Just got my battery from Verizon, and while it will take a few days before I can properly let you know if it's worth the money, I wanted to post some pictures. Like several people I was really hesitant to jump on the Seidio and ChiChi batteries due to the wide variety of results people were getting. Even the websites who measured their capacities said that their true capacity varied from battery to battery. Some people could end up with one that lasts 2x as long as stock, while some could be slightly worse (than stock). I really didn't feel like returning batteries until I got a good one, so when HTC released a bigger battery that fit inside the G2, I jumped on it.
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Some shots of the box. As you can see it's the Official HTC battery for the Verizon Droid Incredible II, but since that is an identical device to the Incredible S, that battery will work as well.
The G2 comes stock with a 1300mAh battery, this one is 1450mAh, just a little bump. It fits PERFECTLY. No trimming, just pop out your old one and throw in the new one. I was surprised to find it was already 50% charged when I put it in, but I immediately threw it on the charger. The whole appeal of this battery is that it is an Official HTC product, so I'm hoping for greater consistency and quality.
It will be a few days until I get an idea of how much better this thing is for $40, but I will report back when I do.
REVIEW CONTINUED TWO POSTS DOWN
Nice pictures. How much was it? I ask because the Evo Shift battery is $44.00 but it is 1500mah.
EDIT: lol, nm. I see the price in the pic!
OK, so a few days with the battery now. Final Verdict- A definite improvement.
Each day I unplugged at about 5am and wouldn't plug back in until around 11pm. A couple days I stayed on wifi/wifi calling (a HUGE battery saver), and at 11pm would still have 40% left in the tank. This is with some moderate use, little bit of gaming, browsing, Pulse News Reader, and a couple Youtube videos.
Without wifi I go into the red around 9ish, which is still a nice improvement over stock. So I would say that if you are a person who continually makes it a few hours short on battery for the day, than this one is for you. You will notice an improvement and hopefully not have to stress about preserving that battery. But if you are having to plug in multiple times a day, then I can't say that this will help you too much.
Pros:
Gives you a nice bump in battery life, noticeable over stock. (Remember it will take a few charges/discharges to see this improvement)
An official HTC battery
No modifications needed to fit perfect (unlike the EVO Shift battery)
Much more consistant and (hopefully) reliable over 3rd party batteries
Cons:
It's only 1450mAh (Over the stock 1300), so it's not a huge increase (Judge if it's worth $40)
Won't save the power users out there.
You can find this hopefully at a Verizon store or their Wireless website. That said, HTC.... start making official extended batteries for your phones! Not just the Thunderbolt.
thank you very much for your review.
i think i'll try for myself to see if it helps.
been coming short on battery power a couple of times now (by a couple of %) so this should be a welcome change.
regards,
!ncanity
so you bought the battery direct from verizon? i'm thinking i might do this too after seeing your little write up.
polarbearmc said:
so you bought the battery direct from verizon? i'm thinking i might do this too after seeing your little write up.
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Yup, right from their website as the store near me didn't have any in stock yet. Remember don't expect a huge difference, as the battery is only a little bigger. But it can give you that little extra to make it through the day. Not sure on verizon returns, but I hope they will be a little bit better than say mugen or seidio.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2
Good info, but the message to HTC should be to work on power management better.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-g2/
Power Rechargeable battery, 1300 mAh
Talk Time Up to 400 minutes for WCDMA
Up to 590 minutes for GSM
(The above are subject to network and phone usage.)
Standby Time Up to 430 hours for WCDMA
Up to 430 hours for GSM
(The above are subject to network and phone usage.)
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i know it says up to...but lets get real, this is not even close. maybe 50 hours standby and 300 min talk time at best.
i found the battery for sale on androidcentral store for 27.95, but they list it as 1500mAh, and if you look at the image its says 1450mAh. HTC also has it for sale on their website they also list it as 1500mAh. I hope the fit is perfect i would hate to have a hump when i put the battery door back on.
http://store.androidcentral.com/htc-1500mah-standard-battery/8A37A8404.htm Androidcentral
http://shopamerica.htc.com/accessories.htm?prId=38854 HTC
i feel that you should've gotten the 1800 mah battery from mugen power if you were gonna use that much money. they're pretty much in the same range and with a couple of extra dollars you would've gotten more battery life.
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i feel that you should've gotten the 1800 mah battery from mugen power if you were gonna use that much money. they're pretty much in the same range and with a couple of extra dollars you would've gotten more battery life.
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I had a bad experience with mugen on a previous phone, not to mention that their 1800mAh batteries are not really so. I would much rather buy an oem product for the reasons above.
That said I'm sure that many might be happy with a mugen (or seidio) purchase. I just would rather spend a little more and avoid the possible headache.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2
i ordered the same battery as the OP, but from androidcentral store. Received it today the fit is perfect, htc should start including the Droid Incredible II battery with new shippments of g2's and desire z's. Didnt test out the battery yet just wanted to see how the fit was. Total was $33.95.
HTC packaging
The stock G2 battery is on the left side, it looks a bit more square from the side. The G2 battery also has a small square cutout on the side unlike the Droid Inc2 Battery.
