[Q] Youtube and HD playback questions - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Had a couple of questions on the Youtube HD playback issues.
1) There is a lag in playing Youtube HD videos in both the app and the browser using Flash. Flash 10.2 with HC 3.1 claims to fix the browser playback issue. Does the Youtube app also use Flash for playback ? Does HC 3.1 fix the app playback issue also ?
2) The YT app has an option called HQ, but doesn't specify if its 480 or 720p. Any idea what resolution it plays the video under HQ option ?

Any takers on this

I like better the mobile site version of YouTube and it plays videos a lot better than the full desktop site version.

Both have lagged for me (the app and the mobile site). I'm pretty sure the YouTube app works without flash installed, so not sure how a flash update will fix it.
I'm going to download the latest Flash when it's released (10.3) and try it out.

CoBrA2168 said:
Both have lagged for me (the app and the mobile site). I'm pretty sure the YouTube app works without flash installed, so not sure how a flash update will fix it.
I'm going to download the latest Flash when it's released (10.3) and try it out.
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Flash 10.3 appear as released for me, both on the Transformer and HTC EVO (already installed)

mine doesnt play
clicked a video, and it will change screen to load but jumped right back to the list of videos

CoBrA2168 said:
Both have lagged for me (the app and the mobile site). I'm pretty sure the YouTube app works without flash installed, so not sure how a flash update will fix it.
I'm going to download the latest Flash when it's released (10.3) and try it out.
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That's interesting to me at least. The CNN app plays videos in full screen without lag or chopping frames, while the native Youtube app does lag and they both don't use flash. This makes me skeptical, if 3.1 would fix the issue with the playback lag in the app.

dark_aura said:
Flash 10.3 appear as released for me, both on the Transformer and HTC EVO (already installed)
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How's 10.3? Any better?

Not really, performance wise. We need honeycomb 3.1 and flash with hardware acceleration!

fropirate said:
Not really, performance wise. We need honeycomb 3.1 and flash with hardware acceleration!
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That's right, the 10.3 can be installed on 3.0.1, but the hardware acceleration stuff is for 3.1+
The other things this update have are security fixes for 3.0+

The 10.3 update seems to pretty much fix my Youtube lag problems. And a lot of the update might be for 3.1, but the release notes indicate it enables hardware acceleration by default on 3.0+ devices. So it should have helped you guys.

Strangely, the choppy playback in the app seems to be a non-issue on the Xoom, even on 3.0.1. So, makes me think what the issue could be on the Transformer

after updating to 10.3 my web flash seems smoother... even at 720p its definately watchable and seems decent... the app seems to still be a bit choppy... maybe not as bad (hard to say)...

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet as a workaround for the youtube app stuttering but it worked for me.
Install Dolphin HD and set the user agent to iPad.
Then when you touch play on a youtube vid choose Dolphin HD again if you get the app menu. DON'T CHOOSE THE YOUTUBE APP.
Dolphin should then load the default media player app and play the mp4 stream off of youtube instead of using Flash. Most HD vids were a lot smoother for me.

Punchatron said:
Don't know if this has been mentioned yet as a workaround for the youtube app stuttering but it worked for me.
Install Dolphin HD and set the user agent to iPad.
Then when you touch play on a youtube vid choose Dolphin HD again if you get the app menu. DON'T CHOOSE THE YOUTUBE APP.
Dolphin should then load the default media player app and play the mp4 stream off of youtube instead of using Flash. Most HD vids were a lot smoother for me.
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Tried this and doesn't work for me. Problem still exists

I'm working on a review of the Transformer and I emailed my ASUS PR rep.. speaking of Youtube, I asked him about this and his response was:
As for 720P+ fullscreen playback in Flash, this will be fixed in 3.1 as it will allow Hardware Acceleration for Flash, so for once Adobe is waiting on the OS guys to implement something first.
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jyan_osu said:
I'm working on a review of the Transformer and I emailed my ASUS PR rep.. speaking of Youtube, I asked him about this and his response was:
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Yes, that would fix the flash playback issue. But, how about the playback lag in the Youtube app ? Does 3.1 fix it too ?

