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All signs point to yes
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If so, I'm out.
I just read that in the us the phone will be unlocked
Where? The Z1s was not unlockable. There is no precedence that you can unlock it.
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Where? The Z1s was not unlockable. There is no precedence that you can unlock it.
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http://www.christiantoday.com/article/sony.xperia.z3.compact.release.date.asia.us.launch/40791.htm
It was saying sim unlocked for the Z3 Compact via Sony USA. Bootloader unlocked means loading new kernels by going to developer.sony.com.
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Yikes.
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Yikes.
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It will still be rootable, though.
We can still root it, though.
Why is that a problem
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Why is that a problem
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If you're a developer, an unlocked bootloader is good as you have more tools too use.
As a consumer, if Sony stops updating after a year you have the potential to install homebrew and extend the life of your hardware.
For me, personally, it isn't a big deal. Last phone I unlocked was the HTC One X. Mainly for bloatwear, backups, and updates (I believe I had to flash GTalk to get a video calling version, but that might have been the Xperia Play). But now I can adb backup and disable apps. Google App updates now happen through the Play store so I think the biggest need for consumer unlocking is almost nil. If you keep a phone 3 years+ you may want to unlock for custom ROMs.
It's not like Sony isn't providing the option, just get the OEM model instead of the carrier model.
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We can still root it, though.
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Says who? The Z1s took AGES to root. I mean like 6 months...
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If you're a developer, an unlocked bootloader is good as you have more tools too use.
As a consumer, if Sony stops updating after a year you have the potential to install homebrew and extend the life of your hardware.
For me, personally, it isn't a big deal. Last phone I unlocked was the HTC One X. Mainly for bloatwear, backups, and updates (I believe I had to flash GTalk to get a video calling version, but that might have been the Xperia Play). But now I can adb backup and disable apps. Google App updates now happen through the Play store so I think the biggest need for consumer unlocking is almost nil. If you keep a phone 3 years+ you may want to unlock for custom ROMs.
It's not like Sony isn't providing the option, just get the OEM model instead of the carrier model.
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GIven that it looks like Sony will also be selling an unlocked model, it's highly likely that THAT model will be more "developer oriented" and therefore bootloader-unlocked.
T-Mobile phones generally don't need or want 3rd party ROMs, because T-Mobile users like to hang onto WiFi calling. So it makes sense to lock that bootloader.
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GIven that it looks like Sony will also be selling an unlocked model, it's highly likely that THAT model will be more "developer oriented" and therefore bootloader-unlocked.
T-Mobile phones generally don't need or want 3rd party ROMs, because T-Mobile users like to hang onto WiFi calling. So it makes sense to lock that bootloader.
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In regards to the unlocked version, will ther ebe a 32 gb version? I have AT&T currently and I am not very interested in switching carriers to T-Mo (even if they provide Wi-Fi calling).
aooga said:
Says who? The Z1s took AGES to root. I mean like 6 months...
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Took ages for public release. Took very little fire someone to achieve it. One of the main reasons for delay was that the Z2 was around the corner and some security mobile event. The Z3 should be getting released within a relatively close time for each country.
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In regards to the unlocked version, will ther ebe a 32 gb version? I have AT&T currently and I am not very interested in switching carriers to T-Mo (even if they provide Wi-Fi calling).
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whitepaper says D6616(t-mobile specific version) up to 32GB, everyone else up to 16GB
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
Truthfully, doesn't matter to me anymore. My Z1s showed me an Android experience I didn't want to modify, if the Z3 is the same then I'm perfectly fine with a locked bootloader. I understand why a lot of people don't like it, but for me, Sony does Android right. The ONLY reason I rooted my Z1s after the 4.4.4 update was when I decided I wanted to screen mirror to my Chromecast (which requires root since it's not enabled on the Z1s by default), and this was at least a month after the 4.4.4 update. I dunno, I just don't want to tinker anymore, and the Z1s works very very well for that. And seeing as the battery life on the Z3 is nothing short of amazing, I'll probably get it regardless of bootloader status. Or maybe I'll get the Z3 compact...