Top View, G2 battery on top
Back of both battery's, g2 battery on top.
new 1450mAh (Droid Inc2) battery inserted no bulge perfect fit.
one more shot of new battery in my G2
Excellent pics. Please do report your findings, I've been very impressed so far.
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New update with even Better battery life than Eclair!!! check the link to my latest youtube review.
I just recently decided to update my Epic to Froyo and go with ViperROM 3.0.3 and I got a big improvement now getting 85+ HOURS OF LIGHT to MEDIUM USAGE! on Froyo...click the link to my Froyo youtube review for the details and don't be shy to let me know what chu think y'all!?
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OVnuV08Mh4
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I've recently updated this thread with a link to the original Yoobao website. It is in Chinese but lucky for us Google has a translation feature that worked out very nice...so if you want to take a look at the Yoobao brand for yourself I've posted a link so you can take a look at all their products for cell phones.
URL: http://translate.google.com/transla...oobao.com&hl=en&rlz=1R2SKPB_enUS373&prmd=ivfd
I found this 2800 Mah hour battery with door for the Samsung Epic 4G on Ebay and I just finished posting the final review up on my youtube page. This is a nice medium from spending $50 on a 1600maH battery that isn't going to give you much improvement and spending $70 on a humungous 3500maH battery.
Here is the link to the youtube review I just recently uploaded if you wanna take a look at it for yourself in detail!
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al_po8oanz0
The name of the company is "Moretalktime" and you can look for him on EBAY to purchase this extended battery along with batteries he has out for various other phones for all your friends.
I'm in the middle of conditioning the battery and thus far it took me 13 hours to kill the battery from 100% out of the box with everything turned on and I even left the LED flash on for the last 3 or so hours to get it to die...after another cycle of coditioning (this bieng the 2nd..ish cycle) I took it off the charger with 100% battery Wednesday night of 11/24/10 at 8pm...and my phone just died earlier today on Friday afternoon of 11/26/10 at 1pm GIVING ME 41 HOURS OF BATTERY LIFE WITH MEDIUM USAGE!!! on a 2800mAh battery...still not done calibrating...that's only the 2nd cycle...more to come....just wanted to give you guys an update!!!
Yes that's right people no BS I got a lidgit 60+ HOURS OF MEDIUM USAGE! on this Yoobao 2800mAh extended battery...check out my latest youtube video for details and the final review!
DIMENSIONS:
1.5cm back to front with stock battery cover.
2.0cm back to front with extended battery cover.
30,000+ views!! thanks errybody don't hesitate to leave a comment and leave me a quick thumbs up if I've been of any assistance to your battery life situation!!
Let me know what you think, questions, comments, opinions about my results so far!?!?!?
Well this is very exciting news! Maybe now I will be able to get through the day without crippling my phone. Can't wait!
Link please?
Wow look at that whopper of a battery!
Makes the phone like a giant brick. I'm extremely wary of extended batteries from China, and would like to see the battery tested and what the actual mah level is.
NeonMonster said:
Wow look at that whopper of a battery!
Makes the phone like a giant brick. I'm extremely wary of extended batteries from China, and would like to see the battery tested and what the actual mah level is.
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This. Gonna wait 'er out.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sprint-Epic-4G-..._Batteries&hash=item1e5f7b74ae#ht_1528wt_1139
holy ugly. I'll just carry a spare if I need it.
That thing is huge and I bet it is not comfortable when using it.
Just ordered mine from the above link for $30.50 + 7.00 shipping.
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That thing is huge and I bet it is not comfortable when using it.
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The back cover has the same soft touch matte finish as the stock epic battery cover has.
Personally I don't mind the extra bulkiness, I just wished it was even like this:
Does anyone actually trust eBay batteries. I'm not so worried about the rating as I am about them exploding.
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Personally I don't mind the extra bulkiness, I just wished it was even like this:
Does anyone actually trust eBay batteries. I'm not so worried about the rating as I am about them exploding.
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I didn't see this battery but I've bought batteries off Ebay for my old Samsung Moment and for my Epic both of which were the stock sizes and OEM...they both turned out great...is this battery off Ebay also?
$40?! Forget that! I just read his little speech on how those cheap $10 batteries are garbage, his are the best blah blah blah...the same story EVERYONE says about everyone elses products. I wrote enough people on eBay who bought the $10 battery from this guy http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310271079152&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT that eBay stopped me from writing anymore people for another 24hrs I got replies from at least 1/2 the people I wrote who've had them for about 3-4 months and everyone of them ranted, raved and said they were quite surprised at how much better their battery life is compared to stock considering what they spent. Just one example:
Dear sirtecknight,
I was curious to see how your 3000mah battery is holding up? I'm considering getting one of their 3000mah batteries for my Samsung Epic and wanted to make sure that it actually increased battery life for you after charging.
- m5james
I am pleasantly surprised with the performance and, to be honest, quality of the 3000Mah battery and cover that I bought from this vendor. The 3000MaH battery lasts almost exactly twice as long as my 1400Mah batteries do. Also the oversized battery cover was actually alot nicer than I was expecting.