Srikar_NBK said:
Yes, that would fix the flash playback issue. But, how about the playback lag in the Youtube app ? Does 3.1 fix it too ?
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Yes that will be fixed with 3.1. I emailed him for clarification on the YouTube app being fixed and he said yes
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jyan_osu said:
Yes that will be fixed with 3.1. I emailed him for clarification on the YouTube app being fixed and he said yes
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Thanks. That really clarifies it. Will wait for 3.1

OK I returned my TF at PC Richards today and got a replacement. The speaker volume out of sync is gone in the new piece. The Youtube app playback is also much better in full screen, although it still lags for some videos. Also updated to the firmware .9 and things seem to be smoother. The audio fidelity also seems to have improved surely in this new piece. I'm more happy now

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Flash 10.1 beta 2 is out - did anybody try it?

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
Adobe Flash Player 10.1 beta 2 for Android (2.2) FroYo is now available
The Adobe Flash Player 10.1 beta 2 for Android 2.2 is now available for download on Android Market for the Google Nexus One and other devices that support Android 2.2. Flash Player 10.1 beta 2 for Android enables your device to access the full web - which includes all your favorite videos, games, interactive media and web applications.
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To download (only from the phone, only for Froyo):
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html#android
Post your thoughts .
does anybody know what has changed?
Official release notes :
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player_10.1_for_Android#Fixed_Issues
Does a page with flash content still lag? this was the reason why i removed Flash.
I'm note able downloading it, my market doesn't show the flashplayer anymore...
eug89 said:
I'm note able downloading it, my market doesn't show the flashplayer anymore...
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my market shows it but it fails to download everytime. if someone has an .apk available for manual install that would be awesome.
Here it is: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1611645/Adobe Flash Player 10.1 10.1.72.4.apk
I tried it. Pre-update, flash videos were a little choppy. Post-update, they're as smooth as silk. Well, the ones I tested were. I've heard of some people still getting choppy playback.
As for the above mentioned issue of flash lagging sites out, change the plugins option to 'on demand' in the browser settings. Then flash content will only load when you want it to load.
The new update fixed a lot of issues. I have re-enabled Flash now...
Ive been using its, some of lag has been finxed, its more fluid i find.
Still doesn't work in xScope. =(
hardware accelerated so it's smoother. long tap to full screen works good.
sites tested using nexus one froyo:
m.flash.com
nba.com
espn.com
justin.tv
channelsurfing.net
I wouldn't say it works good. It works, but I'm a long way from impressed. Long tap works 1/4 times, the other times you get some strange results. Either nothing happens, the video stops, loads another page etc. Playback is usually very choppy or laggy. channelsurfing.net was choppy and justin.tv barely played at all.
watched episodes of house on justin.tv on 3g and it's smooth on fullscreen mode.
could be there a reason I can't find flash in the market? It was there till the other day...
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http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
To download (only from the phone, only for Froyo):
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html#android
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ONLY available for the Nexus One Froyo release. Not available on the market to Droid owners who are on Froyo. DAMMIT!
daemondemise said:
hardware accelerated so it's smoother. long tap to full screen works good.
sites tested using nexus one froyo:
m.flash.com
nba.com
espn.com
justin.tv
channelsurfing.net
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It's still not hardware accelerated but it is smoother. They fixed some memory leaks and did minor optimization.
The major change that I really liked was the fullscreen option on long tap. It makes interacting with flash much easier.
maedox said:
I wouldn't say it works good. It works, but I'm a long way from impressed. Long tap works 1/4 times, the other times you get some strange results. Either nothing happens, the video stops, loads another page etc. Playback is usually very choppy or laggy. channelsurfing.net was choppy and justin.tv barely played at all.
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justin.tv plays great for me, very smooth!
I picked it up in the market a couple of days ago - fancast works perfectly, as do any sites that pepper me with Flash ads. Oh, and Disney's site works as well.
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Is it just me or does Disney employ half of the world's Flash devs? ESPN, Disney, ABC sites are all brimming with the stuff. [/ASIDE]
is there anyone that can upload the apk, I still can't install it off the market even having reverted back to my stock install with no root/oc/uv enabled, fails at the install every time.
edit: nevermind, found it in general