I got an email yesterday to pre register for the Z3 on TMo, unfortunately I am on VZW so it doesnt help me at all. Just thought I would let u TMo users know that its on its way to being a reality. Check ur emails.
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I got an email yesterday to pre register for the Z3 on TMo, unfortunately I am on VZW so it doesnt help me at all. Just thought I would let u TMo users know that its on its way to being a reality. Check ur emails.
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Yeah, they said a few weeks still though. Mid october is my guess.
if i went to a Verizon store tomorrow and got a Pixel 2, and removed the sim and disabled WiFi, would i still be able to unlock the bootloader and root?
there is only a $35 restocking fee, but i'm only vaguely familiar with the unlock procedure for the Pixel 2, and haven't found any recent posts about it. obviously if i learn that it is possible, i will more heavily research the procedure. i'm just trying to avoid a $35 restocking fee if at all possible.
another thing i am wondering about as of writing this is, does updating a Verizon Pixel 2 relock the bootloader and kill root? would buying the phone from Google make it update safe?
thanks for all your help!
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if i went to a Verizon store tomorrow and got a Pixel 2, and removed the sim and disabled WiFi, would i still be able to unlock the bootloader and root?
there is only a $35 restocking fee, but i'm only vaguely familiar with the unlock procedure for the Pixel 2, and haven't found any recent posts about it. obviously if i learn that it is possible, i will more heavily research the procedure. i'm just trying to avoid a $35 restocking fee if at all possible.
another thing i am wondering about as of writing this is, does updating a Verizon Pixel 2 relock the bootloader and kill root? would buying the phone from Google make it update safe?
thanks for all your help!
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If Verizon figures out you've unlocked the bootloader, they can and/or will refuse to accept it. There are threads following the Verizon version, which should have the answers your looking for.
Why even bother with Verizon at all? You've answered your own questions.
Purchase from Google, root with no worries of a relocked bootloader ever happening, and you can rest easy.
Also, 35% of $1000, is $350.
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No way in hell I would pay 1k for this phone considering it's impossible to play FPS games due to mutitouch problems I'm not happy I paid even 150 for it!
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No way in hell I would pay 1k for this phone considering it's impossible to play FPS games due to mutitouch problems I'm not happy I paid even 150 for it!
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So what phone do you recommend?
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if i went to a Verizon store tomorrow and got a Pixel 2, and removed the sim and disabled WiFi, would i still be able to unlock the bootloader and root?
there is only a $35 restocking fee, but i'm only vaguely familiar with the unlock procedure for the Pixel 2, and haven't found any recent posts about it. obviously if i learn that it is possible, i will more heavily research the procedure. i'm just trying to avoid a $35 restocking fee if at all possible.
another thing i am wondering about as of writing this is, does updating a Verizon Pixel 2 relock the bootloader and kill root? would buying the phone from Google make it update safe?
thanks for all your help!
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I don't know if it is still able to be unlocked. Odds are that as long as it is not updated past the January update, then you can unlock the bootloader. Once unlocked though, there is very little chance any update would relock it for two reasons:
1. OTA Updates fail when you're unlocked
2. If it did relock, it would wipe your phone. Verizon wouldn't want that bad PR from wiping people's without consent.
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So what phone do you recommend?
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Samsung or LG
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Samsung or LG
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Are you selling your pixel 2?
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Bighoss00 said:
No way in hell I would pay 1k for this phone considering it's impossible to play FPS games due to mutitouch problems I'm not happy I paid even 150 for it!
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Can i ask whaf you mean? I have 0 issues with multi touch iv been playing **** outa pubg
Delta wolf said:
Can i ask whaf you mean? I have 0 issues with multi touch iv been playing **** outa pubg
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No unfortunately I can not sell my pixel2 as it's my work phone under contract
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/70344455
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No way in hell I would pay 1k for this phone considering it's impossible to play FPS games due to mutitouch problems I'm not happy I paid even 150 for it!