- sirtecknight
thephawx said:
Personally I don't mind the extra bulkiness, I just wished it was even like this:
Does anyone actually trust eBay batteries. I'm not so worried about the rating as I am about them exploding.
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The last time I was at the local Sprint store (replacement phone), two of the guys working there had EVO's and each had a seperate style of extended cover just like the two posted on this thread, and I prefer the version that is thicker from head-to-toe vs just a bump over the battery portion only. I've got an eBay battery in the mail and plan on grafting the i9000 bump onto my stock Epic cover and then wrapping the whole phone in 3M DiNOC carbon fiber.
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$40?! Forget that! I just read his little speech on how those cheap $10 batteries are garbage, his are the best blah blah blah...the same story EVERYONE says about everyone elses products. I wrote enough people on eBay who bought the $10 battery from this guy http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310271079152&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT that eBay stopped me from writing anymore people for another 24hrs I got replies from at least 1/2 the people I wrote who've had them for about 3-4 months and everyone of them ranted, raved and said they were quite surprised at how much better their battery life is compared to stock considering what they spent. Just one example:
Dear sirtecknight,
I was curious to see how your 3000mah battery is holding up? I'm considering getting one of their 3000mah batteries for my Samsung Epic and wanted to make sure that it actually increased battery life for you after charging.
- m5james
I am pleasantly surprised with the performance and, to be honest, quality of the 3000Mah battery and cover that I bought from this vendor. The 3000MaH battery lasts almost exactly twice as long as my 1400Mah batteries do. Also the oversized battery cover was actually alot nicer than I was expecting.
- sirtecknight
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I don't really get it you start off saying forget that the $10 knockoff batteries are cheap but then put a quote from a happily satisfied customer...??...and these batteries are 2800maH so idk which person your talking about but this is not the same company.
You're missing the whle context of my post. I said forget spending $40 on a battery and then stated I have proof otherwise about his statements, therefore disproving what the seller or the $40 claims in his entire ad in that the $10 batteries since they have in fact turned out to work quite well. When I say cheap about the $10 batteries, I was referencing price, not quality.
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You're missing the whle context of my post. I said forget spending $40 on a battery and then stated I have proof otherwise about his statements, therefore disproving what the seller or the $40 claims in his entire ad in that the $10 batteries since they have in fact turned out to work quite well. When I say cheap about the $10 batteries, I was referencing price, not quality.
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Ight comprende good point...they don't exactly seem that lidgidimate, but you just prooved me wrong I guess
I'm not trying to prove YOU wrong. My point is that the eBay seller with the $40 batteries is claiming that the $10 batteries are all garbage, which I've read otherwise. Today I charged my stock battery to 100% using the wall charger, reset my battery metering through Clockwork, run a bunch of streaming and video apps (Pandora, Slacker, TuneWiki, Skype, Fring and have a movie playing all at the same time) to kill the battery, turned the phone completely off & recharged and now I'm killing the battery again....timing the cycle each time. Once my 3000mah battery arrives, I will be doing the exact same thing so I can give myself a before and after.
2kmy477 said:
Just ordered mine from the above link for $30.50 + 7.00 shipping.
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Did you get it yet...the seller E-mailed me Friday and said they just shipped out from his warehouse?
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I'm not trying to prove YOU wrong. My point is that the eBay seller with the $40 batteries is claiming that the $10 batteries are all garbage, which I've read otherwise. Today I charged my stock battery to 100% using the wall charger, reset my battery metering through Clockwork, run a bunch of streaming and video apps (Pandora, Slacker, TuneWiki, Skype, Fring and have a movie playing all at the same time) to kill the battery, turned the phone completely off & recharged and now I'm killing the battery again....timing the cycle each time. Once my 3000mah battery arrives, I will be doing the exact same thing so I can give myself a before and after.
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I'm still waiting on the 2800mah battery did you get the 3000 yet...I'd like to know the improvements you get...I can get 20+ hours with medium usage on a good day?
Just received mine in the mail. Will be uploading pictures and a review here with some battery testing to follow in the next few days.
This is what I bought:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260697275156
These are selling for as low as 12 dollars shipped on ebay right now. INSANE deal at that price.
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Imgur gallery with a bunch more photos:
http://imgur.com/a/sjJB6/1bZGT
First impression:
The battery looks high quality from the outside. The new back that fits the monster battery is a soft touch plastic and fits amazingly well. It feels nice in the hand and actually fits in my holster. Its not as gigantic of an increase in size from stock, around 5mm.
The game gripper accessory works perfectly even with the new back installed.
Measurements:
3500 mAh
weight - 53.61 grams
thickness - 10mm
back cover weight - 13.55 grams
1500 mAh stock
weight - 32.23 grams
thickness - 5mm
back cover weight - 8.45 grams
TESTING:
Fully Charged at 5:42 EST 12/7/10
Phone turned itself off 2:51 EST 12/8/10
Plugged in 2:51 EST 12/8/10
Fully Charged 7:13 EST 12/8/10
Plugged in 12:37 EST 12/9/10
Fully Charged 6:30 EST 12/9/10
Average charging time using wall charger: 5 hours 10 minutes. (Subject to change due to low #'s of samples.)
