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currently running a sense 3.0 rom, and find the icon/widget sizes to be perfect. I do miss some of the stuff from launcher pro so id like to use it again, but the icon/widget sizes seem huge compared to that of sense. its it possible to change the resolution/density to make the sizes comparable? maybe im the only one to have an issue with this, but it really feels stretched out on my inspire. launcher pro looked perfect when i had a nexus one, but on the inspire everything is huge, which i dont really like
Try using an app like lcd density changer from the market. Or you can edit the dpi value manually in the build.prop file...
Also, gonna move this to Q&A..
The developers are working on it
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currently running a sense 3.0 rom, and find the icon/widget sizes to be perfect. I do miss some of the stuff from launcher pro so id like to use it again, but the icon/widget sizes seem huge compared to that of sense. its it possible to change the resolution/density to make the sizes comparable? maybe im the only one to have an issue with this, but it really feels stretched out on my inspire. launcher pro looked perfect when i had a nexus one, but on the inspire everything is huge, which i dont really like
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I'm thinking about going to opposite direction, from a sense3 rom (VU1.27) to possibly gingerbeast. Since sense is built-in, does it operate more smoothly than the launcher? With everything I have running, VU already needs a restart or two to get through the day hiccup free - on an Inspire.
Any other words of wisdom?
i have been trying to port the SG2 Dump (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048960) to no avail. I have about giiven up as i am a amateur developer. if any experienced devs can try that would be awesome.
Motorola Droid 3 port would be also awesome, but I am also amateur..
Drivers are the most important.
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I would be interested in a Touchwiz port as well. Mostly just for the puzzle lock and the messaging app.
If you are interested in TouchWiz,why don't you buy a galaxy s2?
You actually WANT Touchwiz? *mind explodes*
Fun fact: not everyone dislikes TW or likes Sense.
now let me get this straight !
you want 2 replace sense with touchwiz ??? ! ?
please tell me that I got this wrong pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
I like Touch Wiz better than Sense as well. It looks more like vanilla Android minus the horizontal app drawer. I can't stand the new version of Sense. Its not optimized and it has too much eye candy to apease the mainstream user. In my opinion, Touch Wiz is the more polished UI. We all know its more optimized.
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i would love to see this happen too, tw is really clean and seems like it would run smooth on the sensation. i love sense but its just eye candy and slows down performance
I don't want to replace it. I just want to see how it looks . a problem is it would be the sense 3 port all over again only in reverse. Sgs2 has a 800x400 display unlike the sensation's 960x540 display
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Wanna try it? http://mobileplanet-waryam.blogspot.com/2011/06/tw-launcher-45-v143-hacked-touchwiz-4.html
This thread is funny. Not only does someone actually want TouchWiz, but someone else said they want MotoBlur. While we're at it maybe someone can also get a working BB os7 os port working on our phone.
Paging Dr B said:
This thread is funny. Not only does someone actually want TouchWiz, but someone else said they want MotoBlur. While we're at it maybe someone can also get a working BB os7 os port working on our phone.
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Besides the horizontal app drawer. What is wrong with Touch Wiz? It comes with a better email and text client. Its contacts client is miles better and the swiping on contacts to call and text is one of the best features I've ever seen. Its twitter and Facebook integration is also better and its dock icons are interchangeable unlock the dock on Sense.
It doesn't have all that useless eye candy like Sense does. Who the hell needs the home screen to zoom in when unlocking their device. That's just stupid. Don't even get me started on the useless carousel feature. That right there is as worthless as a female in the fire department.
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jrwingate6 said:
Besides the horizontal app drawer. What is wrong with Touch Wiz? It comes with a better email and text client. Its contacts client is miles better and the swiping on contacts to call and text is one of the best features I've ever seen. Its twitter and Facebook integration is also better and its dock icons are interchangeable unlock the dock on Sense.
