[Q] Xoom 3G vs Xoom Wi-Fi - Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I guess i'm not getting this right
I keep searching for a xoom 3G version but all i get is Verizon's only... I currently live in Saudi Arabia, and no providers are taking this tab on board of their plans... does this mean i'm stuck with the WiFi version? what if later on they started to support it, is it possible to upgrade it to use 3G, or is it the case that i will have to sell it and buy a new one if i need the 3G support?
the reason behind this is that not every place i go has wireless internet connection, and i would benefit from the 3G connectivity cause i will be able to use regardless of where i am as long as there is a signal.
anybody??
i kinda need this to make up my mind before i buy it, as it is a large investment USD 670
Thanks

The 3G version is currently/nominally on Verizon at this time, yes.
Its slowly rolling out to other carriers but I think mainly in wifi versions on.
What you COULD do, is if you own an android phone, user something like barnacle to do wifi tethering, and tether the wifi xoom to it, et voila, 3g access.

Hey ramyt,
I'm in Saudi too and I just ordered a Xoom. Whatever you do DO NOT get the 3G version from the US. This is NOT the same 3G we have here. The US 3G is based on CDMA, which is totally not compatible with our 3G which is a GSM based network.
What you want is the EU version of the Xoom 3G. You can pick one up at Hantec.co.uk or gummobile.com
Beware though, that the EU version of the Xoom is still stuck at Honeycomb Android version 3.0, while the US based Xooms have been updated to 3.1 (lots of goodies and bug fixes). Hopefully Motorola will be sending out 3.1 updates for the EU Xooms shortly.

As saifbarry pointed out, don't purchase a US 3G model.
The UK / Euro XOOMs will be GSM compatible and you can also buy them off contract. For example, www.carphonewarehouse.com sells the 3G XOOM in the UK. I'm sure there are probably other European retailers that sell the unsubsidised version, off-contract.

jediman said:
The 3G version is currently/nominally on Verizon at this time, yes.
Its slowly rolling out to other carriers but I think mainly in wifi versions on.
What you COULD do, is if you own an android phone, user something like barnacle to do wifi tethering, and tether the wifi xoom to it, et voila, 3g access.
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The idea crossed my mind. I have an HTC Desire, but there is a big problem with that approach, the tethering device will drain its battery like rocket speed.

saifbarry said:
Hey ramyt,
I'm in Saudi too and I just ordered a Xoom. Whatever you do DO NOT get the 3G version from the US. This is NOT the same 3G we have here. The US 3G is based on CDMA, which is totally not compatible with our 3G which is a GSM based network.
What you want is the EU version of the Xoom 3G. You can pick one up at Hantec.co.uk or gummobile.com
Beware though, that the EU version of the Xoom is still stuck at Honeycomb Android version 3.0, while the US based Xooms have been updated to 3.1 (lots of goodies and bug fixes). Hopefully Motorola will be sending out 3.1 updates for the EU Xooms shortly.
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hey saifbarry, thanks for that. did you manage to buy one for yourself? how is it working here is Saudi?

Bro why don't you try use a MIFI 3G router with your XOOM WiFi.you just need to plug in a 3g data sim card in to the MIFI 3G router then you can connect your XOOM with WIFI.

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Telus Milestone problem with 3G