Alright, I am going to test the Stock battery and compare it to the 3500 mAh by playing 720 Blu-Ray rips from 100% until the phone dies using RockPlayer and measuring the time. Brightness at full, Volume is max, Wifi on. This should be repeatable for various different users with various different batteries to give a benchmark for a batteries potential. The phone is running stock Froyo DK28, with no modifications to CPU speed. DRM services have been stopped.
Why am I testing the battery this way? Because it removes the most variables that I possibly can to convey to you the true potential of the battery. If I tested simply how long it took for the battery to die in my daily use, it brings texting, web use, game use, browsing, screen on time, wifi, 3g and everything else into the mix as variables, and my result will not mean anything to people who use their phone differently. This way, if you get X hours on the stock battery, you can do some simple math and roughly calculate without changing your behavior how long you will get on this battery.
Stock 1500 mAh:
Started 8:24 PM EST 12/8/10
Turned off 1:05 AM EST 12/9/10
Total time: 4 hours 41 minutes
Impressive to say the least.
3500 mAh:
Started 1:10 AM EST 12/9/10
Ended 10:28 AM EST 12/9/10
Total time: 9 hours 18 minutes
What does this all mean . . . .
So on the second total full charge of the battery, I am getting almost fully double the battery life of the stock battery. That is very impressive, especially considering this is only the second full charge the battery has undergone.
http://batteryboss.org/
You can see that OEM batteries typically have between 95-98% real world to rated mAh. So doing some quick math, as I did on page 2, this battery should have between 2829 - 2919 mAh in real world capacity. That places it at 80-83.5% of rated capacity, which is in line with the 3500 mAh Seido battery for the evo. That makes this battery an exceptional value.
Update:
This in no way gaurantees that you will see the same battery life and is a pretty useless figure all around because my usage and signal strength and everything else differs from all of you. But yes, the battery is capable of it. Over a hundred hours of battery life without using juicedefender.
I might try it, especially if it's only $18.
How much of an increase on battery life did you notice?
Overstew said:
I might try it, especially if it's only $18.
How much of an increase on battery life did you notice?
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Just got it like an hour ago. Gonna take a few days at least before I can determine the battery life of it. Will be updating the original post as I go.
Plan to charge it to 100% early this evening. Calibrate it. Destroy it overnight with movies and whatever playing in a loop. Wake up and recharge it timing how long it takes to recharge.
Then the testing begins.
Very good. Keep it updated. I'll keep an eye on the eBay ad.
Can you post a video?
- Its just going to be Epic!
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Can you post a video?
- Its just going to be Epic!
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Sadly the Epic4g is the only video camera I own. I will be taking a bunch more photos as well as giving precise weights and measurements of the battery to come, once it dies after the first rundown tonight or tomorrow.
muyosa, i got the same. if you read the seido's version, it will tell you to leave it plugged in for another 2/3 hours for maximum performance. However, when the blue led comes on, i notice that my phone stops charging and the battery begins to drop.
To get around this, have it plugged in and in use either playing music, on the phone, or tethered. This will keep it charging when it's at 100%. You should calibrate it from there
I forgot to calibrate it but i charged it to 100%. So far, it's pretty good. It appears to be giving me at least double the amount of juice on stock froyo.
Does the back cover have a lump or is it strait so it makes the phone look even from the back? Any links to the seller and how long did the shipping take?
My sister also has an epic and is awaiting to see mine when it gets here.
I ordered the 2800 one from moretalktime last night cause of the review.
And the back cover has a lump ,which the low part of the cover fits flush with the camera.
Never mind it has a lump on it...do you guys think the back cover that is flush which makes the camera lens seem like if its in a hole ,would interfere with the lighting and shadowing of the camera lens ?
I ordered it on November 25th. It arrived today. If it had a flat back, then there would be a large empty space in the back of the phone. Also, the camera would be affected if the case was bulgy all the way. Even the Seido case reduces all around the camera to the stock thickness.
I'm looking forward to seeing the #'s you get and try to find a camera from onna ya boys to do a youtube reveiw at some point...you see the #'s I got with my Yoobao 2800mAh.
Thanks for taking your time and posting.
What kind of thickness are you from the back?
Are all the ebay back's out currently the same? (besides Sedio)
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Thanks for taking your time and posting.
What kind of thickness are you from the back?
Are all the ebay back's out currently the same? (besides Sedio)
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Not a prollem...and I know this is official stuff but am I the only one who'd like to see a (no homo) after u say somethin like "what kind of thickness are you from the back" lol...
But anyway...the stock cover is 1.5cm from back to front and the extended back is precisely 2.0cm adding .5cm total....doesn't inconvenience functionality one bit and actually is a nice grip to hold onto while holding the phone portrait ways upright.
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Updated the original post with some initial testing. Battery is looking pretty damn strong so far.
To clarify, the math I did to obtain the true mAh of the 3500mAh battery is as follows.