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It's a regular pixel 2, it doesn't cost anywhere near $1k and very few people have the multi touch bug. Even if you did, this phone has a 2 year warranty, so you're covered either way.
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if i went to a Verizon store tomorrow and got a Pixel 2, and removed the sim and disabled WiFi, would i still be able to unlock the bootloader and root?
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Probably it's already been updated to the March update, so no. And even though the January (and November) firmware is still at Google's site, it's probably locked against downgrading. (Anyone with a non-unlockable bootloader want to try?)
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I don't know if it is still able to be unlocked. Odds are that as long as it is not updated past the January update, then you can unlock the bootloader. Once unlocked though, there is very little chance any update would relock it for two reasons:
1. OTA Updates fail when you're unlocked
2. If it did relock, it would wipe your phone. Verizon wouldn't want that bad PR from wiping people's without consent.
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my friend at the verizon store was willing to check the software versions on the boxes, and found one that was before OPM2.171019.016. i'm not sure what, but it was OPM1.xxxxxx.xxx. some were already OPM3.xxxxxx.xxx.
it isn't true that an unlocked bootloader = a failed OTA update, as this was the issue i had with my Pixel 1. i got it early, unlocked with depixel8, and rooted. i then disabled OTA updates, and yet somehow, one made it through. it did not relock my bootloader, but it did leave me on a software version that was not rootable, even though my bootloader was unlocked. it is my main concern. but also, i want updates, i just want them to happen on my terms and not break my device.
any thoughts?
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my friend at the verizon store was willing to check the software versions on the boxes, and found one that was before OPM2.171019.016. i'm not sure what, but it was OPM1.xxxxxx.xxx. some were already OPM3.xxxxxx.xxx.
it isn't true that an unlocked bootloader = a failed OTA update, as this was the issue i had with my Pixel 1. i got it early, unlocked with depixel8, and rooted. i then disabled OTA updates, and yet somehow, one made it through. it did not relock my bootloader, but it did leave me on a software version that was not rootable, even though my bootloader was unlocked. it is my main concern. but also, i want updates, i just want them to happen on my terms and not break my device.
any thoughts?
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I would suggest searching through the forums for your answers which have been posted numerous times. You've opened a second thread to a discussion that has been addressed in its entirety here. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/how-to/unlock-bootloader-verizon-pixel-2-t3730076
Again the question of "How do I update my phone when it is rooted/BL unlocked" has been answered over and over. Probably good to try and keep the forum clean and searchable for everyone. That's the preferred method.
@MikeChannon Can you please lock this thread before it goes into the wild? Duplicate post
Such sad news, I literally got my device today!
The problem for me is that even though I could unlock my device now, the pull of users and developers to this device is going to plummet to zero on xda , there won't be any (or very few) ROM's, adopters will avoid the device... It's a horrible move from huawei who have a sponsor partnership with xda?? Xda have said they're going to fight it but my guess is huawei may look at their wallet rather than their hearts and stick to their guns.
By all accounts it's "to provide a better service". ???
I have a cooling off period for another 13 days.
If things don't change in a week I'm sending this wonderful opportunity phone back.
Never again
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
Edit: all that being said, I like this phone too much, even runs ppsspp and dolphin the same as the onelus 5 did, I've unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted and now it's running perfectly.
Going to give it a chance.
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Such sad news, I literally got my device today!
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I have a cooling off period for another 13 days.
Going to give it a chance.
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In the same boat mate, received the phone on Wednesday, got the bootloader unlock code sitting in my email index waiting to be used....and now I see this.
In two minds about the whole thing, on one hand love the phone it seems pretty damn great to me, only want to root for 2 issues (not fault of phone, just personal preference) but on the other hand, lack of ability to unlock bootloader will kill the community here. Do I keep it, unlock and just roll with it, or do I send it back and get something else (Galaxy Note or S9+ probably, community there aint dead lol)?
Have to have a good think about it over the weekend I think.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
In the same boat mate, received the phone on Wednesday, got the bootloader unlock code sitting in my email index waiting to be used....and now I see this.