It doesn't have all that useless eye candy like Sense does. Who the hell needs the home screen to zoom in when unlocking their device. That's just stupid. Don't even get me started on the useless carousel feature. That right there is as worthless as a female in the fire department.
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TW contacts is nice I'll give you that. Swiping to the left or right is a great feature. When my Vibrant was my daily driver, all everyone could talk about was getting rid of TW. The launcher sucks, the icons/theme is gross, and samsung widgets aren't better than sense widgets. In my opinion of course. Lol, in fact if you go over to Galaxy S forums they ask about porting Sense to TW devices. The grass is always greener on the other side I suppose.
The sexism in your post wasn't needed though. You don't need a (man part) to be an EMT, or climb a ladder.
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TW contacts is nice I'll give you that. Swiping to the left or right is a great feature. When my Vibrant was my daily driver, all everyone could talk about was getting rid of TW. The launcher sucks, the icons/theme is gross, and samsung widgets aren't better than sense widgets. In my opinion of course. Lol, in fact if you go over to Galaxy S forums they ask about porting Sense to TW devices. The grass is always greener on the other side I suppose.
The sexism in your post wasn't needed though. You don't need a (man part) to be an EMT, or climb a ladder.
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Nope, your right. Women make great EMT's and they can climb a ladder. Its the throwing of a ladder they cant seem to accomplish. They also have trouble dragging a fully charged 2 inch hose up a flight of steps. It just aint happening my friend. I work in one of the busiest city's for fires. Not some jolly volly company out in the boondocks who only see fire twice a year. I see this **** first hand and I'm telling you. Women do not have the upper body strength to perform the duty s of this job. Hell, there's some men who don't belong doing this job.
It's not sexism if it's the truth. I'm not PC and that's whats wrong with today's society. We don't have standards and we try to meet quotas to appease the minority's. Whatever happened to BEST MAN FOR THE JOB!
When it comes to Sense widgets being better than TW widgets, your right. However, I don't use any of the widgets. When it comes to the icons on TW looking bad. I don't understand how they do. They look the same to me.
How many of you have even seen or used TW4? Not many unless you have friends with an imported SGS2. I came from ADW and find TW totally inoffensive. Like JR said, it's light, fast, and doesn't screw with the native Android feel of the phone. I totally get why people would like the all-in integrated experience of Sense but TW is a totally different approach. Other than less UI customization options it's no different than any other launcher out there. And some of the Samsung widgets which are exclusive to TW are pretty cool. Starting at the bottom of the thread below I posted pics of TW4 configured on my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172992&page=25
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How many of you have even seen or used TW4? Not many unless you have friends with an imported SGS2. I came from ADW and find TW totally inoffensive. Like JR said, it's light, fast, and doesn't screw with the native Android feel of the phone. I totally get why people would like the all-in integrated experience of Sense but TW is a totally different approach. Other than less UI customization options it's no different than any other launcher out there. And some of the Samsung widgets which are exclusive to TW are pretty cool. Starting at the bottom of the thread below I posted pics of TW4 configured on my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172992&page=25
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Your right. Most of these people haven't even used the new version of TW. Like the one guy who said the Icons were ugly. I can see how one would think that with TW 3.0 when it had the colored boxes surrounding them but now that they were removed, there is no difference in the looks of the icons. Like you said. TW 4 is the least intrusive UI and is also the most polished/optimized UI. There is absolutely no reason to hate it unless you dislike vanilla Android.
And to prove the grass is always greener somewhere else, here's a thread in the SGS2 forum where people are looking for a Sense 3.0 port.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156233
BarryH_GEG said:
And to prove the grass is always greener somewhere else, here's a thread in the SGS2 forum where people are looking for a Sense 3.0 port.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156233
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Every forum you read, people are always looking for UI ports. It the norm these days. People want options and everyone has a different preference.
Touchwiz 3 is horrible, touchwiz 4 is nice.
