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is an app required? i have 2 xvid files on my sdcard and neither mvideoplayer or video player see them
use encodehd and convert them to mp4.
Relax Preppy said:
is an app required? i have 2 xvid files on my sdcard and neither mvideoplayer or video player see them
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Try "yxflash" from the market. It claims to be able to play WMV, DivX & Xvid... Haven't tried it myself though.
It's a $19.99 app that has to be purchased outside the market though... I don't like the way they're trying to conduct business.
Try meridian from the market. Haven't tested xvid yet but seems to play things otherwise built in on my mytouch couldn't haven't gotten that far.
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It's a $19.99 app that has to be purchased outside the market though... I don't like the way they're trying to conduct business.
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Yea. They're kinda shady since they call it free then charge you to use it.
I'm guessing, if it does actually work, he doesn't want some rooted dirtbag downloading and refunding to add to the plethora of pirated apps. I haven't seen the app yet, but I figure if allows google checkout, it should be as safe as any other purchase via google checkout.
isn't there a samsung android phone with divx support builtin? I'm pretty sure I read that some where. Wonder if someone is working on some sort of port...
there are two android phones which play divx/xvid out of the box. one from samsung and the other from lg. getting the drivers/media player ported from either of these phones would be a big plus from me. i know i could convert media before hand, however i use my memory card as a "memory stick" which i bring in to work to watch on the PC during lunch. being able to play the same files on the phone when i'm on the bus/train would be so much easier.
try doubletwist if you're on Windows/Mac... no linux version yet
it will convert them to play on android by just dragging them over to the device...
I can confirm that yxflash works on my G1. I just download a divx movie (about 700 mb) and play it. Unfortunately the frame rate is about 15 f/s. Hope on Nexus One it will be much better.
InsightGoalie said:
It's a $19.99 app that has to be purchased outside the market though... I don't like the way they're trying to conduct business.
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btw, they still have xmas, you can get 50% off while using coupon code "xmas".
Still too expensive for my opinion, but hey, they come from the apple universum where all have too much money.
Now this post isnt going to be of much use because i couldnt find all the links i was after..... however
There were people requesting the samsung xvid/divx player be ported out back on the G1. Seems that one of XDA's members lbcoder has some decent incite on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566591&highlight=divx
He posted
divx is just an implementation of iso mpeg4.
So...
to make it play you need to;
1) ensure that bitrate and resolution are low enough to be properly handled,
2) package it in a compatible container (mp4 works)
3) ensure that the AUDIO is encoded in a compatible manner (vorbis is great, but others also work, mp3, aac, etc.)
4) ensure that there is no crap in the file showing that it is divx because it simply doesn't know what divx *IS* -- make it read as mpeg4 -- this does NOT require reencoding the file, just using a SANE header.
brotbuexe said:
btw, they still have xmas, you can get 50% off while using coupon code "xmas".
Still too expensive for my opinion, but hey, they come from the apple universum where all have too much money.
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I thought $10 wasn't bad. It plays awesome on the N1. It takes me 10 minuted to download a Divx movie, but 30 mins to convert. Over the course of several months, I would save a ton of time converting movies. I can download directly to the SD card via browser and play with yxflash.
Yes, having to purchase outside the market is shady, but I have contacted them several times with issues and they resolved them within one day.
Found the app via market at first glance i thought nah **** it because of the bad rating.. at second glance i actually took the time to read the comments, turns out most of the comments where bad/laggy playback, witch was partly due to Magic / Heros hardware, and the resizing requirements..
ive installed the trial, and it plays beautifully.. although sometimes i do get some lines across the screen, but they are hard to notice...
Price is still a bit high thou! :/ im gonna give it a month or two to see if a cheaper alternative shows up, and hopefully by that time Google will have opened up the market in Denmark.
used yxflash to play an hd copy of ice age 3 in xvid, ran nearly perfect, every so often there is some frame skip
Well i always wanted to have netflix on my phone but is it possible???
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i don't get this whole wanting to get netflix thing. i mean all they offer is movies that have been released to dvd's. i have already seen movies such as sanctum,the mechanic,the next 3 days, etc.. all on my evo. so what am i missing. can someone please explain??