Assuming the stock battery is truly 1500mAh and it ran for 281 minutes:
1500/281=5.33807 -> mA per minute used while playing HD video
The 3500 mAh battery played HD video for 558 minutes, thus:
5.33807*558=2978 -> Crude estimate of true battery capacity
I adjusted the rating of the stock battery to 95-98% of 1500 to make the estimates a bit more accurate in the original post. This is only a representation of the method I used to obtain those numbers, which again are crude estimates.
If I have made some giant mistake, someone please correct me.
Edit: Updated original post with a link to more photos.
I ordered this battery last week and I can't wait to get it! Thanks for the update
I got the battery couple of days ago. Seems to be great so far and an awsome deal at $18.00. I might just get another one as backup.
Just bought one, 12 bucks with free shipping...can't beat that.
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Just bought one, 12 bucks with free shipping...can't beat that.
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Yea, at that price I am tempted to just get another one. Don't know what I would use it for though, since this one lasts me all I need.
I just bought this one. Can't wait to get it!
http://cgi.ebay.com/B181-Extended-Battery-Cover-Samsung-Epic-4G-3500mAh-/140484945816?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20b58e2798
Only $12.20. lol
Thanks for the great review, The only thing I don't understand is the measurement. Is the phone size doubled?
3500 mAh
thickness - 10mm
1500 mAh stock
thickness - 5mm
Because reading the yaboo review he say's:
1.5cm back to front with stock battery cover.
2.0cm back to front with extended battery cover.
So this means that the yaboo cover is thinner than the 3500mh one's? I assumed that they were all the same size.
$12.00! hahhaha. Such a deal. ahhahaha. I just ordered this one too. Now I will have three hi capacity batteries for my Epic. SOmeone please stop me. hahahah.
Since i upgraded from my htc dream which had a custom japan made 2430 Mah battery iv been searching for the same thing for my O2x and iv found it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2430MAH-F...069?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2eb76a1fad
Its the same asize as the original battery so no gay larger backs for the phone just longer life and more time gaming and browsing, just dont buy them all ill be getting one in a couple of days.
Since they have the tech to put more power into small sized batterys it makes me wonder why these big phone makers dont use these higher capacity batterys instead of giving you some peice of **** that barely lasts a few hours of real use.
Already posted this in the optimus 2x forum but in case you guys dont check that section i assume both version of the phone use the same battery so it should be compatable.
Thanks. I just bought one...I'll update after it arrives. For $20 it was worth a shot.
Just ordered mine tired of my extended battery
To Begin with thanks for the information about the battery . Just ordered one can't wait, i like my extended battery but the case is to bulky and can't use it with my dock so hopefully this battery does the work i guess when it comes in i will test it out. But overall thanks for this thread !
Interesting. Defiently be waiting for some reviews.
I wish you luck -- many secondary market batteries get the higher mAH ratings by a variety of not so good practices the most common of which is listing the mAH obtainable if the battery is _completely_ discharged. The problem with measuring it this way is two-fold:
Your phone(and the battery) should shut off before reaching total discharge -- this renders the usable mAH as a less than advertised amount.
If you manage to completely discharge a Li-ion battery completely, the damages it's lifespan, and can make it dangerous to charge.
I'm not saying that particular battery has any problems, or has a inflated mAH rating. Just an observation on common(unsavory) practices in the secondary market.
I would be very interested if these batteries turn out to have an increased usable capacity -- I have some other projects I could use them in.
references: energy density
a 2430 mAH Li-ion would ideally weigh at least 5.25 grams
and would ideally be 2.73 cm^3 in volume
the above figures do not include the housing and protective circuitry.
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I wish you luck -- many secondary market batteries get the higher mAH ratings by a variety of not so good practices the most common of which is listing the mAH obtainable if the battery is _completely_ discharged. The problem with measuring it this way is two-fold:
Your phone(and the battery) should shut off before reaching total discharge -- this renders the usable mAH as a less than advertised amount.
If you manage to completely discharge a Li-ion battery completely, the damages it's lifespan, and can make it dangerous to charge.
I'm not saying that particular battery has any problems, or has a inflated mAH rating. Just an observation on common(unsavory) practices in the secondary market.
I would be very interested if these batteries turn out to have an increased usable capacity -- I have some other projects I could use them in.
references: energy density
a 2430 mAH Li-ion would ideally weigh at least 5.25 grams
and would ideally be 2.73 cm^3 in volume
the above figures do not include the housing and protective circuitry.
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I agree with you and the false advertisement of battery capacity ratings out there. If you look at Amazon one particular brand PRODICELL has been accused by many buyers of false advertisement. They list higher mAH ratings than their batteries than they really are. The put their own label on top of the cheaper generic batteries. Not only that, it seems their employees have been posting FAKE positive reviews on their batteries to boost their ratings. FYI. I would be cautious of batteries that claim a higher mAH rating especially if it is the same size as the regular battery.
