why they don't give the customer the option to choose which network they want to be on?
I know I have the option to turn off cellular data but then I have no data whatsoever. If my phone sits in the drawer at work most of the day why can't it be forced to EDGE??? I know for a fact AT&T has an EDGE network to fall back on out here.
They allow iPhone 3GS and 4 owners to toggle 3G but not the 4S which is HSPA+. Now they don't allow you to turn off 4G LTE unless you root. WOW!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't get it; if you don;t want LTE why not just buy the international One X and have 32gig as well?
alwayslearning said:
I don't get it; if you don;t want LTE why not just buy the international One X and have 32gig as well?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't want to pay $600+ for a phone. I'm going to be on AT&T for at least 2 years so I might as well get a subsidized phone.
zivan56 said:
Can you not change it under *#*#4636#*#* under phone info and scroll to preferred network type.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope. Selecting any option that is not LTE it just bounces back to the "GSM/WCDMA/LTE Auto" option. Heck, even selecting "LTE only" bounces back to the default.
expertzero1 said:
someone posted the answer to this question in another thread.
The LTE is integrated. So it just looks for the best available network. If you dont have lte, then it will connect you to 3g or hspa+.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This was speculation on the part of that poster. See my response in that thread.
I remember this was also an issue on the Vivid. Toggle widgets don't work, the *#*#4636#*#* code doesn't work.
Try changing the APN to turn off LTE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19170113
Not a convenient toggle. But once you have the second APN setup, it wouldn't be too much of a pain to switch back and forth APNs (if it does work).
Also for the majority of the US, it doesn't even matter because AT&T LTE coverage is pretty minimal in its current form.
It even shocks me because ...
I'm quite surprised that AT&T does not allow you to turn off LTE.
My Rogers unit specifically allows this, so it's very strange to me.
Peter
I mentioned earlier it killing your battery, but considering the LTE is built in, there's no reason to really worry.
therulebookman said:
This was speculation on the part of that poster. See my response in that thread.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
speculation sounds about right
you posted that you got 13 hours with your phone. Sounds about right. 1.5 hours of talk time with mild usuage. Not sure if you had data on or off during those times. So.....
DING DING DING we have a winner
Ok, i finally got this thing rooted. I have a few questions about this, and these may be more ICS questions than Photon questions.
Do I have to do anything to turn on 4g? I cant find anywhere to do this. I liked the toggle buttons that showed at the top of older version of android, anyway to get those back? I ask because i was in an area yesterday where 4g service is available, but i never saw the phone automatically change to 4g.
Also, a program that i have used alot in the past is Roam Control. This is so that when i was at my hunting land, i could set my phone to roam only. I noticed more options in Preferred Network Mode. Is this how to set my phone to roam only? Because i installed Roam Control, and it doesnt work for this phone.
Check in development for the toggles. Still no 4G toggle. But rangerbry did an awesome job porting the others over.
Sent from my XT897 using xda premium
In the mobile networks section of the phone there are options, in your case, "CDMA" or "CDMA/LTE". I would think if you leave CDMA/ LTE selected the phone will connect to LTE when it or IF it is available. If not it will simply stay on 3G/CDMA.
How did you know the area you wer ein actually had LTE? Sprint seems to be launching a market when there is like 20% coverage, so good chunks of an area will not see it light up yet on the phones.
not lte but 4g. i know because my other phone got 4g service there. It seems like if u leave this phone on automatic, its not actually automatic cause it wont pickup 4g. which option do i use for roam only?
whitelightnin3006 said:
not lte but 4g. i know because my other phone got 4g service there. It seems like if u leave this phone on automatic, its not actually automatic cause it wont pickup 4g. which option do i use for roam only?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which other phone? Was it WiMax capable? This phone will only do LTE, not Sprints WiMax. Both are different forms of 4G for Sprint.
tetrabyt said:
Check in development for the toggles. Still no 4G toggle. But rangerbry did an awesome job porting the others over.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would be really nice to have some way to toggle 4g on/off... I know my buddy's Evo3D (yes, wimax...) can easily toggle it on/off. He said his battery life is WAY better when he leaves his wimax radio off, and I would imagine leaving the LTE radio off would be beneficial.
As there isn't a whole lot of Sprint rollout for LTE right now, turning it off permanently isn't a bad thing... But if I'm traveling or just curious - it would be nice to have this toggle!
swintec said:
In the mobile networks section of the phone there are options, in your case, "CDMA" or "CDMA/LTE". I would think if you leave CDMA/ LTE selected the phone will connect to LTE when it or IF it is available. If not it will simply stay on 3G/CDMA.