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I mainly like ics but it is too dark and not hapy like gingerbread. gbread is bright and happy looking if we could change that ics would be a whole lot better
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I mainly like ics but it is too dark and not hapy like gingerbread. gbread is bright and happy looking if we could change that ics would be a whole lot better
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Is Dark, but beautiful, it's simple, and follow a line. in GB, everything was coloful, but weird. I liked a lot more ICS than GB.
ics is nice but wouldent you like a little more color in it
Nope. Even my wallpapers black n' blue
What actually annoys me is how some of the stock icons/apps are brightly coloured (people, messages, etc).
I kind of agree I've played with ICS and like the feel of GB better, maybe it's because I am so used to GB and have not gotten used to ICS. But its darker and more mysterious I do kind of like that. But bright and happy wallpapers don't really fit the dark ominous blue theme of ICS
I just don't like the shade of blue they used, it seems overused.
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Personally I think ICS looks terrible. Its ripped off from old 80's sci-movie computer panels. I mean, I love Tron, its brilliant, but doesnt work so well on a device when you have seen something like MiUI bring out the best in Android. Now that looks stylish and professional. Where ICS looks like its supposed to appeal to geeks and teens only. I am a certified geek, but I just cant get to liking the looks of ICS
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I mainly like ics but it is too dark and not hapy like gingerbread. gbread is bright and happy looking if we could change that ics would be a whole lot better
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Agreed.
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Personally I think ICS looks terrible. Its ripped off from old 80's sci-movie computer panels. I mean, I love Tron, its brilliant, but doesnt work so well on a device when you have seen something like MiUI bring out the best in Android. Now that looks stylish and professional. Where ICS looks like its supposed to appeal to geeks and teens only. I am a certified geek, but I just cant get to liking the looks of ICS
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Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm glad i'm not the only one that feels this way. Sometimes with Android it's like you get a peek behind the curtain, and what you see is a Smartphone OS that's made by tweens, for tweens.
Yes, the Googlers are some of the most able people in the tech world, but sometimes it feels like they lack maturity. Certain aspects of their work needs more thought, more polish. Everything is 95% there and then left incomplete, as if in a fit of ADHD they moved on to the next project and forgot all about the previous one.
I think it's the usual paradigm. Coders do not make good Designers. What i'd like to see is a universal Theme Engine included in the OS itself. Much like the T-Mobile one included in CM7, but created by Google. Every device, whether Vanilla Android, or OEM Skinned, should come with a selection of Themes that work with that common engine. Sense/Touchwiz/Vanilla would all just be Themes for users to choose between.
Of course, Google half-arsed it again and didn't even consider Theme support when creating Android. Even Windows Mobile had Theme support going way back. It even had a Selection Pane for choosing between them. Why is technology going backwards in this regard?
Beauty of Android, don't like the look, change it
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I actually LOVE the new look. Its simple,elegant,consistent and much more polished. IMO the whole Android experience/"feel" had been revamped to the better , lets hope OEMs dont mess this up with their skins.
Plus is uses less battery on the Amoled displays, because of all the black!
I like it a lot, but I must say that my phone looks the rather the same as before, and Samsung allready used a lot of black for their own TW skin (think because of the Amoled display)
It's worth noting that the Galaxy nexus is the only device that will see the Holo theme. All the others will be skinned in the normal manufacturer colour schemes.
And i never thought i'd see the day when i would say that's a good thing!
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It's worth noting that the Galaxy nexus is the only device that will see the Holo theme. All the others will be skinned in the normal manufacturer colour schemes.
And i never thought i'd see the day when i would say that's a good thing!
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Although Android did publish a design website to help developers/designers follow the new Holo theme that ICS brought along. They are also encouriging OEMs to follow these guidlines when designing all those skins, so that Android would mantain a certain touch and feel throughout different devices!
Personally Id love to see that happen. Diversity is a great thing, but I do think certain UI elements need to look the same across all devices. But then again , Android is open source and OEMs can choose not to follow anything and come up with a whole new UI .