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i don't get this whole wanting to get netflix thing. i mean all they offer is movies that have been released to dvd's. i have already seen movies such as sanctum,the mechanic,the next 3 days, etc.. all on my evo. so what am i missing. can someone please explain??
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have you ever used netflix?
lots of TV shows, feature films, documentaries. Sometimes you're on the road and want to watch something (I don't have a laptop).
As to the OP, the only solution right now I believe is to use a streamer like playon found here: http://www.playon.tv/
you get a trial, just download the server, put in your credentials for netflix or any other service you use then download the player from the android market, have it connected via wifi to the PC running the server, find it, pair it then you're golden. You only need to have it on the same network the first time you connect to the server. Used this a few weeks ago in a completely different state on my wife's atrix and it worked wonderfully!
Future phones will likely have improved DRM capability but existing phones (like my captivate) will probably never get a true netflix app.
Playon is awesome though, I stream to my phone and my HTCP running XBMC (which also cannot get netflix normally!)
Lots of other stuff on there too like NHL gamecenter, Hulu, and various other digital media sources (including files on the PC running the server)
What I'm looking to do with my SGS3 is WIRELESSLY mirror the audio, and video of my phone to a HTPC/Mac. Apple via "Airplay"allows for this in iOS and it works BEAUTIFULLY using a client on the pc/mac like AirServer, or Reflection. I find it difficult to believe that this is not available on an Android platform. The problem is, searching for such an app almost always results in finding remote desktop apps n such. Watch a video using Airserver or Reflection, and you'll see what I'm looking to do. I've seen media player apps that'll send videos/audio, but not by mirroring the actual Android device. I know I've gotta be missing this somewhere.
There's an app called MirrorOp Sender that sends the video to a connected receiver/client, but it's VERY slow, and does not support the transmission of audio. MirrorOP Sender also requires the device to be rooted. Not like that's a huge deal to me, but perhaps to someone else.
Thanks in advance!
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Xda tv did a review of an app that does this. Look on their youtube channel. To late for me to find it. I'm sleepy.
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Xda tv did a review of an app that does this. Look on their youtube channel. To late for me to find it. I'm sleepy.
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Thanks Here's the video I think you might have been talking about. I was unawar that TeamViewer allowed for the control of a phone FROM a pc. I thought it was only to control a PC FROM a phone. Thanks! But it should be known, though this is a seriously cool option. Audio still does not transfer over the wifi, only two-way video communications.
And so the hunt continues for something like AirServer and Reflection on Android. Don't necessarily nee to control it from a pc/mac, but would really like a wireless audio/video presentation platform for Android.
Bringing this post back to life in hope someone has a new idea. Can someone please explain to me why the ability to mirror audio and video from Android to a PC/Mac isn't available yet? Thanks
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Bringing this post back to life in hope someone has a new idea. Can someone please explain to me why the ability to mirror audio and video from Android to a PC/Mac isn't available yet? Thanks
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I am looking for the same, Although the other way. I think there are bunch of apps to mirror your Display but audio is not possible due to some limitations in Android framework.
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I am looking for the same, Although the other way. I think there are bunch of apps to mirror your Display but audio is not possible due to some limitations in Android framework.
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I too was looking for an app like this and honestly sat there and started to wonder why i actually needed it.. can you explain a senario where this make sense and why an app that beams audio/videois not a good enough solution. hell i am with you on having more options including a featuer like airplay mirror, but maybe untill such application exists i can suggest good enough work arounds because like you i spent MANY MANY hours trying to figure out how do do this mirror thing with no dice. but i did find nice workarounds..
Holy hell, finally I think we might have a solution. I haven't tried it yet, but clearly, we aren't the only ones in need of this feature.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/29/new-app-bbqscreen-mirrors-your-display-on-a-computer-at-25fps-root-only/
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Holy hell, finally I think we might have a solution. I haven't tried it yet, but clearly, we aren't the only ones in need of this feature.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/29/new-app-bbqscreen-mirrors-your-display-on-a-computer-at-25fps-root-only/
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Looks promising. SplashTop 2 works other way round but is too damn pricey.