How did you know the area you wer ein actually had LTE? Sprint seems to be launching a market when there is like 20% coverage, so good chunks of an area will not see it light up yet on the phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea, it seems like this is the only method right now. Just set the network to "CDMA" and it will only be able to connect to 3g. I don't see any change in the 4g status, any way to verify this?
I was actually surprised at how granular my buddy's 3vo was with 4g - it was almost like wifi, had everything separate (and this is stock...) So I'm really hoping we can sort out something similar - because I don't see how wimax and LTE are different in these respects - no?
arrrghhh said:
... because I don't see how WiMax and LTE are different in these respects - no?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nah, as I suspect that unlike WiMax (which was a separate chipset) the LTE radio is combined with the CDMA radio on the chipset (and maybe even the GSM radio, if the chipset's advanced enough- I know there's combined CDMA/GSM radios).
kcrudup said:
Nah, as I suspect that unlike WiMax (which was a separate chipset) the LTE radio is combined with the CDMA radio on the chipset (and maybe even the GSM radio, if the chipset's advanced enough- I know there's combined CDMA/GSM radios).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That would suck. So far my battery life on this device is really awful... I've only been awake for 2 hours and I'm down 20%. Granted I have been playing with it more than I usually would (under "normal" usage patterns... new phone and all ), but damn! I wonder how long this thing will be able to stream music...
arrrghhh said:
That would suck. So far my battery life on this device is really awful... I've only been awake for 2 hours and I'm down 20%. Granted I have been playing with it more than I usually would (under "normal" usage patterns... new phone and all ), but damn! I wonder how long this thing will be able to stream music...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Streams music for the better part of 8hrs for me while at work. And if it isn't music or videos, I'm talking on the phone. I have you tried smart actions yet?
Sent from my XT897 using xda premium
tetrabyt said:
Streams music for the better part of 8hrs for me while at work. And if it isn't music or videos, I'm talking on the phone. I have you tried smart actions yet?
Sent from my XT897 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I need to play more with the Smart Actions. The only one I have setup now is an overnight one if I forget to plug it in.
arrrghhh said:
I need to play more with the Smart Actions. The only one I have setup now is an overnight one if I forget to plug it in.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They are sweet...
Sent from my XT897 using xda premium
I don't know if you "got" your answer, but I was talking with a Sprint Rep and she told me that the LTE just "turns" on. It's kinda like Tmo's HSPA. It's part of the Network. It just switches over if it sees it.
In your settings, you can say CDMA or CDMA/LTE. That's asking 3G or 3G/4G LTE. As far as a toggle, someone needs to come up with it. LoL!!
Your best bet, until a developer comes up with the answer, is to make a shortcut to that. I want this phone. =.P
No_Nickname90 said:
[I was told] the LTE just "turns" on. It's kinda like Tmo's HSPA. It's part of the Network. It just switches over if it sees it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The issue, of course, is that having the LTE radio (which appears to be a separate entity, unlike GSM where it's merely another modulation scheme that the chipset understands) be on all the time drains power that's essentially being wasted since Sprint's LTE Network is largely nonexistent.
The reason for wanting a Toggle is for those folks who spend their time in non-LTE (or marginal LTE signal) areas, who'd like a quick way to either test for an upcoming rollout, or to use LTE only when in a known LTE-enabled area.
kcrudup said:
The issue, of course, is that having the LTE radio (which appears to be a separate entity, unlike GSM where it's merely another modulation scheme that the chipset understands) be on all the time drains power that's essentially being wasted since Sprint's LTE Network is largely nonexistent.
The reason for wanting a Toggle is for those folks who spend their time in non-LTE (or marginal LTE signal) areas, who'd like a quick way to either test for an upcoming rollout, or to use LTE only when in a known LTE-enabled area.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea. I completely understand that. That's why I also stated that OP should just have a shortcut to their setting where they can change from CDMA to CDMA/LTE. That way OP can turn off LTE when not using it. A toggle, of course, would make this process a whole lot easier. I don't see why there isn't a toggle. There's a toggle for 4G WiMax. It does the same thing. When it's not connected, it just idles and scans again. It uses more battery looking for 4G to connect to than actually using it. LoL!! I've noticed that 4G WiMax "sleeps" quickly once it connects. I hope LTE would do the same.
Let me stop before I start ranting on. LoL!!
tetrabyt said:
They are sweet...
Sent from my XT897 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I looked at them briefly....am I missing something or does the battery saving one not give you the ability to give parameters like syncing every 30 minutes/1 hour or the like? If the ability is there, I couldn't figure out how to edit that one properly. I only saw 3 options and the one that'd be closest to what I'd want basically read like it will only sync when you're actively using the phone. I want that, but additionally would like it to connect and sync periodically and shut data back off. I'd used Green Power Premium on my Epic for that but thought maybe Smart Actions would give me the ability to do away with using it.