In two minds about the whole thing, on one hand love the phone it seems pretty damn great to me, only want to root for 2 issues (not fault of phone, just personal preference) but on the other hand, lack of ability to unlock bootloader will kill the community here. Do I keep it, unlock and just roll with it, or do I send it back and get something else (Galaxy Note or S9+ probably, community there aint dead lol)?
Have to have a good think about it over the weekend I think.
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Avoid the galaxy unless you like baggage and more rules, if I was to buy another phone it would be the HTC 12, no doubt about it.
Personally I've used the unlock code twrp installed and I'm rooted.
Phones a beast, I personally think Huawei will decide against their decision, by all accounts HTC did the same and look what happened to them
Currently looking at debranding from the L09 to the L29 as updates are more timely. Either that or wait for some ROMs to drop.
I'm keeping it now, it's swayed me.
Although I'd I could get the HTC I'd do it in a heartbeat, epic development on XDA.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
In the same boat mate, received the phone on Wednesday, got the bootloader unlock code sitting in my email index waiting to be used....and now I see this.
In two minds about the whole thing, on one hand love the phone it seems pretty damn great to me, only want to root for 2 issues (not fault of phone, just personal preference) but on the other hand, lack of ability to unlock bootloader will kill the community here. Do I keep it, unlock and just roll with it, or do I send it back and get something else (Galaxy Note or S9+ probably, community there aint dead lol)?
Have to have a good think about it over the weekend I think.
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Since the phone is treble enabled we can use GSI. So theres no "real" need to have an active development community dedicated for this phone only.
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Avoid the galaxy unless you like baggage and more rules, if I was to buy another phone it would be the HTC 12, no doubt about it.
Personally I've used the unlock code twrp installed and I'm rooted.
Phones a beast, I personally think Huawei will decide against their decision, by all accounts HTC did the same and look what happened to them
Currently looking at debranding from the L09 to the L29 as updates are more timely. Either that or wait for some ROMs to drop.
I'm keeping it now, it's swayed me.
Although I'd I could get the HTC I'd do it in a heartbeat, epic development on XDA.
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You don't necessarily need to convert from L09 to L29 to get faster updates, you just need to change region from 782 to 432. The L09 & L29 firmwares are interchangeable and are released together but it's UK specific updates that are lagging behind.
Saying that, I don't think there's a way to convert to 432 without being converted to L29 in the process anyway lol
the unlock page is back, just used it... don't tgink will last for long... make sure to be logged with your huawei account
https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/index
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Personally I've used the unlock code twrp installed and I'm rooted.
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Which version of TWRP did you use? The official one or the non official one? Both have threads in these forums, but the official one seems to have more complaints and problems in its thread.
Thinking of getting unlock code... Does it end warranty? And how do I get product ID, that #*#*1357946*#*# thing did not work. Yes, did try right code, one i wrote here might not be remembered correctly?
Propulsion said:
Thinking of getting unlock code... Does it end warranty?
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When used yes.
Propulsion said:
And how do I get product ID, that #*#*1357946*#*# thing did not work. Yes, did try right code, one i wrote here might not be remembered correctly
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You just got the *'s and #'s the wrong way around, it should be:
*#*#1357946#*#*
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the unlock page is back, just used it... don't tgink will last for long... make sure to be logged with your huawei account
https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/index
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I logged in first time tbh on the first day I got the phone lucky I guess.
Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Which version of TWRP did you use? The official one or the non official one? Both have threads in these forums, but the official one seems to have more complaints and problems in its thread.
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The Italian one, starts with a p but they should all be ok.
danifilth4king said:
You don't necessarily need to convert from L09 to L29 to get faster updates, you just need to change region from 782 to 432. The L09 & L29 firmwares are interchangeable and are released together but it's UK specific updates that are lagging behind.
Saying that, I don't think there's a way to convert to 432 without being converted to L29 in the process anyway lol
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Nah me neither, think it's L29 or nothing.
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When used yes.