Just reviving this thread because I am also looking for the same thing. That app posted in the last post, BQScreen, as far as I know doesn't differ from the one the OP stated. Both apps don't transmit any audio, they just mirror the screen. MirrorOp is kinda cool because you can control it both ways, you can also use your mouse to click buttons on your computer to control your phone. Keyboard also works so you can reply to all your whatsapp msgs from your computer but at the end of the day it doesnt transmit any audio.
I use a galaxy note 2 and have never had the need to do this before because both the tvs in my house that get the most use happen to have a computer in the same room and I have them set up to just send the computer's screen to the tv screen and use unified remote/xbmc remote to do whatever I want, thus ending the need for allshare cast/apple tv devices which in my opinion offer an inferior experience than a full fledged HTPC.
The problem is that I have a tv in a room in my house that is getting more and more use lately and it doesn't have any way of showing netflix or youtube or all the files I have in my media server, etc. Basicaly, no access to the internet and I bought the tv right before all the smartv craze started. I am now on the search of a way to mirror my phone's screen (or anyones) to that tv in order to give that tv some added value. Of course I would still need to have some kind of reciever in that tv to get it to work so I really don't know what I am searching for. In the end I will probably end up purchasing an allcast dongle and use it specificaly for that tv, that way all tv's in my house would have access to all the media in my house and the internet but if anyone here has another option, I am all ears.
I have google tv and youtube connects nicely, i'm not sure if that's what your looking for though. I just connect and it plays the video on my tv.
Reviving this i case the 4.3 framework has changed to allow this functionality. If someone with knowledge of such things can chime in that would be great!
Bumping this topic, years have gone by and still no solution?
mirror from koush is the closest thing ...
it's meant for airplay so you can just install airserver on your pc
Chromecast
Google Chromevast
Looking for the solution. AirServer works on Windows and promises Google Cast support but it looks like it only casts audio from Chrome desktop tab. Google Play Music app discovers the chromecast device but music doesn't start
So what does everyone see for the future of the Nexus Player? I'm hoping custom ROMS I'm not really liking how it wants to show everything Google first. Would be cool if it could see okay this guy has Netflix and Plex let's give him recommendations on those and also I'm not a fan with how it is laid out. Maybe I'm just to adjusted to how the Roku works.
I am hoping (but not holding my breath on the first one) for amazon video, hbo go, and a few others support. That or maybe google should adapt a subscription service like prime instead of paying to buy or rent everything. I would also like to see more support for it on here as well.
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I am hoping (but not holding my breath on the first one) for amazon video, hbo go, and a few others support. That or maybe google should adapt a subscription service like prime instead of paying to buy or rent everything. I would also like to see more support for it on here as well.
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i havn't tried it yet, but you can probably install hbo go thru play.google.com or by sideloading it. same is prob true for amazon video app
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i havn't tried it yet, but you can probably install hbo go thru play.google.com or by sideloading it. same is prob true for amazon video app
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I tried side loading amazon...it was a no go. HBO won't install from the play.google.com onto it but I have not yet tried it side loaded though. Which for me it wouldn't matter until HBO does their new subscription thing next year, it was more of a hey these things would make it more useful and competitive with other tv boxes out right now.
To clairfy amazon would install just fine however it would force close when trying to play a video right after it warns you about the device not using davilk (probably misspelled but that cache we all used to have to clear before installing new roms and such)
You can cast HBO Go w/ your mobile device. Not the same as a full blown app, but it works just like chromecast.
I got Amazon Instant Video and Amazon Prime Music to work.
First you will need to have sideloaded chrome and es file explorer.
Also, you will need to have a usb otg cable and a wireless keyboard and mouse.
Once you have those things you can navigate to apkmirror.com and download the amazon apk's.
I used es file explorer's downloader to download them.
Once installed, you can open them by using Chainfire's sideload launcher or from settings.
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I got Amazon Instant Video and Amazon Prime Music to work.
First you will need to have sideloaded chrome and es file explorer.
Also, you will need to have a usb otg cable and a wireless keyboard and mouse.
Once you have those things you can navigate to apkmirror.com and download the amazon apk's.
I used es file explorer's downloader to download them.
Once installed, you can open them by using Chainfire's sideload launcher or from settings.