Hi,
I just bought a Telus Milestone while in Canada las week, I bought it from a Best Buy store in Toronto.
I live in Costa Rica and we use 850mhz 3G band but for some reason is not picking up 3G band only GSM with EDGE data connection.
I already try the "WCDMA only" option but still not working it goes out of service.
Is there anything different in Telus 3G network that could be not compatible here?. All of the iPhones 3G and 3GS work here with no problems, same as some other ATT phones.
According to the FCC my phone supports 850mhz 3G band.
Behind the battery it says: FCC IHDP56KC5
And according to FCC documentation it supports WCDMA 850/1900/2100 plus HSDPA 10.2 mbps
So, I don't know what's going on...
Hope somebody can help me, I heard there is a Field Test hidden option on the phone that can show some troubleshooting information, but I don't know how to access it.
Thanks for the help,
Luis
Planning to buy one too, so it'd be handy to know what's going on there. I take it you bought it unlocked? Also, is the APN and all that setup correctly? How do you have it setup, is it one of the new 3G phone lines or an old GSM one (which are capable of 3G as well)?
I have the exact same problem down in Mexico, I just received an unlocked Telus Milestone and all I get is edge. I am using the same APN configuration that I have on my Rogers Dream (G1) and I do get 3G on that one.
Also, I believe this forums are for HTC phones only, I'm not sure we'll get lots of help here on a Moto issue.
Mine does work on HSPA+ here on Telus.
Just a hypothesis would be: Since it has only been released on HSDPA/HSPA+ network in Canada, they haven't done proper testing on 3G mode and there is a bug in 3G only mode.
Like I said, I can't say for sure since the only other GSM network we have here is rogers which is mixed 3G and HSPA+.
On second thought, I do have a Fido/Rogers SIM lying around so I'll give it a shot over the weekend and let you guys know.
Thanks Ady, it does sound like a compatibility issue. I have tried Telcel, I should be able to try ATT in the US next week.
Other than the 3G issue, this phone very darn nice... way faster than the dream, Multitouch work's great ont the browser.
yeah, its really good.
Update: I gave fido a try and it seems to be working, but on HSPA.
I bought it locked to Telus, and got the unlock code from "UnlockMotoDroid"
My SIM card is one of the old GSM ones, but I already try the new 3G SIM Cards (kolby3g) and same problem, only EDGE data connection. APN and all that is correct.
pasker17, I'll love to hear if you find a solution. Keep me posted.
Ady, agree with you, other than the 3G issue, this phone is pretty awesome..!!! Hope I can find a fix soon. I'm wondering if this could be related to the HSPA+ advanced technology that might not be compatible here, but as far as I know it should be backwards compatible with any other 3G technology.
And also, I heard people is using it with AT&T no problems, 3G data speed. Do they have HSPA+ ?
Thanks for your help guys
AllI can tell you guys is ther eis something diffrent with Radio signal we are using here ( Canada ) and the one in South America, I been tryin to use Latam f/w on my stone and no signal aty all whatsoever , so th eother way around doesnt work , they must be something we are missing about network compatibility , 1 thing I am sure Telus 's 3g network is the new HSPA .
double post sry .
DAG,
Yes, maybe there is some sort of advanced HSPA+ network in Canada, and that might be the reason is not working in some other places.
But as far as I know, all those HSPA+ flavors, should be backwards compatible.
Now I wish Motorola frees the bootloeader and I can try it with some other custom ROM.
LuisoCR said:
DAG,
Yes, maybe there is some sort of advanced HSPA+ network in Canada, and that might be the reason is not working in some other places.
But as far as I know, all those HSPA+ flavors, should be backwards compatible.
Now I wish Motorola frees the bootloeader and I can try it with some other custom ROM.
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That wouldn't be it. If you the iPhone works in Costa Rica the Milestone should work.