3.1 flash performance .. whats yours like

Hello, I just got my update and was excited because its meant to boost HD flash performance, however when I go to YouTube and choose 720p its still pritty choppy,
What's your opinion?
ive seen a coupoe of people mention that youtube in a browser isnt performing as well as the app. Have you tried the app?
edit: In fact ve just tried the same video in browser and the app, the in browser was barely watchable but the app was perfect
Yea the app is perfect. But its not just YouTube.com, if I go to engadget and click on a video in HD then its choppy.
After the 3.1 update for the xoom the 720p playback is smooth... should be here also?
with honeycomb 3.1,480p is my limit... when it hits 720p its not watchable, only audio plays well and it gets pretty laggy etc. Asus needs to fix these small bugs
Yes my YouTube app is fine but trying to play a 720p video from say daily mobile is very choppy
sent from my LEE Pad Transformer........I wish
Yea its strange seeing as the xoom plays 720p fine after 3.1 update
Is anyone else having problems watching certain vids on the App on 3.0.1 i got force closes trying to Watch Mortal Kombat Legacy, still the same with 3.1
I just tried my test video, and it is leaps and bounds better than it was yesterday. I'm happy enough
whats ya test video ? And how did it play before?
Its plays 720 p that's not the issue,its when there's a video on a website it struggles with it
Try this video see if it lags
http://dailymobile.se/2011/05/31/android-get-plants-vs-zombies-free-today-from-amazon-app-store/
sent from my LEE Pad Transformer........I wish
yea doesn't play on mine, but IV seen videos play on the xoom in 720p.. dnt get it
Maybe this is the reason that Apple refused to support Flash on their devices.
Lol not really, I love flash, had a go on a I pad day, couldn't even load the page I wanted, 720p flash works on the xoom, so it should here, its meant to be hardware accelerated
So, i'm not the only one who can't play 720p flash videos. Every video i tried there is stuttering. It's not smooth in the browser.
BTW: I have a a problem with my abos in the youtube. I'ts crashing every time i click on the section in the app. This is really annoying.
Yea for some reason its not as good as the xoom on 3.1.. that's gay
Anyone else getting Force closes playing certain videos as apposed to stuttered or degraded playing? Mortal Kombat Webisodes force closes the app and that's the only one so far. Anyone else getting the same?
Yea I got force close on mk
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Has the screen sensitivity improved?
2 things to try:
1. On the stock browser, set the plug-ins in the settings to "on demand". That way you don't have banner flash ads rolling while you try to launch the embedded flash video.
2. Try it on Opera mobile or Dolphin HD with the same "on demand" settings and see if that fixes the browser video flash issue.
Youtube app uses regular mp4, no flash
Best comparison would be to go to youtube.com and look at the the videos
Youtube App is way faster though, full screen has no lags, but i havnt tried it on the site yet

Youtube force closes with machinima videos?