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I had them installed but for me the video one would crash as soon as I would try to play a video. Are the ones on apkmirror.com different than the ones on the amazon appstore?
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I had them installed but for me the video one would crash as soon as I would try to play a video. Are the ones on apkmirror.com different than the ones on the amazon appstore?
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Nevermind, I just tryed played a video and had the same problem.
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So what does everyone see for the future of the Nexus Player? I'm hoping custom ROMS I'm not really liking how it wants to show everything Google first.
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The relative lack of posts here on XDA tells me that Nexus Player is not (yet) popular among "Android enthusiasts".
I think enthusiasm will grow, but many people may wait for a 2nd or 3rd generation device. Currently, there are complaints that it doesn't have an ethernet port, among other shortcomings at present.
I don't know if interest will pick up from "regular people". If Google had a good ad/commercial (on "normal" TV of course, LOL), sales could be good.
At present, custom ROM etc. development is slow/stalled. What other Nexus device came out that hasn't been properly rooted yet ? I hope and assume Chainfire will get us going better soon.
So far we can unlock bootloader and get a root adb shell. I'm not sure if the default popups for SuperSU work OK on TV yet. And x86 and 64 bit support ?
So,... I'm not sure that current NP will have much commercial success. But IMO there is very good potential for the future.
I am personally interested in "testing the waters" of app development on this Player. I have no interest at this time in any non-Android devices, simply because I have "hitched my wagon" in the 100% Android development camp.
It will be popular imo. Just not enough out there...
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It will be popular imo. Just not enough out there...
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I think the platform will be a little more wide spread once it starts getting used in other boxes and tvs. Right now these and the adt-1 (which only a hand full of people have) and hopefully once these other devices get out there it will make more developers get interested in it.
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So what does everyone see for the future of the Nexus Player?
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So what does everyone see for the future of the Nexus Player? I'm hoping custom ROMS I'm not really liking how it wants to show everything Google first. Would be cool if it could see okay this guy has Netflix and Plex let's give him recommendations on those and also I'm not a fan with how it is laid out. Maybe I'm just to adjusted to how the Roku works.
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It will go in the dust bin... I have already gone back to my Roku 3 due to issues that I am having with NP and also Plex. This will also be the last "nexus" product that I buy. The things that Google pushes out seem to be in perpetual beta and I can't have that any more.
When You Don't Know What You Doing You Suppose To Get Turd Results
When You Don't Know What You Doing You Suppose To Get Turd Results For Real
Evidently, either you don't know what are doing or you don't know how to set the Nexus TV Player for best results!
Come on now, game knows game, I get top quality from ALL my Android TV boxes ... Know why, because I know how
to set up a Android TV box for best results ... First of all, ALL my connections and switches are GB Speeds, game knows game!
Enjoy your Roku box dude, it's made for you, plug-N-play with a million apps nobody wants!
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When You Don't Know What You Doing You Suppose To Get Turd Results For Real
Evidently, either you don't know what are doing or you don't know how to set the Nexus TV Player for best results!
Come on now, game knows game, I get top quality from ALL my Android TV boxes ... Know why, because I know how
to set up a Android TV box for best results ... First of all, ALL my connections and switches are GB Speeds, game knows game!
Enjoy your Roku box dude, it's made for you, plug-N-play with a million apps nobody wants!
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You seem a bit mad. Does the truth hurt? Roku is doing something right. They have sold 10 million units. Nexus player? No idea, but I can guess it's nowhere near that. You also have articles coming out like this for the NP: Google’s Nexus Player: More prototype than finished product
Nexus player can't even connect to 5.0ghz wireless (RT-N66U). ALL other devices on my network (including this PC) work fine on 5.0Ghz. I assume you don't use Plex at all on NP as the video pauses every 20 minutes or so. I even saw someone on the Plex forum that was using MediaBrowser 3 (on NP) having the same issue. It makes me think that this is not an issue with Plex and MediaBrowser, but something with the NP itself otherwise why would two different apps have the same issue on the same platform?