Have you called ICE? From the very brief info I can find on how to get the iPhone to work in Costa Rica it almost appears that ICE itself has to approved the devices on its network. Apparently they have approved the iPhone. I assume they'd do it via IMEI
AverageCanadian said:
That wouldn't be it. If you the iPhone works in Costa Rica the Milestone should work.
Have you called ICE? From the very brief info I can find on how to get the iPhone to work in Costa Rica it almost appears that ICE itself has to approved the devices on its network. Apparently they have approved the iPhone. I assume they'd do it via IMEI
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Yes and no, you do need to provide an IMEI to get your data plan working, but it should work with any device. I did it when I had a 3GS and have used my SIM on other phones and 3G works normally when setting my old apn. This is indeed bizarre
I called ICE, and went to their offices. Milestone is not
in the "approved list" so they won't even take a look. Same with the iPhones they work fine but are not "approved".
They already got my Milestone's IMEI registered on the system.
At the end they told me that this could be a software incompatibility but since the phone is not "in the approve list" there is nothing else to do or test for them.
Since this phone for sure supports 850mhz 3g band, I'm starting to think that it could be a software thing.
I'll be in the US in a couple of week and will try to test it on ATT, I heard a lot of people are using Canadian Milestone there with full 3G speeds
LuisoCR said:
I called ICE, and went to their offices. Milestone is not
in the "approved list" so they won't even take a look. Same with the iPhones they work fine but are not "approved".
They already got my Milestone's IMEI registered on the system.
At the end they told me that this could be a software incompatibility but since the phone is not "in the approve list" there is nothing else to do or test for them.
Since this phone for sure supports 850mhz 3g band, I'm starting to think that it could be a software thing.
I'll be in the US in a couple of week and will try to test it on ATT, I heard a lot of people are using Canadian Milestone there with full 3G speeds
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I take it you've tested known-working SIM cards and all (not only Kolbi ones), I know for a fact that mine works with APN: icecelular, if you care to give it a try with mine, let me know and we can arrange something. I really want to buy a Milestone and want to know if it works with 3g here or not
I've tested GSM Sim Cards (green and pink) and kolbi3g SIM cards, all of them with data enabled, not of them works with 3G data speed only EDGE.
LuisoCR said:
I've tested GSM Sim Cards (green and pink) and kolbi3g SIM cards, all of them with data enabled, not of them works with 3G data speed only EDGE.
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OK then, if you've tested with apn:icecelular for the old GSM ones, and kolbi3g for the new ones, then I guess it's something specific to the phone, but this is extremely strange. :S
Great... is working now in full 3G speed.
I just applied the Barazilian update to 2.0.1 and my radio baseband was changed. And now I can get full 3g data speeds and I have an "H" symbol on top
LuisoCR said:
Great... is working now in full 3G speed.
I just applied the Barazilian update to 2.0.1 and my radio baseband was changed. And now I can get full 3g data speeds and I have an "H" symbol on top
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How did you do this? I already ordered mine so as soon as it gets here I want to give it a try
Take a look at this thread
http://alldroid.org/threads/15924-Rooting-Telus-Milestone
They will tell you how to do it and even how to get root access, everybody is doing this in Canada and I already got root access on mine.
Let me know if you need some help
LuisoCR said:
Great... is working now in full 3G speed.
I just applied the Barazilian update to 2.0.1 and my radio baseband was changed. And now I can get full 3g data speeds and I have an "H" symbol on top
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That's great news, guess it was software. haha.