Note how this one customer tested the battery to determine the mAH ratings were false.
http://www.amazon.com/review/RPYUC3...4TGZ6SM&nodeID=&tag=&linkCode=#wasThisHelpful
Ratings for G2X battery
http://www.amazon.com/ProdiCell-Pre...NXXE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1315851180&sr=8-3
Fake reviews by poster Quill
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member..._pr_auth_rev?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview
Fake reviews by poster Liam
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member..._pr_auth_rev?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview
Made in Japan doesn't mean sold with honor. Often you will find a new label behind the stock one with different stats. haha
Only real way to check the capacity is to drain it and record how long it takes for the voltage to drop to the minimum for the cell. It will fall off very fast.
I can't wait to see the results on how long this battery can last. If this thing can last a full 24 hours with moderate use then this is the battery for me. That gold wrapper on the battery looks very appealing but for some reason it makes me think this battery is BS (You can wrap a piece of **** in gold, but in the end it is what it is). Damn, it's been a very long time since I have purchased something actually made in japan.
I suspect it is built similar to my 1980 andida, where it is slightly larger and heavier than stock, but still able to fit in the stock space. At least I hope it is, and I didn't just support terrorism.
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xxtruplayaxx16 said:
Is it possible for that kind of power to be packed into a battery the size of the stock one? I hope someone with battery knowledge can shed some light on this.
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i am wondering the same thing because i'm not a fan of the extended battery covers at all
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I suspect it is built similar to my 1980 andida, where it is slightly larger and heavier than stock, but still able to fit in the stock space. At least I hope it is, and I didn't just support terrorism.
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how much longer of a battery life do you get from the 1980 andida?
mmapcpro said:
I suspect it is built similar to my 1980 andida, where it is slightly larger and heavier than stock, but still able to fit in the stock space. At least I hope it is, and I didn't just support terrorism.
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lol thats the one i'm using right now...honestly i didnt notice any difference, it neva made it thru the day
I noticed ion the pic of that battery it is labelled li-on polymer which would make a difference if true. Li-on polymer > li-on.
I also be waiting for results of these batteries.
Thank you in advanced.
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Waiting for review, thanks for the info.
FYI...some further reviews of this brand of batteries on other phones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17484730&postcount=16
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FYI...some further reviews of this brand of batteries on other phones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17484730&postcount=16
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Thanks for the link smoothmouse.. I just read all the posts on the links you provided, and to sum it all up this battery is garbage, basura, spazzatura, ordures, abfalle. Read the HTC Sensation thread in the link smoothmouse posted if you want to see for yourself, but if you want the quick answer: DON'T mess with this battery!
People who bought this for the Sensation noticed it drained quicker than stock; there is another guy on there claiming it fried his phone.
ZiZi_G2X said:
Thanks for the link smoothmouse.. I just read all the posts on the links you provided, and to sum it all up this battery is garbage, basura, spazzatura, ordures, abfalle. Read the HTC Sensation thread in the link smoothmouse posted if you want to see for yourself, but if you want the quick answer: DON'T mess with this battery!
People who bought this for the Sensation noticed it drained quicker than stock; there is another guy on there claiming it fried his phone.
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Im not saying these guys are lieing but ill say this it may well be user mistakes.
When you replace a battery on an android phone sometimes you need to reset battery stats or it will keep using the stats from the previous battery and will appear as tho the battery is draining faster, as for it exploding any lithium battery can do this but its 1 in every million batterys made.
I am a bit suspicious of why there is chinese writing on the front since its unlikely to be shiped from japan to china any thing chinese should be avoided at all costs but soon as i get a little extra cash im gonna get one of these because i bought one for my htc dream a while back and it worked without any problems so maybe im just not an idiot and remember to do simple thing like resetting battery stats or just got lucky and got a good one from the production line.
Wrap something up in a pretty gold package, say its BIGGER, BETTER, FASTER, GREATER and the suckers will come out the wood works dying to spend money on it knowing full well that its crap from the start. The human being is a strange animal indeed.
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I found this battery that's the same size as the stock G2X battery but you can get up to 27 days use out of it on a single charge. It charges from zero to full in 79 seconds! It powered the International Space Station for the last 74 years - On A Single Charge OMG!!! Its solar powered. Nuclear powered. Has a built in windmill turbine! Dead car battery? Hook this sucker up and you won't need gas for a year!!! All On One 79 Second Charge! It floats, flies, can suck a golf ball through 20 feet of garden hose! Its the chef of the future here today! All this for the low unbelievable price of $3.99 - SHIPPED!!! That's not all!!! Order in the next 43 years and we'll DOUBLE your order!!! For Free!!! That's Right!!! TWO Batteries of the future for the low unbelievable price of $3.99!!!!
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dkb218 said:
Wrap something up in a pretty gold package, say its BIGGER, BETTER, FASTER, GREATER and the suckers will come out the wood works dying to spend money on it knowing full well that its crap from the start. The human being is a strange animal indeed.
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I completely agree with you on that one.
Hey all,
Went to local third party sprint store asked if they sold any batteries, was told no. Waited until I ran into the manager who I'm cool with and asked again, he said "not really, we only carry batteries for the EVO 3d" I said sweet thats the one I want may I buy one? I figured maybe they weren't for sale sale but for tech purposes I don't know I don't really care he said he'd sell me one, and I made sure to pay in cash just in case he was tryin to get his hustle on which is fine with me, I paid $25 flat which seems pretty in line with what the genuine HTC battery costs shipped etc..
