Rooted.... how do I update? - Thunderbolt General

Guys,
I've seen warning signs from many of you (thank you) regarding the OAT update that does not work if the phone is rooted.
That is my case here.
If the OTA procedure does not work, how can I obtain and install the update?
I tried to find the info here to no avail.
I use stock firware and would like to stay that way. But I'm also interested in having the most updated stock firmware.
Is it possible?
Thanks for any info.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041514
I'm guessing you are talking about the OTA update? This is the update... Just flash in HBOOT.
Shut off your phone, hold power button and volume down? I think or volume up... One of them puts you in HBOOT then click update when it gives you the option.

Thank you.

I am about to flash this too. Thanks for the heads up.

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Somewhat worried...

Hi people. Just this morning, I finally got the nerve to unlock. I had to downgrade doing it. Now, I heard after unlocking, an ota will brick tablet. For some reason, the new firmware downloaded. It's trying to update, and I don't know how to stop it. Also, stock browser disappeared too. What can I do before tablet bricks?
redheadplantguy said:
Hi people. Just this morning, I finally got the nerve to unlock. I had to downgrade doing it. Now, I heard after unlocking, an ota will brick tablet. For some reason, the new firmware downloaded. It's trying to update, and I don't know how to stop it. Also, stock browser disappeared too. What can I do before tablet bricks?
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go to the root of your external sd card and delete all the zip file(s), you probably left it there when you downgrade. Also delete file from internal sdcard in /cache/recover if any. Once you unlocked you shouldn't receive anymore OTA.
redheadplantguy said:
I finally got the nerve to unlock. I had to downgrade doing it.
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Strange, many people said the unlock tool works fine on JB.
redheadplantguy said:
Now, I heard after unlocking, an ota will brick tablet.
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Where?
I don't say it cannot brick your tablet, but I am not aware of any reports that it does.
redheadplantguy said:
Hi people. Just this morning, I finally got the nerve to unlock. I had to downgrade doing it. Now, I heard after unlocking, an ota will brick tablet. For some reason, the new firmware downloaded. It's trying to update, and I don't know how to stop it. Also, stock browser disappeared too. What can I do before tablet bricks?
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As said by the first responder, you can delete the cached firmware file. I do not expect the OTA to brick your tablet, but you could interrupt the process if you really wanted to.
Even with a brick, there are loads of possibilities of flashing a firmware file from ASUS' repository. Then you'd have a fresh tablet OS to your convenience. The situation you describe above does not exactly ruffle any my feathers.
EDIT: just in case you are not yet on .30 or higher... get Nvflash on there!
MartyHulskemper said:
As said by the first responder, you can delete the cached firmware file. I do not expect the OTA to brick your tablet, but you could interrupt the process if you really wanted to.
Even with a brick, there are loads of possibilities of flashing a firmware file from ASUS' repository. Then you'd have a fresh tablet OS to your convenience. The situation you describe above does not exactly ruffle any my feathers.
EDIT: just in case you are not yet on .30 or higher... get Nvflash on there!
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i could be mistaken. alas, i can't get nvflash. i wish i could. i didnt expect firmware to come in after unlock.
redheadplantguy said:
i could be mistaken. alas, i can't get nvflash. i wish i could. i didnt expect firmware to come in after unlock.
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If you unlocked your device, there will be NO OTA update, unless the download happened before you unlocked or you may have the update software sitting in your external SDcard or in internal SDcard /cache/recovery.
buhohitr said:
If you unlocked your device, there will be NO OTA update, unless the download happened before you unlocked or you may have the update software sitting in your external SDcard or in internal SDcard /cache/recovery.
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It downloaded, showing a progress bar. Later I reset, and this morning, it downloaded again. It showed it actually downloading.
redheadplantguy said:
It downloaded, showing a progress bar. Later I reset, and this morning, it downloaded again. It showed it actually downloading.
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You must be "the chosen one", first I heard of OTA stills working after you unlocked. Just verify that you actually "unlocked", by reboot your device and it should shows "your device is unlock" during booting up. If it does, then you are the chosen one. You can update as long as you are pure stock rom, and if you have root, just use OTA root keeper to keep root then you can update your pure stock rom to the new version. If you mod/freeze system apps then the update will fail. I never heard of updating of a stock rom with unlocked bootloader will brick your device. It will brick your device if you modded or using custom rom.
EDIT: If you don't want to do through OTA, you could download full package rom from Aus site, unzip then copy the new zip file to the root of your external SDcand. Disabled wifi (no more download) then delete the update file located in your internal memory /cache/recovery. Turn off your device, go into recovery mode by hold down volume down+power button, then install from there.
buhohitr said:
You must be "the chosen one", first I heard of OTA stills working after you unlocked. Just verify that you actually "unlocked", by reboot your device and it should shows "your device is unlock" during booting up. If it does, then you are the chosen one. You can update as long as you are pure stock rom, and if you have root, just use OTA root keeper to keep root then you can update your pure stock rom to the new version. If you mod/freeze system apps then the update will fail. I never heard of updating of a stock rom with unlocked bootloader will brick your device. It will brick your device if you modded or using custom rom.
EDIT: If you don't want to do through OTA, you could download full package rom from Aus site, unzip then copy the new zip file to the root of your external SDcand. Disabled wifi (no more download) then delete the update file located in your internal memory /cache/recovery. Turn off your device, go into recovery mode by hold down volume down+power button, then install from there.
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Thanks. Yeah, says "the device is unlocked." In tiny white letters very top left. I hope my glitch doesn't interfere in me flashing new ROM's
Odd, did factory reset, and lost root AND twrp. Had to reflash it.
redheadplantguy said:
Thanks. Yeah, says "the device is unlocked." In tiny white letters very top left. I hope my glitch doesn't interfere in me flashing new ROM's
Odd, did factory reset, and lost root AND twrp. Had to reflash it.
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That does sound like it actually flashed something (at least partly). I would run that unlock tool another time just to be sure I wouldn't get into trouble down the road (Having an ASUS OTA flash right on top of your CleanROM/CM10/AOKP could be a minor disaster, or a pretty disastrous disaster, depending on what ROM of these you were on. Flashing over stock, well... minor nuisance, but it would be majorly inconvenient to have to flash root and stuff all the time.)
MartyHulskemper said:
Having an ASUS OTA flash right on top of your CleanROM/CM10/AOKP could be a minor disaster, or a pretty disastrous disaster, depending on what ROM of these you were on.
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No, it just doesn't work. The updater-script inside the OTA package compares the checksums of the system apps to be patched, and aborts as soon as one doesn't match the previous stock ROM.
The only potential danger I see is the communication with the bootloader which kernel to boot - the OTA downloader (DMClient) somehow has to instruct the bootloader to load the recovery kernel to install the dlpkgfile from /cache, and if that process is still not understood by custom recovery creators (there were some problems apparently, I don't know if they are solved), you might end up with a device that only boots into the recovery and not into Android.
Thanks. I will.
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F2 to HE update?