You just got the *'s and #'s the wrong way around, it should be:
*#*#1357946#*#*
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Like i said, when I tried to get product ID the code was certainly right. To that message i took it out of memory, and did not remember it right. Funny, i can get for example imei code with right "dialer code" but not that product code. How to proceed? Would like to get unlock code, to be on safe side if I some day (probably sooner than later) want to use it.
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Propulsion said:
Like i said, when I tried to get product ID the code was certainly right. To that message i took it out of memory, and did not remember it right. Funny, i can get for example imei code with right "dialer code" but not that product code. How to proceed? Would like to get unlock code, to be on safe side if I some day (probably sooner than later) want to use it.
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Got it to work, just needed to make phones original dialer default dialer... And, well, knowing me, I'm just moments away from unlocking bootloader and rooting
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Which version of TWRP did you use? The official one or the non official one? Both have threads in these forums, but the official one seems to have more complaints and problems in its thread.
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I used the one packaged with the all in one tool in one of these threads, its not the official one.
This thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...l-one-driversunlocktwrpfactory-t3779416/page9
dladz said:
Such sad news, I literally got my device today!
The problem for me is that even though I could unlock my device now, the pull of users and developers to this device is going to plummet to zero on xda , there won't be any (or very few) ROM's, adopters will avoid the device... It's a horrible move from huawei who have a sponsor partnership with xda?? Xda have said they're going to fight it but my guess is huawei may look at their wallet rather than their hearts and stick to their guns.
By all accounts it's "to provide a better service". ???
I have a cooling off period for another 13 days.
If things don't change in a week I'm sending this wonderful opportunity phone back.
Never again
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
Edit: all that being said, I like this phone too much, even runs ppsspp and dolphin the same as the onelus 5 did, I've unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted and now it's running perfectly.
Going to give it a chance.
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Keep hold of the bootloader unlock code you got as if they go ahead with removing the service, they're likely to release updates in the future that will relock unlocked bootloaders on install. You should be able to re-unlock with the same code but it's a pain as an update won't wipe data but then having to re-unlock will ?
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Keep hold of the bootloader unlock code you got as if they go ahead with removing the service, they're likely to release updates in the future that will relock unlocked bootloaders on install. You should be able to re-unlock with the same code but it's a pain as an update won't wipe data but then having to re-unlock will ?
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Yea I've got it pal, all good. Triple back up.
Is there any way to get the bootloader unlocked now, without unlock code of Huawei??
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Is there any way to get the bootloader unlocked now, without unlock code of Huawei??
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There's another site that does them.
Can't recall the name.
Just ordered the P20 Pro today after I upgraded my partners one yesterday to the P20. Its looks a fantastic phone so I had to go one better and get the pro. I got the unlock code for hers and will request mine tomorrow. Is there any need to use the unlock code? I don't plan on hoping for a better ROM as the stock one looks pretty reasonable to me.
wivelden said:
Just ordered the P20 Pro today after I upgraded my partners one yesterday to the P20. Its looks a fantastic phone so I had to go one better and get the pro. I got the unlock code for hers and will request mine tomorrow. Is there any need to use the unlock code? I don't plan on hoping for a better ROM as the stock one looks pretty reasonable to me.
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It is but rooting etc has its benefits, you've only got to go on a few threads here to see that.
Plus who knows what the future holds plus treble is always an option
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-honor-request-bootloader-unlock-code/
This will be the death of Huawei.
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https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-honor-request-bootloader-unlock-code/
This will be the death of Huawei.
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Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.
Huawei will continue to flourish.
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Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.
Huawei will continue to flourish.
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:good: Yep ok mate.
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Rooting never breathed life into any ailing phone manufacturer, and the tiny proportion of people who root phones will not kill anything.
Huawei will continue to flourish.
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yup. some people may not LIKE that you can't root a phone, but the actual percentage of those that won't actually buy the phone for this reason is minuscule.
otherwise, the first time a phone manufacturer sees their sales actually explode after releasing unlooked bootloaders, they'd always unlock it, but that's simply not the case
Ok I think you're being quite short sighted here, allow me to explain a little.