I love the new look, i like dark styles anyway, and i think it looks really smart and like some have already said, change it if you dont like it
i like ics because it gives a lot of a abstract feel and the dark tone feels like it save more battery. however a lot of ics theme is blue, i read somewhere that from RED-GREEN-BLUE, the colour tone BLUE uses more battery compare to the rest.
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It's worth noting that the Galaxy nexus is the only device that will see the Holo theme. All the others will be skinned in the normal manufacturer colour schemes.
And i never thought i'd see the day when i would say that's a good thing!
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The holo theme is to be used inside of apps to create the consistent feel. It has nothing to with sense, touchwiz etc. When you press a menu button inside of an app, google wants a consistent response with no crazy surprises. When you open an app, it looks the same on all devices no matter what the manufacturer UI is....
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The holo theme is to be used inside of apps to create the consistent feel. It has nothing to with sense, touchwiz etc. When you press a menu button inside of an app, google wants a consistent response with no crazy surprises. When you open an app, it looks the same on all devices no matter what the manufacturer UI is....
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Just because they want it, doesn't mean anybody will comply! If you were creating an app would you use your design ideas, or theirs?
i really need to learn how to code and make things for android lol
Gingerbread was dark and dull and boring, ICS is dark, but sexy and clean. Froyo was bright and happy but Froyo is almost obsolete now.
Android in the pre-ICS era was inconsistent and all over the place, design-wise. It was about time it looked like a "whole" OS and not something 100 different people quickly put together.
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Hello guys,
I've just recently got the One S on contract from Netcom and coming from a Samsung phone this really has been a new experience for me all together. But I have a problem. The phone itself works flawlessly and lags nothing compared to the HTC One X - but I really, really, really HATE SENSE.
I just can't seem to get used to it and since I've pretty much done custom flashing on my old Galaxy S since the very start, I just can't wait to replace SENSE as soon as possible - in the mean time, would it be possible to just unlock the device and put a STOCK version of ICS on it? Like one for the One S so that I get to keep stuff such as the HTC browser and maybe the custom Alt+Tab kind of thingy they put on?
Personally would like to build my own custom ROM with some mixed ingredienses but I wouldn't know where to start.
Any ideas? Or do I just have to wait and stick to this in the mean time?
As a stop-gap measure, you could install another launcher. I did this on the HTC Sensation for awhile before we started having either the non-sense options or true AOSP builds like we have now. From my limited experience, this is a flagship device and developers and users and documentarians will show up. The Sensation has a pretty rich community of both sense and AOSP builds now. One cautionary note though. On my Sensation running a modified version of CM9 there are things still being fixed. You may find early versions of ICS will have a variety of issues as developers get things solved. Its particularly hard before source gets released though. Its like peddling a bicycle backwards in a dark tunnel when its raining.
As mentioned above, install Nova launcher for now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389071
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ok thanks guys. will have to settle with it for now I guess.
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Au Contraire!
I am going with the One S because it runs Sense 4 ( best android overlay)
I was going to go with Samsung Galaxy S2 but my friend showed me his, everything about TouchWiz was unappealing from the large text the stale interface.
AndroidBlizzard said:
Au Contraire!
I am going with the One S because it runs Sense 4 ( best android overlay)
I was going to go with Samsung Galaxy S2 but my friend showed me his, everything about TouchWiz was unappealing from the large text the stale interface.
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I guess each one has it's own taste
My gripe with sense is just what you describe as appealing.. the small black text on white background in most of the interface is killing my eye-sight at night. Guess I have been used to the Android 2.3 experience for too long and as much as Sense 4 works wonders - it just not my cup of tea. This could of course be fixed if there was a "black" skin that could be applied. Preferably with as little bright colors as possible (I know, may sound boring but will eventually save a few hours of battery in the long run due to the AMOLED display running "less hot" )
I'm in the same situation as the OP, really enjoyed ICS on my Desire until the display broke (got slammed display first into table... IKEA > HTC)
Anyways here's hoping that I understand these nuggets correctly: "MoDaCo Custom ROMs are based on official ROMs - either shipping or leaked."