I bought my S3 used and it was already unlocked but from what I can tell still had the stock ROM (base version says it is I535VRLF2 but DEVICE STATUS says it is modified). When it powers up, I do not get a CWM or TWMP screen -- it goes directly to the normal startup so I am not sure what the previous owner loaded/did. I do not see any folders in the root folder (using ES FIle Explorer) for CWM and nothing in DATA/BACKUP (EDIT: just saw build number is VRALG7)...
Today I got a notice about an OTA upgrade (to HE) and got help on how to freeze it (as I did not want to lose root and all the customization I did to some files) but now I am wondering what changes were made from F2 to HE. I did find a post that talks about the HE upgrade.
Was F2 the previous OTA for the S3, or did my phone miss other OTAs? And if so, I am missing out on some important changes where I should let the OTA happen and then go and unlock the phone again? I read a number of threads about 'the new radio' which I assume is software to improve the phone or WIFI. Am I missing out?
Thanks
Frank
Michigan
I don't think you are missing out on anything to be honest. I did update mine and reroot without any issues, but can't really tell a difference. I would still do it so I can have the latest update on my phone since this one doesn't lock anything that we can't get back into.
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There has been only three official releases, F2,G7,and HE. Since you are at G7 I would go ahead and OTA HE. Latest ROMS are based off of it plus you will have all the latest firmware and modem.
sfobrien said:
There has been only three official releases, F2,G7,and HE. Since you are at G7 I would go ahead and OTA HE. Latest ROMS are based off of it plus you will have all the latest firmware and modem.
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Thanks for the reply. Will that break either my root or unlock (actually, I am not sure what state this phone is at since I did not do it -- I do find SuperSU in APPS, and have granted SuperUser to programs like Titanium Pro but there is nothing for CWM or other ROM managers...)?
Frank
If you did an OTA to get to G7 your root is probably gone. You said you have Titanium installed, try to use it. If not rooted it won't work and will advise you so. If this is the case do the OTA to HE and then you will be up to date stock ROM wise.
sfobrien said:
If you did an OTA to get to G7 your root is probably gone. You said you have Titanium installed, try to use it. If not rooted it won't work and will advise you so. If this is the case do the OTA to HE and then you will be up to date stock ROM wise.
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No, sorry, I must not have explained it correctly. Titanium Pro, ES File Explorer, etc works fine, and I can edit/delete/freeze, etc no problem. So it is still rooted (or unlocked, I can figure out which is which). I would update to HE but only if it did not mess up what I have....
Thanks
Frank
FMinMI said:
No, sorry, I must not have explained it correctly. Titanium Pro, ES File Explorer, etc works fine, and I can edit/delete/freeze, etc no problem. So it is still rooted (or unlocked, I can figure out which is which). I would update to HE but only if it did not mess up what I have....
Thanks
Frank
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Ok I understand now. Root and unlocked are two different things. You can flash an HE ROM and not lose your root. Unlock in your case I think you are referring to the bootloader. It will have to be unlocked prior to flashing custom ROMS. Get an app called EZ Unlock from the Playstore and it will unlock bootloader for you if it's not unlocked already.
I recommend CleanROM 3.1 if you decide to flash. Hope this has helped you some.
I'm trying to revert back to custom because i lost my IMEI but the process I was following required me to flash "VRALF bootchain" 2x and then flash "HE package" but i dont know where to get the HE package and i tried flashing root66 and VRALHD but they both failed can someone help me?
andimanium said:
I'm trying to revert back to custom because i lost my IMEI but the process I was following required me to flash "VRALF bootchain" 2x and then flash "HE package" but i dont know where to get the HE package and i tried flashing root66 and VRALHD but they both failed can someone help me?
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The only way to get stock HE currently is OTA.
sfobrien said:
Ok I understand now. Root and unlocked are two different things. You can flash an HE ROM and not lose your root. Unlock in your case I think you are referring to the bootloader. It will have to be unlocked prior to flashing custom ROMS. Get an app called EZ Unlock from the Playstore and it will unlock bootloader for you if it's not unlocked already.
I recommend CleanROM 3.1 if you decide to flash. Hope this has helped you some.
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I am not interested in loading any custom ROMs (although I am hoping we get the official JB soon). The only thing that is of interest to me is to be able to run certain programs that require superuser access (e.g. Titanium Pro) and to be able to edit and delete files in the root directory. So I assume all I need is root, and I don't want any OTA updates to take that away (or overwrite files that I have modified or edited that deal with the OS). Maybe that is why I cannot find any reference to CWM -- the previous owner only rooted it but did not unlock it....
Frank
FMinMI said:
I am not interested in loading any custom ROMs (although I am hoping we get the official JB soon). The only thing that is of interest to me is to be able to run certain programs that require superuser access (e.g. Titanium Pro) and to be able to edit and delete files in the root directory. So I assume all I need is root, and I don't want any OTA updates to take that away (or overwrite files that I have modified or edited that deal with the OS). Maybe that is why I cannot find any reference to CWM -- the previous owner only rooted it but did not unlock it....