ROM: Android Revolution HD
Am sitting on 2% battery left right now, and android says it's been 18hrs 0ms 37 sec on battery: bear in mind where I travel I deal with a lot of edge to hspa transfers and it says "time without a signal" 37%. Also my phone is clocked at 1.5ghz.
Voice calls: 1hr 10min 26 sec
Display time on (texts, web surfing): 2h 16m 14 sec
Wifi use: 34 mins
Accounts:
facebook (every hour)
gmail
work exchange (push) (at least 10 emails with attachments a day, I set to download attach automatically)
school exchange (push)
weather (every hour)
I freely used the crap out of my phone today took off the charger at around 8am this morning, its 2:06am at night, its still alive.
Usually when I come in the door at like 9pm I'm scurrying to find a charger, but this bad boy outperforms the original battery BIG TIME, and I hope my scenario above (in terms of real numbers and stuff) helps those who are wondering about this battery.
PROS:
MUCH MUCH more battery life
CONS:
Instantly noticed the extra bit of weight to the phone (I enjoy it though, makes it feel more solid)
Takes longer to charge.
Any questions let me know, talk to your third party sprint stores (they are the only ones that do repairs and would probably have this battery on hand) and pay in CASH lol.
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Cheers mate.. that was a very indepth conclusion
ill probs go out and buy one over the next coming weeks
does it add any buldge to the back case? ie is it even very slightly bigger?
Thanks!
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Cheers mate.. that was a very indepth conclusion
ill probs go out and buy one over the next coming weeks
does it add any buldge to the back case? ie is it even very slightly bigger?
Thanks!
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It's 1mm thicker. I don't know how it fits in case because I don't have one.
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Any questions let me know, talk to your third party sprint stores (they are the only ones that do repairs and would probably have this battery on hand)
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Do you notice if the phone runs warmer with this battery over stock?
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In regards to the battery size:
Soon as I popped it in, there was no issue whatsoever snapping the back cover on, fits like a glove, no bulge or anything, device feels slightly more heavier however. You use the original battery door, does not come with a larger one.
In regards to the battery being warmer:
I've only seen it go to 96f watching netflix movie, right now sitting on my desk it says 80f, last night when it got a little colder, I can only assume that its VERY close to the unibody and with the metal cooled it was at 66f.
The reason why I chose to have the 1730mAh over the anker 1900 is because of the information that I've come across from this gentleman d0ugie and his website batteryboss.
You can clearly see as an example a genuine htc nexus one battery of 1400mAh tested in at 1357mAh actual capacity VERSUS a seidio nexus one 1600mAh battery testing in at 1305mAh actual capacity.
Through his testing you can CLEARLY see that genuine HTC batteries in terms of their actual ratings against their claims are nearly 90% accurate.
Why would you go buy a 1900mAh battery with crappy cells/manufacturing that ACTUALLY rates in at like 1730mAh or possibly LESS, who knows I don't have the equipment. But I don't buy off brand batteries anymore because of the information on that site.
Hope it helps you guys make the better choice. Cheers
very good, thx, i think i will buy the HTC EVO 3D Battery.
I was gonna ask about the temp difference with the stock battery? Is it noticeable?
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I was gonna ask about the temp difference with the stock battery? Is it noticeable?
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I am using Evo 3D battery now (order from Ebay), really better battery life... As for the temperature, same usage with Stock Sensation battery, i cannot notice any difference as it doesnt get too hot on my phone.
im running the same as you ARHD and evo3d battery. weight gain definitely. unfortunately for me the results differ from my experience. i dont see a notice in change. maybe because ive been on my phone for the majority of the time messing with my settings. who knows. ill report back if my battery stats begin to change.
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I'm going to buy the 1900 anker battery soon. Hopefully i will see an improvement.
also bought an original HTC Evo 3D battery. Notice a slight improvement in duration, but wonder if it was worth the 25 euro's. Advantage is that I now have two batteries and can exchange them if juice runs out.
Picked up this MPJ out off their website for $17.99 because I CANNOT find it on Amazon.
WHERE I BUY
A backup battery means a lot to me as my Galaxy S5 is running many apps, even though battery life on this phone is already an impressive part. Just received mine with a small bag, unwrapped and put it in. It seems a little larger than stock battery, ensuring a snug fit.
The 2800mAh to 4300mAh bump isn’t there for sure but there is still some increase. I’ll update soon after 2-3 times charging cycles.
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After I fully charged it 3 times, it seemed to do great. This is my moderate to quite heavily day yesterday. With almost same usages (no auto brightness, average web browsing, bunch of streaming videos, texting, calling and etc.), stock downs to 20-30% by the time I went to bed and the new battery I'm at about 45%.
EDIT: Do not expect seeing any dramatic changes. Normally improving 10-15%, and there are several times, depending on my usages, where it up to 15%-20%.