People who root their phones, usually the same ones who mod and develop ROMs and love a tinker, generally speaking the techie in the family, the one who your family tends to turn to when they have an upgrade come around or need something fixing.
Those very same people are more than likely to recommend a phone which has the ability to root, bootloader unlock and modify than they are one which has a completely locked down eco system.
You can say what you like, you can say I'm full of it, but I've seen how people react to a company changing its principles in regards to bootloader unlocking, HTC did this once, they then reversed their decision after seeing an immediate decline in sales, not solely due to the device either, it was the people's influence which caused it, then after two not so great phones later, they were a struggling company, and make no mistake, HTC was a colossal company which was on the up and up, bare in mind they made a lot of what android is today.
Huawei are making the exact same mistake because they overlooked how important that 1% is and the influence that they have over the vast majority of other users who value their opinion and will commit to a purchase on their say so.
It doesn't matter if you believe me, it's just an observation I've witnessed when HTC made the same decision.
Sure they'll continue, they make other components as well as phones, in all fairness they could stop selling phones and still survive.
But for XDA, for development, for what we know today of Huawei devices? Lol If you think it's quiet here on the p20 pro forum, wait til you see the ghost town of a thread there will be for the p30 and pro, I doubt there will be a single ROM, no Dev would be dumb enough to buy it.
**** I am receiving my phone in 5 days...
Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
Huawei is targeting the Apple clientele. They couldn‘t care less about bootloader unlocking. Look at their advertising, their USP is design, camera, beautiful visuals. They don‘t sell to the tech nerd who wants to flash different software.
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**** I am receiving my phone in 5 days...
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Damn.
You may still be able to do something , there was a guide on the above link posted by a user which can unlock the bootloader by all accounts.
This phone is quite a beast and there could and should be another way in the future.
Plus Huawei will probably reverse their decision, that's not confirmed by any means but I think they will.
Funky Huawei ( which is normally not what I'd recommend) will probably see a lot more action now that official unlocks are gone too.
Don't worry too much, if it's still possible someone will find out.
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Huawei is targeting the Apple clientele. They couldn‘t care less about bootloader unlocking. Look at their advertising, their USP is design, camera, beautiful visuals. They don‘t sell to the tech nerd who wants to flash different software.
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Please see the fifth post in this thread. That's all i have to say on that matter.
You're right in what you're saying, they however are wrong in what they're doing and they'll find that out the hard way.
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Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
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That's cool :good:
Good thinking
Rheumatoid said:
Picked up a code just in case anyone I sell it to is interested. Probably won't use it myself.
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It only works with your phone
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It only works with your phone
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Sell the phone to, not the code :laugh:
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Sell the phone to, not the code :laugh:
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Got it
I'm shocked. I received my phone today and wanted to root it and now I read this.
Maybe you guys can help me understand a few things because I haven't tampered with any Android device since 2014.
- will I be fine with the standard pre-installed EMUI or am I missing some really cool and better custom OS when I can't unlock and root my device?
- I've used Xposed, AFWall+, TWRP and XPrivacy on my old phone - are there similar and equally safe tools for unrooted devices?
- How can I make backups without TWRP?
- are there any known workaround procedures known that would let me unlock the bootloader without that code from Huawei? Is it likely that there will be one?
Thanks
yabbadabbadoo said:
I'm shocked. I received my phone today and wanted to root it and now I read this.
Maybe you guys can help me understand a few things because I haven't tampered with any Android device since 2014.
- will I be fine with the standard pre-installed EMUI or am I missing some really cool and better custom OS when I can't unlock and root my device?
- I've used Xposed, AFWall+, TWRP and XPrivacy on my old phone - are there similar and equally safe tools for unrooted devices?
- How can I make backups without TWRP?
- are there any known workaround procedures known that would let me unlock the bootloader without that code from Huawei? Is it likely that there will be one?