Frank
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Got just the thing for you. First test to make sure you have newest CWM. Power down, Hold volume up,home button,and lock button at same time until phone flashes twice then release. This will put you in recovery and you can see what version you have. The latest is 6.0.1.2. If not you can find newest version or a touch version right here at XDA. Then if you want just a rooted HE version here you go.
http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=247
Or you can download GooManager and flash TWRP for a more user friendly touch recovery. :laugh:
And flash the same rom from Scott.
prdog1 said:
Or you can download GooManager and flash TWRP for a more user friendly touch recovery. :laugh:
And flash the same rom from Scott.
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Thanks forgot about GooManager.
sfobrien said:
Got just the thing for you. First test to make sure you have newest CWM. Power down, Hold volume up,home button,and lock button at same time until phone flashes twice then release. This will put you in recovery and you can see what version you have. The latest is 6.0.1.2. If not you can find newest version or a touch version right here at XDA. Then if you want just a rooted HE version here you go.
http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=247
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OK. I have 6.0.0.8 right now. I am surprised it was there, as with my Nexus and my TP on a cold boot it would show CWM at startup. And there would be folders in the root directory (/CWM). But yes, I have CMW.
And OK on now being able to download and install a rooted HE. But most are saying it either does nothing or makes the phone run a little hotter, so unless I see a pressing need, I will just stay with what I have.
Thanks again.
Frank
prdog1 said:
Or you can download GooManager and flash TWRP for a more user friendly touch recovery. :laugh:
And flash the same rom from Scott.
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I had tried TWRP with my HP TP and although it has a nice interface, one time, on loading a new nightly, it TOTALLY messed up my TP. I thought it was bricked. I ended up having to do a complete restore back to WebOS using WebDoctor and a lot of what I thought was code-level input via the PC trying to bring it back to life. Since then, I have only used CWM.
Thanks for the input though!
Frank
FMinMI said:
I had tried TWRP with my HP TP and although it has a nice interface, one time, on loading a new nightly, it TOTALLY messed up my TP. I thought it was bricked. I ended up having to do a complete restore back to WebOS using WebDoctor and a lot of what I thought was code-level input via the PC trying to bring it back to life. Since then, I have only used CWM.
Thanks for the input though!
Frank
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It is personal choice. I have not had any problems with it and have been running since device was released for pre-order. I run whatever recovery seems to be most stable for the device. CWM for Tbolt. Amon Ra for Rezound. And now TWRP for S3. Have seen more bricks and failed flashes contributed to CWM so I stick with TWRP.
help
sfobrien said:
Got just the thing for you. First test to make sure you have newest CWM. Power down, Hold volume up,home button,and lock button at same time until phone flashes twice then release. This will put you in recovery and you can see what version you have. The latest is 6.0.1.2. If not you can find newest version or a touch version right here at XDA. Then if you want just a rooted HE version here you go.
Can anyone tell me why every time I try to flash a ROM after I have taken all the OTA updates I am on VRLGHE; when my phone re-boots I get the verizon screen saying I have unapproved software and take to a verizon store.
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FMinMI said:
OK. I have 6.0.0.8 right now. I am surprised it was there, as with my Nexus and my TP on a cold boot it would show CWM at startup. And there would be folders in the root directory (/CWM). But yes, I have CMW.
And OK on now being able to download and install a rooted HE. But most are saying it either does nothing or makes the phone run a little hotter, so unless I see a pressing need, I will just stay with what I have.
Thanks again.
Frank
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The OTA installed with a custom recovery installed? Interesting. Usually OTA's fail if anything but stock recovery is installed. I only lost root but restored root with OTA Rootkeeper with stock recovery. Good to know that custom recovery can be installed and still get OTAs!
masonjb said:
sfobrien said:
Got just the thing for you. First test to make sure you have newest CWM. Power down, Hold volume up,home button,and lock button at same time until phone flashes twice then release. This will put you in recovery and you can see what version you have. The latest is 6.0.1.2. If not you can find newest version or a touch version right here at XDA. Then if you want just a rooted HE version here you go.
Can anyone tell me why every time I try to flash a ROM after I have taken all the OTA updates I am on VRLGHE; when my phone re-boots I get the verizon screen saying I have unapproved software and take to a verizon store.
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Boot loader is locked.
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prdog1 said:
masonjb said:
Boot loader is locked.
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OK, I used EZ Unlock 1.2 and it said "unlocked" is there a way to know for sure before flashing if it is unlocked?
Thanks!
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v4.4.4 won't install... gets half way with error!