Anyone know why any video by machinima will automaticly force close? That person posts the very best videos? Can a OP in youtube block youtube apps from viewing?
Is this the youtube app or youtube web that crashes?
If you post a link of a video that's been giving you problems, I'm sure we can test it for you
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EP2008 said:
Is this the youtube app or youtube web that crashes?
If you post a link of a video that's been giving you problems, I'm sure we can test it for you
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Only in the youtube app , try and search mortal kombat legacy for example, thx for testing it out to
definitely crashes. I've had this problem the whole time i've had my transformer. It will play in the browser but at no higher than 480p. always crashes the youtube app.
Yea only with videos posted by machinima ? and since broswer flash is so laggy with 720p I have to watch the videos in junk mode. Hope there will be a fix for this
Crashing for me too. How strange! I did notice that when I loaded the web version ,they have a LOT of link annotations at the beginning of their videos... maybe that's crashing the youtube app?
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Ran into this issue as well, both in the native app and the stock browser. I found a link from a different user for the same video and it worked fine.
With the youtube app it is very important that you register the google id that your transformer uses with youtube (i.e. set up a new account if it doesn't already have one), Then make sure you are signed in when using the app.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinima
This is my issue as well. Seems like a very specific bug too. I have had FC's on a smattering of other videos, but always on Machinima ones.
Edit: I decided to try the same video on a whim on my Nexus One and it works fine (even in HQ). This is definitely nothing to do with it being mobile, it has something to do with the HC app.
that explains...
...why whenever I go to the subscriptions page it crashes the app.
yup, unsbscribed and the app no longer crashes on subscription screen... browse to machanima and it crashes. wonder what it is about machanima that the android app hates...
You can use the JetVD application from jetvd dot com to watch the video stream from YouTube.
TF101 said:
yup, unsbscribed and the app no longer crashes on subscription screen... browse to machanima and it crashes. wonder what it is about machanima that the android app hates...
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It crashes on all honey comb tablets (galaxy tab, acer, asus, xoom) within the native youtube app
Works flawlessly on the ipad 2 though
Is there a bug report for this somewhere that we can add some weight to? I couldn't work out what the hell was causing the crashes but now I've unsubscribed it works fine. Seems like a really odd bug.
Hopefully it'll get fixed soon as its one of my favourite channels.
Inversion said:
Is there a bug report for this somewhere that we can add some weight to? I couldn't work out what the hell was causing the crashes but now I've unsubscribed it works fine. Seems like a really odd bug.
Hopefully it'll get fixed soon as its one of my favourite channels.
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has anyone else found any kind of fix for this yet? Machinima is the largest content of videos in my subscription list and I'm finding it increasingly annoying that I can't watch them in the native app.
is there a fix for this?
using tab 10.1 and having the same problem
jambu21 said:
is there a fix for this?
using tab 10.1 and having the same problem
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The mortal combat legacy video frm Machinima is workin fine on my Eee pAd Transformer no crash !!!
ASUS Eee Pad Transformer B80
Revolver 3.9.5 + Stock Kernel
Tell me more videos will test and let u guyz knw !!! If u want !!!

[Q] Slow youtube???? HELP!

my youtube app is loading videos up but it takes TOOOOOO LONG!!! sometimes it wont even load it up itll just say error
this happened like a month
i was eb 2.3.5 v2.3 ( something like that but the data was fast on this rom) now im on miui and data is working fine for everything else like browsing or widgets etc.
now even on wifi or not my youtube videos wont even load up
the thumbnail and comments and everything else besides the video loads up fine
but now idk what to do
anyone????
Update your flash player, uninstall youtube app and re-install.
Joseg1320 said:
Update your flash player, uninstall youtube app and re-install.
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i did that
still the same thing
Mine plays fine just watched a few videos in HQ on cellular data, and tried on wi-fi no issues here...
using ultimate 2.2 rom
This really pisses me off. I watch YouTube like all the time. I have a G2 and that has no problems.
G2x just has issues and this YouTube debacle is like the final insult. Browser has stopped forced close on 174 but was forced to stop browser. Its is only two.issues affecting cm 2.3.7
Switched back to nightlies
also Netflix stopped working so went to a backup. No video just audio
miui is a cyan base rom
and the browser version works ok but the youtube app is giving loading issues
so y u just open youtube from browser?easy and same as youtube app
or u can uncheck option that force u to use mobile site
so u can open youtube as desktop site
much better really couse u have all feature of desktop site
full screen
like comments while watching
playlist etc
Yeah my YouTube app takes way to long to load. The browser works fine for me though
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using youtube from the browser isnt really something i really want to do but i just want to fix this problem since i like to use youtube occasionally
Yeah I really hate using a browser but I'm forced to because of YouTube app
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Try using the latest cm nightly.
it's the rom.... i also had the issue and i still do even with EB 2.3.5 and as well as the cm7 stabled Gb version.... not only with the youtube app but on some of the websites had flash issues where videos were just green lines. so i switched back to EB 2.3.3 stock Gb version. Devs are working as to finding out the problem but still no luck.
I tried the latest nightly 174 and loaded videos instantly this morning.
Will keep trying the Nightly ROMs. Will report back if I encounter the issue again.
Prefer the Youtube app, just faster.
Youtube and G2X usb mount
I am having these two issues first I noticed that phone is no more recognized by windows as usb and now this youtube issue of CM stable 7.1 , I was really liking this CM. If someone is there reading these and can help please help.
thanks
glad to know its not just me and more about the problem
i really hope this gets fixed soon but was it ever stated as an issue before so others could become more aware and hopefully put it in more demand for a fix or something?
Youtube Slow issue found
What I did I uninstalled both adobe flash player and youtube app and using dolphin web browser for youtube. I tried all those videos again through dolphin and got the instant response on my almost 2mega Byte connection. So, I guess I have to live without youtube app.
fidagill said:
What I did I uninstalled both adobe flash player and youtube app and using dolphin web browser for youtube. I tried all those videos again through dolphin and got the instant response on my almost 2mega Byte connection. So, I guess I have to live without youtube app.
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ya i just started to pretty much use the browser for youtube but i really like the youtube app smh please work again
Works fine for me now with nightly 174. No longer delays video play with YouTube app.
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rbryant1983 said:
Works fine for me now with nightly 174. No longer delays video play with YouTube app.
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Well I recently switched from LG Stock Rom to CM7.1 stable on my P990, and have the same issue. I'm glad that its not just me having slow loading of YouTube videos on the phone. Thanks for sharing the information that the nightly build of CM might help solve the issue. How many others have been successful with that build?
I can confirm that recent nightly builds are no longer causing slow loading of videos in YouTube app. I installed CM7.1 #204
I'm happy