Thanks
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you can still get a code today
Rheumatoid said:
you can still get a code today
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How? The link https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail is down
can't find https://www.emui.com/en/unlock_index either
EDIT: Tried everything. There are too many websites which seems unprofessional and half of them show certificate errors. Finally I wrote them a complaint about this via Mail and provided all the data like IMEI etc
yabbadabbadoo said:
How? The link https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail is down
can't find https://www.emui.com/en/unlock_index either
EDIT: Tried everything. There are too many websites which seems unprofessional and half of them show certificate errors. Finally I wrote them a complaint about this via Mail and provided all the data like IMEI etc
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Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
jcrompton said:
Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
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I wouldn't now personally
jcrompton said:
Are there any other options for getting an unlock code at this point? I was thinking about purchasing a P20 Pro but may not if I can't unlock the bootloader.
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Same question here. I have my Twilight P20 Pro lying here, unused since release in fact (so way past the return window) and meant to give it to my wife, but only with Root Tools (Adaway, YT Vanced etc.)
I missed the window since I was traveling and support won't help me.
I get it, my fault for not doing it in time but what now? I wouldn't mind paying for it, as the only other option appears to be selling the device at a huge loss (I paid full retail) and finding a different phone altogether.
Hey everyone
I just heard about Huawei been a bit more relaxed about rooting their Mate 30 Pro.
At First I was like that is AWESOME, the idea of been able to use the Mate 30 Pro with pixel experience (my favourite custom Rom) sounds amazing.... best Pixel stock experience on a beast like Mate 30 would be epic.
Then I found a strange taste in my mouth. There would still be some draw backs. Thought I would list some concerns and people could answer some of those concerns.
(Note....each concern/question has a solution or comment I think about the issue.....this is just my view and not to be taken as the only view)
1. Lack of full potential from cameras on the back?
I know some custom ROM camera apps are pretty good l, but to really experience the best from the camera's you would have to have some access to l the Mate 30 Pro stock camera app package to allow.
A thought I had is that Huawei could make a APK that's a bit like Goodlock and this app would allow you to download the stock camera app and other stock apps that people may use on their Huawei devices.
2. LTE and 5G??
I can remember using my Samsung S7E with Pixel Experience but one of the draw backs was that I could get 4G but I didn't get the extra features like LTE, wifi calling, HD call quality ect. If this remained the case then this would be a major draw back to a 2019 flagship device.
Maybe Huawei could needed coding and solutions directly to custom Rom developers....or allow then to be a open source so every ROM devloper had access these features.
3. General Custom ROM glitches and bugs
We are all used to our ROMs having strange behaviours every now and ad gain but do we want these bugs on our £800+ smartphone that we use eveqersryday.
This solution seems obvious Huawei need to work closely with custom Rom developers and helping them Iron these issues out.
4. Some apps dont work on custom Roms no matter what.
Back to my S7e I was able to almost all of the apps on my phone thanks to magisk manager but some apps still had issues. My samsung gear app would pair with my gearfit 2 no matter what. It downloaded but it would not find any devices. I found a fix but that caused my Google to stop working, so had to put it back. This happened with other apps as well.
The only solution I can think of is app developers would have to made aware that mate 30 users could be using rooted devices with Huawei's blessing and ensure there apps work on rooted versions of the phone.
5. Is Warranty still safe.
If Huawei are actually cool with us rooting our P30 Pro then they need to put their money where their mouth is and allow this activity with their manufactures warranty, private insurance companies need to follow suit as well.
Huawei could give us manufactures warranty but with the condition that if possible we have to flash the stock firmware of the device before sending it out.
That's it....that's just s few of my thoughts and possible solutions and would love to hear what you guys think and if you have any worries or questions of your own? Maybe if we make enough noise Huawei will notice us and take our ideas and answer our questions themselves.
(Make it easier....put which number comment your answering to so we all have a better idea what's going on)
Keep it friendly guys remember these are mine and others thoughts.... none of us are implying that these thoughts are right.
By the way... I am a Note 9 user but I am really excited of the potential of Huawei been the ultimate custom ROM brand.
Official Pixel Experience is pretty much nill on Huawei Devices. I see the Honor 10 has
again been dropped.