I don't know about you, but I want a device that simply works. NP has a very nice UI, but not everything is working nicely. This has nothing to do with not knowing what I am doing. NP is meant to be a plug and play device not something you need to tinker with in order for it to work. Other issues I have with NP are: Wi-Fi disconnects for no apparent reason, voice search is hit or miss, recommendations are a mess (maybe this is app related I am not sure), and casting sometimes stops working for no apparent reason.
The point you are trying to make about Gb speeds. Doesn't really make sense. Are you implying that NP works better if I go spend more money to get the OTG cable and a LAN port? NO THANKS! If you need a LAN port to make the device work properly it should have been included with the device.
I will be the first to admit that Roku has a pretty crappy UI, but it WORKS! I don't care how many apps Roku has. My main ones I use are Netflix, Plex, and Youtube. I sometimes load up MediaBrowser 3 to see how they are progressing with the product, but that's about it.
The last thing that doesn't seem to look good in regards to the NP is the lack of new apps coming out. There was even a recent post in this forum somewhere about it. Will developers get on board? Developer support will make/break the product. Right now the NP and ATV in general is lacking in that department. Google will need to get off of their collective asses and fix the bugs in their product and push this platform hard or it will fall flat on it's face (much like Google TV did).
Enjoy!
{lol} Enjoy your Roku made for you plug-N-play!
The next Android TV box you should be getting http://armdevices.net/2015/02/04/ge...op-android-tv-on-amlogic-and-shares-strategy/ ! Monster specs!
EcPercy is right. I own several rooted Chromecasts, a roku 3, a roku 1, and a nexus player. This is by far the least user friendly of all of them, when used normally (not casting to np). I'm still waiting on Amazon instant video. It works on my phone, why not on this? Seriously, Amazon, get on it. I don't want to end up with a paperweight, but Pluto TV and YouTube don't work right either. Buffering every 20 seconds is hardly worth my time and energy. I'm an RD here and know my way around android. I know well what I'm doing, and this device as it sits is simply not a good investment. You shouldn't have to fix something right out of the box to have it simply function as intended. I'm hoping the bugs get ironed out soon, both with Google and the individual app devs. A lot of it has to do with adding in support for lower bitrates.
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You seem a bit mad. Does the truth hurt? Roku is doing something right. They have sold 10 million units. Nexus player? No idea, but I can guess it's nowhere near that. You also have articles coming out like this for the NP: Google’s Nexus Player: More prototype than finished product
Nexus player can't even connect to 5.0ghz wireless (RT-N66U). ALL other devices on my network (including this PC) work fine on 5.0Ghz. I assume you don't use Plex at all on NP as the video pauses every 20 minutes or so. I even saw someone on the Plex forum that was using MediaBrowser 3 (on NP) having the same issue. It makes me think that this is not an issue with Plex and MediaBrowser, but something with the NP itself otherwise why would two different apps have the same issue on the same platform?
I don't know about you, but I want a device that simply works. NP has a very nice UI, but not everything is working nicely. This has nothing to do with not knowing what I am doing. NP is meant to be a plug and play device not something you need to tinker with in order for it to work. Other issues I have with NP are: Wi-Fi disconnects for no apparent reason, voice search is hit or miss, recommendations are a mess (maybe this is app related I am not sure), and casting sometimes stops working for no apparent reason.
The point you are trying to make about Gb speeds. Doesn't really make sense. Are you implying that NP works better if I go spend more money to get the OTG cable and a LAN port? NO THANKS! If you need a LAN port to make the device work properly it should have been included with the device.
I will be the first to admit that Roku has a pretty crappy UI, but it WORKS! I don't care how many apps Roku has. My main ones I use are Netflix, Plex, and Youtube. I sometimes load up MediaBrowser 3 to see how they are progressing with the product, but that's about it.
The last thing that doesn't seem to look good in regards to the NP is the lack of new apps coming out. There was even a recent post in this forum somewhere about it. Will developers get on board? Developer support will make/break the product. Right now the NP and ATV in general is lacking in that department. Google will need to get off of their collective asses and fix the bugs in their product and push this platform hard or it will fall flat on it's face (much like Google TV did).
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Agreed. I've got about 3 weeks to toy with it before off back to Amazon it goes. I kind of figured the return shipping would be worth a shot to see if it had any potential but as it sits, I don't know.