YouTube app

What's up,
So I've had my Tablet Z for just about a month and the only real complaint I have is the YouTube app video quality is pretty bad! What little setting adjustments there are don't do anything to help. It looks like my player is playing lo-res 480p video on an HD screen even when HD is highlighted as the play option.
Netflix, Sony Video player and inline/embedded videos all look great so I know it's specific to the YouTube player.
Hoping that the update that's due out this week will alleviate the problem, part of the update addresses the YouTube app. I didn't know that manufacturer's had their own versions of the Google core apps, learn something new everyday.
Anybody else?
Thanks.
They don't have their own version of the apps. They can't. Youtube, like many other apps, is closed source. The fix includes something in the file system related to YT, but not the app itself. I guess the update is related to videos most of the times stop working in the middle of it for no reason. Embed with a browser, and other apps, work just fine.
Felimenta97 said:
They don't have their own version of the apps. They can't. Youtube, like many other apps, is closed source. The fix includes something in the file system related to YT, but not the app itself. I guess the update is related to videos most of the times stop working in the middle of it for no reason. Embed with a browser, and other apps, work just fine.
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Thanks for the info.
How's the pic quality of your YouTube app?
Madcypher said:
Thanks for the info.
How's the pic quality of your YouTube app?
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Check out the app called viral it solves the problem plus you can use it in floating mode or minimize it to play while screen is off when I started using viral it could go to 1080p which looks gorgeous on this device but for some reason I can only choose up to 720p but it's not tacky like it is on the official app
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Thanks for the info.
How's the pic quality of your YouTube app?
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I think it runs at least 720p on supported videos... I think there is a hack to force use 1080p, not sure...
So I uninstalled the most recent update and the video quality dramatically improves! I'll stay with 4.5.17 until they have another major updates.I'll miss some of the cooler navigation features of the new version, but is rather have the picture quality back.
I'm surprised I'm there's only one this affected.
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So I uninstalled the most recent update and the video quality dramatically improves! I'll stay with 4.5.17 until they have another major updates.I'll miss some of the cooler navigation features of the new version, but is rather have the picture quality back.
I'm surprised I'm there's only one this affected.
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You're not the only one.... Same issues here, as well as on my dad's XTZ and my Nexus 5.... Seems like the new version of the app doesn't upscale from 720p to 1080p very nicely at all.....

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