When the Ban is lifted Huawei will lock the bootloader again no doubt.
they have changed their mind, they will not unlock the BL for the Mate 30.
the only place this device will sell well is China, they are screwed pretty much everywhere else.
I just bought one in shanghai yesterday. Its a very neat and fast phone. especially the 40w charging is cool. you can watch percentages go up...
I asked for the 5G version but i was told its not availbale and should come November. I was wondering though if its already built in and just needs a software patch... like back then when Nvidia was reducing performace on Graphic cards by disabling shaders by firmware...
Surrido said:
I just bought one in shanghai yesterday. Its a very neat and fast phone. especially the 40w charging is cool. you can watch percentages go up...
I asked for the 5G version but i was told its not availbale and should come November. I was wondering though if its already built in and just needs a software patch... like back then when Nvidia was reducing performace on Graphic cards by disabling shaders by firmware...
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Where you live? I just thinking to get one too but not sure china version it support USA TMobile LTE Network or not
paullu said:
Where you live? I just thinking to get one too but not sure china version it support USA TMobile LTE Network or not
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I live in Germany. Cant test US Networks until January, so someone else needs to do that
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Where you live? I just thinking to get one too but not sure china version it support USA TMobile LTE Network or not
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I would say most likely it works, as the China version covers pretty much all the network.
You could find out the specs from their website and check if the LTE bands covers T-Mobiles. It works on Bell's network though.
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Where you live? I just thinking to get one too but not sure china version it support USA TMobile LTE Network or not
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I am in TX, I got Mate 30 Pro from China, and it works with T-mobile showing "4G" icon. The speed test result is like to my old iPhone 6.
By the way, I have 2 sim card, one is China Union (works on AT&T's network) which support VoLTE, the other is T-Mobile which does not.
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I am in TX, I got Mate 30 Pro from China, and it works with T-mobile showing "4G" icon. The speed test result is like to my old iPhone 6.
By the way, I have 2 sim card, one is China Union (works on AT&T's network) which support VoLTE, the other is T-Mobile which does not.
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Thanks for the reply. Also dou you install Google apps? If so can you confirm Google pay , YouTube ,Goole map are working?
paullu said:
Thanks for the reply. Also dou you install Google apps? If so can you confirm Google pay , YouTube ,Goole map are working?
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Play store, Google pay, gmail, map, YouTube, chrome, Android Auto can be installed and have no problem to log in to use. i have been play with my phone for a week, so far the noticable issues are Google pay that does not allow me to pay, and some of app like netflix, United airline, gasbuddy cannot install..
Does Google photos back up and work as normal?
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Does Google photos back up and work as normal?
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Google photos Works fine for me (backup sync and share)
o012 said:
Google photos Works fine for me (backup sync and share)
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Thank you I think I'm convinced
I was trying to find a thread about the bootloader being unlocked on this phone and couldn't find one. I came across this video on YouTube where this guy turns on his phone and says his phone unlocked. He doesn't say how he did it but I'm thinking someone might want to contact him and ask him how he did it. About 2 minutes in he shows this
https://youtu.be/6a8BkESzAXs
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I was trying to find a thread about the bootloader being unlocked on this phone and couldn't find one. I came across this video on YouTube where this guy turns on his phone and says his phone unlocked. He doesn't say how he did it but I'm thinking someone might want to contact him and ask him how he did it. About 2 minutes in he shows this
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Most likely a review unit like others have had, release software dosnt have OEM unlock option in developers, if something comes of the int. Version we may be able to get rebranding but has yet to be seen
He commented about it being a devkit under the comment by Markus Haier here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5pxYxPSbl_s and said he was going to make a video on it but still nothing.
@o012 Well my P30-Pro (VOG-L09) has OEM unlocking under developer options but haven't tried unlocking.
All works in canada except certain banking apps google backup netflix google pay androis assistant needs to be rebooted everytime. Rest all works fine including google photo backup
Has anyone installed a custom ROM and TWRP to it yet.
Could a Gapps package help the issues? Gapps include all the google services and system setting to keep google stable and updating.
Think Gapps could be installed via the phones built in bootloader??.