6+ hrs on screen is my best by far and this is including 4-5 hrs of idle and light/moderate using, and only 1-2 hrs of heavy browsing, texting, etc. Have been also skeptical and hesitated about whether to pick up this without many reviews but on second thought, I can be the first and share my experience if that’s a real good. YMMV, I am not thinking about if they are spending money on promoting the well-knowness for their company, as far as I can tell, it is working fine on MY GS5.
tenderfoots said:
A backup battery means a lot to me as my Galaxy S5 is running many apps, even though battery life on this phone is already an impressive part. Just received mine with a small bag, unwrapped and put it in. It seems a little larger than stock battery, ensuring a snug fit.
The 2800mAh to 4300mAh bump isn’t there for sure but there is still some increase. I’ll update soon after 2-3 times charging cycles.
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Won't this affect the IP67?
btort1 said:
Won't this affect the IP67?
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wondering the same thing. This battery doesn't seem too expensive.
I'm really interested in a real capacity test of this battery
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btort1 said:
Won't this affect the IP67?
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It shouldn't seeing how it can use the original back.
I also to would like to see the stats on this baby because of the no extra bulk.
where did you get it?
I was about to post about this same battery! I ordered it on Amazon for about $5. I hope it is better than the stock battery! Here's a link if interested.
http://www.amazon.com/4300mAh-Capac...qid=1398390303&sr=8-2&keywords=galaxy+s5+4300
Interested to see how this battery works For long term use. Wonder if it effects the phone any?
Oh sweet, Thank you! =)
These batteries don't hold quite the charge the OEM batteries do, but it'll last a good 8 hours. I ordered a pair of these batteries and I'll see how long they last (Hyperion batteries have a good track record with my phones).
JGillis2391 said:
I was about to post about this same battery! I ordered it on Amazon for about $5. I hope it is better than the stock battery! Here's a link if interested.
http://www.amazon.com/4300mAh-Capac...qid=1398390303&sr=8-2&keywords=galaxy+s5+4300
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thanks...for $5 why not.
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JGillis2391 said:
I was about to post about this same battery! I ordered it on Amazon for about $5. I hope it is better than the stock battery! Here's a link if interested.
http://www.amazon.com/4300mAh-Capac...qid=1398390303&sr=8-2&keywords=galaxy+s5+4300
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You really don't expect those $5 being better than the original one.. do you..?
jrubenc said:
You really don't expect those $5 being better than the original one.. do you..?
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Nope, so I bought 3 of them. at 6 dollars a piece, and no shipping, even if i get one thats semi-decent it's better than no spare are all and I was making my way through a battery and a half per day on my S4.
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4300 mHa Battery
I'm a very heavy user of my smartphone. When i had my Galaxy S4 i was going through a battery and a half per day. When i saw these batteries i thought i'd give them a try. I though 6 bucks, each, bought 3 of them for the hell of it. So in the old phrase of you get what you pay for is absolutely true in this case.
These batteries even say "Long Lasting High Capacity Li-ion battery" and are a 4300mAh battery, where the stock is 2800mAh. So in theory these batteries are 45% bigger than stock and should give me relatively 45% more time in operation of my smartphone on a single charge.
What it has given me is a great deal less. My S5 on the OEM battery would last from when i unplugged it at 6am to usually 5:30 or 6 at night before I hit the 30% alert. I just checked and my phone is currently 4H 50M 06S in and I am down to 38%. This battery as it sits is a complete waste of money.
Now as they were only 6 bucks each I did buy 3 so I will try the other two over the next couple days but if they are the same, then my suggestion is do not buy this product.
I just went with this one. Guess we'll see. I'll update a couple weeks after it gets here. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JIL7C5S/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
slight22 said:
Nope, so I bought 3 of them. at 6 dollars a piece, and no shipping, even if i get one thats semi-decent it's better than no spare are all and I was making my way through a battery and a half per day on my S4.
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Makes sense, yes After all, no matter how advanced the phone is: the more advanced, the more battery eats.
Hum... I don't know if this battery i sreally a 4300mah...
Someone test the battery recently ?
I'm using this "brand" ( well, these printed labels ) since the S1 series.
They may not be the full 3800Mah capacity, but they always give me a full day of operation ( depending on the use offcourse )
I'm not able to test the capacity-claims ( because I don't know how )
All I know is the length of operation.
On the S2 and Note1 the power was slightly smaller, my order is coming in a few days
Will report back
Spartagek said:
I'm using this "brand" ( well, these printed labels ) since the S1 series.
They may not be the full 3800Mah capacity, but they always give me a full day of operation ( depending on the use offcourse )
I'm not able to test the capacity-claims ( because I don't know how )
All I know is the length of operation.
On the S2 and Note1 the power was slightly smaller, my order is coming in a few days
Will report back
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I can't wait for ZeroLemon to release theirs. It was worth every millimeter of extra hugeness on my S4.
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Hum... I don't know if this battery i sreally a 4300mah...
Someone test the battery recently ?
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It is the same dimension so I assume 20%~ more.
I ordered this one the other day http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JB5OGWS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 shipped out today shall see how it goes.