I absolutely LOVE the Plex interface with lollipop for TV's its easily the nicest of any Plex app including the Plexbmc with Amber, which doesn't work with the puck either I might add. Google has been disappointing me to no end lately, the N9's quality issues, the N6's availability issues, now this. Grrrr.
I just can't fathom how the Android TV "team" can release a device that can't play video nearly as well as their own $25 Chromecast dongle! I have two of those and they play everything I throw at them without a hitch.
What's telling as well is that the Fire stick has issues with Plex playing 1080 content too. I wonder if the new Razer box will be any better?
AndroidTVTech1 said:
When You Don't Know What You Doing You Suppose To Get Turd Results For Real
Evidently, either you don't know what are doing or you don't know how to set the Nexus TV Player for best results!
Come on now, game knows game, I get top quality from ALL my Android TV boxes ... Know why, because I know how
to set up a Android TV box for best results ... First of all, ALL my connections and switches are GB Speeds, game knows game!
Enjoy your Roku box dude, it's made for you, plug-N-play with a million apps nobody wants![/QUOTE
I respect your knowledge of Android,many people do not have your abilities . But if Google was to depend on the average customer to have your abilities I'm afraid it would be short lived? Most people expect a product to function out of the box, if you wish to modify thats your choice. It should not be a requirement? Please remember that some monitor this forum to learn from developers such as yourself. A little patience and respect goes a long way :good:
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The only thing nice about the nexus player is the UI and it's potential. KODI is nice. I am hoping for a remote-friendly popcorn time to satisfy me, but development for NP is so weak. If it had hbo go, and showtime anytime, those are basic apps it should have just to be on the same level as it's competitors. But since it has come out, how many new apps have you seen show up in the play store? 2? 3? I always go to the device play store in hopes they finally get their shhit together. Android always has a habit of releasing something new and amazing and then neglecting it.
So the unit is a power house no doubt. But I have found it to be very lacking and frustrating when it comes to available streaming media apps.
First it had to update to get Netflix. Then in order to get Crunchyroll I had to side load it from my PC. The option to sideload things like Amazon Instant Video, HBO GO, Disney XD (me and the kids got to get our Rebels) either aren't there or this device is listed as incompatable even after I have set it to allow "Unknown Sources". I did find an apk for AIV here on XDA but haven't installed it yet. Also, when you do get apps installed via apk they don't show on the main screen and there is no option to add it. You have to go through 3 or 4 screens to find it. Does any one have any advice for getting these streaming services on this box and making it less frustrating to use? Thanks
The store only shows apps that are leanback apps but if you go to the store on a browser you can install most apps to your shield from there and use a sideload launcher to launch them on the shield. Not every app works with a controller but i've had good luck for the most part.
I did try doing it via a browser, Chrome even, and they still do not install. I also have the remote for it and that works.
No worries. I've decided to return it anyway. Will just wait for Roku 4 or maybe the next version of Nexus TV.
Thanks
Im a little disappointed too but what else do you expect from google smdh
I'm not dissapointed at all. This is probably the new benchmark that all future android devices will be measured against. I accept that the play store is limited because it has only been out for about 6 weeks and this device is a little more work right now. But it will get better, I'm sure.
Go ahead and get that next generation roku, and i hope you can enjoy that locked-down experience. I know I wouldnt like it.
It's new, apps and streaming services will be added as time goes on. Roku is the king of streaming channels, but no Kodi, essentially no games, locked down, and it's future doesn't look very bright unless they jump on the Android bandwagon.
Amazon FireTV is a better option, a bit more locked down than nSATV/AndroidTV, but as it's been out longer than Android TV it does support more streaming apps as well as a fairly decent selection of casual games. I'd say it's probably the best option today if nothing else was ever released for any device ever.
nVidia Shield Android TV has the best hardware of any microconsole streaming device, and IMHO AndroidTV holds the most promise of the OS options. It's new but off to a good start. I can understand being disappointed, but maybe expectations area bit unrealistic. Patience, give it some time. The exception of course is games. There really are no other options for using a streaming media microconsole to replace a dedicated gaming console, and for some people this device can do just that.