"Stock style and Vanilla (ICS) style prebakes will be available as the ROM takes shape."
Source: first post in [ROM] 11 Apr - MoDaCo Custom ROM for the HTC One S - Sense and Vanilla styles in the One S Development forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592126
So hopefully Paulobrien just removes Sense etc from an official ROM. Not sure whats up with the cooking lingo though, maybe there is a dev-chef-lingo dictionary somewhere on XDA!
Also I second your request for where to start learning to build your own ROM! Should post a Q in the noob-friendly thread here.
aureleuz said:
I guess each one has it's own taste
My gripe with sense is just what you describe as appealing.. the small black text on white background in most of the interface is killing my eye-sight at night. Guess I have been used to the Android 2.3 experience for too long and as much as Sense 4 works wonders - it just not my cup of tea. This could of course be fixed if there was a "black" skin that could be applied. Preferably with as little bright colors as possible (I know, may sound boring but will eventually save a few hours of battery in the long run due to the AMOLED display running "less hot" )
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Perhaps you are right
Looking at sense 3.0 interface , the black blackground is weird, sense 4 with white background for settings seems much more natural. I have spent quite some time around my friends who have EVO 3D and Sensation, and I have to admit I will miss the eye catching animations and the easy access carousel function. Of course this is will be my first HTC phone so I can see how people hate the white look of settings. Coming from an iPhone with white settings too, it will be a similar transition for me. Sense just seems to have so much depth and much to explore compared to other Android Overlays. Having ICS along with it just makes the experience much smoother and sweeter.(Pun partially intended )
So... can anybody tell me if the Stock ROMs that have been cooked for the One S recently work good enough to run for production (i.e. HTC camera, launcher, weather widget)
I really would like to feel that AOSP experience again just like on my old Galaxy S. But I don't want to loose any functionality
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So... can anybody tell me if the Stock ROMs that have been cooked for the One S recently work good enough to run for production (i.e. HTC camera, launcher, weather widget)
I really would like to feel that AOSP experience again just like on my old Galaxy S. But I don't want to loose any functionality
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Try Black Dragon 3.8 Rom. Very stable and keeps all functions working.
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Try Black Dragon 3.8 Rom. Very stable and keeps all functions working.
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Kthx.
Does that include the HTC ImageSense chip-drivers? I really like the way the camera snaps those pics in a fraction of a second!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/sharp-teams-up-with-design-company-for-new-feel-ux-android-skin/
Just thought I'd share that. Who else thinks it would look gorgeous ported to our One X's?
I'm sure the all mighty devs will have something when it's released with source (if that happens.)
Looks very iPhone to me.
Of course, variety in ROMs and different UI experiences are always welcome, IMO (if somebody is willing to port).
I'd actually say more WP7 than iOS.
The tile system and lay out of widgets.
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I'd actually say more WP7 than iOS.
The tile system and lay out of widgets.
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Yeah, I was more thinking the app icons (simpler, bigger icon than typical on Android). Look very much like ripoffs of the iOS look. But there is def some WP7 inspiration in there too, for sure.
I honestly do NOt think it would look gorgeous . It looks 10 years old.
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I honestly do NOt think it would look gorgeous . It looks 10 years old.
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Do you mean dated or immature/gimmicky?
Personally, I think it looks good visually, but from a usability standpoint I don't see how it's better than anything else out there. Plus, all the animations and gimmicky stuff is just a bit too overwhelming.
I'm a fan of open screens. This looks nice, but way to cluttered.
The icons are terrible. Why do most UIs have the fake glass and chrome and such?
If anything WP7 has been so refreshing because it doesn't clutter the screen up with tons of fluff. Stock ICS Holo theme is pretty decent with the blue highlighting and mainly black themes. Then again many Android apps ignore guidelines...
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