Trying to install v4.4.4 on my stock --not developer edition-- Droid Ultra. It is currently running v.4.4.2 (19.6.3.obake).
After the download, the phone reboots, gets about half-way through and stops with a message "error!". No other info provided. So far, the MFN doesn't have any answers.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to get this installed?
I have:
-reset to factory specs (via menu with phone booted up) and tried the install
-reset (via vol down, power) to factory specs and tried the install
Always ends with "error!" ..... thanks for any help.
Have you tried to RSD and keep data? I had that problem on the first update and that's what finally fixed it.
beelow319 said:
Have you tried to RSD and keep data? I had that problem on the first update and that's what finally fixed it.
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Can you offer up the steps to do that? I know how to do a factory reset, but that will wipe the data. Thanks.
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450702
Super easy to do
newtoncd said:
Trying to install v4.4.4 on my stock --not developer edition-- Droid Ultra. It is currently running v.4.4.2 (19.6.3.obake).
After the download, the phone reboots, gets about half-way through and stops with a message "error!". No other info provided. So far, the MFN doesn't have any answers.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to get this installed?
I have:
-reset to factory specs (via menu with phone booted up) and tried the install
-reset (via vol down, power) to factory specs and tried the install
Always ends with "error!" ..... thanks for any help.
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Are you, or have you been rooted in the past?
rmjones2006 said:
Are you, or have you been rooted in the past?
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No, have never been rooted.
The only thing I have ever done is update the radios (adb) ...
for beelow319, am trying the houseofmoto steps now. thanks, will report back.
beelow319 said:
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450702
Super easy to do
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May I just say, thank you very much.
That worked ... I am now running v4.4.4 .... and you are right, that was very easy.
Too bad I had already wiped my phone twice ... ugh ... again, thank you!
newtoncd said:
No, have never been rooted.
The only thing I have ever done is update the radios (adb) ...
for beelow319, am trying the houseofmoto steps now. thanks, will report back.
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Updating the radios is surely what caused your problem.
The OTAs are usually patches to existing files, not replacements. That keeps them smaller.
If you open the OTA file and read through the updater script, you'll see that the first thing it does is run a hash against every file it will be updating. It's making sure that every file is stock, exactly they way the patch needs it to be to be successful. Without a check, it could patch a file with changes that break the file and therefore your phone.
In this OTA, the very last thing checked is the modem (radio). Since your was not the 4.4 radio it was looking for, it stops the update before anything at all is patched.
It took so long to get there because there are about 1000 files it checks, if I counted correctly.
You hadn't even reached the actual update part of the update.
distortedloop said:
Updating the radios is surely what caused your problem.
The OTAs are usually patches to existing files, not replacements. That keeps them smaller.
If you open the OTA file and read through the updater script, you'll see that the first thing it does is run a hash against every file it will be updating. It's making sure that every file is stock, exactly they way the patch needs it to be to be successful. Without a check, it could patch a file with changes that break the file and therefore your phone.
In this OTA, the very last thing checked is the modem (radio). Since your was not the 4.4 radio it was looking for, it stops the update before anything at all is patched.
It took so long to get there because there are about 1000 files it checks, if I counted correctly.
You hadn't even reached the actual update part of the update.
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I had replaced the radios with stock before trying to update to v4.4.4 .... when that didn't work, I thought the reset to factory specs would take care of that; no joy.
In the end, I love the HouseofMoto program .... that was really easy.