[Q] Xoom of verizon with the same Modem CDMA like iphone4

I read an article that Motorola Xoom have the same modem than iphone4.
this modem can support HDSPA+ with a simple firmware upgrade. anyone knows that it is possible?
i'll go this weekend to Miami, and i wanna buy a xoom, but i'm not sure if 3G connection will work in my country. I need HDSPA+ compatibility and i want to use xoom to navigate in the car with google navigation.
i know that 3g theetering is possible with another mobile phone "i have a samsung galaxy s" but it's usefull if i need to connect everytime the teether of the mobile phone to the tablet.
Verizon's Xoom and Verizon's iPhone are both CDMA devices, it's almost 100% likely that you will not be able to connect it to another countries carriers - unless they happen to be CDMA as well, but since you mention HSDPA+ - I will assume that they are GSM.
There are 2 iPhones in the US, a GSM iPhone and a CDMA iPhone. Verizon's is CDMA only.
The Xoom and the iPhone could be using the same modem, I don't know the radios off hand, but they will be CDMA radios, not GSM.
Hope this clarifies.

[Q] Motorola Xoom on UAE Etisalat

Hi all! I leaving In UAE - Fujairah, and I'm planing to buy a Motorola Xoom. Maybe someone with more experience than me, can advice me, if it worth, if it will work on Etisalat 3G network, and finally if those Xoom 3G released by Verizon and sell via E-bay are OK for my location. Thanks in advance !!!
ovigt71 said:
Hi all! I leaving In UAE - Fujairah, and I'm planing to buy a Motorola Xoom. Maybe someone with more experience than me, can advice me, if it worth, if it will work on Etisalat 3G network, and finally if those Xoom 3G released by Verizon and sell via E-bay are OK for my location. Thanks in advance !!!
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Axiom in UAE is going to be selling the XOOM. Sure they can provide more information they have a direct tie up with Moto,
Cheers.
thanks dude, but as far as I know they will bring only WIFI....
The Verizon Xoom uses CDMA for 3G networks. If I remember correctly, Etisalat is GSM only, so it would not work. I'm not sure about 4G LTE though, but that's not active on the Motorola Xoom yet anyway.
BTW, I was in Fujairah a few weeks ago; my Verizon Xoom worked great on wifi.
silentshab said:
The Verizon Xoom uses CDMA for 3G networks. If I remember correctly, Etisalat is GSM only, so it would not work. I'm not sure about 4G LTE though, but that's not active on the Motorola Xoom yet anyway.
BTW, I was in Fujairah a few weeks ago; my Verizon Xoom worked great on wifi.
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ok, but in order to use the WI-FI, I need to be stuck in home or any other place which has a Wireless Network.....anyway, it looks like I have to wait for a while....
Maybe I become insistent, but I don't want to spend almost 1000$ for nothing. Can someone to confirm if this model Motorola XOOM MZ601 will work in my 3G network. I already read the details and also I check the compatibility list on above link, but.....i just want to make sure, maybe someone has the similar model and using in GSM network. Thanks in advance!
Does your network use sim card? If yes, then the Verizon Xoom won't work for you.
Verizon 3G Xoom uses CDMA, it won't work on GSM networks that use sim cards.

[Q] Xoom 3G (USA) on Dutch (EUR) 3G Network

Hi guys,
First of all my apologies if I couldn't find this question in the current forums. I'm the proud owner of my imported Motorola XOOM 3G 32GB from USA to The Netherlands, and I started reading a lot in the XOOM section of XDA-Devs (already have a HTC HD2 with Android so already got a lot of Droid experience).
I've already rooted (& unlocked??) my XOOM with 1-Click Root & Unlock, but when I plug in my T-Mobile Netherlands SIM card, the tablet keeps hanging on 'Activating your XOOM..' (or something). Why is it called 1-Click Root & Unlock but it doesn't unlock my XOOM? Is it just for USA cellular?
I've also red a lot about the fact that they use other hardware in the USA for 3G data than in de EU (EV-GE(?) vs HSDPA), is this the reason why I can't use my 3G function in European Union? I don't hope so because when that's true, I purchased about 200 euro more on a 3G function which actually don't work here.
Please let me know if it's possible to use the 3G, or tell me the hard and painfull truth that it's not going to work in EUROPE ?
Any h4cks or something would be great!
Let me know and best wishes from the land of wooden shoes, The Netherlands.
Max.
Pretty sure your trying to activate a Verizon 3G version (cdma) on a uk 3G network (gsm). Not possible...at all...period...
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[Q] US AT&T & NT-G800 (3G version)

Does anyone use the NT-G800 (3G version of the Note 10.1) on AT&T in the US? If so, how is the performance over 3G? Any problems?
My GT-N8000 works great on AT&T's 3g network. I average between 2-4mb down and 1-1.5mb up. It ain't LTE but it gets the job done, lol.
Thanks for that. I ordered the 3G version without checking on here to see if there were any issues using on AT&T in the US. I figured 3G is plenty fast. An LTE version would probably kill the battery more anyway. I'm sure 3G will be plenty fast.
How is your phone experience with the tablet? I figure I'll have to swap sims when I go out, but for a work phone/tablet, it seems like a solid choice.

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