[Q] Help please

I have recently rooted my galaxy s5 from Verizon. As of a couple yesterday i received a update message for my phone., wheni go to download my update it starts the process and then gives me a error message. the message does not say anything but ERROR. Please help me with this. How Can i update my phone without uninstalling the root or if that is even possible. i currently run 4.4.2.
tilghman86 said:
I have recently rooted my galaxy s5 from Verizon. As of a couple yesterday i received a update message for my phone., wheni go to download my update it starts the process and then gives me a error message. the message does not say anything but ERROR. Please help me with this. How Can i update my phone without uninstalling the root or if that is even possible. i currently run 4.4.2.
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your phone has to be 100% stock or the update will fail. no root, no deleted/frozen bloat, nothing modified. if you don't want to do this, you cant take the update.
ok, thank you very much. So i just need to do a factory reset and then update phone then reroot ?Also are there any roms i can flash for the update?
tilghman86 said:
ok, thank you very much. So i just need to do a factory reset and then update phone then reroot ?Also are there any roms i can flash for the update?
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usually custom roms don't contain all the needed files for a proper update. you need the factory stock file.
edit, sorry, missed the first part. yes fdr, then update, then re-root.
hey mister u need to manually download the latest and updated rom for it and then u have to put into sd card and then go to bootloader and try to flash it if u don't any trouble...
i dont know whats up with these jack holes re-wording and repeating what i already said today but its really starting to p me off.

7.1.1 Update Downloaded but not yet installed. Can it be prevented?

Hey all, I downloaded the 7.1.1 update on my VZW Google Pixel by accident (as I intend to root my phone later today). Thankfully there wasn't enough battery left to install the update, so I'm still on 7.1. Since I cant run root software on my work computer, is there a way to prevent this update without root? Thanks!
afrophysics said:
Hey all, I downloaded the 7.1.1 update on my VZW Google Pixel by accident (as I intend to root my phone later today). Thankfully there wasn't enough battery left to install the update, so I'm still on 7.1. Since I cant run root software on my work computer, is there a way to prevent this update without root? Thanks!
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I believe it's already installing in the background. Isn't that the whole point of the seamless updates?
To be honest if it were me I would not risk it. I would power off my phone asap and only boot into bootloader mode once I got home to unlock right away. There's no going back if it updates and you will never be able to unlock.
I did the same thing.. had the "reboot to install update" message in my notification panel.. I just left it there with the phone on until I got to a computer to unlock the boot loader.. did the unlock via ADB and when the device restarted, it installed the newest update and boot loader was still unlocked
I unlocked it when I got home. Just never gave it enough charge to update. I also realize this is in the wrong section. My apologies to the mods, I was freaking out.
afrophysics said:
I unlocked it when I got home. Just never gave it enough charge to update. I also realize this is in the wrong section. My apologies to the mods, I was freaking out.
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Just report your own OP using the exclamation point in the triangle in the lower left corner of your first post /!\ and ask for the thread to be moved to Q&A.
You can disable automatic updates in the Dev menu. I would recommend that you do this until you can unlock the bootloader.

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